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[20:12]<Quantos> I just got the servers, they're Dell PowerEdge R210
[20:12]<Quantos> I think that's the model number
[20:13]<@BC_Programming> Which servers are these then
[20:13]<Quantos> A friend gave them to me
[20:13]<Quantos> No purpose for them yet
[20:13]<@BC_Programming> use your new mechanical keyboard on them!
[20:14]<Quantos> They were doing some upgrades on their hardware where he works
[20:14]<Quantos> Yeah
[20:14]<Quantos> They have USB's
[20:14]<@BC_Programming> What is the keyboard story btw, you just mentioned you wish you tried them earlier or somesuch
[20:14]<Quantos> Yeah, I got a Razer Blackwidow Ultimate for half price, it was factory refurb'd
[20:15]<Quantos> When I registered it Razer gave me a two year warranty on it
[20:15]<Quantos> I love it
[20:15]<Quantos> Great keyboard
[20:15]<@BC_Programming> I am using a Corsair K70
[20:15]<Quantos> Oh nice
[20:16]<@BC_Programming> I gave unicomp two tries
[20:16]<Quantos> They're the ones making the clicky right?
[20:16]<@BC_Programming> Yeah they make the model M's but I found them very unreliable
[20:16]<Quantos> Oh
[20:16]<Quantos> That's not the first time I've heard that
[20:16]<@BC_Programming> first one failed outright and stopped being detected properly and when it was only certain keys worked
[20:17]<Quantos> Nice
[20:17]<@BC_Programming> second one started to get some problems and I decided F it not giving them a third chance
[20:17]<Quantos> Yeah, no kidding
[20:17]<@BC_Programming> K70 has lasted longer than both of them at this point I think
[20:17]<Quantos> It should last a long time yet too
[20:17]<@BC_Programming> Tried to self-service the Unicomps too
[20:17]<Quantos> Corsair is pretty decent
[20:18]<@BC_Programming> They use flat screws so required a socket
[20:18]<@BC_Programming> and the internals are held together with melted plastic!
[20:18]<Quantos> Nice
[20:18]<Quantos> That's quality workmanship for you
[20:18]<Quantos> Some guy was specially trained for that
[20:18]<Quantos> That's the scary bit
[20:18]<@BC_Programming> To be fair supposedly IBM's keyboards were built the same way, which seems dumb
[20:19]<Quantos> I can't see that
[20:19]<@BC_Programming> the flat screws annoy me most, like they intentionally don't want people opening it up
[20:19]<Quantos> I think IBM would've been a bit more careful than that
[20:20]<Quantos> IBM's keyboards were useful in a fight and then you could still type on them
[20:20]<@BC_Programming> Of course I have a bunch of "emergency" keyboards too, cheapo USBs
[20:21]<Quantos> Yeah, I have a few of those too
[20:21]<@BC_Programming> Logitech K120's were on sale for like 3 bucks so I got I think 3 of them on Amazon
[20:21]<@BC_Programming> They got shipped separately in huge boxes which was hilarious
[20:21]<Quantos> Wow, that's a decent deal
[20:21]<Quantos> I picked up a USB BT dongle today too
[20:21]<Quantos> It's in a huge box
[20:21]<Quantos> Almost as big as the box for the KVM
[20:23]<@BC_Programming> 128GB Micro SDs were actually on sale for real last week too... 29.99 sounded pretty good to me at least
[20:24]<Quantos> Yeah, I saw some sandisks at a really good price
[20:24]<@BC_Programming> Yeah These are SanDisk
[20:24]<Quantos> Nice
[20:24]<@BC_Programming> Got three of those because from what I could tell regular price was 79.99 and I'm sure I'll need more eventually
[20:24]<Quantos> Yeap
[20:25]<Quantos> Storage is one thing you can never have too much of
[20:25]<@BC_Programming> Seems they always come with those adapters which is slightly annoying
[20:25]<Quantos> Yeah
[20:25]<@BC_Programming> I suppose it's because most SD Card slots on PCs don't allow for Micro SD
[20:26]<Quantos> That makes sense
[20:26]<Quantos> But I'm not taking it out of my phone to connect to the computer
[20:26]<Quantos> I'm using USB or KDECOnnect
[20:27]<@BC_Programming> My phone doesn't even have an SD slot at all
[20:27]<Quantos> I can go for a shower while data copies
[20:27]<@BC_Programming> So main thing I can use them for I guess would be my Raspberry Pi
[20:27]<Quantos> I think mine is on the same tray that the sim card slips into
[20:27]<Quantos> Mmmm, Pie
[20:28]<Quantos> I think I'm making a trip to the bakery
[20:29]<@BC_Programming> I do have an older LG Optimus One Phone that somebody gave me for free with an eBay purchase
[20:29]<Quantos> LOL
[20:29]<@BC_Programming> That and a remote for some random Canon projector, yeah thx for that one buddy
[20:30]<Quantos> Well, I think I'm going to connect these servers and see what I've got
[20:30]<Quantos> I'll be in and out for a while in all likelyhood
[20:47]<Quantos> Hey, any idea how to find out what an electric outlet can handle for load?
[20:47]<Quantos> Without blowing breakers I mean
[20:47]<Quantos> These seem to have more than what this old house can deliver
[20:48]<Quantos> Maybe if I just plug in one of them
[20:50]<Quantos> Holy hannah
[20:50]<Quantos> Sounds like a 747 on liftoff
[20:59]<@BC_Programming> iirc I think it's 15A in North America for a circuit
[20:59]<Quantos> Yeah
[20:59]<Quantos> I'm in an old house in Edmonton
[20:59]<@BC_Programming> I seem to remember some computers like certain models of Mac G5 having a different plug since they drew more power
[21:00]<Quantos> I think the majority of the breakers in the basement are 10A
[21:00]<Quantos> Hmmm, Pierres gone away, I'll steal the power from his room
[21:00]<@BC_Programming> At least it's not still a Fuse box
[21:01]<Quantos> Yeah, it's one step above the fuse box I think
[21:01]<Quantos> Double push breakers
[21:01]<@BC_Programming> fuse cube
[21:01]<Quantos> Something like that I think
[21:01]<Quantos> Oh I see now, there are these tiny lil numbers on the breakers
[21:02]<Quantos> Now if I could read a size 2 font.....
[21:03]<Quantos> LMAO, tried taking a pic of it with my phone and zooming in
[21:03]<Quantos> I have the shakes, it's not working well
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[21:34]<Quantos> Interesting, the product sheet for an R210 says they came with quad core xeon
[21:34]<Quantos> So they can't be R210's then
[21:35]<Quantos> Hmmm, they don't look like them either
[21:43]<Quantos> Well, open them up I guess
[21:46]<Quantos> Holy crap, all that noise is made by those tiny fans?
[21:49]<Quantos> Good thing I decided to open it
[21:49]<Quantos> Needs thermal paste in a bad way
[21:51]<Quantos> Okay, they are quad core Xeons
[21:51]<Quantos> E1270 v2
[21:52]<Quantos> Sorry E3 1270 v2
[21:52]<@BC_Programming> Not bad at all
[21:52]<@BC_Programming> How much RAM does it have kicking around in it?
[21:54]<Quantos> They have 8GB, but I was also given a bag of ECC
[21:54]<Quantos> They'll take 16GB
[21:54]<Quantos> I don't know if it's registered or not that they need
[21:54]<Quantos> Do you know how to tell the difference by looking at a stick?
[21:55]<@BC_Programming> I'd imagine it might be indicated on the sticker(s) in some way
[21:55]<Quantos> Yeah, that's what I'm peering at myopically
[22:00]<Quantos> Apparently Registered have an extra chip
[22:01]<Quantos> So it wants registered I'm guessing
[22:01]<Quantos> The sticks in the mobo are 9 chips
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[22:02]<Quantos> And the 4GB chips I can't tell as they have a heat spreader on them
[22:02]<Quantos> It's removable though
[22:02]<Nielsson03> Hey Quantos
[22:02]<Quantos> Hi
[22:03]<Nielsson03> Can I get some tips on upgrading my pc?
[22:03]<Nielsson03> I feel like my pc isn't running on its best and I think I have to upgrade something.. but what?
[22:04]<Nielsson03> Is there a way that I can show my specs to you
[22:04]<Nielsson03> All at once
[22:04]<Quantos> I'm in the other channel now
[22:05]<Nielsson03> Ok
[22:08]<Quantos> Hey BC, do you know what the little button on the front with a lower case i is for?
[22:08]<Quantos> I want to push it....
[22:10]<@BC_Programming> web search suggests it is some kind of special reset button
[22:10]<@BC_Programming> related to iDRAC, whatever that is
[22:11]<Quantos> DRAC
[22:11]<Quantos> Sounds like a vampire thingy
[22:11]<Quantos> BRB
[22:20]<Quantos> Can you think of a reason that I shouldn't use Thermal Epoxy on a Xeon CPU BC?
[22:33]<@BC_Programming> would be annoying to remove it later if you wanted to change the heatsink
[22:36]<Quantos> I'm pretty sure the heatsink that's in there is good though
[22:36]<Quantos> Fins are all straight, nice and clean
[22:36]<Quantos> I'll consider it for a while before I go ahead
[22:53]<Quantos> Oh, that's a reset for the DRAC - Dell Remote Access Controller
[22:55]<Quantos> Cam would be a handy chap to have around about now
[22:55]<Quantos> Little bit late in Scotland though
[23:00]<Quantos> So this one server has a daughter board in it, that gives it an extra 4 RJ-45 sockets
[23:01]<@BC_Programming> daughterboard or add-on card
[23:01]<@BC_Programming> could be a fancy network adapter
[23:01]<Quantos> Add on card now that I examine it
[23:02]<Quantos> I wonder if it replaces the integrated NIC
[23:03]<Quantos> It has an intel flag on it
[23:03]<Quantos> Something to look up
[23:05]<Quantos> This is it here https://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-INTEL-PRO-1000-VT-PCI-E-NIC-4-PORT-GIGABIT-SERVER-ADAPTER-EXPI9404VT-YT674/232971244856?epid=1930571699&hash=item363e2b1538:g:CcUAAOSwVZ5byNva
[23:07]<@BC_Programming> dang that's a good bit of kit
[23:07]<Quantos> Yeah, no kidding
[23:07]<@BC_Programming> How much did these servers set you back or did you get them free?
[23:07]<Quantos> I paid $300 for both
[23:08]<Quantos> I think I got a hell of a deal
[23:08]<@BC_Programming> good deal IMO
[23:08]<Quantos> Yeah, I have to concur
[23:10]<@BC_Programming> Any other add-on cards of interest? Were these dual socket motherboards?
[23:10]<@BC_Programming> wait no, just single socket
[23:10]<Quantos> Single socket only
[23:10]<@BC_Programming> also see it's a blade/rack design, I guess the network card was in a riser?
[23:10]<Quantos> I just noticed something underneath the optional DVD
[23:10]<Quantos> Yes
[23:10]<Quantos> That's why I thought it was a daughter board
[23:11]<@BC_Programming> I suppose technically add-on cards are daughterboards now that I think about it
[23:11]<Quantos> A second HDD
[23:11]<Quantos> It sure looks like it
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[23:12]<Quantos> It has to be a second HDD
[23:12]<Quantos> Oh yea, it's designated HDD 1
[23:12]<Quantos> The one on the PSU side is HDD 0
[23:13]<Quantos> It's upside down though
[23:21]<@BC_Programming> What models/size are they
[23:29]<Quantos> I'm trying to figure out how to access them
[23:29]<Quantos> They have these easy access dealy's that always give me nightmares
[23:30]<Quantos> Oh, on HDD 0 I can make out Constellation ES 500GB
[23:31]<Quantos> On the upside down one labelled HDD 1 I'm as yet unsure
[23:32]<Quantos> Ah, there's a roadmap on the inside of the top cover
[23:33]<Quantos> Same thing on the second drive
[23:33]<Quantos> Constellation ES
[23:33]<Quantos> Seagate right?
[23:33]<@BC_Programming> I think so
[23:34]<@BC_Programming> WD uses colors
[23:34]<Quantos> Yeah, not so useful if you're color blind
[23:34]<Quantos> Heeee
[23:35]<Quantos> Okay, I promise no more lame jokes
[23:35]<@BC_Programming> It says the colour name :P
[23:35]<Quantos> I know :P
[23:36]<Quantos> That little DVD is interesting
[23:36]<Quantos> Looks like a laptop model
[23:36]<@BC_Programming> some desktops use laptop style slim drives, would make sense for a rack server too I suppose, especially one that skinny
[23:37]<Quantos> Yeah
[23:37]<Quantos> Oh, I also ordered a new system yesterday
[23:37]<Quantos> I went with the Lian Li LANCOOL ONE Digital chassis
[23:38]<Quantos> You should see it, great deal for $135 cdn
[23:38]<Quantos> I recently came into a tidy little sum of moolah
[23:38]<Quantos> Haven't had a new computer in about 15 years so I'm spoiling myself
[23:39]<@BC_Programming> Oh I thought you built one some time after I did in 2014
[23:39]<Quantos> I did, but then I sold it
[23:39]<Quantos> LOL
[23:39]<Quantos> I've been using these refurbed commercial lines from HP and Dell
[23:39]<Quantos> Great machines actually for what you pay
[23:40]<@BC_Programming> I considered a replacement build myself, but cannot justify it because mine runs everything I throw at it still
[23:40]<Quantos> Yeah, that was my i7 4790K
[23:40]<Quantos> Mine will run everything but two games
[23:40]<@BC_Programming> 4770K here
[23:40]<Quantos> So I went overboard
[23:41]<Quantos> i9 9900K
[23:41]<Quantos> 32GB RAM
[23:41]<Quantos> 4 x 1TB SSD's
[23:41]<Quantos> GTX 1050Ti
[23:41]<@BC_Programming> Yeah I have thrown money into this system too. at least it's better than when I did that for my old Pentium-II machine
[23:41]<Quantos> It'll do more work than mages
[23:41]<Quantos> Games
[23:41]<Quantos> interesting typo
[23:42]<@BC_Programming> I thought that was a joke. Could work as one
[23:42]<@BC_Programming> didn't know mages were known for being hard working though
[23:42]<Quantos> This one sits in the shade and moans about a bad back all day
[23:42]<Quantos> So I threw a fireball at him
[23:43]<Quantos> Hmm
[23:43]<Quantos> Need something really skinny to get this heatsink off the RAM
[23:43]<@BC_Programming> I'd leave it
[23:44]<Quantos> It's an aftermarket diy heatsinnk
[23:44]<Quantos> sink
[23:44]<Quantos> Those sliding clips
[23:44]<@BC_Programming> Oh, ok. Was thinking like the ones Corsair puts on their sticks
[23:44]<Quantos> And I need a bandaid
[23:45]<Quantos> I think I'll just leave it now
[23:45]<Quantos> ....
[23:45]<@BC_Programming> Mine is currently GA-Z87X EP43-UD3H i7 4770K, GTX 1070, 32GB DDR3, 1TB SSD, two 4TB Drives for storage, Blu Ray Burner, also Sound Blaster ZXR for some reason
[23:45]<Quantos> So from what I can tell all of the RAM sticks are registered ECC
[23:45]<@BC_Programming> if I remember correctly you wer ethe one that recommended my case
[23:45]<Quantos> Nice
[23:45]<Quantos> Which Chassis?
[23:46]<@BC_Programming> Thermaltake Commander G42
[23:46]<@BC_Programming> if I recall
[23:46]<Quantos> Oh, I like those
[23:46]<Quantos> Good fans too
[23:46]<Quantos> Not like that Azza or Dukase crap
[23:47]<@BC_Programming> I swapped out the stock CPU Heatsink for a Hyper 212 Evo and finally overclocked a while back
[23:47]<Quantos> Ouch
[23:47]<@BC_Programming> only to 4Ghz but at least the "K" is working for me now
[23:47]<Quantos> if you're going to OC then you should go Noctua or Phantek
[23:47]<Quantos> Better fans
[23:47]<Quantos> better heatsinks
[23:48]<Quantos> Of course higher price
[23:48]<@BC_Programming> If I wasn't going to overclock I wouldn't have replaced the fan at all :P
[23:48]<Quantos> So, that's an opinion thing really
[23:48]<Quantos> No, the intel coolers are pretty great
[23:48]<Quantos> I like them
[23:48]<@BC_Programming> I don't like the way they clip in personally
[23:49]<Quantos> Yeah, that is a lipple cheesy
[23:49]<Quantos> little
[23:49]<Quantos> I wonder if anyone makes quieter fans for a server
[23:49]<@BC_Programming> if I remember the heatsinks were on sale though I forget the price- I did get two, other one got put in my 2008 build and I upgraded that from a Q8200 to a QX6700 for like 14 bucks
[23:50]<Quantos> Oh nice
[23:50]<Quantos> I seem to remember you telling me about that
[23:50]<Quantos> That was a while back
[23:50]<@BC_Programming> Better still- I took my brother's old PC since he didn't want it anymore, so I recently replaced it's crap E-series CPU with the Q8200
[23:51]<Quantos> Oh cool
[23:51]<Quantos> I should get a quad core for my picture frame pc
[23:51]<@BC_Programming> And just like my 2008 build once the upgrades are done I almost never use it lol
[23:51]<Quantos> It's just a core2duo right now
[23:51]<Quantos> It struggles a bit on some of my larger images
[23:52]<Quantos> I should experiment with that using *.png
[23:52]<Quantos> The RAW is what's hurting it's performance I think
[23:53]<Quantos> Hmm, I don't think these heatsinks come off
[23:54]<Quantos> I see an extra chip if I hold them up to the light, so they must be registered too
[23:54]<Quantos> They should work, I have to try, brb
[23:56]<Quantos> Oh, I can't
[23:56]<Quantos> No thermal paste
[23:57]<Quantos> I guess that waits til tomorrow