Session Start: Sun Feb 07 00:00:00 2016 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[04:40]<@BC_Programming> seems I accidentally unplugged this laptop at some point
[04:40]<@BC_Programming> 2% battery heh
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[16:57]<p0ttsi> !seen jacky
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[17:57]<Mulreay> Howdy doodly doo
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[18:00]<@jacky> !lastspoke pottsi
[18:01]<@BC_Programming> Hey-o Mulreay, and Jacky
[18:02] * @jacky is last ... again....
[18:02]<@jacky> <g>
[18:02]<@jacky> BC_Programming: hello
[18:02]<@BC_Programming> P0ttsi was just here and !seen'd you Jacky, I don't know if that was actually P0ttsi or an imposter though
[18:02]<@jacky> how's things?
[18:02]<Mulreay> Howdy
[18:02]<@BC_Programming> well it was actually P0ttsi but I don't know if it was actually Pottsi... you know
[18:02]<@jacky> he must have super IRCcop powers, because: pottsi has been idle 57hrs 43mins 1sec, signed on Fri Feb 05 03:19:32 2016
[18:03]<@jacky> is what a /whois returns
[18:03]<@jacky> and you just said he was not idle
[18:03]<@jacky> heh
[18:03]<@BC_Programming> yeah Pottsi, the user was P0ttsi that seen'd you
[18:03]<@jacky> ah.
[18:03]<@jacky> so
[18:03]<@jacky> I stand ko-rected
[18:04]<@BC_Programming> I wasn't really clear I suppose, though I guess whether zero looks like an o depends on one's font as well :P
[18:04]<@jacky> actually.. depends on one's glasses and vision
[18:04]<@jacky> heheeh
[18:04]<Mulreay> Feeling the love in the room
[18:04]<@BC_Programming> ok group hug
[18:04]<@jacky> if you see anybody that looks like a pottsi though, you can tell him that I already rec'd and replied to his email. :)
[18:05]<@jacky> Mulreay: I would tell you to **** off, but the bot would bark at me
[18:05]<@jacky> you know.. just to make you feel like eerything is normal
[18:05]<@jacky> for here
[18:05]<@jacky> that is
[18:05]<@jacky> heh
[18:05]<Mulreay> I spoke to him a while back and he didn't look that copied, I'm thinking he has not yet been cloned.
[18:05]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: btw no I don't want any toast
[18:06]<@jacky> toasted what?
[18:06]<Mulreay> Barm cake?
[18:06]<@jacky> barf cake??
[18:06]<Mulreay> Toasted Tea make
[18:06]<Mulreay> lol
[18:06]<@jacky> heh
[18:07]<Mulreay> New bed, cannot type for sh1t
[18:07]<@jacky> shit... that's a "barn cake"
[18:07]<@jacky> :)
[18:07]<@BC_Programming> Or teacakes! We don't want any teacakes around here. We want no muffins, no toast, no teacakes, no buns, baps, baguettes or bagels, no croissants, and no hot-cross buns and definitely no flapjacks
[18:07]<Mulreay> Barm cake and teacake
[18:07]<@jacky> flap jacks ? !!! ???
[18:07]<@jacky> <ahem>
[18:08]<Mulreay> Hahahahahahahahahah that was awesome, there is no way you could remember that#
[18:08]<@BC_Programming> Nope trasncribed it, had to swap out muffins at the start for teacakes of course
[18:08]<@BC_Programming> Though you know as well as I that you are supposed to say "ahh... so you are a waffle man"
[18:09]<@jacky> did you all know that mIRC has a text-to-speech function built in?
[18:09]<@BC_Programming> transcribed rather
[18:09]<Mulreay> I would have done that but was still laughing at the list
[18:09]<@jacky> it is hilarious
[18:09]<@BC_Programming> haha nice try jacky, you won't get me with that again
[18:09]<@jacky> huh?
[18:09]<@jacky> I'm serious.. I just turned it on, in this channel
[18:09]<@jacky> it would drive me nuts, if I left it on
[18:10]<@BC_Programming> yeah and I'm a space alien from planet ragnororak, on a mission to Earth to find our most delicious vegetables
[18:10]<@jacky> heheeh
[18:10]<@BC_Programming> But of course that isn't true *shifty eyes*
[18:11]<Mulreay> I fecking knew it!!!
[18:11]<@jacky> BC_Programming: click on the icon at the top left of this window. get a pull down. find Speech. you might have it on Default now. change it to On
[18:12]<@jacky> say when
[18:12]<@jacky> hehe
[18:12]<@BC_Programming> oh interesting so it is there. I'm not turning it on though, you have something planned and I want no part of it lol
[18:12]<@jacky> not really.. I just sort of discovered it
[18:12]<@jacky> I used the fucntion, ina script once. but never played with it on a channel
[18:13]<@jacky> ok.. back to the real world
[18:13]<@BC_Programming> you humans are silly
[18:13]<@jacky> Windows 7 question:
[18:13]<@BC_Programming> I mean, you guys! you guys are silly
[18:13]<@jacky> has MS stopped doing the monthly updates?
[18:13] * @BC_Programming tucks the tentacle back into his shirt
[18:13]<Mulreay> I swear I called this years ago.. BC is an alien.. my psychiatrist owes me a deep and meaningful apology.
[18:13]<@jacky> of course he is an alien... he's from Canada... who ELSE would live in that cold?
[18:13]<@BC_Programming> jacky: I don't know, tbh. From what I'm aware they are trying to force Windows 10 through Windows Update
[18:14]<@jacky> I keep getting that Win10 free upgrade pop up, and just close it
[18:14]<@jacky> but.. I felt things were sort of laggy
[18:14]<@BC_Programming> I'll fire up my VM and see what it does, though I suppose it would have old updates to install
[18:14]<Mulreay> I have windows 10... it was a pear presure thing
[18:14]<@jacky> so I used task manager and found svchost.exe one of the instances of it was uisng all of one core
[18:14]<@jacky> often
[18:14]<Mulreay> yes pears pressured me
[18:14]<@jacky> then it hit me.. I haven't had an upgrade in a while
[18:14]<@jacky> I wonder what is going on...
[18:15]<@BC_Programming> I installed it on some of my backup computers, obliterated all the crap that tries to install it, upgrade, recommend, etc.
[18:15]<@jacky> <&BC_Programming> I installed it <<< what? upgrades to Win7 or Win10 ?
[18:15]<@BC_Programming> Win10
[18:16]<@jacky> oh.. ok
[18:16]<@jacky> well.. something is going on.. .with whatever they have done
[18:16]<@BC_Programming> Just powering up my Windows 7 VM and taking a look see at Updates, I'll see if I can see if there are some with more recent dates
[18:16]<@jacky> I've been getting this lag... and see core temps go up... so I found that svchost running... often. not all the time, but often
[18:16]<@BC_Programming> They have changed it so Windows 10 is a "recommended" update so if you have automatic updates turned on it will automatically upgrade to Windows 10 without any user consent
[18:17]<@jacky> I don't
[18:17]<@jacky> well.. unless somehow they changed that
[18:17]<@jacky> I'd have to go look to even find the setting
[18:17]<@jacky> I remember that about once a month or something, something would happen and ASK me if i wanted to
[18:17]<@jacky> and I'd put it off for 4 hours or something
[18:17]<@jacky> until a day when I felt like it
[18:18]<@jacky> I realize now, that I haven't seen that in... a good long while
[18:18]<@jacky> holy shit!
[18:18]<@jacky> it stopped notifying me
[18:18]<@jacky> just checked
[18:18]<@jacky> in Control pannel
[18:19]<@jacky> 51 important updates are available
[18:19]<@jacky> 7 optional
[18:19]<@jacky> sigh
[18:19]<@jacky> 290 meg
[18:19]<@BC_Programming> I bet Windows 10 is one of the "important" ones too
[18:19]<@jacky> sigh.. now to pick through them, to be sure of what i swhat
[18:19]<@jacky> I assume that if one accidentally does win10, that there is no going back?
[18:20]<@BC_Programming> Not sure... given what Microsoft has done with it so far I wouldn't be surprised if they "forgot" to provide a rollback feature
[18:21]<@jacky> do you like it?
[18:21]<@jacky> are you staying with Win7 (at least for now?)
[18:21]<@BC_Programming> I don't have it on any of the systems I use day-to-day. I use Windows 8.1 on the ones I do
[18:21]<@BC_Programming> (Thus the VM to check Windows 7 :P)
[18:22]<@jacky> ok
[18:23]<@jacky> just checked.. it is still set to Check for updates, bu tlet me choose whether to d/dl and install
[18:23]<@jacky> sigh
[18:23]<@jacky> and I can't see anything that specifically says Win10 in there in all that mess
[18:23]<@BC_Programming> On the systems I do have it on, It's OK as an OS but I don't like the approach they've taken where Telemetry cannot be shut off and how Windows Update has severely restricted user controls.
[18:24]<@BC_Programming> yeah just checked in the VM and I'm not seeing it there either after checking for updates
[18:24]<@BC_Programming> first attempt failed of course. Classic
[18:24]<@jacky> did you too have like 50 updates, waiting?
[18:25]<@jacky> I have my own defintion of what telemetry is, from radio stuff. What is telemetry in the context that you mentioned it?
[18:25]<@BC_Programming> 1 important and 47 optional
[18:25]<@jacky> ok on 1 and 47
[18:25]<@BC_Programming> seems I might have updated the VM on Jan 29th btw
[18:26]<@jacky> if an update is MS Net framework, then that is sure to NOT be Win 10, right?
[18:26]<@jacky> how did you check date of last update?
[18:26]<@jacky> found update history
[18:26]<@BC_Programming> last update date is listed on the main Windows Update page for me as "Updates were installed:"
[18:26]<@jacky> great... 7/21/2015
[18:27]<@jacky> 
[18:27]<@jacky> <@jacky> I have my own defintion of what telemetry is, from radio stuff. What is telemetry in the context that you mentioned it?
[18:27]<@jacky> 
[18:27]<@BC_Programming> .NET framework isn't Win10
[18:27]<@BC_Programming> As far as telemetry- it basically watches everything you do and sends that information back to MS so they can "improve Windows"
[18:27]<@jacky> that jives with what I thought
[18:27]<@jacky> and it CANNOT be controlled by the computer owner, with Win10 ??
[18:28]<@BC_Programming> You can control it but you can't turn it off entirely
[18:28]<@BC_Programming> options are "Basic" "Enhanced" and "Full" in terms of what information is sent back to Lord Bill
[18:28]<@jacky> ok
[18:28]<@jacky> I have a ton of security updates
[18:29]<@jacky> they won't hide win10 in them, right?
[18:29]<@BC_Programming> I don't think so, when I've seen it it has been listed as "Upgrade to Windows 10" in the updates
[18:30]<@BC_Programming> though to make things extra fun- Microsoft also backported all the telemetry stuff to Windows 7 and 8 into "security" updates, so that's fun
[18:30]<@jacky> I clicked on more info on one that is labeled : Update for Winows 7 for x64based...
[18:30]<@jacky> and here is the link:
[18:30]<@jacky> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2952664
[18:30]<@jacky> that's creepy
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[18:31]<@jacky> speaking of telemetry... check out this: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080149
[18:31]<@BC_Programming> Agreed, that's one of their fun surprises
[18:32]<@BC_Programming> ^ yep that's the one there, wonderful huh?
[18:32]<@jacky> sheesh
[18:32]<@BC_Programming> Nobody wants that shit
[18:32]<@jacky> this is a pain in the ass
[18:33]<@jacky> this one is huge.. 50 meg. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/890830
[18:33]<@jacky> would you do it?
[18:34]<@BC_Programming> that looks fine
[18:36]<@jacky> this one is under optional... no need for me to do it, is there? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2952664
[18:37]<@BC_Programming> yeah I'd just not install the optional updates, if only to save going through them all
[18:37]<@jacky> one is about TLS
[18:38]<@jacky> one is abou tsome Azbickstan font.. I think I'll skip it. heeheeh
[18:38]<@jacky> but what is TLS ? (I've seen that somewhere... is that something to do with security, with email? )
[18:39]<@BC_Programming> my approach has been to make sure there is no "Upgrade to Windows 10" nonsense in Windows Update, install the updates, and then run GWX Control panel and eliminate most of the Windows 10 crap (http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/)
[18:39]<@BC_Programming> TLS is an internet security thing if I recall
[18:39]<@jacky> would you do it?
[18:40]<@BC_Programming> I probably would
[18:40]<@jacky> ok
[18:40]<@jacky> check this out: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3135445#bookmark-prerequisites
[18:40]<@jacky> I wonder if that is why I'm not getting the automatic notices any more?
[18:40]<@jacky> hehee
[18:41]<@BC_Programming> likely
[18:42]<@jacky> well.. some of these are huge... I'm going to pick at them, deciding as I go, over the next few days
[18:42]<@jacky> I might have to ask you for a refresher on them
[18:42]<@jacky> :)
[18:43]<@BC_Programming> Yeah I just install all of them and rip out the shit I don't want. massive pain in the ass since I have to run that above tool since that upgrade notification forcibly installs itself each time despite me hiding it, then I have to run through a bunch of crap to disable the added telemetry services
[18:43]<@jacky> oh?
[18:44]<@jacky> so you CAN get some stuff out?
[18:44]<@jacky> wait.. you are talking about Win8.1 or what?
[18:45]<@jacky> (just started a 50 meg IE update... this will take a while... )
[18:46]<@BC_Programming> Both, the tool I linked works for Win8 and Win7, the telemetry stuff is separate and I google instructions each time
[18:47]<@BC_Programming> Found a batch script which basically uninstalls the updates that have telemetry considerations involved, though looks to have some other stuff that it removes known to cause other problems: https://gist.github.com/xvitaly/eafa75ed2cb79b3bd4e9
[18:48]<@jacky> you posted a link for a tool?
[18:48]<@jacky> (scrolling back, now)
[18:49]<@BC_Programming> GWX Control Panel: (http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/)
[18:49]<@jacky> (http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/)
[18:49]<@BC_Programming> Removes that nag screen, which as it turns out also tries to download Windows 10 in the background for "When" you decide to upgrade (I love their optimism)
[18:50]<@jacky> heh
[18:50]<@jacky> 
[18:50]<@jacky> <&BC_Programming> my approach has been to make sure there is no "Upgrade to Windows 10" nonsense in Windows Update, install the updates, and then run GWX Control panel and eliminate most of the Windows 10 crap
[18:50]<@jacky> I don't udnerstand something
[18:50]<@jacky> there
[18:50]<@jacky> ah.. ok
[18:50]<@jacky> on re-reading, I think I got it
[18:51]<@jacky> thanks
[18:52]<@jacky> ie d/l is at 60% ... going to make a sandwich
[18:52]<@jacky> heh
[18:54]<+pottsi> actually windows 10 is pretty good
[18:55]<@BC_Programming> LIES
[18:56]<@BC_Programming> well actually I said the same thing earlier I suppose, still not a fan of their deployment approach
[18:56]<+pottsi> that i don't agree with :)
[19:02]<@jacky> well... let's reboot and get this one out of the way
[19:02]<@jacky> brb << I hope
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[19:24]<@jacky> great...
[19:24]<@jacky> installed that one IE update
[19:24]<@jacky> and now it won't d/l any others
[19:24]<@jacky> the little bar just goes and goes and goes ... and stays on 0%
[19:24]<@jacky> sigh
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[22:46]<tobaton> Anyone know how to properly set up a usb XBox 360 controller on Ubuntu?
[22:46]<tobaton> I'm having this weird problem where jstest-gtk is only showing wireless receivers, but no wired controllers.
[22:47]<tobaton> How do I fix this aggravating problem?
[22:48]<tobaton> Even stranger is the fact that xpad is showing up as a note-taking app in the Software Center. It's supposed to be a generic joystick driver.
[22:49]<tobaton> I blacklisted xpad in hopes that maybe getting xboxdrv would solve the issue I was having regarding my wildly decalibrated analog sticks, and the fact that my face buttons (A/B/X/Y) were showing up as D-PAD buttons (Up/Down/Left/Right).
[22:49]<tobaton> I've always found that finding the solution to a problem is often much more difficult than actually solving the problem.
[22:50]<tobaton> I hate to sound impatient, but is anyone active on here?
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