Session Start: Tue Mar 17 00:00:00 2015 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[14:13]<@jacky> 
[14:13]<@jacky> http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/03/17/microsoft-to-axe-internet-explorer/
[14:13]<@jacky> 
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> yeah pretty much renaming it to spartan... I'm not entirely convinced spartan is going to be a "whole new" browser as much as just giving the new IE version a different name
[14:16]<@jacky> oh. a whole new name is not the same as a whole new browser?
[14:16]<@jacky> who'd a thunk it?....
[14:16]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[14:17]<@jacky> It doesn't really matter. You should buy it anyway. That's what it is all about... they need people to buy stuff.
[14:17]<@jacky> they don't need to make new stuff that is better
[14:17]<@jacky> they just need people to buy stuff
[14:17]<@jacky> see how that works now?
[14:17]<@BC_Programming> It's going to be free though
[14:17]<@jacky> Windows is free?
[14:17]<@BC_Programming> No spartan
[14:17]<@jacky> it comes with Windows, I thought
[14:17]<@jacky> like IE does, now
[14:18]<@BC_Programming> it does but it will likely be downloadable for earlier versions as well, if I had to guess, probably windows 7
[14:18]<@jacky> woo hoo!
[14:18]<@BC_Programming> Windows 10 is going to be free for Windows 8 and 8.1 users as far as I'm aware
[14:18]<@jacky> so if you BOUGHT Win7, you get spartan for "free" ??? Wow!!
[14:18]<@jacky> heh
[14:19]<@jacky> does Win8 suck? is that why they are doing the free Win10?
[14:20]<@BC_Programming> I think it's because of the faster release cadence
[14:20]<@jacky> what happened to Win9?
[14:20]<@jacky> blew right by it?
[14:20]<@BC_Programming> Win8 is fine- at least IMO- though my co-workers disagree :P
[14:20]<@jacky> ok
[14:20]<@BC_Programming> yeah marketing bullcrap pretty much
[14:20]<@BC_Programming> for the win9 skip that is
[14:21]<@jacky> marketing bullcrap pretty much <<< which is the correct way of saying that which I was being so sarcastic about, a few minutes ago
[14:21]<@jacky> heh
[14:21]<@jacky> 
[14:21]<@jacky> Did you see this? http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,149811.msg926442.html#msg926442
[14:21]<@BC_Programming> there are some theories that it's for "compatibility" because stupid programs will check if the windows name starts with "Windows 9" to see if it's windows 9x, but that's only crappy Java programs that nobody uses anyways
[14:22]<@BC_Programming> oh yeah, I did, lol
[14:22]<@jacky> ok on Windows95, Windows98, etc.
[14:22]<@jacky> Isn't that thread something? I feel like one big, "I told you so"
[14:22]<@BC_Programming> heh "who could have possibly seen this coming?"
[14:23]<@BC_Programming> "if only somebody had warned you... oh well"
[14:23]<@jacky> and he demonstrates that he hasn't learned anything, by saying he is for, "Remove IRC chat and enable One on One chat"
[14:24]<@jacky> I think he has no clue as to what IRC is about, what it can do, and what it cannot do.
[14:24]<@jacky> Then again, he spends so little time around it, it is likely that he lives in fantasy land about it.
[14:25]<@BC_Programming> The thing I wonder is whether "shutting it down" is really feasible? I mean he can remove the link but if he just let's the channel expire somebody else can just register it, like we did here, right? Not that I'm a fan of drawing much of parallel
[14:25]<@BC_Programming> and by "we" I mean "you" I guess :P But I'd love to see Nathan's reaction to that, Steve's was pretty hilarious
[14:26]<@jacky> ... trying to remember what Steve said/did.... Didn't I talk to the people here and ask them if they wanted me to keep it, before responding to him?
[14:26]<@jacky> I mean he can remove the link <<< the link is what 'empowers' it. It brings people.
[14:27]<@BC_Programming> iirc I think he went straight to Pottsi and said if he wasn't given the channel back he'd start "legal action" or something? I'd have to check the logs to be certain but that is what I remember
[14:27]<@jacky> Ah! I do remember that term being batted around. heheheeh
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> OK on the link
[14:28]<@jacky> Strange though, isn't it? that for the last x years here, it has been very calm. Not TOO much drama. Gee... I wonder why that is? Could it be that there is NOT a lot of rules to break, thus not a lot of drama?
[14:30]<@BC_Programming> that and the rules make sense, pretty sure over there they just make them up as they go
[14:31]<@jacky> they just make them up as they go <<< that's a good summary.
[14:31]<@jacky> again, that's an "I told you so" from long ago
[14:31]<@jacky> I wonder why they are just noticing it now... some of the posts there made it seem like it was fairly new.
[14:32]<@jacky> Maybe it takes some people a while to see that which is as plain as the nose on your face.
[14:32]<@jacky> and the rules make sense <<< this is the key.
[14:33]<@BC_Programming> That and we tend not to entertain the sorts of folks who couldn't find their ass with both hands, let alone make them mods
[14:34]<@jacky> we tend not to entertain <<< there are other ways, other than puffing up, stroking one's own ego, and issuing bans.
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> haha puffing
[14:35]<@jacky> let alone make them mods << mods, ops, whatever... should NOT be qualified by how much technical experience they have, no matter what the topic of the channel is, including checkers and Go Fish. A basic idea... yes. But qualification should be on common sense, and having an idea of what happens on IRC, and how to handle it.
[14:35]<@jacky> you remembered "puffing", eh? heheeheheh
[14:37]<@jacky> !seen calum
[15:41]<+camerongray> Hey BC_Programming & jacky
[15:41]<@BC_Programming> hey cam
[15:42]<+camerongray> Yeah, saw the CH thing
[15:42]<+camerongray> At least Nathan wants to do something, he just needs to get off the idea of one-to-one
[15:42]<+camerongray> Think Calum said he'd reply at some point
[15:42]<+camerongray> If I'm honest though, shutting it down would still be better than leaving it as is
[15:43]<+camerongray> if he removes the link, i stops people coming in for help which pretty much solves the problem
[15:43]<+camerongray> That problem being that people asking for help often just get abused
[15:43]<+camerongray> Or get dangerous help
[15:44]<+camerongray> Oh, Calum did reply
[15:45]<+camerongray> <3 Calum
[15:45]<+camerongray> He said exactly my thoughts
[15:45]<+camerongray> IRC does work (There was another computer help channel on Freenode that worked perfectly), it just needs good ops
[15:47]<+camerongray> Now, given that everyone who replied (albeit only 3 of us) said the same thing, hopefully Nathan listens
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[15:53]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: What is your opinion or do you just totally not care? :P
[15:54]<@BC_Programming> Since I don't visit the channel I don't really have one
[15:54]<+camerongray> ahh
[15:55]<+camerongray> But would you if it was no longer a total disaster? :P
[15:55]<+camerongray> Almost said a word that would upsed ChanbotVIII there :P
[15:55]<@BC_Programming> Probably not, but I don't know... I said the same thing about making a facebook account after all
[15:55]<+camerongray> hahaha!
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[18:52]<mib_9uibnh> Hello
[18:53]<mib_9uibnh> Does any1 know anything about Greymail
[19:00]<+camerongray> huh?
[19:00]<mib_9uibnh> Does any1 know anything about Greymail
[19:00]<@BC_Programming> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graymail_%28email%29
[19:01]<mib_9uibnh> I know what it is
[19:01]<+camerongray> So....
[19:01]<@BC_Programming> Then why are you asking us :P
[19:02]<mib_9uibnh> Because I want to bypass it so I get all my emails
[19:03]<@BC_Programming> Do you mean your E-mail Client is considering them junk/spam?
[19:05]<mib_9uibnh> No Greymail is it does notr go to Zimbra
[19:25]<mib_9uibnh> My email client is Zimbra (I think)
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[22:18]<@BC_Programming> I just realized that there are three paydays for me next month and I don't have any expenses that aren't already covered
[22:18]<@BC_Programming> wooo
[22:49]<Quantos> It's time for that 4k monitor you've been wanting :D
[22:49]<Quantos> The 28"
[22:53]<@BC_Programming> I was thinking either a laptop or a midrange build
[22:53]<@BC_Programming> mostly I want to build just because I like new things and the whole building experience
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