Session Start: Sun Dec 22 00:00:00 2013
Session Ident: #glitchpc
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[06:36]<PCdoc> any good free firewall you can recommend?
[06:36]<PCdoc> had zone alarm .. but its lags the pc a lot
[06:45]<+camerongray> Windows Firewall?
[06:46]<PCdoc> no ..
[06:46]<PCdoc> is windows xp firewall good enoguh?
[06:46]<PCdoc> enough *
[06:46]<+camerongray> Well, in general XP isn't good enough but the firewall should be fine
[06:46]<@BC_Programming> Software Firewalls are garbage anyway
[06:46]<+camerongray> Yeah
[06:47]<+camerongray> You shouldn't have the PC connected directly to a modem anyway, it should go through a router which will do a lot of the firewall stuff
[06:47]<PCdoc> I heard win firewall is good for blocking incomming packets but not outgoing
[06:47]<+camerongray> I honestly don't know if I actually have a software firewall installed
[06:48]<@BC_Programming> and why do you need to block outgoing packets? do you frequently run untrusted software
[06:48]<PCdoc> My internet is like, there's an ethernet wire connected to a modem supplied by the ISP. which cannot be configured
[06:48]<+camerongray> Surely you can use a router
[06:49]<@BC_Programming> nor does that answer why you would need outgoing packet protection
[06:49]<+camerongray> Making your machine completely face the internet is a bad idea
[06:50]<+camerongray> lol - Turns out I do have a software firewall - "Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)", "Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)", "Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)"
[06:50]<+camerongray> i.e. it doesn't do anything
[06:50]<@BC_Programming> heh
[06:51]<+camerongray> But there's no need, I don't run strange software I don't trust and I'm behind NAT
[06:52]<PCdoc> this is what is aupplied by ISP http://www.innomedia.com/products_sohores_mta6328-1be2s_features.shtml
[06:52]<PCdoc> supplied*
[06:53]<+camerongray> That looks to me like a router
[06:54]<+camerongray> I take it your PC has a LAN IP of something like 192.168.x.x, 10.x.x.x or 172.x.x.x?
[06:55]<PCdoc> no .. obtain automatically
[06:55]<PCdoc> is selected
[06:55]<+camerongray> What is the current IP address of the system, it will have one
[06:55]<PCdoc> starts with 123.
[06:56]<@BC_Programming> and?
[06:56]<PCdoc> 123.236
[06:56]<@BC_Programming> ipconfig shows it all
[06:56]<PCdoc> shall i pm ?
[06:56]<@BC_Programming> No, are you... you don't even understand basic networking?
[06:56]<+camerongray> Strange, that looks like an external IP
[06:56]<@BC_Programming> my internal ip is 192.168.0.100
[06:57]<+camerongray> I'm 10.1.1.99 :P
[06:57]<PCdoc> i did ipconfig /all
[06:57]<PCdoc> shows ip, dhcp server
[06:58]<@BC_Programming> IPv4 address
[06:58]<+camerongray> If you go to ipchicken.com, is the IP there the same as the one you saw in ipconfig?
[06:58]<PCdoc> yes
[06:58]<@BC_Programming> If so it sounds like your system might be on the DMZ
[06:58]<+camerongray> Then buy a router or move to a better ISP
[06:59]<+camerongray> If you are paranoid about security, putting your PC straight on the internet is a bad idea
[06:59]<PCdoc> Actually, this ISP provides me a landline phone. I dont have any other option for this area. Secondly, there are two more ISP, who give a cisco cable modem. But the problem is I cannot afford two different people for phone and Internet
[07:00]<+camerongray> Then get a proper router
[07:00]<PCdoc> ok, then I will have to put the router after this modem?
[07:00]<+camerongray> Yes...
[07:01]<+camerongray> Surely you know this, my granny has set this stuff up before
[07:01]<PCdoc> Because if I turn of this mode, the phone dies
[07:01]<PCdoc> modem*
[07:01]<@BC_Programming> Then don't turn it off
[07:01]<PCdoc> Yeah I mean, I dont have a choice of completely removing the modem.
[07:01]<+camerongray> You can't completely remove the modem!
[07:01]<PCdoc> If I want phone
[07:02]<+camerongray> I have Modem -> Router -> PCs
[07:02]<+camerongray> No way I could remove the modem
[07:02]<@BC_Programming> Networking 101
[07:03]<+camerongray> Exactly
[07:03]<@BC_Programming> It's forgivable though, he doesn't work with PCs for a living
[07:03]<@BC_Programming> oh wait
[07:03]<+camerongray> haha
[07:04]<@BC_Programming> I wonder if Circle makes modems
[07:04]<+camerongray> haha
[07:04]<@BC_Programming> or routers
[07:04]<+camerongray> My 70-something year old Granny can identify her router from her modem
[07:05]<PCdoc> I do work for PC's. But m like dud with networking. Apart from crimping and basic setting up wireless router / modem.
[07:05]<PCdoc> with PC's *
[07:05]<+camerongray> So you understand basic setup of a router?
[07:05]<+camerongray> But you don't use one
[07:05]<+camerongray> Or understand the need for one?
[07:06]<PCdoc> well No ...
[07:06]<@BC_Programming> you work for PCs? HE sounds like a drone
[07:06]<PCdoc> hahah
[07:06]<PCdoc> i corrected it
[07:06]<+camerongray> So... you can only ever connect one PC to the internet at a time
[07:06]<+camerongray> Then have it sitting right on the internet open for attack
[07:07]<+pottsi> i'll attack it :D
[07:07]<+camerongray> lol
[07:08]<PCdoc> There's a switch which they call as server near the terrace of this building. The main line connects to this switch and then a number of wires individually connects to user's PC
[07:08]<@BC_Programming> won't be as easy as that ultimate bot thing, that was hilarious btw
[07:08]<+camerongray> PCdoc: So?
[07:08]<+pottsi> what are you trying to do?
[07:08]<+pottsi> i cba reading up
[07:08]<+pottsi> me BC_Programming?
[07:08]<@BC_Programming> Pottsi: yeah
[07:08]<+camerongray> pottsi: Point out that software firewalls are pointless and you should use a proper router to prevent incoming stuff
[07:09]<+pottsi> ahhh BC_Programming it was so fuuny
[07:09]<+pottsi> pissed myself laughing
[07:09]<PCdoc> I have this: dlink adsl2/2+ modem router
[07:09]<+pottsi> yeah firewalls/av are pointless imho
[07:09]<PCdoc> dsl-2520u
[07:09]<+camerongray> pottsi: You own it or you use it?
[07:09]<+pottsi> own what?
[07:09]<+camerongray> PCdoc: *
[07:09]<+pottsi> xD
[07:09]<@BC_Programming> D-Link? that's a good brand. Better use circle instead
[07:10]<PCdoc> I have it in my stock. camerongray which I can use?
[07:10]<PCdoc> circle does not make router's. atleast yet
[07:10]<+pottsi> 99% of routers allow firewalls via router
[07:10]<+camerongray> If you have a DSL connection which it doesn't sound like you could use that
[07:10]<+camerongray> You'll probably need a cable router
[07:11]<+camerongray> Oh no, because if Circle made routers they would be the best because of some reasons and we should all use them because better routers are pointelss
[07:11]<PCdoc> I'll buy one tomorrow then.
[07:11]<PCdoc> camerongray: ....
[07:11]<@BC_Programming> heh
[07:12]<+camerongray> MikroTik FTW! :D
[07:15]<+pottsi> lol
[07:16]<+pottsi> http://hakshop.myshopify.com/collections/wifi-pineapple/products/wifi-pineapple my christmas present :D
[07:17]<@BC_Programming> I Was expecting it to be shaped like a pineapple
[07:17]<+pottsi> xD
[07:17]<@BC_Programming> "For that special someone who wants to try to shove everything in their butt, get them this pineapple router"
[07:17]<@BC_Programming> and I do mean "special" of course
[07:17]<+pottsi> lol
[07:17]<+camerongray> lol, nice!
[07:18]<@BC_Programming> it is not nice, the urge to shove things in their butt severely affects their day to day lives
[07:18]<@BC_Programming> oh you meant the router
[07:18]<+pottsi> now where did i put that cucumber
[07:19]<@BC_Programming> Even vegetables aren't safe
[07:19]<+pottsi> :x
[07:20]<+pottsi> no word of a lie i was doing my shopping this fat gut in front of me at the check out bought vaseline cucumber and durex
[07:20]<+pottsi> wonder what the fuck he was up to that night
[07:20]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[07:20]<@BC_Programming> Can't help but feel sorry for those cucumber. They get put in the trolley and taken home "Oh, I wonder if I'll be in a sala... OH GOD WHAT ARE YOU DOING"
[07:21]<+camerongray> tehehe
[07:21]<+pottsi> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIXX0c01kCA
[07:21]<+pottsi> ^
[07:23]<+camerongray> lol!
[08:21]<jamer> Lol
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Session Start: Sun Dec 22 08:34:22 2013
Session Ident: #glitchpc
[08:34] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[08:34] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[08:35]<BC_Programming> wtf is going on... netsplit?
[08:35]<jamer> Not a netsplit
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[08:35]<jamer> Services are all down
[08:39]<jamer> Hm
[08:41]<BC_Programming> thanks Obama
[08:41]<PCdoc> ^ lool
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[08:51]<BC_Programming> haha my survivalchests mod is hilarious
[08:51]<BC_Programming> I was just killed by a zombie that had a magma slime face
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[11:34]<Craig-Work> Hey Jacky, don't leave too quick,
[11:34]<Craig-Work> :P
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[11:34]<Craig-Work> :P
[11:34]<@jacky> that was my slow leave
[11:34]<@jacky> heheeh
[11:35]<Craig-Work> Ahh :P
[11:35]<Craig-Work> Ummm, now what was I going to ask you...
[11:35]<Craig-Work> Oh Yeah
[11:35]<@jacky> to not leave too quick?
[11:35]<@jacky> heh
[11:36]<Craig-Work> No one whats to make that plugin for JupiterStation(The bot) so that it can read a callendar, and then post the current or soon to air show.
[11:36]<camerongray> Hey jacky
[11:36]<Craig-Work> sorry not whats, wants*
[11:36]<@jacky> camerongray: Hello
[11:37]<@jacky> Craig-Work: (dredging through my memory) that was something that I suggested that you try the forum for?
[11:37]<@jacky> some time ago?
[11:38]<Craig-Work> Yeah
[11:38]<Craig-Work> :P
[11:38]<Craig-Work> sorry this is the first time I have had to get back to it :p
[11:38]<@jacky> oh.. nothing to be sorry about
[11:38]<@jacky> I'm just trying to remember what we talked about
[11:38]<@jacky> hehe
[11:39]<Craig-Work> :P
[11:39]<@jacky> I think it was something that was beyond me
[11:39]<Craig-Work> possibly
[11:39]<@jacky> maybe it was sqlite or something?
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[11:39]<@jacky> pottsi: Hello
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[11:40]<Craig-Work> not sure
[11:40]<@jacky> me either
[11:40]<@jacky> got the link handy? to your post in the forum?
[11:42]<Craig-Work> Sorry no,
[11:42]<@jacky> np
[11:42]<@jacky> was just going to check on it
[11:42]<@jacky> looking for inspiration, for another idea for you to try....
[11:43]<@jacky> do you remember the username you used, on the forum?
[11:45]<@jacky>
[11:45]<@jacky> http://forum.egghelp.org/viewtopic.php?t=19428&highlight=
[11:45]<@jacky>
[11:55]<Craig-Work> cengbrecht, as always I am sure, :P
[11:56]<@jacky> see above link
[11:56]<@jacky> :)
[11:56]<Craig-Work> I did thanks. :P
[11:56]<@jacky> I thought of somebody, and he is online, but not active
[11:56]<@jacky> I just left him a pm, explaining, and asking
[11:56]<Craig-Work> Cool,
[11:56]<@jacky> probably within a day or so, he will respond
[11:56]<@jacky> hopefully
[11:56]<Craig-Work> Ever heard of the one guy that did reply?
[11:56]<@jacky> he can be 'difficult'
[11:57]<@jacky> brb.. let me check the thread again
[11:57]<@jacky> sunkast ? No
[11:57]<@jacky> notice he has 1 post?
[11:57]<Craig-Work> Yeah :p
[11:57]<@jacky> just reading yours probably motivated him to register and post in your thread
[11:57]<Craig-Work> Possibly. :P
[11:58]<Craig-Work> There was a guy that responded, but I don't remember his name, and he was thinking easy money, so I turned him down. I was not doing this for money, but as a reward for helping.
[11:58]<@jacky> is his response in a PM on the forum, to you?
[11:58]<Craig-Work> yeah
[11:59]<@jacky> just wondering if it is the same person I just pm'd on IRC!
[11:59]<@jacky> heheh
[11:59]<@jacky> go into your messages there
[11:59]<Craig-Work> :P that would be funny
[11:59]<@jacky> if you didn't purposely delete it, it is still there
[11:59]<Craig-Work> I looked, I think I was frustrated with him,
[11:59]<Craig-Work> I deleted all my old messages... :(
[11:59]<@jacky> ah well...
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[12:09]<jamer> Sold my old psu :D
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[12:27]<jamer> Its quiet ... too quiet
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[12:38]<@jacky> azalea: Hello
[12:39]<azalea> hi hi :)
[12:39]<@jacky> and... it is rather quiet here, now
[12:39]<azalea> it happens
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