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[04:15]<@BC_Programming> hmm one of those magic reboots that fixes things it shouldn't
[04:20]<jamer> O. O
[04:21]<@BC_Programming> network adapter refused to work. It's USB so I unplugged it, plugged it in.. disabled it in device manager, enabled it, etc. and it would connect and "work" but I couldn't actually use the internet
[04:22]<+camerongray> ahh
[04:22]<@BC_Programming> Gave up and rebooted since I had a crapload of updates and a chkdsk /f I wanted to do
[04:22]<+camerongray> I hate USB WiFi adapters :P
[04:22]<@BC_Programming> Of course the chkdsk /f took nearly 45 minutes, which is worrying
[04:23]<@BC_Programming> and it didn't actually install any updates if the "There are updates available etc." balloon at startup is any indication
[04:23]<@BC_Programming> But the conncetion works again
[04:23]<@BC_Programming> to be fair the uptime was going on a month anyway so it's not like I have to restart it everyday
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[04:43]<@BC_Programming> oooh right today is a stat holiday
[04:46]<jamer> BC_Programming i shut down my desktop each night
[04:46]<@BC_Programming> congratulations
[04:47]<jamer> A:because of noise and B: it would make my room hot
[04:51]<+camerongray> For me it's just the power consumption
[04:52]<+camerongray> Server and networking stuff is always on though
[04:53]<PCdoc> lol
[05:02]<+camerongray> Had to run my new server overnight to rebuild the RAID array - That thing is loud!
[05:04]<+camerongray> Even then, I'm used to sleeping with loud noises and flashing lights so it doesn't really bother me
[05:08]<+camerongray> Almost helps me sleep since it's a white noise
[05:08]<@BC_Programming> I know have Season 3 of My Little Pony downloaded in 1080p
[05:08]<@BC_Programming> now*
[05:08]<+camerongray> lol
[05:09]<@BC_Programming> my TNG is kinda low res come to think of it
[05:09]<+camerongray> I need to get "Fawlty Towers" and "Some Mothers Do 'Ave Em" on my HTPC - Currently have them on DVD and VHS respectively
[05:09]<+camerongray> They are so old, but so funny :P
[05:10]<@BC_Programming> Whatever you do don't talk about the war
[05:10]<+camerongray> Especially since I am basically Frank from "Some Mothers Do 'Ave Em"
[05:10]<+camerongray> If you've never seen them, you should!
[05:10]<+camerongray> haha!
[05:11]<+camerongray> Not seen them in ages
[05:11]<@BC_Programming> Siberian Hamster
[05:11]<+camerongray> haha - Funny fact actually, guess what one of my first pet rats was called :D
[05:12]<@BC_Programming> Basil
[05:12]<+camerongray> yep!
[05:13]<+camerongray> Not seen Some Mothers Do 'Ave Em in years actually - Can't even remember the last time I used a VHS player
[05:13]<+camerongray> Don't even have one now
[05:13]<+camerongray> I need to digitize all my old stuff - Like all the 8mm tapes of me when I was young
[05:13]<@BC_Programming> hmm so there are higher resolutions available for TNG... hmm
[05:13]<+camerongray> Like when I pulled the christmas tree over
[05:13]<@BC_Programming> but I don't have enough disk space
[05:14]<@BC_Programming> clearly this is a reason to get a new hard drive
[05:14]<+camerongray> lol
[05:14]<@BC_Programming> I mean the fact that both of mine are slowly failing, and would take all my data with them apparently isn't enough reason- but there are higher resolution downloads for Star Trek? Time to upgrade
[05:15]<+camerongray> I remember my mum converting all the camcorder tapes to VHS so they would be usable in the future :P
[05:15]<@BC_Programming> lol
[05:15]<@BC_Programming> what were the old tapes? proprietary?
[05:15]<+camerongray> Video 8
[05:15]<+camerongray> Then Hi-8 on the later ones
[05:16]<+camerongray> Some classics - All my old christmases/birthdays :P
[05:16]<@BC_Programming> I fixed a bunch of games yesterday. It took too long to try to obvious but in my defense the "compatibility mode" settings don't usually work
[05:16]<@BC_Programming> I do like how I'll spend two hours trying to get a game to work and then play it for 10 minutes
[05:17]<+camerongray> And the time my dad filmed me pretending to drive his car and I managed to release the handbrake
[05:17]<+camerongray> Ahh... good times
[05:17]<+camerongray> Get an SSD too
[05:18]<@BC_Programming> I'm transferring 200 to paypal now, will transfer more on thurs. as well
[05:18]<@BC_Programming> this time I chose the right account too
[05:20]<@BC_Programming> Haskell is a good language but this Article is possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read
[05:20]<@BC_Programming> http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/11/stop-wasting-billions-of-dollars-using-the-wrong-software-languages/
[05:21]<+camerongray> Sounds like loads of people at ui
[05:21]<+camerongray> uni*
[05:21]<+camerongray> "Why are you using PHP"
[05:21]<+camerongray> "You should build that web app using Python"
[05:22]<@BC_Programming> It basically says that every single problem with the software industry hinges on the choice of programming language.... which is stupid. But add on to this that it's essentially saying, "you know what will fix your problem? Stop using those languages that have several decades of skill and experience put into them working for businesses and in the real-world, and instead, use this language
[05:22]<@BC_Programming> that has only successfully penetrated academia, and therefore is completely ignorant of what software actually needs in the real world as opposed to in the classroom"
[05:23]<@BC_Programming> I mean Functional Programming is fine but if I need to solve a problem whether I am using Pure functions is the least of my concerns
[05:24]<@BC_Programming> I like how none of the claims have any actual citations or information, it's almost hilarious
[05:24]<+camerongray> Yeah
[05:25]<+camerongray> You can tell the different people at uni - Those who love all the academic stuff and those (like me) who like real world stuff
[05:25]<+camerongray> The academic ones are the ones that tell you to use languages because they are 'better' or 'have x feature'
[05:26]<+camerongray> Whereas we are more "We have 24 hours to build a web app, lets use PHP with an MVC framework"
[05:27]<+camerongray> The others were more "We have 24 hours to build a web app, C is the best language so lets use C"
[05:27]<+camerongray> And at the 24 hour hackathon - Guess which group had an almost-complete project and which team sheepishly demonstrated a javascript animation in a local HTML file then mumbled that their backend didn't work
[05:28]<@BC_Programming> 23 hours in for them was "well, we almost have a working HTTP transfer handler"
[05:29]<+camerongray> lol!
[05:30]<@BC_Programming> random question what is the attribute to make a link nofollow in the <a> tag
[05:31]<+camerongray> rel I thnk
[05:31]<+camerongray> think*
[05:32]<PCdoc> What should be the value of a second hand Compaq c700 laptop with c2d processor. 1.8GHZ, 2GB RAM, 160GB HDD ?
[05:33]<@BC_Programming> you know if you keep asking us for stuff like that you are going to have to start giving us a cut
[05:33]<PCdoc> and webcam
[05:33]<+camerongray> No idea on prices where you are :P
[05:33]<PCdoc> lol yeah sure .. if I have high margins :P
[05:33]<PCdoc> I am sure I do have :D
[05:33]<+camerongray> You can check eBay "completed listings" to see what they sell for
[05:34]<+camerongray> Would probably sell here for around £90-£100 - But used PCs don't sell for much here
[05:34]<PCdoc> I was hoping 15k indian rupees
[05:34]<PCdoc> <3
[05:34]<@BC_Programming> Customer Says "Hey, PCDoc, is the 9800GT a good card?" Then PCDoc "Hey Calum is the 9800GT a good card?" And Calum says "yeah" and PCDoc tells the customer "yeah it is" and the customer is like "Good thing I have somebody who knows this stuff"
[05:35]<+camerongray> lol
[05:35]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: grrrrr
[05:35]<+camerongray> Calum would say "yeah" :P
[05:35]<+camerongray> Here you can easily get a brand new laptop for under £300
[05:36]<+camerongray> My flatmate's dad gave him his old desktop - Pretty nice gaming PC (Even though it's Packard Bell) - Core 2 Quad Q8200, 650ti
[05:36]<@BC_Programming> 'old desktop' has the same processor as me
[05:36]<@BC_Programming> now I'm sad
[05:36]<+camerongray> lol
[05:37]<+camerongray> Turns out that this "gaming" PC oringinally came with a GeForce 130!
[05:37]<+camerongray> Pretty nice now with the new GPU
[05:37]<@BC_Programming> was that on-board
[05:37]<+camerongray> Nope, card :P
[05:38]<@BC_Programming> based on the 9500GT it would appear
[05:38]<+camerongray> Ahh
[05:39]<+camerongray> The 650ti is pretty nice though
[05:39]<PCdoc> A customer came with a laptop yesterday with a screen problem. He said another very well known local repair shop charged him 2k for replacing AMD chipset. I open the laptop to find the chipset is un-touched. FOOLED!!
[05:39]<+camerongray> lol
[05:39]<@BC_Programming> how would you even replace a chipset? Nobody would do that
[05:39]<+camerongray> Yeah
[05:39]<PCdoc> They replace it using those BGA machines
[05:39]<+camerongray> I scrap the board if any BGA parts have failed
[05:39]<@BC_Programming> cheaper after all to replace the motherboard I would imagine
[05:40]<+camerongray> Ahh, I'd just scrap the board :P
[05:40]<@BC_Programming> ATI/AMD and Nvidia have really gone to town trying to make their naming as confusing as possible
[05:40]<+camerongray> Most work I ever do with boards is replacing bits like connectors
[05:40]<PCdoc> no, motherboards which are available are actually refurbished and are of the series. Like if the laptop is dell N5010, then the board is of N5000 series with many port missing
[05:40]<+camerongray> Maybe capacitors at a push
[05:41]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: The NVIDIA stuff is pretty simple IMO
[05:41]<+camerongray> Just need to forget the old system
[05:42]<PCdoc> http://images03.olx.in/ui/4/12/88/1266914281_75780488_1-BGA-REWORK-STATION-wwwbgareworkstationnet.jpg
[05:42]<PCdoc> this is the reworg station they usually have
[05:42]<PCdoc> costs like 2-3 lacs
[05:42]<+camerongray> Yeah, I don't bother with anything like that :P
[05:42]<PCdoc> rework*
[05:42]<+camerongray> Even trying to get new BGA parts at a reasonable price is hard
[05:42]<PCdoc> Many people have it but don't have anyone who really knows how to use it. Just sits there like show off
[05:43]<@BC_Programming> Geforce 100 series is based on the 9500GT, the 9500GT however is not ot be considered better than the 8800GTS, don't be silly. the 8800 GTS is better than the 9500GT, but the 9800GTX+ is better tha nthe 8800GTS, but not better than a GTX680
[05:43]<+camerongray> lol
[05:43]<+camerongray> Just forget all the old series (4 digit ones)
[05:43]<@BC_Programming> but they still exist
[05:43]<+camerongray> Can't really buy them now
[05:44]<PCdoc> I have an 8x AGP card lol
[05:44]<@BC_Programming> I'm still 100% sure they are purposely tossing up their names to confuse people
[05:44]<PCdoc> My home comp I think has a port for it.
[05:44]<+camerongray> lol
[05:44]<PCdoc> slot*
[05:44]<+camerongray> Everything that people use here is pretty new now
[05:45]<@BC_Programming> I've noticed the ones with the fanciest names are usually the crappiest
[05:45]<+camerongray> Seeing a P4 is rare
[05:45]<PCdoc> Its common in here camerongray
[05:45]<+camerongray> Yeah
[05:45]<PCdoc> people who can't afford new comp go for second hand used P4
[05:45]<@BC_Programming> same with Sound cards and stuff though
[05:45]<+camerongray> Like at work, we have one P4 but it's rarely used
[05:45]<@BC_Programming> "Sound Blaster Audigy SE" is not an Audigy at all... LIES
[05:45]<+camerongray> Oldest one in use is a Core 2 Duo - Most desktops are first gen i5/i7
[05:46]<+camerongray> Mine is an i7 870 :P
[05:46]<PCdoc> rich guy! :P
[05:46]<+camerongray> lol, this is at work :P
[05:46]<PCdoc> I have built my office comp from scrap :P
[05:46]<@BC_Programming> I still have my Dimension 4400, I think it has XP installed unless I removed the hard drive
[05:46]<+camerongray> Here it's not really a case that people can't afford better than a P4, they are just stubborn and don't like change
[05:47]<@BC_Programming> if I had a second monitor I could set that up too... though for what purpose I do not know
[05:47]<+camerongray> Could buy a second hand C2D desktop for < £40
[05:47]<PCdoc> I have two C2D processors (used) with mobo's lying around
[05:48]<+camerongray> nice
[05:48]<+camerongray> Isn't that better than your home desktop then?
[05:48]<@BC_Programming> getting my Updater to update itself was... interesting
[05:48]<PCdoc> I was actually a bit happy when I saw that graphics card coming into second hand inventory. But was sad when I checked and found it was bad :(
[05:49]<@BC_Programming> first it has to detect when an update is to itself, and make sure it installs last, then it has to perform special handling so that it renames it's own executable file, runs the installer, and then launches the original filename when that installer finishes before it exits...
[05:49]<+camerongray> We have a few old P4 servers at work we just took out of service - noone will buy them nowadays
[05:49]<PCdoc> P4 servers ?!
[05:49]<+camerongray> Yeah
[05:49]<PCdoc> You mean you are not using them?!
[05:49]<+camerongray> Well, two are old dell towers used as servers, one was a rackmount unit
[05:50]<+camerongray> Yeah, they have been sitting in the corner, no idea what to do with them :P
[05:50]<@BC_Programming> lamps!
[05:50]<+camerongray> haha
[05:50]<PCdoc> Here we have pople who buy old scrap unwanted computer junk in bulk from companies.
[05:50]<+camerongray> Ahh
[05:50]<@BC_Programming> Wait a minute, how can you use a P4 as a server, you MUST use a XEON!
[05:50]<PCdoc> people *
[05:51]<+camerongray> haaha!
[05:51]<+camerongray> Oh, he'd love me, my new server has a Xeon E3-1220
[05:51]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: Thats why I asked 'you are not using them?' I mean having P4 as aserver and core i7 on client side :-s
[05:51]<+camerongray> And yes DB, it's a server - not a 'server'
[05:51]<PCdoc> weird !!
[05:51]<+camerongray> We used them until a couple of months ago
[05:52]<+camerongray> Actually, our dev servers are P4HT
[05:52]<+camerongray> One ran the VoIP system
[05:53]<+camerongray> Most of our servers are less powerul than the desktops - That's usually how it goes
[05:54]<+camerongray> The desktops get a lot of heavy use, servers sit threre runnign scripts, serving files and running the phone system
[05:54]<+camerongray> The best ones we have have 2x Xeon L5420 (Quad core x2), 24gb RAM and 250gb Intel SSD - 2 of those machines
[05:55]<+camerongray> But that's because they have to run a very complex system to crunch massive ammounts of data and build up reports
[05:56]<@BC_Programming> I like watching really old computer chronicles videos
[05:56]<PCdoc> One of my silly things while repairing>> was trying to pull off an old P3 processor from a customer's comp. He just wanted to try on it if it works else he wanted to scrap it. I tried pulling the heatsink out but the processor socket broke
[05:57]<PCdoc> Guess what I would have done trying to fix it??
[05:57]<+camerongray> Wait, P3s are still in use?
[05:57]<PCdoc> I used a strong addhesive to fix the socket. It went inside the socket pins and the processor refused to come out
[05:58]<+camerongray> lol
[05:58]<+camerongray> I know of one P3 that's till in use - And that runs the system at the local Laserquest
[05:58]<PCdoc> camerongray: there are some people like you said 'stubborn'
[05:58]<@BC_Programming> the line between "Stubborn" and "stupid" is a fine one
[05:58]<+camerongray> lol
[05:59]<+camerongray> Even my 79 year old granny is now on an Ivy Bridge Pentium with an SSD :P
[05:59]<@BC_Programming> I figured out why so many artists are insane
[05:59]<PCdoc> They will spend to buy new laptop, but won't change there minds for a good decent desktop
[05:59]<PCdoc> insist on repairing the P3 till it finally dies
[05:59]<+camerongray> lol
[05:59]<@BC_Programming> The "definition of insanity" is doing the same thing more than once expecting different results. But when two people view the same subject and make two different results it's called "art"
[06:00]<+camerongray> I've never seen a P3 apart from that one at laserquest in years
[06:00]<+camerongray> And they are probably stuck on that as to upgrade they would need to replace the software and a lot of the hardware
[06:00]<+camerongray> Pretty sure the guns interface with it over serial
[06:00]<PCdoc> lot of hardware?? almost all
[06:00]<+camerongray> Yeah
[06:00]<PCdoc> SD RAM
[06:01]<PCdoc> no DDR1 slot
[06:01]<+camerongray> Nah, meaning the propritery laserquest stuff if they replaced the machine
[06:01]<PCdoc> aah
[06:01]<+camerongray> It's on Windows 95 so the software would need replaced (v1.0)
[06:01]<@BC_Programming> oh here's something funny at the meeting
[06:02]<+camerongray> They are desperately trying to keep it alive - Last time I was there they had a desk fan blowing into the side of it
[06:02]<PCdoc> That reminds me, yesterday I was hunti for a windows 3.1 or 3.0 setup to run on virtual machine. Just thought of browsing through that old interface :D
[06:02]<+camerongray> lol, I have a 486 machine for that :P
[06:02]<@BC_Programming> we needed graphics and basically it was asked if any of us were OK with photoshop, I said I was and he just said "I've seen your website, you're not"
[06:02]<@BC_Programming> and I said
[06:02]<@BC_Programming> "Still better than your website"
[06:02]<@BC_Programming> "I don't have one"
[06:02]<+camerongray> haha!
[06:02]<@BC_Programming> "My point exactly"
[06:03]<PCdoc> hahahaha
[06:03]<@BC_Programming> funny thing is most of the graphics on my main landing page are just made in a few minutes
[06:03]<@BC_Programming> it's my Pony wallpapers that actually took time but... well, let's not be sharing that
[06:04]<PCdoc> My business website is hosted on google sites. Could not afford a hosting. Website I would have made myself in dreamviewer but hosting were costly
[06:05]<@BC_Programming> my hosting costs 2.99
[06:05]<PCdoc> And now I think google has made google sites paid. Who ever had free ones stays. Now you cannot create a free website.
[06:05]<PCdoc> 2.99? dollars / pounds?
[06:06]<@BC_Programming> USD I think
[06:06]<PCdoc> must be per month then
[06:06]<@BC_Programming> yes
[06:07]<PCdoc> Is it windows or linux?
[06:08]<PCdoc> Linux!
[06:08]<PCdoc> php
[06:08]<@BC_Programming> LAMP presumably. Not sure why the OS would matter much.
[06:09]<PCdoc> I don't know about others but, here windows is costlier than linux.
[06:10]<PCdoc> Even if plain html website are required, they advice linux
[06:10]<@BC_Programming> it's for web hosting. I have FTP access and access to the cpanel, it's not a VPS
[06:10]<@BC_Programming> who are "they"?
[06:11]<PCdoc> webhost, If you ask them or you are not sure which one to go for
[06:12]<@BC_Programming> well if you aren't sure which one to go for than obviously it doesn't matter to you and you would go with the accepted standard LAMP server which is obviously cheaper
[06:12]<@BC_Programming> unless you KNOW you need Azure or ASP.NET or something, in which case you would already know you need IIS and Windows
[06:14]<+camerongray> Yeah, unless you need ASP (which you likely don't) just go with Linux
[06:14]<@BC_Programming> Actually wait a second Azure is like, a cloud server or something
[06:14]<+camerongray> ALL my sites run on Linux
[06:14]<PCdoc> And if I have plans in the future to install a cms on my hosting. Then I should go for Linux?
[06:15]<@BC_Programming> "A CMS" is a bit inspecific
[06:15]<+camerongray> CMS is probably PHP, in that case Linux is ideal
[06:15]<PCdoc> Like vbulletin forums or something like joomla or drupal
[06:16]<@BC_Programming> It doesn't matter which you would go with, there are CMS for both PHP and ASP.NET.
[06:16]<PCdoc> Yes it is PHP
[06:16]<@BC_Programming> You should go with Linux because you obviously don't need Windows
[06:16]<@BC_Programming> If you needed it, you would already know
[06:16]<+camerongray> yeah
[06:17]<PCdoc> hmm
[06:18]<+camerongray> But I'd use a CMS from the start
[06:19]<+camerongray> I'm a big fan of Drupal, hate Joomla :P
[06:20]<+camerongray> PHP CMSs are designed for Apache, PHP on IIS (windows) isn't great
[06:20]<PCdoc> camerongray: some on like you or BC_Programming can even code there own :P
[06:20]<+camerongray> I am working on my own :P
[06:21]<+camerongray> I use drupal for big sites, my own for smaller ones
[06:24]<+camerongray> wouldn't even think of using dreamweaver/static files
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[07:47]<PCdoc> ok ?
[07:47]<PCdoc> camerongray: !!
[07:47]<+camerongray> What?
[07:51]<PCdoc> lol ChanbotVII is funny hehe
[07:52]<@jacky> (camerongray made me do it)
[07:52]<@jacky> <g>
[07:53]<+camerongray> lol, hey jacky
[07:53]<@jacky> camerongray: Hello
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[10:57]<@BC_Programming> I managed to resuscitate my MP3 player
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[13:22]<@BC_Programming> my Updater component went live on a few sites today and aside from things we/I had already had planned to add in there have been no problems :D
[13:23]<@Calum> awesome
[13:23]<+camerongray> Hey Calum
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[13:23]<@Calum> hey camerongray
[13:23]<+camerongray> And WonderWoman
[13:23]<jamer> Brb
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[13:24]<@BC_Programming> By sites I mean, like physical places/marinas and not websites or something
[13:24]<@BC_Programming> it was pretty funny to watch the demo video of a few of the things we have in the works
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[13:24]<@BC_Programming> the only thing that worked flawlessly was the updater, mwa haha
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[13:25]<WonderWoman> camerongrey
[13:25]<WonderWoman> gray
[13:25]<WonderWoman> even
[13:25]<+camerongray> lol
[13:25]<jamer> Lol
[13:25]<@BC_Programming> not as bad as "Mulready"
[13:26]<WonderWoman> Lol.
[13:26]<@BC_Programming> though I like that typo since it sounds like a brand of batteries
[13:26]<@Calum> hah yeah, Mulready
[13:26]<+camerongray> hah
[13:26]<WonderWoman> I've heard the crazy shit.... it's so lol.
[13:26]<@Mulreay> OK that's enough of that :p
[13:26]<@BC_Programming> ok Mulready
[13:26]<@Calum> BBC_Programmer
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[13:26]<@Mulready> fine
[13:26]<+camerongray> haha
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> as BBC_Programmer You will watch whatever I schedule!
[13:27]<@Mulready> lol
[13:27] * Mulready is now known as Mulreay
[13:27]<@Calum> I don't have a TV...
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> why do you have to be so difficult
[13:27]<+camerongray> I do, it makes me want to tear my eyes out sometimes
[13:28]<WonderWoman> the foxs are at it again calum.
[13:28]<@Calum> yes I don't like foxes
[13:28]<@Calum> as your mum says
[13:28]<@Calum> yeah TV is awful
[13:28]<@BC_Programming> is that what she says?
[13:28]<@Calum> she says she doesn't like foxes
[13:29]<WonderWoman> My mum said something on a status calum wrote.
[13:29]<WonderWoman> and all she said was "yes i don't like foxs"
[13:29]<@BC_Programming> Deer are stupid also
[13:29]<+camerongray> "Did you sleep with my sister?" stuff on Jeremy Kyle, XFactor, "16 and pregnant" .etc
[13:30]<WonderWoman> OMG. Jeremy Kyle!! oh he makes me lol.
[13:30]<+camerongray> Yeah
[13:30]<WonderWoman> Teen mom.
[13:30]<@BC_Programming> My uncle was driving and saw a deer and stopped like just before actually hitting it and the deer apparently tried to commit insurance fraud because it jumped into the car and rolled off like it got hit
[13:30]<@Calum> haha
[13:30]<WonderWoman> When i am at work all they watch is Jeremy Kyle
[13:30]<+camerongray> If Jeremy Kyle is on I genearlly have to move anything throwable out of reaach
[13:30]<WonderWoman> and repeat
[13:30]<+camerongray> Soldering iron almost got stabbed through the TV at one point
[13:31]<@BC_Programming> don't stab the messenger
[13:31]<WonderWoman> As soon as they soaps start when i am at work i head into the kitchen and cook or clean or something
[13:31]<+camerongray> lol!
[13:31]<@BC_Programming> I tried that once and they stopped delivering my parcels
[13:31]<+camerongray> Then again - "You've Been Framed" is on at the moment so I'm happy
[13:31]<WonderWoman> That's even worse cameron...
[13:31]<+camerongray> lol
[13:31]<+camerongray> It's more my level
[13:32]<@BC_Programming> is that the exciting show where they take pictures of people and then spend an hour designing a picture frame?
[13:32]<+camerongray> haha - Funny home videos
[13:32]<WonderWoman> Lol.
[13:32]<WonderWoman> Whats your kind of level....
[13:32]<@BC_Programming> oh so it's like America's Funniest Home videos but might actually make people laugh
[13:32]<@Calum> you've been framed is funny, what are you on about cassie?
[13:32]<@Calum> yeah exactly
[13:32]<+camerongray> Yeah
[13:32]<WonderWoman> Seriously.... it does not make me larff
[13:32]<+camerongray> Harry Hill is really good IMO
[13:32]<@Calum> indeed
[13:32]<@Calum> Harry Hill is awesome
[13:32]<@BC_Programming> just so long as it doesn't have stupid voice overs
[13:32]<@Calum> I have an uncle that looks like him
[13:32]<WonderWoman> stupid children falling in there soup...
[13:33]<WonderWoman> so funny
[13:33]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: Ahh, it does
[13:33]<@Calum> *their
[13:33]<@BC_Programming> "Oh I'm a dog, I wonder if I'll put this hat on my owner's head... Oh golly I sure did!"
[13:33]<WonderWoman> Ohhhhhh
[13:33]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: But the voiceovers are funny - He makes up funny scenarios for the clips
[13:33]<WonderWoman> grammar police!!
[13:34]<@Calum> /mode #glitchpc +b ~q:wonderwoman
[13:34]<@Calum> fail
[13:34]<@Calum> I am terrible at IRC
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[13:34]<+camerongray> lol!
[13:35]<@Calum> let's pretend that never happened
[13:35]<WonderWoman> I like harry hill btw.
[13:35]<+camerongray> Wow - It's been going since 1991!
[13:35]<WonderWoman> 1 year before i was born!!!
[13:35]<@Calum> that's crazy
[13:35]<Immental1200> Erm.
[13:35]<Immental1200> Well done Calum ;P
[13:35]<@Calum> I know right
[13:36]<+camerongray> I remember it used to be on at 6pm on Saturday - Used to sit at my grandparents' house and watch it
[13:36]<@BC_Programming> I feel old now
[13:36]<@Calum> you are
[13:36]<+camerongray> Yeah :P
[13:36]<@BC_Programming> at least I can always point to Jacky, now he's old something fierce
[13:36]<+camerongray> 3 yeard before I was born :P
[13:36]<+camerongray> haha
[13:36]<+camerongray> years*
[13:36]<@Calum> hah he is
[13:36]<WonderWoman> Haha, what was that program on a Saturday about dating...
[13:37]<+camerongray> No idea, didn't watch that one :P
[13:37]<@Calum> you're way too young camerongray
[13:37]<WonderWoman> Blind date?
[13:37]<@Calum> I remember you being like 15 or 16 when you started coming here
[13:37]<WonderWoman> Cila Black.
[13:37]<+camerongray> Oh, and scrapheap challenge and robot wars - Used to watch all that at my grandparents
[13:37]<@Calum> and that makes me feel old
[13:37]<+camerongray> Yeah
[13:37]<@Calum> ah yeah scrapheap challenge and robot wars were awesome!
[13:37]<@Calum> and there was that robot olympics one as well?
[13:37]<WonderWoman> I liked robot wars.
[13:38]<+camerongray> Would have been 2009 I started coming
[13:38]<+camerongray> So yeah, 15
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> whenever I feel socially awkward I can always count on reddit to make me feel better
[13:38]<Immental1200> I've never actually watched Harry Hill properly, only seen like 10 minutes or so of it at once.
[13:38]<WonderWoman> Did you ever see are you afraid of the dark?
[13:38]<Immental1200> Scapheap challenge still goes at the weekends on Channel 4 I think
[13:38]<+camerongray> Immental1200: Then put on ITV2 right now :P
[13:38]<+camerongray> hehe - Fat person broke a car park barier
[13:39]<Immental1200> That involves finding my areial cable.
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> Canadian Thanksgiving today...
[13:39]<+camerongray> Then that person drove a quadbike into a bush
[13:39]<Immental1200> Unless I can watch on the web
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> Windows 8 knows it it's on the ball
[13:39]<+camerongray> !g TVCatchup
[13:39]<+camerongray> Should get it there
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> it was all "Tomorrow is thanksgiving Day" yesterday and I was like "Woah, this will revolutionize computing"
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> it's sort of like how Facebook always tells you when it's somebody's birthday so it doesn't really 'count' when you 'remember'
[13:40]<+camerongray> Yeah
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> then you get people that you added two years ago that you haven't talked to acting like they even know it
[13:40]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, crulest thing to ever do if someone's PC is left unlocked - Change their birthday on Facebook
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> to the next week
[13:41]<+camerongray> Yeah
[13:41]<Immental1200> Erm. ITV2. Supposedly you've been framed?
[13:41]<WonderWoman> So did anyone see the debate about calling your children fat...? Katie Hopkins makes me larf
[13:41]<@Calum> one of my friends had about 6 birthdays one year thanks to getting fraped at work all the time
[13:42]<Immental1200> Best I've seen is changing sexuality and marrying a guy (if they were a guy) within 5 minutes. Those are amusing to see.
[13:42]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[13:42]<Immental1200> Although that's obvious it's been changed because you get comments
[13:42]<@BC_Programming> make them marry a g uy, move to san franscisco, and somehow also become a born-again Christian at the same time
[13:42]<Immental1200> YES
[13:42]<+camerongray> At work we've figured out the IPs for the different office's music servers - We can control their music whenver we want!
[13:42]<Immental1200> So doing that next time I find a facebook
[13:43]<Immental1200> left open.
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> copy paste some tripe from somebody raging about Homosexuals being the cause of the apocalypse, then 10 minutes later announce their plans to marry their new partner
[13:43]<+camerongray> MD had to tell a client he was on the phone with that the window was open and a car had gone past as ABBA started blaring out at full volume
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> people would be like "wtf"
[13:44]<@Calum> I got suspended from college over a frape...
[13:44]<+camerongray> wow!
[13:44]<@Calum> wasn't even me that did it
[13:44]<+camerongray> hehe
[13:44]<@Calum> I was just there when it happened heh
[13:44]<+camerongray> Then there was the time we filled the office with 99 red balloons
[13:45]<WonderWoman> lol
[13:45]<+camerongray> Got up early, connected to the VPN and started the song on a loop for people coming in
[13:45]<Immental1200> What's weird is that the music server isn't protected.
[13:45]<+camerongray> No way to do it
[13:45]<+camerongray> Only accessible over LAN/VPN though
[13:46]<@BC_Programming> reddit's dating subreddit is HILARIOUS
[13:46]<Immental1200> Why no way to do it?
[13:46]<Immental1200> What're they using
[13:46]<@BC_Programming> "looking for a woman who enjoys Warhammer 40K" I mean HAHAHA
[13:46]<+camerongray> Logitech Squeezebox
[13:46]<@Calum> hah
[13:46]<+camerongray> Even then, protecting it wouldn't stop us, we have root :P
[13:46]<Immental1200> Well, if you have root yeah.
[13:47]<+camerongray> Then there was the time, for some reason, one of the guys put the Spice Girls on - One of the guys sat at his desk singing along (hand movements and everything) - Then noticed we were all staring at him
[13:47]<+camerongray> We don't get much work done
[13:48]<@BC_Programming> I would do that with MLP music
[13:48]<Immental1200> Justin Bieber would probably be a good choice
[13:48]<Immental1200> Because everyone loves him
[13:48]<@BC_Programming> I'd even sing the MLP song where I would be singing about my wedding dress because it would be downright hilarious
[13:49]<+camerongray> haha
[13:49]<+camerongray> We're used to it - He runs the North Berwick Pantomime :P
[13:50]<+camerongray> Then again, we need more stupid eBay purchases, not had many recently
[13:50]<@Calum> stupid ebay purchases are needed, I agree
[13:50]<Immental1200> What's the best you've bought.
[13:50]<+camerongray> I can't even remember half of them
[13:50]<@Calum> did you buy that server btw?
[13:50]<+camerongray> Taxidermied Squirrels :P
[13:51]<+camerongray> Calum: Yeah, it's awesome!
[13:51]<@Calum> hah, of course you did
[13:51]<Immental1200> You bought
[13:51]<Immental1200> Taxidermied squirrels
[13:51]<Immental1200> Seriously?!
[13:51]<+camerongray> Wasn't me :P
[13:51]<Immental1200> Who was it?
[13:52]<+camerongray> Yes! https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/256487_515734028453742_2132806906_o.jpg
[13:52]<@BC_Programming> "We must escape before it's too late, find a way to save the day, Hope? I'd be lying if I say- that I don't fear that I may lose him, to one who wants to use him, not care for, love and cherish him each day"
[13:52]<@BC_Programming> manly lyrics
[13:52]<Immental1200> Jesus.
[13:52]<Immental1200> I want the one in a hat.
[13:52]<+camerongray> lol
[13:52]<+camerongray> He moved to the London office
[13:53]<Immental1200> Along with the other?
[13:53]<@BC_Programming> make a nativity scene out of taxidermied squirrels
[13:53]<Immental1200> YES
[13:53]<+camerongray> haha
[13:53]<+camerongray> He now stares at me: https://twitter.com/camerongray1515/status/376995849437339648/photo/1/large
[13:53]<@BC_Programming> This is "squesus in the manger"
[13:54]<Immental1200> That's freaking creepy.
[13:54]<+camerongray> lol
[13:54]<+camerongray> We had them in the pub at one point sitting on their own chairs piled with cushons - Got a lot of strange looks
[13:54]<Immental1200> Erm.
[13:54]<Immental1200> OK...
[13:54]<+camerongray> That's fairly normal for us
[13:55]<Immental1200> o.O
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> "here is this lion. We need you to stuff it for display"
[13:55]<+camerongray> We made the MD dress up as a doctor for the company presentation
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2011/8/18/9/enhanced-buzz-27181-1313673952-14.jpg
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> NAILED IT
[13:55]<Immental1200> What about fat squirrels
[13:55]<Immental1200> http://alexkimmell.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/fat-squirrel.jpg
[13:55]<+camerongray> Then two of the guys dressed up as Mario and Luigi for the company go-karting
[13:56]<+camerongray> We have learned to move the squirrels when "Lucky" (dog) comes in
[13:56]<@BC_Programming> did the guy dressed up as a doctor sing
[13:56]<Immental1200> Oh wow.
[13:56]<+camerongray> Oh,and this got delivered: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/325491_539374219423056_1458030768_o.jpg
[13:56]<+camerongray> We marched him through the building with that one :P
[13:56]<Immental1200> I saw that
[13:57]<@BC_Programming> In the mushroom kingdom I'm the finest doc by far
[13:57]<@BC_Programming> I got my degree by watching House and scrubs and E.R
[13:57]<+camerongray> haha
[13:57]<@BC_Programming> Brightly coloured pills, they'll cure all your ills
[13:57]<@BC_Programming> Just as long as you've got Fever or the Chills
[13:57]<+camerongray> It was after a client called the MD "Doogie Howser"
[13:58]<Immental1200> Oh dear
[13:58]<+camerongray> We also "tinkered" with his powerpoint a little
[13:58]<Immental1200> How so
[13:58]<+camerongray> "So, here is a chart of our top clients" as he stands in front of a photo of Doogie Howser
[13:59]<+camerongray> Then at Christmas - https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/322799_541837454336_319791061_o.jpg
[14:00]<+camerongray> We also decided that if someone has more than 5 parcels delivered and they aren't in the office - The Christmas tree comes out
[14:01]<Immental1200> You guys are nuts
[14:01]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:01]<@Calum> that sounds like an excellent idea
[14:01]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, forgot about the adult bibs :P
[14:02]<WonderWoman> Calum has a mega Hot chocolate!
[14:02]<Immental1200> Why is one guy dressed up, with a tinsly desk... when the other guy has nothing?
[14:02]<+camerongray> One of the guys complained about crumbs from his lunch - Got a bib delivered the next day
[14:02]<+camerongray> That guy came in late so we had a bit fun before he came in :P
[14:02]<+camerongray> Oh wow, just noticed the squirrel in that one!
[14:03]<Immental1200> The squirrel is everywhere...
[14:03]<+camerongray> Yeo
[14:03]<+camerongray> Yep*
[14:03]<+camerongray> Worryingly - the first squirrel was bought sober
[14:03]<Immental1200> That's never a good sign
[14:03]<+camerongray> Well - He placed the first bid sober
[14:04]<+camerongray> Then him and one of the other guys sat in the pub as the auction for that one and the second one ended
[14:04]<+camerongray> We get mixed reactions to them
[14:05]<+camerongray> Unfortunately the seller refused to sell us the aircraft seats we bought for £10
[14:07]<@Calum> I hate it when that happens
[14:07]<+camerongray> Yeah, we needed seating!
[14:12]<Immental1200> I've never had it personally
[14:12]<Immental1200> But my dad got it a couple times
[14:12]<Immental1200> Then again when it's silly and it's £150 of item for £20 ...
[14:14]<@Calum> so set a reserve, or set it as buy it now?
[14:14]<@Calum> it's a binding contract when you start an auction or list an item on ebay
[14:18]<WonderWoman> Oh btw, looking forward to this meet thing calum told me about!!
[14:19]<+camerongray> Yeah, should be great!
[14:19]<@Mulreay> Yepper
[14:19]<+camerongray> Strange how we are all UK and have never met"
[14:19]<@Calum> gonna be good times
[14:20]<+camerongray> I mean, I've been to Derby!
[14:20]<@Calum> I've been to Manchester
[14:20]<@Mulreay> me too
[14:20]<+camerongray> lol
[14:20]<@Mulreay> Derby that is
[14:20]<+camerongray> hehe
[14:20]<Immental1200> People are too cheapskate to either raise the listing price or add a reserve... it's the cause of a ton of problems.
[14:20]<+camerongray> I keep thinking of things to do
[14:20]<+camerongray> Mary King's Close could be good
[14:20]<Immental1200> Then again eBay taking 10% and PayPal taking 3.4% is a total scam
[14:20]<WonderWoman> I lived in london
[14:20]<WonderWoman> i am the best
[14:21]<@Calum> Immental1200: they can get a black mark against them on Ebay for not selling at the listed price at least
[14:21]<@Calum> true, but there's always the option of selling elsewhere
[14:21]<Immental1200> Nowhere else has the item views
[14:21]<@Calum> exactly
[14:22]<Immental1200> But if you want to shift say three £200 PCs ... you're better off selling them for £180 or so on Trade It or Gumtree
[14:22]<Immental1200> You'd make more
[14:22]<@Calum> indeed
[14:22]<Immental1200> I sold one, and the buyer must have taken a hammer to it.. the drive bays were bent totally out of shape and the CPU heatsink was in three pieces.
[14:23]<Immental1200> Yet the case was fully intact, as was all the packaing.
[14:23]<Immental1200> Still tried claiming it arrived like it
[14:23]<@Calum> hah, sounds familiar
[14:23]<+camerongray> Could go to the castle too :P
[14:23]<Immental1200> I got to keep the money he paid me... and I got the PC back...
[14:23]<@Calum> up for the castle!
[14:23]<+camerongray> Tricky thinking of touristy things to do in your own city
[14:24]<Immental1200> It's easier to google edinburgh tourist
[14:24]<Immental1200> Get the tourist info site and see
[14:24]<@Mulreay> If we were all decending on Manchester I would be like.. 'erm I know a good pub?!?'
[14:24]<+camerongray> lol
[14:24]<+camerongray> Yeah, quite a lot of pubs here
[14:25]<WonderWoman> Lets go to LANDAN! i know london :P
[14:25]<@Calum> nope
[14:25]<WonderWoman> Why not?
[14:25]<@BC_Programming> I heard Canada is a place
[14:25]<@Mulreay> My parents live there
[14:25]<Immental1200> London is easy, everyone knows a few good landmarks and things
[14:25]<WonderWoman> I don't know landmarks
[14:25]<WonderWoman> i know london
[14:25]<Immental1200> I don't xD
[14:25]<WonderWoman> I am from london. Lived in london all my life.. till last year
[14:25]<@Calum> Canada's nice but it's like an 8 hour flight just to get to the east coast...
[14:26]<@Mulreay> I go about 4-5 times a year to see my parents so know it quite well
[14:26]<Immental1200> Ah, that would explain it.
[14:26]<WonderWoman> Where in london?
[14:26]<@Mulreay> St Johns Wood
[14:26]<@BC_Programming> Heck it's an 8 hour flight to go from one coast to the other
[14:26]<@Calum> I don't like London
[14:26]<@Calum> exactly BC
[14:26]<+camerongray> We have an office in Clappham Junction
[14:26]<WonderWoman> Ahhh cool. not far from edgware/stanmore
[14:26]<WonderWoman> Clapham is where my mum lives
[14:26]<+camerongray> Nice
[14:27]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: How long does it take you to get to the UK? :P
[14:27]<@Calum> must be like a 14 hour flight I would've thought?
[14:27]<+camerongray> eep
[14:28]<@Calum> it was 8 hours for me to get to Ottawa which is on the eastern side
[14:28]<@Calum> so, closer to the UK than BC
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> I wouldn't know being that I've never left Canada
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> Actually I've never been East of Alberta
[14:28]<+camerongray> lol
[14:28]<+camerongray> That's why you should come and visit us :P
[14:29]<@Mulreay> And why would you? You have Bears and Beavers and Moose and the such
[14:29]<WonderWoman> Canadas full of nice people
[14:29]<@BC_Programming> Oh wait I think I was in Ottawa until I was like 2
[14:29]<@BC_Programming> WonderWoman: So our plan is working
[14:30]<WonderWoman> Yes it is :) whatever this plan is.. :)
[14:30]<@BC_Programming> We want to spread happiness around the world
[14:30]<@BC_Programming> we call it
[14:30]<@BC_Programming> manafestivus destiny
[14:31]<WonderWoman> Yay... every one likes happiness :)
[14:31]<@BC_Programming> happiness is our code word for illegal drugs
[14:31]<@BC_Programming> concentrated maple syrup
[14:32]<+camerongray> haha
[14:32]<WonderWoman> mmm maple syrup.
[14:32]<+camerongray> But we have Irn Bru and Haggis :P
[14:33]<@Calum> right I am off for tonight...need my beauty sleep, catch you all later
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[14:33]<+camerongray> lol
[14:33]<WonderWoman> Yuk... irn bru
[14:33]<WonderWoman> is just wrong
[14:33]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: I need to be an op :P
[14:33]<Immental1200> Why
[14:33]<Immental1200> Oh noes
[14:33]<+camerongray> Orange is a healty colour!
[14:33]<Immental1200> What will he do :O
[14:33]<Immental1200> Wait
[14:33]<Immental1200> But that means
[14:33]<+camerongray> healthy*
[14:33]<Immental1200> The bot will have to be changed
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> Immental1200: why?
[14:34]<WonderWoman> I should probs go... Calum might actually kill me maybe...
[14:34]<Immental1200> Because it says don't worry camerongray doesn't have op
[14:34]<Immental1200> To db
[14:34]<+camerongray> haha
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> that would make it funnier
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> if the bot then set op on him and said
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> "now he does"
[14:34]<+camerongray> hahah!
[14:35]<WonderWoman> Enjoy your nights peoples. :) and have a good day tomorrow.. :)
[14:35]<+camerongray> cya!
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[14:35]<Immental1200> That works very well.
[14:35]<Immental1200> He'll run for his life even quicker than usual.
[14:35]<+camerongray> haha
[14:43]<Immental1200> BC - do it!
[14:43]<@Mulreay> He can't
[14:43]<@BC_Programming> do what?
[14:43]<Immental1200> Oh, it's not his bot is it.
[14:43]<Immental1200> Oopsie.
[14:43]<@BC_Programming> oh
[14:43]<@BC_Programming> I thought you wanted me to dance
[14:44]<@BC_Programming> well now you've gone and made things awkward
[14:44]<Immental1200> It's Craig / Jacky. I see.
[14:44]<@Mulreay> I enjoyed it, do it again BC_Programming
[14:44]<Immental1200> Haha
[14:44]<@BC_Programming> I'm still tired from the last jig
[14:47]<+camerongray> lol
[14:48]<@BC_Programming> sorry I got anxious
[14:49]<+camerongray> That's what happened last time I was dancing
[14:49]<+camerongray> Run down the line they said, then stop at the end they said
[14:50]<+camerongray> Discrimination against those with non-grippy shoes
[14:51]<+camerongray> Then again, my friends said I looked "graceful"
[14:51]<+camerongray> haha
[14:51]<+camerongray> Scottish Dancing - Very danger ous
[14:51]<+camerongray> dangerous*
[14:52]<@BC_Programming> as opposed to swinging a bag of gophers over your head which is totally safe
[14:52]<+camerongray> haha
[14:52]<+camerongray> Like the one in Informatics - We are all totally strong enough to pick up a pair of girls
[14:52]<@BC_Programming> what's important is whether you can carry them while they struggle
[14:53]<+camerongray> haha
[14:53]<@BC_Programming> "I shall add you to my collection"
[14:53]<+camerongray> That was a fun night
[14:53]<@BC_Programming> "I shall force you to do all sorts of things"
[14:54]<@BC_Programming> First, I need you to get to world eight in mario 3
[14:54]<+camerongray> Even if due to it being Informatics there was a slight shortage of girls :P
[14:54]<+camerongray> Then again, we finally decoded the binary "art" on the wall
[15:00]<@BC_Programming> I just had an idea for Minecraft, and how we can make the Whitelist server more interesting and unique
[15:01]<@BC_Programming> a giant bedrock wall around say 500x500, making every resource limited
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[15:31]<+camerongray> Hi aden
[15:31]<aden> hey
[15:42]<Immental1200> That would be interesting. However, that means you're limited to less than 500 diamonds. There's an average of like 4/5 a chunk isn't there? Depending on how many players, that could be well...
[15:42]<Immental1200> It could invoke PvP madness BC_Programming
[15:43]<@BC_Programming> No it wouldn't, it is a whitelist server
[15:43]<@BC_Programming> PVP would be disabled and the entire idea would be basically this group here
[15:43]<Immental1200> Ah
[15:43]<Immental1200> That could be pretty interesting then
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> Craig ran a server before and it worked well as a community with just Craig/Mulreay/Camerongray etc.
[15:44]<Immental1200> But rather than bedrock
[15:44]<Immental1200> There's a plugin
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> That was the server where cam burned down the creeper statue lol
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> Immental1200 I know, I hate that plugin
[15:44]<Immental1200> Oh.
[15:44]<Immental1200> Well, it looks nicer... and allows you to see pretty things, like a wave of creepers comign through the wall to kill you ;)
[15:44]<+camerongray> Hmm, I just liked the original server where we all just made cool stuff
[15:45]<+camerongray> And where I won a stupid ammount of diamond! (Bet you never knew this)
[15:45]<@Mulreay> Yeah and then camerongray destroyed them
[15:45]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: fair enough but thing is nobody was playing on the whitelist- not even me
[15:45]<+camerongray> Yeah
[15:45]<+camerongray> Suppose we could start it up a bit more
[15:45]<+camerongray> Did you know about my diamond stash>
[15:45]<Immental1200> Who's server is this?
[15:46]<+camerongray> It's on my box at the moment
[15:46]<+camerongray> Oh yeah BC_Programming, that will need moved to my new server in the future - Just a heads up
[15:46]<@BC_Programming> gotcha
[15:46]<Immental1200> I've got space on my server is all and it's 24/7 only thing is it's french.
[15:46]<+camerongray> Mine is colocated
[15:46]<+camerongray> So will the new one
[15:46]<+camerongray> Got a great deal from openitc
[15:46]<Immental1200> Ah nice
[15:47]<@BC_Programming> since we have so little built probably makes sense to just restart the map for the new terrain gen
[15:47]<Immental1200> If you're limiting it to 500x500 you'll want to wait till 1.7 is out
[15:47]<+camerongray> Yeah
[15:48]<@BC_Programming> snapshot
[15:48]<Immental1200> Wasn't aware there was a bukkit build?
[15:48]<@BC_Programming> who said anything about bukkit?
[15:49]<@BC_Programming> It would be vanilla, the limiting idea was just shooting the breeze
[15:49]<Immental1200> You'd have to build the wall by hand ;)
[15:49]<@BC_Programming> mcedit
[15:50]<Immental1200> Eh. I've never managed to use it properly.
[15:50]<@BC_Programming> good thing I would be the one doing it then
[15:50]<Immental1200> :P
[15:50]<Immental1200> I can use worldedit well, and that's all I need :P
[15:51]<@BC_Programming> Thing is I wouldn't want the server to just sorta be forgotten like the one running now. Craig's Server had Mulreay/Camerongray/Myself and of course Craig joining frequently, but for some reason when I "restarted" the idea of a whitelist server for the group the only people I think even joined for any length of time was myself and camerongray
[15:52]<Immental1200> Craigs was unwhitelisted?
[15:52]<@BC_Programming> Craigs was a whitelist
[15:52]<@BC_Programming> that's why I said "restarted" the idea
[15:53]<Immental1200> I thought Craig's was you restarting the idea. I got confused.
[15:53]<@BC_Programming> Craig had a server from Alpha 1.2.5 through Beta 1.4
[15:53]<Immental1200> Ah
[15:54]<@BC_Programming> between 1.4 and 1.5 beta his server was down and in the meantime many of us moved to Tux2's Server
[15:54]<@BC_Programming> which if I recall was originally a whitelist but with a public application and website
[15:56]<Immental1200> AH
[15:56]<Immental1200> I was on an FTB server like that for a while
[15:57]<@BC_Programming> The idea I'm thinking is that it would be neat to have a small whitelist server. No need for protection plugins or logging because we would all be friends. Craig's had no protection/claims/regions etc. and we had no problems
[15:58]<Immental1200> That's how the FTB server I was on workd
[15:58]<@Mulreay> I'd be game
[15:58]<Immental1200> There was about 20 people at the max, with probably 7 on at once, worked really well.
[15:58]<Immental1200> I think there was two cases of people nicking items in 5 months.
[15:59]<Immental1200> Same person so they got booted
[15:59]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: awesome that makes it worth it IMO
[15:59]<Immental1200> I'm in so long as you don't all get annoyed when I hit the diamond jackpot ;)
[16:00]<@Mulreay> BC_Programming @p
[16:00]<@Mulreay> oops
[16:00]<@Mulreay> :p
[16:00]<@BC_Programming> are you trying to use command blocks
[16:00]<Immental1200> The new command blocks look interesting.
[16:00]<@BC_Programming> new?
[16:00]<Immental1200> 1.7
[16:00]<Immental1200> All the stuff being added
[16:01]<Immental1200> Block manipulation isn't it
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[16:02]<@BC_Programming> now I need to check my PM log with camerongray to find out my username to login to the server lol
[16:02]<Immental1200> Could always just ask him as he's there :P
[16:03]<jamer> Lol
[16:03]<@BC_Programming> if I don't remember I don't know how he would
[16:04]<@BC_Programming> ahh there we go
[16:45]<Immental1200> Ah, but if he hadn't remember... he'd have logged into his account and found it :P
[16:48]<Immental1200> Wow, I need to look at times.
[16:49]<@BC_Programming> lol
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[18:37]<+Craig> Hey BC_Programming, camerongray, And Mulreay
[18:43]<@BC_Programming> Happy thanksgiving Craig :D
[18:43]<+Craig> Happy Thanksgiving!
[18:43]<+Craig> How was yours
[18:43]<+Craig> ?
[18:43]<@BC_Programming> eating dinner as I speak
[18:44]<@BC_Programming> or type I suppose
[18:48]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[18:48]<@BC_Programming> well Today I learned I hate brussel's sprouts
[18:50]<@BC_Programming> I was going to say Happy thanksgiving earlier than I realized that you were the only other Canadian and nobody would know what I was on about
[18:53]<+Craig> Hahahahahha Nice
[18:55]<@BC_Programming> Oh I "relaunched" that little whitelist server at mc.bc-programming.com, trying to capture the feel we had with your server back in the day- latest snapshot survival no ops etc.
[18:56]<Immental1200> Am I whitelisted?
[18:57]<+Craig> :P
[18:58]<@BC_Programming> Immental1200: nope
[18:59]<Immental1200> Can I be? :P
[19:00]<@BC_Programming> maybe in a while if it actually ends up with the old players, should know in a week or so
[19:00]<@BC_Programming> it mgiht just fail like my other attempts though arguably me never joining very much didn't help either
[19:00]<+Craig> :P
[19:01]<Immental1200> I'd join lots :P so there's theory behind adding me before a weeks trial ;)
[19:02]<jamer> your still up alex?
[19:02]<@BC_Programming> you're*
[19:02]<Immental1200> Talking to my friend on facebook, I've a feeling she just fell asleep though jamer :P
[19:02]<@BC_Programming> I'm the grammar helper you deserve but not the one you need right now
[19:03]<jamer> lol
[19:03]<Immental1200> loool
[19:04]<Immental1200> Yeah, she went to sleep. I will too :P
[19:21]<jamer> some of my friends are pure assholes on stuff
[19:48]<+Craig> BC_Programming, your server is down........ :P
[19:51]<@BC_Programming> should work now
[19:54]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[19:54]<@BC_Programming> lots of End Of Stream errors and "Can't keep up" messages in the log
[19:55]<@BC_Programming> It's repeating the End Of Stream message for my IP for hours after I disconnected
[19:55]<+Craig> Hmmm
[20:07]<@BC_Programming> Pet peeve: people who open the door to ask a question and then leave it wide open
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[20:50]<+Craig> I agree completely BC
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