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[02:31]<@BC_Programming> oh good
[02:31]<@BC_Programming> I just deleted my main terraria world
[02:31]<@BC_Programming> well it was fun playing the game while I gave a **it I guess
[02:49]<@BC_Programming> recovered
[02:49]<@BC_Programming> Also recuva is a piece of crap that I have now uninstalled because it's useless trash
[02:50]<@BC_Programming> "No deleted files found" from recuva but I downloaded another reovery and it found like 2 thousand... one of which was exactly the file I was looking for hooray
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[10:37]<@Mulreay> congrats
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[11:51]<+camerongray> I love how some people get confused over a non-issue but others in CH try to help: http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,140506.0.html
[11:52]<+camerongray> Yeah, keep trying to help someone remove nearby networks from their WiFi scan list...
[11:52]<PCdoc> nathan online on forums
[11:52]<+camerongray> I should have replied - "The solution to remove those networks is to go to all your neighbours and make them turn off their routers"
[11:54]<@Mulreay> Or turn your wi-fi off
[11:54]<+camerongray> lol yeah
[11:54]<+camerongray> The funny thing is what they are worried about
[11:55]<+camerongray> They are detecting a TrendNet router and they read something about an issue with TrentNet IP cameras being vulnerable
[11:55]<+camerongray> That's like reading that a certain car has a problem and freaking out because you saw one drive past
[11:56]<@Mulreay> wow
[11:57]<@Mulreay> How do some people dress themselves in the morning?
[11:57]<+camerongray> hehe
[12:00]<PCdoc> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,140595.0.html
[12:02]<+camerongray> 450w is plenty
[12:03]<+camerongray> Doubt that will even exceed 200w
[12:03]<PCdoc> and if corei7 4th gen ?
[12:03]<@Mulreay> I just replied to that :p
[12:03]<+camerongray> Yeah
[12:03]<+camerongray> Chips nowadays are really efficient
[12:03]<PCdoc> also for core i7?
[12:03]<+camerongray> Even mine only hits 250w in games - And that's with an i7 3770k and a 560ti
[12:04]<PCdoc> lol I was actually confused coz the config is high and also has graphics card
[12:04]<PCdoc> 2gb
[12:04]<+camerongray> Just make sure it's a decent 450w
[12:04]<+camerongray> A 6450 doesn't really count when considering power
[12:05]<+camerongray> If I'm honest, you'll get better graphics performance in theory by removign the 6450 and using the Intel HD
[12:06]<PCdoc> the cleint actually wants gaming pc
[12:06]<+camerongray> Then don't put in a 6450!
[12:06]<+camerongray> It's nowhere close to a gaming card
[12:06]<+camerongray> I'd expect the Intel HD to run games much better
[12:06]<PCdoc> he wants an amd only not nvidia
[12:07]<+camerongray> The 6450 is poop
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[12:07]<+camerongray> Take it out, save money, use the Intel HD
[12:07]<+camerongray> Hey Calum
[12:07]<@Calum> hey camerongray
[12:07]<@Mulreay> hey Calum
[12:07]<@Calum> hey Mulreay
[12:08]<+camerongray> PCdoc: And why an i7?
[12:08]<+camerongray> The budget distribution in that is wrong
[12:09]<+camerongray> That's nothing like a gaming PC
[12:09]<@Calum> gee, cameron, don't hold back, tell us what you really think
[12:09]<+camerongray> lol
[12:09]<+camerongray> Calum: 4770(k?) - Radeon 6450
[12:09]<PCdoc> i7 is rich in graphics
[12:10]<+camerongray> And overkill for games
[12:10]<+camerongray> The 6450 on the other hand sucks at anything other than very light gaems
[12:10]<+camerongray> games*
[12:10]<@Calum> yeah the 6450 is somewhat pointless in that setup, the Intel HD almost matches it
[12:10]<+camerongray> Calum: beats it from what I can see :P
[12:11]<+camerongray> If you dropped down to an i5 and bumped graphics up to something like a 650 - Then you would have a gaming machine for around the same price
[12:11]<@Calum> wow you're right, I must've been thinking of the Ivybridge graphics or something
[12:11]<@Calum> but yeah, the 6450 is in fact a downgrade then
[12:11]<@Calum> also if you're not overclocking the K version is a waste of cash
[12:12]<@Calum> side note though, damn that's impressive from the 4770K's graphics
[12:12]<+camerongray> Yeah!
[12:12]<@Calum> I had a 6450 for a little while
[12:12]<+camerongray> And the fact the motherboard is B85 and doesn't allow overclocking
[12:12]<@Calum> faster than that, on a CPU, is awesome
[12:12]<+camerongray> Intel boards are also more expensive than others if I'm not mistaken
[12:13]<@Calum> ah, well yeah in that case the K version is definitely pointless too
[12:13]<@Calum> yeah but Intel boards are also often more stable, even if they're not particularly feature rich
[12:13]<+camerongray> Yeah
[12:13]<+camerongray> PCdoc: That is much more like a CPU heavy workstation that someone like me would use for big computation tasks - Not a gaming machine
[12:13]<@Calum> They are getting out of the mobo business though, I thought they already had to be honest, but they definitely will be out of it soon
[12:13]<@Calum> they announced it like 2-3 yearsa go
[12:14]<PCdoc> ok if I remove graphics card
[12:14]<+camerongray> PCdoc: And drop down to a lower CPU
[12:14]<PCdoc> i5
[12:14]<+camerongray> Yeah
[12:14]<+camerongray> Then get a real graphics card
[12:14]<PCdoc> like which one?
[12:14]<@Calum> the i5 4430 is usually a good price, better to get that than the 4670 as it's hardly any slower and usually much cheaper
[12:15]<+camerongray> Whatever you can fit in your budget, a 650 sounds good but if you can go higher, then do
[12:15]<+camerongray> Calum: Would moving to an H chipset be worth it too over a B?
[12:15]<@Calum> 650Ti is a decent budget choice, it's much better than the plain 650
[12:15]<PCdoc> 2gb or 1gb ?
[12:15]<@Calum> nah the H series is hardly any different and usually costs about the same, I would go B85
[12:15]<@Mulreay> wish I had gotten a ti :p
[12:16]<@Calum> for a card that level, the memory size really won't make a difference, so get the 1GB
[12:16]<+camerongray> PCdoc: For a single monitor 1gb is fine, unless the price difference is tiny
[12:16]<PCdoc> and motherboard which one ? like if want overclocking
[12:17]<+camerongray> Calum: But the GT 610 is 4gb, that must be the 780 :P
[12:17]<@Calum> hah
[12:17]<+camerongray> PCdoc: Then you would need an Z87 chipset and a 4670k CPU
[12:17]<+camerongray> Gigabyte or ASUS
[12:17]<@Calum> Asus Z87-A is the cheapest I would go on the motherboard
[12:18]<+camerongray> If you even THINK about any MSI products, Calum will kill a puppy
[12:18]<@Calum> I'll kill two if you buy Asrock
[12:18]<+camerongray> lol
[12:18]<+camerongray> What if he buys an Asrock board and an MSI video card?
[12:19]<PCdoc> gigabyte wld be fine
[12:19]<+camerongray> Yeah
[12:19]<@Calum> the universe wouldn't allow that much fail in one place
[12:19]<+camerongray> lol!
[12:19]<PCdoc> but I have an experience that intel boards are long lasting
[12:19]<+camerongray> They are, just not that fully featured
[12:19]<@Calum> if you go Gigabyte, get the Z87X-D3H
[12:19]<+camerongray> Gigabyte and ASUS are fine too
[12:20]<+camerongray> With components there is the time before they break but there is also the time before they are obsolete
[12:20]<+camerongray> It's like when CH freak out that overclocking will cut years off the CPU's life - That's great if they didn't last decades anyway
[12:20]<@Calum> yeah but that time is getting longer and longer...an i7 920 is still more than enough for hardcore gaming today, and is identical in real world usage to a brand new 4930K
[12:20]<+camerongray> Your CPU will fail around the year 2020
[12:21]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[12:21]<@Calum> that's a 4 year old CPU still kicking ass
[12:21]<+camerongray> Patio likes to make out that an OC'd CPU will fail after like a month
[12:21]<@Calum> hah
[12:22]<@Calum> try supporting thousands of them, then see what the actual failure rate is
[12:22]<+camerongray> db mode engaged :P
[12:22]<@Calum> haha
[12:22]<@Calum> but seriously, the rate is close to 0
[12:23]<@Calum> unless you're pushing insane voltages or something of course
[12:24]<@Calum> you could always be like my friend Rich, who got given a sample of the Xeon X5680 (hex core, 32nm) and treated it like an i7 920 (45nm)...pushed the voltage like crazy, got a nice 4.6GHz out of it, then 6 months later, boom, dead CPU
[12:24]<@Calum> the irony was, it failed a week after he was told the recommended max was 1.325V, 1.35V if you're going crazy, whereas the max for 45nm was like 1.45+
[12:24]<PCdoc> I dont remember the processor number, left that paper in office. I'll check and ask u tom
[12:25]<+camerongray> Processor number?
[12:25]<+camerongray> Wasn't it an i7 you originally had?
[12:25]<PCdoc> no i5
[12:25]<+camerongray> Ahh
[12:25]<+camerongray> Basically, if you want to overclock it MUST be a 4670k
[12:26]<+camerongray> And the board MUST have a Z87 chipset
[12:26]<+camerongray> Otherwise overclocking is pretty much impossible as you can't change the multiplier
[12:26]<+camerongray> And in this case you'd want I'd say at leats 500w PSU
[12:26]<+camerongray> least*
[12:26]<+camerongray> Quality unit too
[12:27]<@Calum> yeah 500 or thereabouts would be fine, leaves a little room for expansion too
[12:27]<@Calum> Antec do a good 520W, or there's the XFX Pro 550W
[12:28]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, what are good Antec ones and what aren't - I never recommed/use them as I'm always wary
[12:28]<PCdoc> all those brands are not easily available in India
[12:29]<@Calum> most are decent actually, it's some of their older lines which have high failure rates due to the capacitors not being great - from memory the original Truepower series were particularly bad
[12:29]<+camerongray> PCdoc: What PSU brands are there?
[12:29]<@Calum> the High Current Gamer are all good...High Current Pro/Gold are all good...Signature are excellent too
[12:29]<+camerongray> Cool
[12:29]<+camerongray> And about Coolermaster?
[12:29]<@Calum> Antec Basiq also isn't bad for a budget unit, would rather pick up an XFX around that price though as the Basiq isn't much cheaper and it's not fantastic
[12:30]<PCdoc> There's a local brand which is supposed to be the best one in here called Circle with 3yrs warranty. Then is Cooler master but comes in expensive category
[12:30]<@Calum> Coolermaster, hmm...Real Power Pro was alright but it's old now, the rest I would tend to avoid. The GX series isn't good and that's their most common line
[12:30]<+camerongray> PCdoc: Hmm, never heard of 'Circle' sounds Generic
[12:31]<+camerongray> PCdoc: What about Corsair?
[12:31]<PCdoc> google says antec india is there, will have to find there supplier
[12:31]<@Calum> Coolermaster Elite Power is also not good. their Silent Pro isn't bad but are expensive, and I don't know about their "B series"
[12:31]<PCdoc> they advertise "full watts, no cheats"
[12:31]<PCdoc> http://www.antecindia.co.in/
[12:31]<@Calum> trouble with Corsair is their budget units aren't that great
[12:32]<+camerongray> Jeez, That Circle one looks stupidly cheap
[12:32]<+camerongray> Rs. 2,419.00
[12:32]<+camerongray> Works out to £24.33
[12:32]<+camerongray> As in, Nope!
[12:32]<@Calum> Circle don't look good, can't find a proper review of one but they don't look good
[12:34]<+camerongray> Yeah, you can really tell when the photo shows a big sticker saying "AC 230V"
[12:34]<+camerongray> Anything with a fixed voltage or manual switch is usually either old or crap
[12:34]<@Calum> yeah that's a good rule of thumb
[12:35]<+camerongray> It's odd, I'm only really fussy about brands when it comes to electrical stuff :P
[12:35]<+camerongray> Coudln't care about clothes :P
[12:35]<@Calum> and remember, if it's old enough to have one but was good back then, it probably won't be any good now
[12:35]<@Calum> heh, yeah, but a cheap t shirt can't kill you like a cheap PSU ;)
[12:35]<+camerongray> Yeah
[12:35]<PCdoc> 220v-230v is input for india
[12:35]<@Calum> or at least it would have to try harder
[12:36]<+camerongray> PCdoc: Yeah,t hat's correct, but good PSUs can automatically switch between them
[12:36]<+camerongray> Having one that ONLY works on one voltage or manually switches is a bad sign
[12:37]<+camerongray> Sure a cheap PSU has a warranty - But that won't cover what it blows up
[12:38]<+camerongray> Calum: I'll add this fixed voltage one was 'rated' at 1000w
[12:38]<@Calum> hah
[12:38]<@Calum> I'd like to see it do even half of that
[12:38]<@Calum> from a safe distance
[12:38]<+camerongray> Yeah :P
[12:39]<+camerongray> Calum: Oh yeah, thought this would give you a laugh - My flatmate has a PC from Cyberpower (bought from eBuyer) - Not bad, NVIDIA 660, Ivy Bridge i5, Gigabyte Motherboard, PSU is a basic coolermaster but does the job
[12:39]<+camerongray> BUT
[12:39]<+camerongray> Guess what it doesn't have
[12:40]<+camerongray> Case fans! Not one
[12:40]<PCdoc> which collor master smps is a good one? I find several 550w PSU's
[12:40]<PCdoc> of coolermaster*
[12:40]<+camerongray> And the PSU is bottom mounted so even that can't do it!
[12:40]<@Calum> I was going to say a case, I was half right. I never recommend Cyberpower.
[12:40]<@Calum> PCdoc: which models are available?
[12:41]<+camerongray> Calum: Yeah, I sometimes do in CH but that's when someone is wanting something premade - The only options are Cyberpower and IBuy(lackof)Power
[12:41]<PCdoc> according to there indian website http://apac.coolermaster.com/en/product/Lines/gaming-vs-series.html
[12:41]<@Calum> camerongray: in the UK or US?
[12:41]<+camerongray> US
[12:41]<@Calum> ah right
[12:42]<@Calum> yeah their choices suck
[12:42]<+camerongray> I'll hunt for some screws and give him a fan - It was when he said that he couldn't put it under his desk as the top got blocked and it ran hot
[12:42]<+camerongray> I was like - "The heat will come out the back through the fa- oh..."
[12:43]<@Calum> PCdoc: the V series is alright actually, I would go for the V550S
[12:43]<+camerongray> I leant him my Majestouch though - Cnverted him to mechanical!
[12:43]<@Calum> they don't seem to be available in the UK so I wasn't aware of them
[12:43]<@Calum> camerongray: excellent
[12:43]<PCdoc> but these PSU's wont fit in the chassis which allow PSU to be installed at the top part of the chassis ?
[12:44]<PCdoc> instead of bottom
[12:44]<+camerongray> PCdoc: They will
[12:44]<+camerongray> Just turns upside-down
[12:44]<+camerongray> So the fan faces into the case
[12:44]<PCdoc> but then the PSU's fan will face either up or down (inside the chassis)\
[12:44]<+camerongray> Make it face down towards the components
[12:44]<PCdoc> yeah . .and the chassis will require fans ?!
[12:44]<+camerongray> Yeah
[12:45]<@Calum> if the fan faces down, it will take air from inside the case and blow it out the back of the PSU
[12:45]<+camerongray> Then again, most good cases seem to take bottom PSUs
[12:45]<PCdoc> but wont the jeat coming from PSU fan damage mobo?
[12:45]<@Calum> it doesn't blow into the case, it blows out
[12:45]<PCdoc> heat *
[12:45]<+camerongray> The fan intakes from the case
[12:45]<PCdoc> oh
[12:51]<PCdoc> http://apac.coolermaster.com/en/product/Detail/powersupply/gaming-vs-series/v550s.html cable moduler system .. new to me
[12:51]<PCdoc> modular cable system *
[12:51]<@Calum> yeah, it's quite handy for cable management
[12:52]<PCdoc> does the cable come with it ?
[12:52]<PCdoc> or is it seperate purchase?
[12:52]<@Calum> comes with it
[13:00]<PCdoc> going to sleep ...
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[13:00]<PCdoc> thanks a lot guys .. cleared lots of doubts
[13:01]<PCdoc> good nite :
[13:01]<PCdoc> :)
[13:01]<PCdoc> wonderwomen ?? :-o
[13:01]<@Calum> night PCdoc
[13:01]<PCdoc> <3
[13:01]<wonderwoman> calum!
[13:02]<@Calum> hey wonderwoman
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[13:05]<Immental1200> Calum why don't you like ASRock?
[13:05]<Immental1200> It's basically just ASUS...
[13:07]<@Calum> Asrock may be owned by the same parent company but their boards are nothing like as good
[13:07]<@Calum> not saying all Asus boards are perfect
[13:07]<@Calum> but I would not buy an Asrock motherboard
[13:07]<Immental1200> Not even the Extreme 4 or whatever it is?
[13:08]<@Calum> not even the Extreme 4 or whatever it is ;) not even the Extreme 9 in fact
[13:08]<@Calum> or the Extreme 999 XXX Z edition
[13:09]<Immental1200> My friend got one... he had a ASUS board before, and he prefers the ASRock
[13:09]<Immental1200> This guy is a total nutter, he's more interested in the pure electrical specs than anything else.
[13:09]<Immental1200> Extreme perfectionist
[13:09]<Immental1200> Why wouldn't you get one :P
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[13:10]<@Calum> I wouldn't get one due to reliability, and the fact that their BIOSes are written by a blind child with crayons
[13:10]<@Calum> and they're awful
[13:10]<Immental1200> *cough* EUFI *cough*
[13:11]<Immental1200> UEFI*
[13:11]<@Calum> OK, their UEFI is written by a blind child with crayons
[13:11]<Immental1200> I liked it... he let me play around with it and it was pretty nice
[13:12]<Immental1200> Then again I've only ever used two other UEFIs before, both Gigabyte
[13:12]<@Calum> every time they tried to force Asrock boards on us they were far inferior to Asus and Gigabyte
[13:12]<Immental1200> Oh sure I'd personally buy ASUS outright if I could always afford it
[13:13]<Immental1200> But I'd consider MSI and ASRock
[13:13]<Immental1200> Gigabyte I've never been keen on
[13:13]<@Calum> I've yet to use the new Gigabyte UEFI interface, prefer the older style myself
[13:13]<Immental1200> My friend went through two Gigabyte AM2/3 motehrboards, yet his ASUS one is still going
[13:13]<Immental1200> cousin*
[13:14]<@Calum> every manufacturer makes good and bad boards, and some of the good boards do get a bad batch now and again
[13:14]<@Calum> I just wouldn't buy an MSI or Asrock due to past experiences
[13:14]<Immental1200> He had two different gigabyte boards, the first was high end, the second was low end... both failed
[13:15]<@Calum> Can definitely say we had a much higher return rate on MSI and Asrock based systems
[13:15]<Immental1200> Hm
[13:15]<@Calum> and usually any high rates on Asus and Gbyte based systems were due to the designers speccing the systems badly
[13:16]<@Mulreay> I have a gigabyte board.. just saying. Carry on Gentlemen
[13:26]<@Calum> looks like you killed it, thanks Mulreay ;)
[13:26]<@Calum> lol
[13:26]<@Mulreay> lol
[13:26]<@Calum> also, db is quiet tonight
[13:26]<@Mulreay> Can only be a good thing
[13:26]<@Calum> doing a lot of /away /back though
[13:26]<@Calum> it is a good thing
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[13:29]<@Mulreay> shhh
[13:29]<@jacky> !rerun is a Good Thing
[13:29]<@jacky> <g>
[13:29]<@Calum> hehe
[13:30]<@jacky> Mulreay: Hello
[13:30]<@Mulreay> hey jacky
[13:30]<@jacky> Calum: Good afternoon (evening)
[13:30]<@Mulreay> Evening for us
[13:30]<@Calum> good evening (afternoon)
[13:31]<@jacky> killing time. *#@!# lawnmower battery is down again. have to wait for the trickle charger to bring it up some
[13:31]<@Calum> ahh heh
[13:32]<@Mulreay> Battery for a lawnmower? Are you from the future?
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[13:33]<@jacky> well... there ARE battery powered mowers
[13:33]<@jacky> but mine isn't
[13:34]<@jacky> like a car though, it needs a battery to turn the starter, to start it.
[13:34]<@jacky> :)
[13:34]<Ronin> ’©ç ’¥©çÙ ©’’h¥’秥 ¥®’¥®ç
[13:34]<Ronin> How i did th@?
[13:34]<@jacky> with your keyboard?
[13:34]<@Mulreay> Sorry I don't read stupid
[13:34]<@jacky> Mulreay: hehehee
[13:35]<Ronin> I'm telling the teacher!
[13:35]<@jacky> in Farsi?
[13:35]<Ronin> I'm telling the teacher!
[13:35]<Ronin> I'm telling the teacher!
[13:35]<Ronin> I'm telling the teacher!
[13:35]<Ronin> I'm telling the teacher!
[13:35]<Ronin> I'm telling the teacher!
[13:35]<Ronin> I'm telling the teacher!
[13:35]<Ronin> I'm telling the teacher!
[13:35]<@Mulreay> Are we going to get grepped?
[13:35]<@jacky> Ronin: chill thyself
[13:36]<Ronin> o
[13:37]<Ronin> jacky: poop
[13:38]<@jacky> Ronin: that's two
[13:38]<Ronin> Oh oh
[13:38]<Ronin> I ment uh oh
[13:39]<@Mulreay> It's a good job he's here Ronin as I'm renowned for my kick hammer
[13:39]<Ronin> :(
[13:39]<Ronin> Not again :(
[13:42]<Ronin> hi
[13:42]<Ronin> o
[13:44]<@Mulreay> OK how did quicktime sneak onto my PC?.. Sneaky itunes me thinks
[13:47]<Immental1200> Who on earth is Ronin
[13:47]<@Mulreay> That guy whose just been talking
[13:47]<Immental1200> Mulreay. It's Apple. You put on anything from them, even a music track you bought and you've an entire suite of shit installed.
[13:47]<Immental1200> No but like, has he been here before?
[13:48]<Immental1200> Jesus christ someone just signed up for three years of web hosting in one go
[13:48]<Ronin> hi
[13:48]<Immental1200> I don't think I've ever seen that before... most is a year
[13:48]<@Mulreay> I pay for my hosting month by month
[13:48]<Immental1200> As do 90% of our customers
[13:48]<Immental1200> If not 95%
[13:49]<@Mulreay> Mine is quite expensive though
[13:49]<Immental1200> The guys with dedicated servers like to pay for more than one month to ensure they don't miss payment
[13:49]<Immental1200> Still only two / three months though
[13:50]<Immental1200> Three years, genuinely think that's a record.
[13:50]<@Mulreay> To be fair to them though there customer service is second to non.. I had an issue once that couldn't be resolved quickly and the Manager actually rang me to apologise
[13:51]<Immental1200> We've done that, despite having a dedicated team for support tickets... the other directors like to interact directly
[13:51]<@Mulreay> Yeah, always a nice touch
[13:51]<Ronin> gh
[13:51]<Ronin> g
[13:51]<@Mulreay> which host do you work for?
[13:51]<Ronin> ngfh
[13:51]<Ronin> gj
[13:51]<Ronin> gjk
[13:52]<Ronin> sry
[13:52]<Immental1200> Plus when I have a record of 4.9 out of 5 stars for my replies, it's nice to show it off XD
[13:52]<@Mulreay> Ronin please stop flooding the channel
[13:52]<Ronin> Ronin
[13:52]<Immental1200> Artic Networks... articnetworks.com
[13:53]<Ronin> https://s3.amazonaws.com/mibbit/gfx/mode_admin.png
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[13:53]<@jacky> Ronin: be quiet a while
[13:53]<Immental1200> Lool.
[13:54]<@Mulreay> Are you UK Immental1200?
[13:54]<Immental1200> The company is, about half the servers are
[13:55]<@Mulreay> You're a lot cheaper than mine
[13:55]<Immental1200> We also just upgraded all our servers last night
[13:55]<@Mulreay> Ahh actually no your not
[13:55]<Immental1200> month*
[13:56]<Immental1200> Oh?
[13:56]<Immental1200> Who's your host
[13:56]<@Mulreay> It's a pound a month per domain where I pay £3.74 a month inc VAT for unlimited domains.. I have 8 on it at the moment.. completely unlimited
[13:57]<@Mulreay> unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk
[13:58]<Immental1200> We used to beat those prices
[13:58]<Immental1200> We upped them for new customers
[13:58]<Immental1200> We still have accounts running on I think £3 a month for unlimited, and I can still offer them
[13:58]<@Mulreay> What's your uptime like?
[14:00]<Immental1200> Currently, 100% :P
[14:00]<@Mulreay> Over what period?
[14:00]<Immental1200> Erm, that I'd need to look into, but I think it's like 1 and 1/2 - 3/4 months
[14:01]<Immental1200> The server before was at 99.98 I think
[14:01]<@Mulreay> Is the £3 inc VAT?
[14:01]<Immental1200> But the datacentre messed our IPs up
[14:01]<Immental1200> Erm, I will need to look at that
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[14:03]<@Mulreay> We will miss you
[14:03] * jacky sets mode: -b ~q:*!*@D60FC7AD.A6F0386D.78FE2A58.IP
[14:03]<@Mulreay> Nicely done jacky
[14:04]<@jacky> golly gee... I just now noticed he was pm'ing me
[14:04]<@jacky> what a shame
[14:04]<@jacky> I bet the thinks I ignored those pms
[14:04]<@Mulreay> with what?
[14:04]<Immental1200> £3 without VAT, but I can throw 5% discount in
[14:04]<@jacky> <g>
[14:04]<@Calum> ;)
[14:05]<@Mulreay> will keep you inming Immental1200
[14:05]<@Mulreay> in mind*
[14:05]<Immental1200> :P
[14:06]<Immental1200> What sites you got? :P
[14:07]<Immental1200> Little bonus for you, we just became a CloudFlare partner ;)
[14:07]<Immental1200> Not got the marketing stuff on the site yet tho
[14:07]<@Mulreay> to name a couple mulreay.com spaceandscience.co.uk stjohnswoodbarbers.co.uk
[14:08]<Immental1200> We can host it in the UK, France or Canda XD
[14:09]<@Mulreay> All my sites are UK based
[14:09]<@Mulreay> and the host I have at the moment is based in Manchester UK where I live
[14:09]<Immental1200> I stuck my stuff in France for a while and used them as the dummy sites for the new servers, when I put them back on our main UK servers... didn't notice a difference
[14:09]<Immental1200> I think half our UK stuff is Manchester
[14:09]<Immental1200> Other half is Maidenhead
[14:09]<@Mulreay> cool
[14:09]<Immental1200> Not totally sure
[14:25]<@Mulreay> According to fraps I get 1509fps in Minecraft :p
[14:26]<@Calum> heh nice
[14:26]<@jacky> see you all later....
[14:26]<@jacky> 
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[14:27]<@Calum> I'll be off for tonight as well, catch you all later
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[14:33]<Immental1200> What about in-game
[14:33]<Immental1200> What's that say
[14:33]<@Mulreay> Yeah don't burst my bubble :p I get average 248 in game
[14:36]<Immental1200> On high?
[14:36]<Immental1200> Because I get like 700 or something on lowest
[14:37]<@Mulreay> On high yes.. everything on full inc distance particles etc
[14:38]<Immental1200> I just had a laughing fit at your hardcore part 1 video.
[14:38]<Immental1200> 'oh bollocks'
[14:39]<@Mulreay> lol, that took ages to stage
[14:39]<Immental1200> BIG hole XD
[14:39]<Immental1200> Why did you not just gmc on a server :P
[14:39]<Immental1200> or enable cheats
[14:39]<@Mulreay> I had to make it look like I had never been there before
[14:42]<@Mulreay> And had no server at the time to work on.. was a pain to reset everything and make sure it didn't show 'cheats'
[14:43]<@Mulreay> Obviously the red flower was a bit of a giveaway
[14:45]<Immental1200> Ah...
[14:45]<Immental1200> Self hosted server
[14:45]<Immental1200> ;)
[14:46]<Immental1200> Must have for MC videos
[14:46]<@Mulreay> lol, always the salesman hey ;)
[14:46]<@Mulreay> That made no sense
[14:46]<@Mulreay> I mis-read
[14:56]<Immental1200> Wut
[15:07]<@Mulreay> I was joking that you were trying to sell me an MC server account but mis-read
[15:12]<Immental1200> Ah
[15:12]<Immental1200> We start at £4.50 a GB ;
[15:12]<Immental1200> ;)
[15:13]<@Mulreay> How many connections?
[15:15]<@Mulreay> as in online members
[15:32]<Immental1200> We do 20 per GB, but if you want we can up it
[15:32]<Immental1200> It's just our recommendation
[15:32]<Immental1200> To stop people opening 500 player servers with 2GB of RAM and complaining when it dies...
[15:36]<+camerongray> I've got a new server coming :D
[15:40]<Immental1200> Oh?
[15:45]<+camerongray> HP DL120 G7
[15:45]<+camerongray> Xeon E3-1220, 8gb RAM (Adding more), 1tb (x2)
[15:45]<+camerongray> Colocating down to Newcastle
[15:51]<Immental1200> Ooh
[15:51]<Immental1200> How much was that
[15:52]<+camerongray> £350 (Used from eBay but only a few months old)
[15:53]<Immental1200> hmm
[15:54]<@Mulreay> I was only joking camerongray when i said 'spend spend spend'
[15:57]<+camerongray> lol
[16:00]<Immental1200> You fancy donating to charity? To offset that spending? I know a good little one, the Immental1200 Foundation... helping people in need of tech ;)
[16:00]<+camerongray> lol
[16:05]<@Mulreay> OK there is no such need for so much squee http://www.wimp.com/kittenmotion/
[16:07]<Immental1200> I take that as a no ;)
[16:10]<@Mulreay> A girl just texted me: '"Thespacebuttonbrokeonmyphonecanyoupleasegivemeanalternative". Does anybody know what 'ternative' means...???
[16:12]<Immental1200> Oh. Funny.
[16:13]<@Mulreay> Not so funny to warrant a lol.. back to the drawing board
[16:15]<Immental1200> That one's been round the internet a gazillion times, try something new ;)
[16:17]<+camerongray> haha
[16:17]<@Mulreay> OK you sinicle person you try this...
[16:17]<@Mulreay> Phone call to local Chinese takeaway - £0.05
[16:17]<@Mulreay> Set menu for one - £22.50
[16:17]<@Mulreay> Petrol used to collect food - £2.20
[16:17]<@Mulreay> Getting home to discover that one of the cartons is missing from your order...
[16:17]<@Mulreay> ...Riceless...!!!
[16:17]<+camerongray> We had something like that at work - One of the guys touchscreen failed but only in the location of the "C" key - He'd moaned about it for weeks and noone had a solution
[16:17]<+camerongray> I come along - "Rotate it to landscape"
[16:17]<Immental1200> Had that one as well
[16:17]<+camerongray> Boom, damaged area moves right off the keyboard
[16:18]<Immental1200> Would anyone like to see the famous kittysaurus rex?
[16:18]<@Mulreay> OK I'm like one step away from just kicking you from the channel Immental1200 for not laughing at my jokes
[16:18]<Immental1200> http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1376598_10153349356920083_1948425895_n.jpg
[16:18]<Immental1200> I knew you would!
[16:18]<+camerongray> lol!
[16:19]<+camerongray> We have a "cieling cat" in the main computer lab at uni
[16:19]<Immental1200> Do you mean, a ceiling cat ;)
[16:19]<+camerongray> Basically someone printed a picture and stuck it under the cieling tiles
[16:19]<+camerongray> Same thing :P
[16:19]<Immental1200> Are you SURE
[16:19]<+camerongray> Then when they installed a new machine under that - They made the hostname "ceilingcat"
[16:20]<Immental1200> Oh dear
[16:20]<@Mulreay> heh nice camerongray
[16:20]<@Mulreay> SEE how that works Immental1200
[16:20]<Immental1200> Mulreay, I didn't laugh at camerongray either...
[16:20]<Immental1200> Can I be forgiven?
[16:20]<@Mulreay> I laughed!!!!
[16:21]<Immental1200> http://keep0smiling.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/you-had-one-job.html
[16:21]<@Mulreay> Can I speak to your boss Immental1200 as I will non longer take out a server sub because you don't laugh at my jokes
[16:21]<Immental1200> Oh dude...
[16:21]<Immental1200> I'm 33% director
[16:22]<@Mulreay> 33% How can you be a 3rd director
[16:22]<Immental1200> Three directors
[16:23]<Immental1200> We let the guy who started it get 34%
[16:23]<@Mulreay> I'm not having a go just wondered how that worked
[16:23]<Immental1200> I didn't think you were
[16:24]<@Mulreay> Who's the CEO then?
[16:24]<Immental1200> We could always just change the capital from say £100 to £99 and split it then... that works
[16:24]<Immental1200> Actually, as I'm not on the books with companies house, I should mention getting that done at the same time
[16:24]<Immental1200> Don't know why I didn't think of it before
[16:25]<Immental1200> CEO Would be Stuart Jarrad
[16:25]<Immental1200> I guess
[16:25]<@Mulreay> Yeah if your not mentioned in companies house then you have nothing on paper
[16:25]<Immental1200> We're doing it when the other director is in the country, we have to legally have a meeting we all attend
[16:25]<Immental1200> At the registered office
[16:26]<Immental1200> Whilst technically nobody would know if we did or didn't ... best to stick to the rules
[16:28]<@Mulreay> The government would find a way to turn you upside down without docs stating you are part of the company with no clear stakes in the company
[16:28]<Immental1200> Probably... but if you want my association, you could just talk to the 'ceo'
[16:29]<@Mulreay> And he would be fined for upto £5000
[16:29]<Immental1200> Dayum
[16:29]<Immental1200> Wait so what do I have to do / not do
[16:30]<@Mulreay> The owner has to have documents that state what your claim is to the company.. do you have an email you could PM me I will forward you a doc
[16:31]<Immental1200> I see
[16:31]<Immental1200> So, basically, just forget I said anything... and I'll say it again when we have the meeting
[16:31]<Immental1200> That works ;)
[16:37]<+camerongray> Bit of news here from Call-A-Farmer
[16:37]<Immental1200> Oh?
[16:37]<+camerongray> He had been speaking with guitar_man (Who will henceforth be referred to as 'GM', GM has no relation to Graham Mulreay :P)
[16:38]<+camerongray> Basically, GM had been raging about me saying he wanted to break my neck .etc.etc
[16:38]<+camerongray> C-A-F said that he basically told GM that if he didn't like it, to <bleep> off - And now he doesn't think that GM is coming back
[16:38]<Immental1200> Works for me...
[16:39]<Immental1200> If GM was to be civil, sure. But when he throws insults about, I'm not one for conversation with him.
[16:39]<Immental1200> Especially his fondness of swearing.
[16:39]<@Mulreay> NO MORE gm... I own gm it's me I have been here for about 6 years
[16:39]<Immental1200> You're name is Graham?
[16:40]<@Mulreay> No it's Greg
[16:40]<Immental1200> Why did Cameron say Graham Mulready then XD
[16:40]<Immental1200> Mulreay*
[16:40]<@Mulreay> He hates me
[16:41]<@Mulreay> Mulready?? WHAT... why why do you do this to me
[16:41]<+camerongray> haha
[16:41]<@Mulreay> I'm no longer sending that email.. you must hate me so much
[16:42]<+camerongray> OMG, I love Call-A-Farmer!
[16:42]<Immental1200> Jeez. Touchy
[16:42]<+camerongray> He just said this in #mibbit - <Call-A-Farmer> just looking at the chat between you and camerongray. you were being an ahole IMO
[16:42]<Immental1200> So, I opened my inbox for nothing?
[16:42]<Immental1200> It's a total pain to open that email, unlike Gmail I don't just have to press a button.
[16:43]<@Mulreay> Wow and you don't take a joke.. we seem to be at crossed purposes
[16:43]<Immental1200> Damnit.
[16:43]<Immental1200> I have no sense of humour.
[16:43]<Immental1200> You've discovered my flaw.
[16:44]<Immental1200> Well, one of my flaws.
[16:44]<Immental1200> I'll shut up, I'm making myself look bad now :/
[16:45]<@Mulreay> No need I'm hard to get most of the time
[16:45]<Immental1200> The last bit of that was intended to be ever so slightly humorous with a touch of irony ;)
[16:45]<@Mulreay> I did have a command to join computerhope.. place your ironic comments here for the name
[16:46]<Immental1200> DO_NOT_PRESS
[16:46]<Immental1200> Aww just die ChanBot please
[16:47]<@Mulreay> lol & do not press
[16:49]<@Mulreay> I'm going to town in there... I wan't some answers
[16:49]<Immental1200> I want to join and see
[16:49]<Immental1200> But the effort to open an irc client
[16:50]<@Mulreay> I will get kicked VERY soon
[16:51]<Immental1200> I need logs of this on pastebin btw
[16:51]<@Mulreay> <Mulreay> Is there any reason that people keep complaining about this channel? It makes my job harder in my channel.
[16:51]<@Mulreay> <lostcoast> yes the reason is complainers like you
[16:51]<@Mulreay> I won't post here again
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[16:55]<Immental1200> BoB.
[16:56]<@Mulreay> hey bob
[16:59]<Immental1200> What is it with people not talking :/
[16:59]<Immental1200> Come on bob
[17:00]<Immental1200> We need some decent conversation
[17:00]<Immental1200> We don't bite
[17:00]<Immental1200> Are you in Miami?
[17:00]<Immental1200> Do you like the coast?
[17:00]<@Mulreay> Give me a hug BoB
[17:00]<Immental1200> Are you lost bob?
[17:00]<BoB> never
[17:01]<Immental1200> BoB, do you know camerongray?
[17:01]<Immental1200> I've a feeling you two have met before
[17:01]<BoB> how so?
[17:01]<+camerongray> Not that i know o
[17:01]<+camerongray> of*
[17:01]<Immental1200> It's just a feeling
[17:02]<@Mulreay> haha he silenced me bob your time is limited here
[17:03]<BoB> huh
[17:03]<@Mulreay> Bob where are you from and what do you do? you have like 1min
[17:03]<BoB> i do me
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[17:04]<Immental1200> 1 min before the drugs fade and Mulreay goes back to his usual self...
[17:04]<Immental1200> We'll have to get him restrained again.
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[17:05]<@Mulreay> Loved getting blocked by that retard lostcoast on ch.. just proves how much of a retard he is and his small amount of followers.. oh and I'm saying this so you can tell him you sad junkie fukwits
[17:06]<Immental1200> You missed it.
[17:06]<Immental1200> GOD DAMN IT. You missed it.
[17:06]<Immental1200> Hopefully BoB can pass the message.
[17:06]<BoB> gotta say i dont really care
[17:06]<@Mulreay> we can hope
[17:06]<BoB> im kinda in agreeance if you must know
[17:06]<Immental1200> Oh?
[17:06]<+camerongray> Mulreay: Is moderation or something here?
[17:06]<+camerongray> gah, can't talk
[17:06]<BoB> but again i dont really care
[17:07]<+camerongray> Mulreay: Is moderation on here?
[17:07]<@Mulreay> Yes
[17:07]<+camerongray> Ahh
[17:07]<+camerongray> Call-a-farmer can't talk for some reason
[17:07]<@Mulreay> Not for him though
[17:07]<Zuwer> He ~c: banned this channel. He couldn't speak in #CH while in this channel at the same time.
[17:07]<@Mulreay> I need his hostmark
[17:08]<BoB> ok this little argue is lame
[17:08]<+camerongray> He's done that
[17:08]<+camerongray> Grr
[17:09]<Immental1200> So BoB, you're from Utah?
[17:09]<BoB> Nope
[17:09]<+camerongray> BoB: Are you a CH op, I don't hate CH but I'd really like to have a good chat
[17:09]<Zuwer> Also, 'afternoon.
[17:09]<Immental1200> Hi Zuwer, I need to get to know you, I still just sort of know you exist more than anything else :L
[17:10]<@Mulreay> There are NO reasons he cannot post
[17:10]<Zuwer> I sort of drift in and out.
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[17:11]<+camerongray> Nah, LC has channel banned #GlitchPC
[17:12]<@Mulreay> What? How the hell do you get away with that?
[17:12]<+camerongray> Nah, meaning people in here can't talk in CH or something
[17:12]<+camerongray> I can though which is odd
[17:12]<Zuwer> Solution, new channel time.
[17:13]<+camerongray> Nah, it doesn't stop this channel working
[17:13]<Zuwer> Well, no, just means anyone who wants to be in this channel and #CH will have to connect via a different session which isn't in here.
[17:13]<+camerongray> Yeah, it's not on at all
[17:14]<@Mulreay> !seen pottsi
[17:15]<Zuwer> *Shrugs*, got C-A-F telling everyone I "hate" GM, which isn't true at all, I am annoyed with his attitude at the moment.
[17:15]<@Mulreay> Why do you hate me/
[17:16]<Zuwer> Hm?
[17:16]<+camerongray> lol
[17:16]<+camerongray> Zuwer: GM is Mulreay's initials :P
[17:16]<@Mulreay> EVERYONE hates me it's really upsetting
[17:16]<+camerongray> haha
[17:16]<Zuwer> Oh haha, sorry.
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[17:18]<@Mulreay> It's public knowledge that my name is Graham Mulreay Zuwer but I do like to make a joke when that retard guitar has the same GM as me.. I'm GM not that tool
[17:20]<Zuwer> We'll have to make a new acronym for him then.
[17:22]<Zuwer> Hm, never noticed that until now, the play pause button on my keyboard works for youtube videos. Awesome. The bad part is, it also starts my music at the same time. :(
[17:22]<jamer> lol
[17:22]<jamer> hm ... time to get my phone and see about that ban list
[17:25]<jamer> yep .... he banned the channel
[17:26]<Zuwer> "He ~c: banned this channel. He couldn't speak in #CH while in this channel at the same time." ;)
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[17:30]<jamer> hd8 if your here you cant talk in CH ... just a warning
[17:30]<HD8> cut it out
[17:30]<Immental1200> Gman
[17:30]<+camerongray> HD8: who me?
[17:31]<Immental1200> New acronym
[17:31]<HD8> camerongray: no jamer
[17:31]<+camerongray> HD8: Cool
[17:31]<jamer> lostcoast channel banned here
[17:31]<Immental1200> Hd8, you've no power in here. So respect the users.
[17:31]<+camerongray> HD8: I really don't know what to do anymore apart from completely give up on helping in CH, soemthing that I have done since 2009 even with loads of bad treatment from many in the channel
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[17:32] * ChanServ sets mode: +o jacky
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[17:32]<+camerongray> Hey jacky - Might want to take a walk, having issues at the moment as per usual :P
[17:32]<@jacky> ?
[17:33]<+camerongray> Lostcoast just decided to set it so people in here can no longer chat in CH
[17:33]<@jacky> does it surprise you?
[17:33]<@jacky> heheeh
[17:33]<Immental1200> No, lostcoast is a Bastard.
[17:33]<@jacky> his ego is expanding, yet again
[17:33]<+camerongray> Of course I'm trying to post on the forum but it's hard when someone makes you so sick your hands are physically shaking
[17:33]<Immental1200> I love my phone for capitalizing that.
[17:33]<Immental1200> Love it.
[17:33]<@jacky> camerongray: I've been knowing this for what?... a few years now?
[17:33]<+camerongray> Yeah
[17:34]<@jacky> this is where I say, "told ya so"
[17:34]<+camerongray> I mean, I actually feel sick
[17:34]<@jacky> heheeh
[17:34]<@jacky> seriously... don't post anything right now
[17:34]<+camerongray> Yeah
[17:34]<@jacky> unless you have a clear reason to rush
[17:34]<Immental1200> I'm just fed up with it all
[17:34]<+camerongray> Same
[17:34]<@jacky> wait.. a day maybe
[17:34]<+camerongray> I want to help in CH, have done for years
[17:34]<+camerongray> Hmm
[17:34]<HD8> camerongray: maybe you should go relax a while
[17:34]<Immental1200> I mean, what's the point... He's driving it to the ground.
[17:34]<Zuwer> Solves everything.
[17:34]<+camerongray> HD8: I'm going to go out a walk even though it's 00:33
[17:35]<@jacky> camerongray: let me ask you this... have you ever seen the ops in that channel tell people that they cannot PM each other?
[17:35]<+camerongray> HD8: But an IRC op shouldn't treat people like that!
[17:35]<Zuwer> Take the bubble wrap.
[17:35]<+camerongray> Yeah
[17:35]<HD8> i would do something different , this is not worth getting ill over.
[17:35]<+camerongray> Yeah, I just don't get why he acts like that
[17:35]<@jacky> camerongray: which clearly means that, in his mind, he has the right to not just tell you what to do in that channel, but even elsewhere!
[17:35]<@jacky> that's utterly amazing, when you think about it
[17:35]<+camerongray> Yeah
[17:35]<@jacky> now... he's just extended it
[17:36]<@jacky> while I agree with you that it is completely wrong... it doesn't surprise me... not with people like that
[17:36]<@jacky> IRC is full of them
[17:36]<+camerongray> Yeah
[17:36]<@jacky> and the peons that worship and empower them
[17:36]<Immental1200> Lostcoast has lost his place, he's gone from someone who did alright to essentially a power hungry warmongering dictator
[17:37]<+camerongray> Calum has been discussing it on the forum as he is a mod, he gets the impression that they have completely given up on the chat
[17:37]<+camerongray> Even Nathan described lostcoast as "An ongoing issue"
[17:37]<@jacky> Immental1200: "he's gone from someone who did alright" <<< when was this?? heheeheheh
[17:37]<Immental1200> When I first came on, the first few weeks he was helpful
[17:38]<Immental1200> And a while back we talked at an ok level for about a week
[17:38]<@jacky> Immental1200: you drank the Kool-Ade, eh?
[17:38]<@jacky> hehehe
[17:38]<Immental1200> I guess so
[17:39]<Zuwer> When I first became a mod for Mibbit's "main" channels, LC seemed alright, but that was the impression from my 14 year old self. :x
[17:39]<@jacky> Immental1200: he IS nice and helpful, as long as you worship him
[17:39]<Immental1200> I rebelled hard, got a months ban first time I went against him
[17:39]<@jacky> see?
[17:39]<Immental1200> Yup
[17:40]<Immental1200> If I stop replying, I've gotten distracted with reading and facebook chats... Js
[17:43]<HD8> think i may of picked wrong time to check out this channel
[17:43]<HD8> :P
[17:43]<@jacky> heheh
[17:44]<@jacky> but you won't get banned/kicked/whatever for saying things like that
[17:44]<@jacky> :)
[17:44]<+camerongray> lol HD8
[17:44]<+camerongray> HD8: We usually talk about random crap
[17:44] * jacky is now known as random_crap
[17:44]<+camerongray> HD8: I do sometimes vent about CH, I admit that, but it's certainly not a "hate club"
[17:45] * random_crap is now known as jacky
[17:45]<@jacky> heheh
[17:46]<HD8> if this was a hate club i would be the owner,so thats not it
[17:46]<+camerongray> lol!
[17:46]<+camerongray> Oh, do you also have issues with how the channel runs
[17:46]<+camerongray> ?*
[17:46]<HD8> thought glitchpc meant just that
[17:48]<HD8> i have issues with things yes.but i go by a rule . not everything in my mind has to be said
[17:48]<@jacky> HD8: "glitchpc" is ancient egyptian for "hate club", don't ya know....
[17:48]<@jacky> <g>
[17:48]<+camerongray> lol
[17:48]<+camerongray> HD8: Yeah, I try to keep things to myself in the channel, which is why I vent in here :P
[17:48]<+camerongray> Most people would rather I didn't I imagine ;P
[17:49]<HD8> if i voiced everything i be not allowed and any channel
[17:49]<@jacky> camerongray: how am I doing? boy, I sure do miss street at times like this. He could poke fun at ANYTHING
[17:49]<HD8> on = and
[17:49]<+camerongray> Oh yeah
[17:49]<+camerongray> really miss the man
[17:52]<HD8> i will move along if i drop in and curse don't ban me if this is a good venting channel :D
[17:52]<HD8> and hi Zuwer long time no chat
[17:53]<Zuwer> 'Afternoon.
[17:53]<@jacky> HD8: bot will warn you. the sequence is warn:kick:ban and the bot is smart enough to forget your first offense after a while, so you don't get smacked with a kick if your second "offense" comes a week after the first. :)
[17:53]<HD8> i suspect you are very busy
[17:53]<+camerongray> Forum post done: http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,140599.0.html
[17:53]<Zuwer> If by busy, you mean wasting time watching Youtube videos, sure, very busy. :)
[17:54]<HD8> heh Zuwer :)
[17:54]<+camerongray> Now how am I meant to sleep!
[17:55]<HD8> glad there is a mod here anyway ,to keep an eye on things Zuwer
[17:56]<HD8> have a good one all going back to the abuse
[17:56]<+camerongray> I could seriously cry right now
[17:56]<Zuwer> Someone is meant to keep an eye on things, I was here for the free cookies. :x
[17:56]<HD8> right
[17:57]<HD8> camerongray go watch cloudy with a chance of meatballs and chill...i would
[17:57]<+camerongray> lol
[17:57]<+camerongray> It's almost 1am :P
[17:57]<+camerongray> And I have a tutorial at 10am
[17:57]<HD8> oh go to bed then
[17:58]<Zuwer> Heaps of time. Watch it.
[17:58]<Zuwer> :P
[17:58]<+camerongray> Yeah, need to calm down to sleep though LP
[17:58]<+camerongray> :P*
[17:59]<+camerongray> To be fair, I'm almost tempted to completely give up on CH completely - Just a real shame for something that I started in 2009 and I can actually say it has completely changed my life
[18:00]<@jacky> camerongray: I've read your post
[18:00]<+camerongray> and?
[18:00]<@jacky> camerongray: want to bet what happens next?
[18:01]<+camerongray> He replies being himself?
[18:01]<HD8> well hope you feel better and i would let things calm down, never let it get too personal
[18:01]<+camerongray> Yeah, That is my one issue
[18:01]<@jacky> you will get some replies, telling you that you are wrong. whatever the op says is from God himself. you should quit whining. you should go to another channel.
[18:01]<+camerongray> I get really worked up and have panic attacks over stupid things
[18:01]<+camerongray> jacky: Yeah
[18:01]<@jacky> typical IRC worship stuff. said with no brain and no thought
[18:01]<+camerongray> Calum will get it though, I even sent him a link over Facebook
[18:01]<HD8> i would turn the pc off before that happens
[18:01]<+camerongray> He'll be furious I imagine
[18:01]<@jacky> which always amazes me, when it comes from some people that are really not that stupid
[18:02]<@jacky> anyway.. that's my prediction
[18:02]<+camerongray> I can see this as a tipping point though - Calum has got a lot of weight to throw around (Don't take that out of context) and is really pushing to get something done
[18:02]<@jacky> camerongray: you can take some comfort, in that you tried.
[18:02]<+camerongray> Yeah
[18:03]<HD8> l8rz all dont stab me to hard after i leave :) peace
[18:03]<+camerongray> Nah, you are a good guy
[18:03]<@jacky> HD8: take care. drop by anytime
[18:03]<HD8> will do jacky :) thanks camerongray
[18:03]<HD8> cya
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[18:03]<+camerongray> Calum threw his hands up and gave up on the channel right when lostcoast started going a bit out of control removing voices, just started coming back recently
[18:04]<+camerongray> So he does want something done, and he is a forum mod
[18:04]<@jacky> oh.. that's right. I remember something abou tthat
[18:04]<+camerongray> The issue is that nowadays, people join the channel and ask for me because I helped them before - That is going to be difficult now
[18:04]<@jacky> when LC basically "took over" , said that there would never be anybody but him as op... fast forward a while, and now he has a legion of op/worshippers there. right?
[18:05]<+camerongray> Yeah
[18:05]<@jacky> here is the real question: are these type of people attracted to IRC, or does IRC make them into assholes?
[18:05]<@jacky> heheheheehe
[18:05]<+camerongray> lol
[18:06]<+camerongray> I'm serious though, #CH and later #GlitchPC actually have changed my life
[18:06]<+camerongray> Now to not end up making this into an emotional story :P
[18:06]<@jacky> :)
[18:06]<+camerongray> lol!
[18:07]<@jacky> camerongray: everything, everyday, changes your life. Your life is the sum total up to now, of all you've experienced. The trick is in how much you let each thing have an effect. The trick is to keep the proper perspective and perception
[18:08]<@jacky> easy to write
[18:08]<+camerongray> lol yeah
[18:08]<@jacky> not so easy to do
[18:08]<+camerongray> CH was the big one though
[18:08]<@jacky> just wait till you you are about triple your current age. Ever heard of "baggage"?
[18:08]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[18:08]<@jacky> it comes along with experience
[18:08]<@jacky> the good with the bad... sigh
[18:09]<+camerongray> Back before then I was the typical guy sitting playing on the computer, didn't really have many friends if I'm honest - I eventually got a Netbook for my 15th birthday I think and my parents finally actually let me use the internet on my own computer - I then found CH
[18:10]<+camerongray> But I mean, talking here really gave me somthing to do :P
[18:10]<@jacky> you should explore more of IRC. some places are MUCH worse
[18:10]<+camerongray> lol yeah
[18:10]<@jacky> this channel is pretty good... reasonable people
[18:10]<+camerongray> Yeah
[18:10]<+camerongray> That's what really helped me
[18:10]<@jacky> that's a Good Thing
[18:11]<+camerongray> Of course after that I did start to make more friends - And I'm a very happy person now :P
[18:11]<@jacky> awwww
[18:11]<+camerongray> Wow this is turning into the sort of thing you would see in a local newspaper on a slow news day
[18:11]<@jacky> try Jack Daniels. THEN you'll be real happy
[18:11]<@jacky> heh
[18:11]<+camerongray> "Guy is made happy by IRC"
[18:11]<+camerongray> hehe, yuck :P
[18:11]<@jacky> oh.. that's right... forgot
[18:11]<+camerongray> I know, I know, a Scot that doesn't like whiskey
[18:11]<@jacky> for you, Glen Levit(sp)
[18:12]<+camerongray> hehe
[18:12]<@jacky> did I come close, in spelling?
[18:12]<+camerongray> Then again, I do like Scottish beer
[18:12]<@jacky> I can't even afford to spell it correctly. heh
[18:12]<+camerongray> Looks over and spots Budweiser - Oh :P
[18:13]<+camerongray> To be fair, that's all they had in the shop :P
[18:13]<@jacky> Bud?
[18:13]<@jacky> ah well... after 6, the all taste the same
[18:13]<+camerongray> haha!
[18:13]<@jacky> (see above, about "experience" )
[18:13]<@jacky> hehehe
[18:13]<+camerongray> I work with a beer snob type person :P
[18:13]<@jacky> barf on his shoes sometime
[18:14]<+camerongray> Go to the pub after work - "Do you like that, can you taste the..." - Meh... tastes like beer
[18:14]<@jacky> did you miss my above?
[18:14]<+camerongray> lol
[18:14]<@jacky> I figured that would crack you up
[18:14]<@jacky> hehehe
[18:14]<+camerongray> hehe yeah
[18:14]<+camerongray> I'm not the one that gets drunk :P
[18:15]<+camerongray> In some ways, this is actually quite good not being able to help in CH - I was thinking the other day that I was spending far too much time there
[18:15]<@jacky> you've practiced enough to be able to handle it, eh?
[18:15]<+camerongray> hehe
[18:15]<+camerongray> Someone ran that script that makes a funny report on a channel log (Forgot what it was called) and I was the person who spoke the most lines
[18:16]<+camerongray> At least not being able to talk will FORCE me to spend less time in there
[18:17]<@jacky> actually, it is not a case of not being able to talk
[18:17]<@jacky> that is just the effect, for now
[18:17]<@jacky> if you leave, you won't be able to rejoin
[18:18]<@jacky> we might have stats here... I can't remember what all I've done to the bot
[18:18]<@jacky> I don't see it...
[18:18]<+camerongray> Nah, I can rejoin
[18:18]<+camerongray> Just did with a Mibbit client
[18:18]<+camerongray> Just muted
[18:19]<Immental1200> Cameron, for you, I'll finish ny report and get it to Nathan soon as. I knew you felt strongly, didn't realise it was this strongly.
[18:19]<@jacky> camerongray: I'm surprised. bu tok
[18:19]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah :P
[18:19]<+camerongray> Immental1200: Thanks that's great
[18:19]<+camerongray> Mind sending me what you have so far to take a quick look? Or is it a secret work of art? :P
[18:19]<@jacky> camerongray: with the mibbit client, you were not in this channel though... right?
[18:20]<+camerongray> I was yeah
[18:20]<@jacky> which chan did you join first?
[18:20]<@jacky> :)
[18:20]<+camerongray> No idea, I just told mibbit to join both
[18:20]<Immental1200> I've probably overhyped it a little, you'll need to read it before I send it
[18:20]<@jacky> camerongray: ok
[18:20]<+camerongray> Cool, I'd love to take a look
[18:20]<+camerongray> Calum has also posted in the mod section
[18:21]<+camerongray> One of the lines was "Quite frankly, db100547 is a terrible op"
[18:21]<Zuwer> Pro tip: Always use hyperboles for extra effect.
[18:22]<Immental1200> It's gone 1am what the hell is a hyperbole
[18:22]<+camerongray> Eep "camerongray, patio, db100547, WillyW (+ 1 Hidden) and 5 Guests are viewing this topic."
[18:22]<+camerongray> I got a C in Higher English - I can spell reel good
[18:22]<@jacky> who is that WillyW guy?
[18:22]<+camerongray> ha!
[18:22]<@jacky> sounds like some kind of idiot....
[18:22]<Immental1200> He is
[18:23]<+camerongray> Out of interest, why is your nick yellow?
[18:23]<Immental1200> Mine?
[18:23]<+camerongray> Nah, jacky
[18:23]<Immental1200> Oh.
[18:23]<@jacky> beats me
[18:23]<+camerongray> jacky: On the forum that i
[18:23]<+camerongray> is*
[18:23]<@jacky> I've been branded!!
[18:23]<+camerongray> loL!
[18:23]<@jacky> you are all cursed, just because you talk to me
[18:24]<@jacky> should I make all my posts like this from now on?
[18:24]<+camerongray> haha!
[18:24]<+camerongray> MY EYES!
[18:24]<@jacky> har
[18:24]<Immental1200> His is black for me, as is everyone in the channel
[18:24]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, forgot about some uni work I needed to sort :P
[18:24]<@jacky> is this better
[18:24]<Immental1200> Yes
[18:24]<@jacky> heh
[18:24]<Immental1200> But still
[18:24]<Immental1200> No
[18:24]<+camerongray> Immental1200: Nah, meaning on the forum where it says that he is viewing the topic
[18:24]<Zuwer> White and bright yellow. D:
[18:24]<Immental1200> :P
[18:25]<@jacky> maybe this?
[18:25]<@jacky> well.. I'm about to be leaving myself
[18:25]<@jacky> prepare to talk about me
[18:25]<@jacky> y'all ready?
[18:25]<+camerongray> Oh yeah - Zuwer, what channel do you pick now? :P
[18:25]<+camerongray> Same with all the others here actually
[18:26]<Zuwer> Hm?
[18:26]<Zuwer> Channel?
[18:26]<+camerongray> Here or CH
[18:26]<@jacky> see you all later. I'll get an update on "As The Worm Turns" tomorrow, won't I?
[18:26]<@jacky> :)
[18:26]<@jacky> 
[18:26]<Immental1200> Link me the post by calum
[18:26]<Immental1200> I'm on my phone
[18:26]<+camerongray> It's in the mod section
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[18:26]<Zuwer> Definitely here with this session. Probably set up another session just for #CH. :P
[18:27]<+camerongray> Ahh nice
[18:27]<+camerongray> There, uni work done
[18:27]<Immental1200> My phones keyboard is lagging, please link it
[18:27]<+camerongray> Never have I had so much fun - Infinite and countable/uncountable sets of numbers
[18:28]<+camerongray> Immental1200: Can't see it, it's in the secret mod section
[18:28]<Immental1200> As fa as fast.as I Cantu it would appear that th Whois little phone cont keep p with my typing an o normal laws witjou correcting tens
[18:28]<+camerongray> lol!
[18:28]<Immental1200> See, that's what happens if I type at normal speed
[18:28]<Immental1200> Phones totally Buggered.
[18:28]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[18:28]<+camerongray> This is the sort of "maths" that is the really strange stuff that sounds like it can't possibly be correct but can be proven to be correct
[18:28]<Zuwer> My old old phone was like that, I could type faster on the slide out keyboard than the phone could handle. :/
[18:29]<+camerongray> Nexus 4 here so no problems :P
[18:29]<Immental1200> This can usually handle it, I'm getting issue and it needs a reset I think
[18:29]<+camerongray> Ahh
[18:29]<Zuwer> My new phone handles it fine, I just can't type fast enough on a touch screen. D:
[18:30]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[18:30]<Zuwer> If only I hadn't dropped my Xperia Mini Pro in a puddle, although the phone itself was slow, I liked the slide out qwerty keyboard, and it kept up with my typing too.
[18:31]<+camerongray> Ahh
[18:31]<+camerongray> What do you have now?
[18:32]<Zuwer> S3 Mini, big regret going Samsung, I really wish I had remembered about the Nexus 4 before buying it. :s
[18:32]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[18:33]<Zuwer> I mean, the phone itself is nice, just don't like what Samsung has done to the OS.
[18:33]<+camerongray> Yeah, that's why I'm only Nexus
[18:34]<+camerongray> Oh wow, Peter Higgs got a Nobel Prize
[18:34]<Immental1200> I want the HTC one, but HTC zoe looks so shit
[18:35]<+camerongray> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Higgs - Notice the first institution in the right hand box under the photo :D
[18:35]<Immental1200> That and a 4mp camera, sure its a good camera but really, just 4mp? My 8mp isn't always big enough now...
[19:16]<+camerongray> <db100547> homestead67_: i have halfop status , as and when i deem it required , but not full OP status . here anyway .
[19:16]<+camerongray> "here anyway" to make him sound like an op elsewhere - He isn't in any other IRC channels that I have ever seen!
[19:17]<+camerongray> "<db100547> homestead67_: I wouldn;t want full op,. even if they offered it ,( but probably wouldn't) as due to the work it do , i can get called for immediate consultation on some issue , and generally , that means i have to log out here fast .... security issues." - Because full op works like that
[19:19]<@BC_Programming> BAHAHA
[19:20]<+camerongray> I take it you saw what happened?
[19:20]<@BC_Programming> You mean gman? or was this after
[19:20]<@BC_Programming> not scrolled back yet
[19:20]<+camerongray> Lostcoast has banned GlitchPC members from CH
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[19:20]<+camerongray> As in if I'm in here, I can't talk in CH
[19:20]<@BC_Programming> huh
[19:20]<+camerongray> His response was to leave here
[19:20]<@BC_Programming> who?
[19:20]<+camerongray> lostcoast
[19:21]<+camerongray> People in this channel can no longer say anything in CH
[19:21]<+camerongray> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,140599.msg892145.html#new
[19:21]<@BC_Programming> what do you mean "leave her" though
[19:21]<@BC_Programming> here*
[19:21]<+camerongray> here*
[19:21]<+camerongray> Ahh
[19:21]<+camerongray> In order to speak in CH I have to leave this channel
[19:21]<+camerongray> Lostcoast seems to think that it will make me stop coming here (Which it won't) and this he stops the non-existsant 'hate club'
[19:22]<+camerongray> thus*
[19:22]<+camerongray> I beg you to reply to that thread
[19:23]<+camerongray> Of course I've also told Calum - Nathan's inbox is full as per usual, but hopefully Calum will pass the message along
[19:23]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[19:23]<@BC_Programming> well
[19:23]<@BC_Programming> since this affects me now
[19:23]<@BC_Programming> guess I can't hold back :P
[19:23]<+camerongray> Yay!
[19:23]<@BC_Programming> I replied to Immental's thread, that could be what triggered LC to do that
[19:23]<+camerongray> Hmm yeah
[19:24]<+camerongray> I'm off to bed as I've finally stopped shaking from all this - But I look forward to reading your response tomorrow - First thing I'll do!
[19:24]<@BC_Programming> though it's a bit ironic since I was quite clear that they can ban for whatever reason they like, it's just better if they are honest and don't make things up
[19:25]<+camerongray> Yeah
[19:25]<+camerongray> He's really just going over the top now - He has no control over what other channels people are in
[19:26]<+camerongray> Anyway, I'm off, can't wait to see what you say!
[19:26]<+camerongray> I'll open the thread on my phone so when I wake up I'll see it!
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