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Session Start: Thu Sep 26 05:58:21 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [05:58] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[05:58] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[09:47]<PCdoc> lol glitch found in gtalk
[09:48]<PCdoc> http://www.zdnet.com/google-hangoutsgtalk-glitch-sends-chats-to-wrong-recipients-7000021195/
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[11:25]<Craig_Remote> Hello everyone how goes it today?
[11:26]<@BC_Programming> hey Craig
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[11:26]<Craig-Work> How are you doing today?
[11:27]<@BC_Programming> can't complain
[11:32]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/misc/other/updaterx.png << What I've been working on
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[11:49]<+camerongray> Hey Calum
[11:50]<@Calum> hey camerongray
[11:50]<@BC_Programming> oh great well so much for the party
[11:50]<+camerongray> lol
[11:52] * Calum is now known as partypooper
[11:52]<+camerongray> haha
[11:52]<@BC_Programming> SO ytou reveal your true form
[11:55]<@BC_Programming> Is there no end to your cruelty
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[11:59]<@partypooper> that was me as well
[12:01]<@BC_Programming> lol
[12:01]<@BC_Programming> we're dropping like flies
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[12:11]<+camerongray> Ahh, Geek-9pm... :P
[12:12]<@Calum> time for the banhammer? please say yes
[12:12]<+camerongray> Calum: It's that thread you commented on when he's like "xeons :'("
[12:12]<@Calum> ah hah yeah, what was that all about?
[12:12]<+camerongray> Lol
[12:12]<@Calum> made no sense at all
[12:12]<+camerongray> Put him and DB in a battle - DB insists that all servers, even home NAS ones should be Xeon
[12:12]<@Calum> at first I thought maybe he meant they were like the ancient P4 based Xeons or something, but no...
[12:13]<+camerongray> Yeah, I replied, exact same as my server
[12:13]<@Calum> I thought it was
[12:14]<@BC_Programming> I find Dave a bit annoying... not NEARLY as annoying as geek though
[12:14]<@Calum> I hedged my bets a bit saying I had heard good things heh, wasn't too specific
[12:14]<@BC_Programming> just in the "holy crap get to the point" way
[12:14]<@Calum> he sure does type a lot, on like every single post
[12:14]<+camerongray> Yeah
[12:14]<+camerongray> Dave being Mr Dunce?
[12:14]<@BC_Programming> heh
[12:14]<@BC_Programming> I do like the parts where he tries to say he "knows" C#/C++/etc
[12:15]<@BC_Programming> when all he does is basically invoke cmd commands from them
[12:15]<@Calum> he does at least usually have a point when he posts, unlike some
[12:15]<@Calum> ah I know nothing about programming so I'll defer on those
[12:15]<@BC_Programming> yeah geek-9pm is hard to follow and ALWAYS inserts completely irrelevant posts in otherwise serious threads
[12:15]<+camerongray> Or Dave "Imma run an IBM PC"?
[12:16]<+camerongray> ruin*
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[12:16]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[12:16]<Immental1200> BC_Programming... perhaps in the update stick the speed into a seperate column, and use a different font when it's over the progress bars.
[12:16]<Immental1200> :P
[12:16]<Immental1200> updater*
[12:16]<+camerongray> Then there's some UK guy - Rob something-or-other
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> all his posts feel like reading his life story... a thread about how he built a new PC would probaby talk about how he first used an Apple II or something
[12:16]<@Calum> camerongray: rob pomeroy?
[12:16]<+camerongray> Yeah
[12:17]<@Calum> BC_Programming: yeah exactly
[12:17]<Immental1200> I've seen him like twice and he's annoying.
[12:17]<+camerongray> Think he knows his stuff but comes across like a complete smartarse a lot of the time
[12:17]<+camerongray> Like when geek was asking about hosting a blog and he's insisting to host from home
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[12:17]<Immental1200> Has he got like dialup? ;)
[12:17]<@Calum> Rob is an old member, he's not around all that much nowadays is he? I am thinking of the right guy?
[12:17]<+camerongray> Hey Cassie
[12:17]<+camerongray> Calum: He was a couple of months ago
[12:18]<@Calum> ah right, yeah I saw a few of his posts not too long ago, didn't seem as helpful as he was "back in the day" from what I remember
[12:18]<WonderWoman> Hey Cameron :)
[12:18]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, and Geek's amazing discovery of those 'legacy' PCs
[12:18]<@Calum> I facepalmed hard on that
[12:19]<+camerongray> This is what I was thinking of: http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,138604.msg885951.html#msg885951
[12:19]<+camerongray> "Atom-based - so we're looking at a nettop or something similar running off a power brick?" - Answer.... no.
[12:19]<+camerongray> "You'd be drawing a maximum of 5A - let's say a generous 100W" - Again... 38w :P
[12:19]<@BC_Programming> Immental1200: I'll probably leave it as is, ETA is going in a separate column though. I assume you mean font colour, no easy way to do that and the themed progress bar isn't going to be black so the text will have enough contrast anyway.
[12:20]<+camerongray> "Cost per KWh is in the order of 15p or so in the UK, but let's say 20p." - Err... 12p
[12:20]<@Calum> in other words "here's a figure, let's just exaggerate it hugely anyway"
[12:20]<+camerongray> Then he tries to compare that to a rackspace VPS where rackspace is always expensive :P
[12:20]<+camerongray> Whereas Geek just wants to host a blog, something the cheapest shared hosting can do!
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> yeah mine is like 2.99
[12:21]<@BC_Programming> that's going to be cheaper than having pretty much any machine on 24/7 as well as the right connection
[12:21]<+camerongray> Yeah, even like Gandi is £4/mo for really good shared hosting, my Atom server costs over £5/mo in power
[12:21]<+camerongray> And can get a VPS even cheaper now
[12:22]<@BC_Programming> technically my host charges 3.99 now but I get 2.99 I think because that was the price when I first signed up
[12:22]<@Calum> mine is 2.99 I think although I still haven't got it :(
[12:22]<Immental1200> No, I actually meant the font. It's not too nice on my eyes... also, there's a scrollbar :P
[12:22]<+camerongray> lol
[12:22]<Immental1200> What power do you get for 2.99 / 3.99
[12:22]<@Calum> they oversold hugely and they still haven't caught up
[12:22]<Immental1200> Who?
[12:22]<@Calum> OVH
[12:22]<+camerongray> Just a picked up a VPS for FlatNet (Calum doesn't know about that yet :P) - 256mb RAM, 10gb SSD, 100mbps port and 1tb BW for £24/year!
[12:22]<Immental1200> Yeah.
[12:23]<Immental1200> We're getting our 2G this weekend supposedly...
[12:23]<@Calum> that's not too bad camerongray
[12:23]<@Calum> Immental1200: when did you order yours?
[12:23]<+camerongray> Yeah, and cheaper than my Atom box
[12:23]<@BC_Programming> The font in the progress-bar is the system default
[12:23]<Immental1200> We're in touch with the CEO, we have over 20 servers... and a hell of a lot of pro use and extra addons. Erm, I think just before they sold out... but we're possibly higher priority than others.
[12:24]<@Calum> ah right, I've been waiting since like 27th July or thereabouts
[12:24]<@Calum> I know some people have been waiting a few days longer
[12:24]<Immental1200> Yeah... and we get ours like this weekend / monday... dayum. We really skipped a queue.
[12:24]<@Calum> their forums are full of people complaining, 2 months is a pretty ridiculous wait time
[12:25]<Immental1200> We've got several pros, a few of the older ones... and we've picked up like five of the new mSPs.
[12:25]<Immental1200> We actually got a little annoyed and grabbed some stuff off fasthost as well.
[12:25]<Immental1200> Wait. No. God no not fasthost.
[12:25]<@Calum> thinking of just canceling mine to be honest...don't really have any confidence in them after this, especially as they haven't even contacted us about our hugely delayed orders so the only reason I know is from checking their forum
[12:26]<+camerongray> Calum: Their support sucks but the servers are great
[12:26]<Immental1200> I got an email from the director of sales or something... I've got a link for you...
[12:26]<+camerongray> If it breaks they are very quick, but for smaller questions they can take a while
[12:26]<Immental1200> Ha... if it breaks they are quick...
[12:26]<Immental1200> On anything mSP and higher sure.
[12:27]<Immental1200> We waited 10 days for a HDD replacement on a kimsufi
[12:27]<+camerongray> Ahh yaeh
[12:28]<Immental1200> I had a dodgy stick of RAM in a RAIDSoft one... I think 40 mins? And they fixed the issue when it dropped off the network with IP issues in about 10 minutes...
[12:28]<Immental1200> Literally as I picked up the phone to phone and say hey I just broke something, RDP connected and I got an email informing me of an intervention
[12:28]<+camerongray> If you could get decent upload connections on home broadband I'd probably host from home, but not when the best I can get is 10mbps up
[12:28]<Immental1200> If giving a HyperV system it's own IP... ensure you actually have enough free IPs on the server...
[12:29]<Immental1200> We lost the network on the core Windows Server, it took out three VMs.
[12:29]<Immental1200> :D
[12:31]<+camerongray> Calum: Got my new IRC host! http://flat.camerongray.me/~camerong/public/photos/Mull.jpg
[12:31]<@Calum> nice!
[12:34]<Immental1200> I still giggle.
[12:34]<Immental1200> Only you would have chosen a pi for that.
[12:34]<+camerongray> What else would I use :P
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[12:37]<Immental1200> The atom? ;)
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[12:40]<+camerongray> Nah :P
[12:40]<+camerongray> Wasn't using the Pi for anything else so thought why not :P
[12:42]<Immental1200> People frustrate me so much.
[12:43]<Immental1200> 'hi i can't access my site' 'we're having issues with two nameservers being down, please ensure you have all four of our nameservers set to fix this *gives nameservers*' 'so, when will it be back? its still not back!'
[12:43]<Immental1200> And then you check the domain, and funnily enough they've not added the other nameservers.
[12:44]<+camerongray> lol
[12:46]<+camerongray> Got another flat connected to FlatNet :P
[12:46]<Immental1200> How much do they pay?
[12:46]<+camerongray> Nothing :P
[12:46]<+camerongray> It's for friends!
[12:47]<+camerongray> Well, they pay in contributing services :P
[12:47]<@Calum> don't suppose anyone here is interested in a pair of 1366 Xeons at all? camerongray I know you like to buy my old stuff, come on... ;)
[12:47]<@Calum> oops sorry didn't mean to interrupt, totally wasn't keeping up in here hah
[12:47]<+camerongray> lol, if only I had a board :P
[12:47]<+camerongray> How's your new PC getting on actually?
[12:48]<Immental1200> Be more specific... which xeons?
[12:48]<@Calum> don't let a silly thing like that stop you, sure you could find one!
[12:48]<@Calum> pair of L5520's
[12:48]<Immental1200> Ooh.
[12:48]<Immental1200> How much are you after...
[12:48]<@Calum> camerongray: new PC, I have all my parts at last, just waiting on time to build it
[12:48]<+camerongray> :D
[12:49]<@Calum> Immental1200: make me an offer if you fancy them, having a bit of trouble shifting them to be honest
[12:49]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: you need a xeon to run a server, you can't use the raspberry pi
[12:49]<+camerongray> haha
[12:49]<+camerongray> And my atom one is clearly a nettop :P
[12:49]<@Calum> one xeon = server, 2 xeons = betterer
[12:49]<WonderWoman> All the parts you have indeed! The flat is officially computer invested!
[12:49]<+camerongray> hahha
[12:49]<@Calum> it is
[12:49]<+camerongray> WonderWoman: I'm worse :P
[12:49]<WonderWoman> No your not!
[12:49]<+camerongray> Just set this up: http://flat.camerongray.me/~camerong/public/photos/FlatNet%20Rack.JPG
[12:49]<WonderWoman> Have you seen our "bedroom"
[12:50]<WonderWoman> it's just a computer room
[12:50]<Immental1200> Is that a Proliant? And a UPS?
[12:50]<+camerongray> haha
[12:50]<WonderWoman> You and Calum living together would be just crazy!
[12:50]<+camerongray> UPS yeah, but custom server
[12:50]<WonderWoman> You would have servers as beds
[12:50]<+camerongray> hahaa!
[12:50]<@Calum> I also have a pair of L5640s but I think one is slightly dodgy, they don't like working together but they work separately
[12:51]<+camerongray> Well, me and a group of friends have networked our flats together to make 'FlatNet' :P
[12:51]<+camerongray> And we now have an intranet hosting an internal FlatNet Wiki :P http://flat.camerongray.me/~camerong/public/photos/FlatNet%20Wiki.png
[12:51]<Immental1200> Calum... I shall talk to my friend Stuart... I'm pretty sure his Dells are 1366
[12:52]<WonderWoman> If only Calum lived near by, he would be right up for FlatNet.
[12:52]<+camerongray> haha yeh
[12:52]<Immental1200> VPN :P
[12:52]<+camerongray> It's purely "because we can"
[12:52]<WonderWoman> Has Calum told you about all the laptops that my dad collected for him?
[12:52]<@Calum> Immental1200: that's cool. Like I say, not after a huge amount for the 5520s, and if he was interested in the 5640s they'd be very cheap. Not 100% sure what the problem is with them
[12:53]<+camerongray> He said he had got them or was getting them :P
[12:53]<+camerongray> What happened.... :D
[12:53]<@Calum> camerongray: you have a wiki and an intranet? I want.
[12:53]<Immental1200> He's got an identical pair of Dell servers.. so we'd probably get the 5520's but not the 5640's together if they don't like each other.
[12:53]<+camerongray> haha
[12:53]<WonderWoman> Well my dad went to collect them!! there was not 7 laptops to collect like i told my poor dad! there was 15 and he had to travel 2 and a half hours back home with them!
[12:54]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[12:54]<+camerongray> What were they like?
[12:54]<@Calum> Immental1200: fair enough
[12:54]<Immental1200> WonderWoman... if you want to send anything you don't want my way... I'll keep it company XD
[12:54]<@Calum> no no no
[12:54]<WonderWoman> Umm, smashed screens, laptops that don't open. umm, lots of broken laptops.
[12:54]<@Calum> all the computers are belong to me
[12:54]<+camerongray> haha
[12:55]<WonderWoman> Well Calum has a few servers he could send :P
[12:55]<@BC_Programming> calum you need to learn to share
[12:55]<+camerongray> Yep, I have one :P
[12:55]<WonderWoman> Calums too autistic to share :)
[12:55]<+camerongray> Well, my friend has one
[12:55]<@BC_Programming> that's how relationships work, what's yours is hers and what is hers is still hers
[12:56]<+camerongray> Should be going out to the uni soon
[12:56]<@Calum> BC_Programming: ain't that the truth...
[12:56]<+camerongray> Just need to get a server sized bit of wood to rackmount it :D
[12:56]<WonderWoman> No it doesn't work like that here!
[12:56]<@BC_Programming> they always deny it
[12:56]<WonderWoman> I said i'd share my rover! :)
[12:56]<Immental1200> I had a poweredge...
[12:56]<Immental1200> Got it for 99p plus £11 postage
[12:57]<Immental1200> Sold parts of it for £30 then the remainder as a whole system for £90
[12:57]<Immental1200> Heheheh
[12:57]<@Calum> hehe nice
[12:57]<Immental1200> Was too loud to run in my house anyway
[12:57]<Immental1200> Even after I modified the fans
[12:58]<@Calum> I have 10 NEC servers sitting in a pile in the other room waiting for me to put some time into them
[12:58]<Immental1200> Ew... http://fbtrouble.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/a98329_out-order-sign_4-bathroom.jpg
[12:59]<@BC_Programming> I have 5 pizza boxes sitting here telling me I eat too much pizza
[12:59]<Immental1200> Calum... where are you?
[12:59]<@Calum> Derby
[13:00]<Immental1200> Ha... I have an ex over there...
[13:01]<@BC_Programming> I keep all my x's in the alphabet
[13:01]<@Calum> heh, whereabouts are you?
[13:01]<Immental1200> Wiltshire... near Bath.
[13:01]<Immental1200> Amusing BC
[13:01]<Immental1200> :P
[13:01]<@Calum> Ah right
[13:02]<+camerongray> Oh I've been to Bath
[13:02]<+camerongray> And Derby
[13:02]<@Calum> I've been to Bath a few times
[13:02]<WonderWoman> I'm glad you have been to bath guys... otherwise you'd stink
[13:02]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[13:03]<+camerongray> Calum: You should come up to Edinburgh :P
[13:03]<Immental1200> It's like.. 20 mins on the train from me otherwise.
[13:03]<WonderWoman> he should!
[13:03]<Immental1200> otherwise... what was i typing... ish*
[13:03]<WonderWoman> I want to go... we need to go calum
[13:03]<@Calum> Edinburgh is so far away
[13:03]<WonderWoman> No it's not... :)
[13:03]<+camerongray> Should have come during the fesival
[13:04]<+camerongray> New year/christmas is good too
[13:04]<Immental1200> I have another ex in Edinburgh and one of my grandparents is from Edinburgh... never been though.
[13:04]<Immental1200> xD
[13:04]<+camerongray> Just don't stand in the middle of the street taking pictures with an iPad, place is full of *those people* during the festival
[13:04]<@Calum> padholes
[13:04]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[13:05]<@Calum> we took a few pictures of padholes the other day actually
[13:05]<@BC_Programming> yeah clearly they should be using android
[13:05]<WonderWoman> Calum loves taking pictures of padholes
[13:05]<@Calum> or, you know...a camera...
[13:05]<@Calum> http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=padhole
[13:06]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[13:06]<+camerongray> Yeah, we take photos of them at work :P
[13:06]<+camerongray> Bit of a running joke
[13:07]<Immental1200> We get loads of them in Bath...
[13:07]<+camerongray> We were going out for the company's birthday during the festival - One of the guys drew an iPad on a bit cardboard and stood next to people who were taking photos with iPads :P
[13:07]<Immental1200> Especially Chinese people, they LOVE using iPads.
[13:07]<+camerongray> They take photos of absolutely ridiculous things here!
[13:07]<Immental1200> Not stereotyping or stuff.. 'tis the truth
[13:08]<Immental1200> We have all the old Roman stonework and then the baths... plus Bath is a pretty beautiful place if you take out the people....
[13:08]<@BC_Programming> no they use iPuds
[13:08]<+camerongray> Yeah, same here
[13:09]<+camerongray> But you seriously get tourists standing in front of this: http://www.edinburgh.org/images/articles/3750553/edinburgh-castle where there is a bagpiper right behind them, and they are taking a photo of a bin, or maybe a bus stop
[13:09]<@Calum> hah
[13:09]<@Calum> padholes
[13:09]<@Calum> always the same
[13:09]<+camerongray> Tourists in general :P
[13:09]<+camerongray> "How do I bus"
[13:09]<Immental1200> camerongray ... so yeah, I just stalked your photos folder :P
[13:09]<+camerongray> lol yeah :P
[13:10]<+camerongray> Get on, put £10 in the slot then rage at the fact they don't get change despite "Exact fare only" being printed all over the place!
[13:10]<Immental1200> Oh Jesus Christ, what is it with non uk / us customers trying to pay via western union. It adds nearly 50% onto what you're buying from us! Why the hell are you so stupid.
[13:10]<+camerongray> I need to clear that folder out, full of stuff I've sent over IRC or email :P
[13:11]<Immental1200> Not many photos in it
[13:11]<+camerongray> Yeah, it's not all my photos, just ones I've sent to someone
[13:11]<+camerongray> Hence why most are computer related (Sent to people on here)
[13:14]<Immental1200> Does anyone want a job dealing with support tickets from imbeciles? I'll tell you what to put, so long as you translate their gobbledeygook requests into English and can reply without smashing your head into the keyboard repeatedly.
[13:15]<@Calum> I already do that
[13:15]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, the classic with tourists the other day... Was on the bus - American guy comes on "Let me know when you get to 145 Grassmarket" get to grassmarket and driver calls the passengers Passenger: "Where is 145" "It's up there somewhere" Passenger then starts to complain that it was far away from the bus stop and that it was not fair
[13:15]<+camerongray> It's a bus, not a taxi! :P
[13:15]<@Calum> lol
[13:32]<+camerongray> *cries*
[13:32]<+camerongray> Put my pizza in the oven, timer went off, went back into kitchen, turned out I had had a brain fart and turned the oven off instead of the light
[13:33]<@BC_Programming> haha somebody was saying "Java was a bad programming language because it is a gateway language to C#, and we all know what happens to C# programmers"
[13:33]<@BC_Programming> one of the replies is "They get paid well, and have a long happy career using a IDE that doesn't suck?"
[13:33]<+camerongray> haha!
[13:33]<+camerongray> What was that person saying they should use?
[13:33]<+camerongray> As guitar_man would say, Java is C# Prelude
[13:34]<Immental1200> Do you know of anything that is essentially a Windows Embedded thin client, but has the option to run stuff locally whenever it hasn't got a connection... and automatically switches between the two without the end user knowing anything has happened.
[13:34]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: they didn't say, but presumably C and C++ like most elitist douchebags suggests
[13:35]<+camerongray> We all know one of those guys
[13:35]<+camerongray> And I hate him so much, OMG he just needs to go away...
[13:35]<@BC_Programming> yeah they go on about how C/C++ is better than any other language
[13:35]<@BC_Programming> and yet
[13:35]<@BC_Programming> they don't have anything to show for it
[13:36]<+camerongray> Sits at uni, talks stupidly loudly to all his friends at uni (His friends include the guy I know as "Late Twat"), rants at how C++ is the only language you can use yet can't actually make anything
[13:36]<@BC_Programming> haha yeah
[13:36]<+camerongray> Him and "Late Twat" are the only two guys I hate at uni, And I've never even spoken to them!
[13:37]<+camerongray> You can work out how the latter got his name
[13:37]<@BC_Programming> "You make fat claims but your portfolio is thin, what is up with that"
[13:38]<+camerongray> He kept up his record though, late to every lecture today
[13:38]<+camerongray> Despite standing smoking outside 10mins before each!
[13:39]<+camerongray> then he comes in with his stupid briefcase and gloves then locates the most awkward seat (15mins after the lecture has started) then gets people to move out the way to let their master get to his ideal seat
[13:39]<+camerongray> Yeah... hate the guy :P
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> I would say "OH certainly your highness!" very loudly
[13:40]<+camerongray> haha, I should do that
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> maybe keep a small roll of red carpet for the occasion
[13:40]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, I should find his speech when he stood up to be elected for class rep
[13:40]<+camerongray> It was scary
[13:40]<Immental1200> Scary how.
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> "I will put in place a policy whereby the jewish students must wear gold stars..."
[13:41]<+camerongray> Nooo, the link expired
[13:41]<+camerongray> Google cache FTW!
[13:41]<+camerongray> "Dear readers, I did not put a heading for my statement, because I believe this way we can feel more unofficial - what I am hoping for our future together. That you are able to see me as one of you, to whom you can share your problems and difficulties. I believe that in this prestigious university I am not anything different from you. I am asking for a friend-to-friend relationship with all of you. I believe this is what is
[13:41]<+camerongray> the most important quality for the position. Understanding what the problems consist of is not as important as the ability to communicate with the rest of the people, that can easily point it out to the person, that can change the situation. I only hope that from these few lines containing my thoughts on the matter, you can see in me a person, worthy of your trust."
[13:42]<@BC_Programming> I like how in all that text he actually says very little
[13:42]<+camerongray> Yeah
[13:43]<+camerongray> Unlike my friend who actually won! http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lCs3K1ozOnkJ:elections.eusa.ed.ac.uk/elect/elections/10/candidates/635/view+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> except "This is the only way I can make friends vote for me"
[13:44]<+camerongray> Oh no, he has friends, the sort who all sit togther yelling and laughing during lectures in their native language
[13:44]<+camerongray> Today we spent a large proportion of time turning round and glaring at them
[13:45]<@BC_Programming> they speak fluent chav
[13:45]<+camerongray> lol
[13:45]<+camerongray> Bulgarian I think
[13:45]<+camerongray> Took the lecturer to actually stop talking and everyone to turn round before they realised!
[13:45]<+camerongray> And this is in a lecture with around 200 people!
[13:47]<+camerongray> We did have fun trying to explain to one of my friends what a "Ned" was :P
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[14:54]<Immental1200> Every single video.... has this damn comment safety thing turned on.
[14:54]<Immental1200> There must be a way to remove it. I'm logged in and it thinks I'm 26 FFS.
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[17:29]<Immental1200> Did the pi crash? ;)
[17:30]<Immental1200> Still no reply from lostcoast... I'm fed up of this going to write a nice long message for Nathan.
[17:46]<+camerongray> Nah, my internet crapped out for a second
[17:48]<+camerongray> How are you contacting him?
[17:48]<+camerongray> Post in the chat section of the forum, he almost always responds there, or at least someone else will
[17:51]<Immental1200> Tempted to pm him and cc lostcoast on the forum.
[17:52]<+camerongray> That could work, think PCDoc has done that
[17:52]<+camerongray> But try the forum fist
[17:52]<+camerongray> first*
[17:52]<+camerongray> That's where he always says to dispute bans so makes sense to do it there
[17:52]<Immental1200> I'm not respected on the forum, they all hate me :(
[17:53]<+camerongray> Doesn't matter, chat section would still be better than PM'ing as you know how touchy LC is with that
[17:54]<Immental1200> Eh. I want to rip my eyes out everytime I ise the forum
[17:54]<Immental1200> Use
[17:54]<+camerongray> You've not used it for almost a year
[17:54]<Immental1200> It's so horrible with its current theme
[17:55]<+camerongray> And Calum is a mod now so that helps, he's probably the smartest mod there :P
[17:55]<+camerongray> Smartest/nicest :P
[17:55]<Immental1200> Why he didn't put the theme back after the database crash
[17:55]<Immental1200> *coughs*camerons new crush*coughs*
[17:55]<Immental1200> I joke
[17:55]<+camerongray> haha
[17:56]<+camerongray> He is one of the best mods there IMO
[17:56]<+camerongray> And boy does he know his stuff when it comes to hardware, he taught me most of what I know
[17:57]<Immental1200> I'm giggling at hardware. I so should not have made that joke
[17:59]<+camerongray> haha
[18:00]<+camerongray> Almost as mature as my flatmate when I was yelling at the XT for not reading the hard drive so could only boot from the floppy :P
[18:00]<@BC_Programming> the forum theme wasn't changed since the SMF update, had nothing to do with a db crash
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[18:00]<+camerongray> Then of course me being oblivous answered '5.25"' when he jokingly asked how big my hard drive was :P
[18:00]<+camerongray> He still won't let that one go
[18:01]<Immental1200> I've got my cousin tied from when we put up fencing, boy did he enjoy nailing wood
[18:03]<+camerongray> Gaaaa Geek-9pm!
[18:03]<Immental1200> What's he done now?
[18:04]<Immental1200> I can't be bothered to open another irc client
[18:04]<+camerongray> Nah, it's on the forum
[18:04]<+camerongray> Person asking about a 5 year old server
[18:05]<+camerongray> He's calling it 'Legacy Hardware' and has made up in his head that the person wants to use it as a desktop
[18:05]<+camerongray> This is a rackmount server BTW :P
[18:05]<Immental1200> Link.... Please...
[18:06]<Immental1200> Sod it I'll go back on the forum tomorrow and remind people I exist and love to point out their stupid mistakes. I'm sure I caught patio out once or twice
[18:06]<+camerongray> That's the problem :P
[18:06]<+camerongray> Don't point out mistakes all the time, help as well :P
[18:06]<+camerongray> That's why the chat hates me!
[18:06]<Immental1200> Noo I did help
[18:06]<Immental1200> I often corrected rather than just went lol that's wrong
[18:06]<+camerongray> Here it is: <select id="404-page" name="404-page">
[18:06]<+camerongray> <?php foreach($pages as $page): ?>
[18:06]<+camerongray> <option<?php if ($page->alias == $error_404_page) { echo ' selected'; } ?> value="<?php echo $page->alias; ?>"><?php echo $page->title; ?></option>
[18:06]<+camerongray> <?php endforeach; ?>
[18:06]<+camerongray> </select>
[18:06]<+camerongray> <span class="help-block">This is the page that will be displayed when navigating directly to the website.</span>
[18:07]<+camerongray> balls!
[18:07]<Immental1200> Go look at my posts :P
[18:07]<+camerongray> I can work copy and paste :P
[18:07]<+camerongray> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,140356.0.html
[18:07]<Immental1200> Also why did I get some 404 shit.
[18:07]<+camerongray> I forgot to hit copy on the link!
[18:07]<+camerongray> Had that in my clipboard from before
[18:10]<Immental1200> Wow geek is an idiot
[18:10]<Immental1200> Nearly worse than rockets
[18:10]<+camerongray> Yeah
[18:10]<+camerongray> Rockets is pretty bad too, used to hang out here a lot
[18:10]<Immental1200> He counts two exons as overpowered? Jesus.
[18:11]<+camerongray> Not sure how old he is, I always thought he was quite young but not sure
[18:11]<Immental1200> He must still run a p4
[18:11]<+camerongray> Probably does :P
[18:12]<Immental1200> Hopefully I get this apprenticeship... I'd get a laptop off them and money for a new QUIET desktop...
[18:12]<+camerongray> Nice! What are you doing?
[18:12]<Immental1200> Considering mitx but...eh
[18:12]<Immental1200> Firm called tivarri
[18:12]<+camerongray> Ahh sweet!
[18:12]<Immental1200> They do lots more than their site shows
[18:12]<+camerongray> Nice!
[18:13]<+camerongray> I was lucky with my job, did work experience for them and they kept me on
[18:13]<Immental1200> It's a year's apprenticeship with a full time offer at the end if you pass the training
[18:14]<+camerongray> Nice!
[18:14]<Immental1200> It's done through firebrand, so I'd get c+ ccna and mcse I think... Plus loads more I can do independently
[18:14]<+camerongray> Mine was much more unofficial than that :P
[18:14]<+camerongray> "Do you want to work during uni?"
[18:14]<+camerongray> Me: "Err... YES!"
[18:14]<+camerongray> http://www.lynchpin.com/
[18:15]<Immental1200> They said their salary is lower end of average, but they pay more for every qualification and certification you get
[18:15]<+camerongray> And this is something I developed :D http://www.lynchpin.com/blog/how-track-single-page-websites
[18:15]<Immental1200> Apparently I could get certified in like ad and even if I never use it with them, I'd still be paid more.
[18:15]<+camerongray> You can almost make out '~cameron' in the blurred URL :P
[18:16]<Immental1200> Actually... Tracking single page sites can now be done with google analytics in a little tool they have
[18:16]<+camerongray> Ahh nice
[18:17]<Immental1200> Shows user clicks and how many users view each object and element on the site.
[18:17]<Immental1200> Takes your site in realtime and shoves a GUI over it
[18:17]<+camerongray> Nice!
[18:17]<+camerongray> Not sure if it's the same though, this tracks pageviews
[18:17]<+camerongray> And is based on the position of the page in the browser
[18:17]<Immental1200> This does that and more
[18:17]<+camerongray> link?
[18:18]<Immental1200> It's within google analytics
[18:18]<Immental1200> Beta tool on the left somewhere when viewing site data
[18:18]<Immental1200> I'll get you a screenshot tomorrow... On my phone
[18:18]<+camerongray> Ahh, the in page analytics
[18:19]<+camerongray> This is a bit different, it tracks the page as though it was a regular, separate file - As in the way it's reported within GA
[18:20]<+camerongray> So the pages report shows a list of 'pages' even though they are on the same page
[18:20]<@BC_Programming> one issue with GA is that people that have javascript disabled are non-existent to it
[18:20]<+camerongray> Yeah
[18:20]<+camerongray> Sitecatalyst is better in that respect as it can use an image as a fallback
[18:20]<+camerongray> Piwik does the same
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[21:47]<@BC_Programming> "Yeah man, all my tats mean something to me, you know? I've got this symbol of peace, cause I'm against war and stuff. I've got this anchor down here so I know to always keep myself grounded. And I got this Raven over here when my grandfather died, he was big on Poe."
[21:47]<@BC_Programming> "Cool, So... what's the quadratic formula symbolize?"
[21:47]<@BC_Programming> "So I never forget my roots."
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