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[03:50]<@BC_Programming> lol awesome
[03:50]<@BC_Programming> Total: CDN $1,006.72
[03:52]<camerongray> Sweet!
[03:53]<camerongray> Buy all the things!
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[03:53]<@BC_Programming> yeah I just checked my account and I got paid at midnight lol
[03:54]<@BC_Programming> Actually I need 600 of that for other things
[03:54]<@BC_Programming> going to pay off bills even though they aren't in my name
[03:54]<camerongray> Ahh
[03:55]<@BC_Programming> OpenPandora will have to wait :P
[03:55]<camerongray> Pay mine too :P
[03:55]<@BC_Programming> lol!
[03:56]<@BC_Programming> ooooh
[03:56]<@BC_Programming> shiiizzz
[03:56]<@BC_Programming> Every single time I used my card except the first time it costs 2 dollars
[03:57]<camerongray> Wow
[03:57]<camerongray> Might want to change bank :P
[03:58]<@BC_Programming> naw it's because it's a savings account
[03:58]<@BC_Programming> 26$ because of that
[03:58]<@BC_Programming> I think I might switch to cash :/
[03:59]<@BC_Programming> on the bright side that's only for using the card so stuff like paypal won't ding me
[04:00]<camerongray> Ahh
[04:00]<camerongray> I'd open a different account ASAP though
[04:02]<@BC_Programming> they closed my chequing account and I need to make an appointment to open a chequing account
[04:02]<PCdoc> BURP!!
[04:02]<@BC_Programming> open another one I mean
[04:02]<camerongray> Ahh
[04:03]<Zuwer> I almost never use cash, but I don't buy a lot so it doesn't really bother me using eftpos. :x
[04:05]<@BC_Programming> apparently I can apply for another chequing account online if the web thing is any indication
[04:06]<@BC_Programming> going to get back my Infinity account that let's me use my card as much as I please
[04:07]<Zuwer> My bank balance is going to drop a bit next week, buying my sisters car because she is moving overseas soon. D:
[04:09]<@BC_Programming> lol there is a drop-down but it has no items in it lol
[04:13]<Zuwer> That's useful.
[04:13]<@BC_Programming> "This is a required field" hahaha
[04:16]<camerongray> Uh oh, can now preorder a .scot domain
[04:16]<camerongray> Must not order too many
[04:16]<camerongray> So many are available
[04:16]<@BC_Programming> pres.scot
[04:16]<camerongray> camerongray.scot, gray.scot, cameron.scot
[04:16]<camerongray> lol!
[04:17]<@BC_Programming> ma.scot
[04:17]<camerongray> haha
[04:17]<camerongray> Oh wow, .analytics
[04:17]<camerongray> How cool will that be!
[04:17]<camerongray> lynchpin.analytics
[04:18]<camerongray> YES! Gandi allow preordering
[04:19]<camerongray> Oh god, I have to get gray.scot
[04:19]<camerongray> cameron@gray.scot
[04:19]<@BC_Programming> lol
[04:21]<camerongray> What else
[04:21]<camerongray> I could be a completely evil person and buy loads of ones and sell them :P
[04:21]<camerongray> But I'm nice
[04:22]<Zuwer> Tell that to guitar_man. :x
[04:22]<camerongray> lol!
[04:23]<camerongray> I can do up to 500
[04:23]<@BC_Programming> I like how they disable a bunch of fields from the start and then say I can't continue until I fix the validation error
[04:28]<camerongray> There we go - camerongray.scot, cameron.scot and gray.scot
[04:29]<@BC_Programming> no pres.scot?
[04:30]<@BC_Programming> no great.scot?
[04:31]<@BC_Programming> hey cool I just realized I'm making like 26K
[04:34]<camerongray> nice!
[04:35]<@BC_Programming> what was the keyboard you reviewed again
[04:36]<camerongray> Filco Majestouch
[04:36]<@BC_Programming> thx
[04:36]<camerongray> Also look at the BS ones
[04:40]<@BC_Programming> lol everything is out of stock...
[04:40]<camerongray> haha
[04:40]<camerongray> Need to work out what switch you want to go for :P
[04:40]<camerongray> Blues are pretty light
[04:43]<@BC_Programming> wasdkeyboards is out of stock
[04:44]<@BC_Programming> I think filco is out because of shipping & duties
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[04:44]<@BC_Programming> code keyboard is out of stock too
[04:44]<@BC_Programming> now to unicomp/pckeyboard.com
[04:45]<@BC_Programming> looks like they have stock, cheaper too; gonna go with them for now
[04:45]<@BC_Programming> just trying to figure out, what I need to leave in my accnt to Xfer to paypal you see :P
[04:59]<camerongray> BC_Programming: Research the switches though, massive difference between BS and cherry
[05:00]<@BC_Programming> BS?
[05:00]<@BC_Programming> Bucking spring?
[05:00]<@BC_Programming> buclking*
[05:00]<@BC_Programming> dammit all
[05:00]<@BC_Programming> I'd try that again but I think I'll quit while I'm ahead
[05:01]<camerongray> lol
[05:01]<@BC_Programming> I could feasibly just stick with this keyboard after all
[05:01]<camerongray> Yeah
[05:01]<camerongray> I prefer Buckling Spring, but it's heacy
[05:01]<camerongray> heavy*
[05:04]<@BC_Programming> well Unicomp seems to be the only one in stock as far as I can tell... code keyboards all gone and WASD only has UK/ISO
[05:04]<camerongray> Ahh
[05:04]<camerongray> Or what about a real Model M?
[05:04]<@BC_Programming> they are the original Model M style though, I've used those before
[05:04]<@BC_Programming> No, I need the Windows Key
[05:05]<@BC_Programming> I use both the Windows Key and the Application key quite a lot heh
[05:06]<camerongray> ahh yeah
[05:06]<camerongray> The unicomps are close yeah (I have one)
[05:06]<@BC_Programming> ideally I could simply wait but you know how hard that can be :/
[05:08]<camerongray> yeah
[05:09]<@BC_Programming> heh I'm talking about keyboards, meanwhile both my hard drives have practically failed
[05:09]<@BC_Programming> though they soldier on it seems
[05:10]<camerongray> lol, I'd replace them first :P
[05:10]<@BC_Programming> I should try to get a hard drive instead of a keyboard to start
[05:12]<@BC_Programming> BTW do hard drives usually come with a SATA cable, I can't remember
[05:13]<Zuwer> My Seagate one didn't.
[05:13]<@BC_Programming> http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=744345&CatId=8
[05:14]<camerongray> Nah, never seen one
[05:14]<Zuwer> Only SATA cables I have came with the mobo.
[05:14]<@BC_Programming> can SATA III connectors work with SATA II
[05:14]<camerongray> I wish Lenovo would just release the new ThinkPads
[05:14]<camerongray> BC_Programming: Yeah, just don't ask patio...
[05:14]<@BC_Programming> lol
[05:15]<Zuwer> Out of curiosity, why? :o
[05:15]<@BC_Programming> I could get the cable from TigerDirect as well I used them for my PC Build :D
[05:15]<camerongray> He ranted saying that using a SATA II cable will only give SATA II speeds
[05:15]<@BC_Programming> well yeah if you are using a SATA II controller that seems obvious
[05:16]<camerongray> So I tested my SATA III SSD with the oldest SATA cable I could find (From when they were all red) and showed no difference!
[05:16]<@BC_Programming> mine are Orange
[05:16]<camerongray> Of course he was just "Pfft, believe what you want but I'm right"
[05:16]<@BC_Programming> aren't there 7-pin and 9-pin SATA cables or something
[05:16]<camerongray> Hmm, not that I know of
[05:17]<camerongray> Along with him saying that no drives can exceed SATA II speeds because a 500megabyte/s drive is clearly slower than a 3gigabit/s interface :P
[05:17]<camerongray> Doesn't understand basic concepts like that
[05:18]<@BC_Programming> but that's like 4Gigabits lol
[05:18]<camerongray> Yeah
[05:19]<@BC_Programming> haha oh wow I can still view the invoice for when I bought the stuff for my build
[05:21]<camerongray> nice!
[05:21]<@BC_Programming> "This was shipped over 30 days ago and cannot be returned"
[05:21]<camerongray> Then yesterday when I was trying to convince half the channel that laptop WiFI cards can be replaced (As patio is telling the person to buy a new laptop due to a bad card)
[05:21]<@BC_Programming> DARN!
[05:21]<Zuwer> Hm, I don't mind that rule in #CH about accurate help, but it'd be nice for some of the helpers to be a bit less opinionated. :s
[05:21]<camerongray> Yeah
[05:22]<camerongray> So I say that the card can be a bit hidden and that it's under the palmrest on mine
[05:22]<camerongray> Patio's response is "This reminds me why I no longer work on laptops"
[05:22]<@BC_Programming> Because he's wrong about them?
[05:22]<camerongray> Best way to run a PC repair business - Don't fix the type of PC that most people have
[05:23]<camerongray> I fix cars, but not hatchbacks
[05:23]<@BC_Programming> Hmm... I am tempted to replace my laptop's hard drive, rather than my desktop's hard drive
[05:23]<@BC_Programming> they are all failing lol
[05:23]<camerongray> haha
[05:23]<camerongray> SSD them both :P
[05:23]<@BC_Programming> mostly because replacing my laptop's hard drive will be easier, nothing important to try to save
[05:24]<@BC_Programming> desktop not so much... 4 years of crap, and a lot of it is on the Secondary drive that I had to disable Indexing on to prevent it disappearing from the system :/
[05:24]<Zuwer> Couldn't live without SSD's now, although my laptop is still on a regular HDD, only because it is still in warranty (Not sure if it would void it, but meh, I'll be safe)
[05:24]<@BC_Programming> not even sure if I could do a Partition to partition copy of it at this point
[05:24]<@BC_Programming> I don't need storage space on my laptop so an SSD is probably a good idea
[05:25]<@BC_Programming> in fact it might make the usable space bigger
[05:25]<@BC_Programming> I had to partition the 250GB in half and only use the second half to get it to install Windows
[05:25]<camerongray> And an SSD based laptop is super tough
[05:25]<camerongray> No need to worry about carrying it when running
[05:26]<@BC_Programming> is mSATA the little condensed SATA for laptops?
[05:26]<camerongray> It's for very small SSDs
[05:26]<camerongray> Laptop drives are regular SATA
[05:26]<@BC_Programming> oh really... I'm an idiot
[05:26]<@BC_Programming> lol
[05:26]<camerongray> mSATA SSDs are like little stiks that go into a slot
[05:26]<@BC_Programming> I thought they were custom like laptop IDE drives
[05:27]<@BC_Programming> I guess most SSDs aren't full size either
[05:27]<Zuwer> It's a connection directly to the mobo, no cables. (As far as I'm aware)
[05:27]<camerongray> Yeah, they are almost all 2.5
[05:27]<@BC_Programming> Zuwer: I know I have a laptop :/
[05:27]<camerongray> My laptop has an option to put an mSATA SSD in the 3g modem slot and keep a regular HDD
[05:27]<Zuwer> I was meaning mSATA
[05:27]<camerongray> But I can't do that as I'd break it
[05:28]<@BC_Programming> lol
[05:28]<camerongray> BC_Programming: The Samsung 840 pro is excellent
[05:28]<@BC_Programming> http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5552076&Sku=S153-0126
[05:29]<@BC_Programming> I don't think I'll need 250GB on my laptop
[05:29]<@BC_Programming> right now it has less than 80GB of storage... anything would be an update
[05:29]<camerongray> Yeah
[05:29]<camerongray> Never used a samsung one
[05:30]<@BC_Programming> and moving from a failing 5400RPM Hard drive to a SATA drive will no doubt be like a new laptop altogether
[05:30]<camerongray> I suppose you don't need the best in your laptop as it is only going to be SATA II
[05:31]<@BC_Programming> that SANDisk is affordable and just the right size. Their flash drives are good, what about SSDs?
[05:31]<camerongray> not sure
[05:31]<camerongray> You know who to ask :P
[05:34]<@BC_Programming> only if he shows up before the transfer to paypal completes in a few days
[05:34]<@BC_Programming> otherwise I guess I'll be able to say later
[05:34]<Zuwer> I have a Samsung 840 (non-pro), no complaints with it.
[05:34]<@BC_Programming> I'll probably get a few odds and ends at a brick & mortar like future shop when I go to withdraw my cashies
[05:35]<@BC_Programming> Wireless-N of some sort for my desktop at least
[05:36]<@BC_Programming> oh I need new shoes, mine are just a bit of leather wrapping at this point
[05:36]<@BC_Programming> basically Imma get stuff
[05:37]<@BC_Programming> I'll try to avoid buying 5 dollar DVD Burners or something like I did a few years ago with a CD Burner
[05:37]<@BC_Programming> it was like 5 dollars
[05:37]<Zuwer> Buy shoes like my brother uses at building sites, they'd last you forever.
[05:37]<@BC_Programming> how could I NOT buy a CD-Burner for 5 bucks
[05:38]<@BC_Programming> I mean I never actually USED that CD-Burner because I had several DVD-RW burners including one with lightscribe, but... dude... 5 dollars
[05:38]<camerongray> I wear clothes until they fall apart
[05:38]<@BC_Programming> they just turn to dust
[05:38]<camerongray> haha
[05:39]<@BC_Programming> one day you're walking along and a mild gust of wind turns your clothes into a fine powder that flies away
[05:39]<camerongray> hah
[05:39]<camerongray> You get people that have ?1000s worth of clothes, My normal clothes probably costs like ?200 tops
[05:40]<camerongray> If even that
[05:40]<@BC_Programming> I should probably replace my MP3 player, poor little fella
[05:40]<camerongray> I know you hate them, but get a phone - Will do your MP3 too
[05:40]<camerongray> Or get a company one
[05:40]<@BC_Programming> >:(
[05:40]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[05:40]<@BC_Programming> actually
[05:40]<@BC_Programming> perhaps
[05:41]<@BC_Programming> and they are usually about the same price
[05:41]<camerongray> I don't use my Zune (Yes I have one) or iPod anymore, just my phone
[05:41]<Zuwer> Meh, I only have a few really good shirts for town, but my boots I use around home cost more than them. I haven't got any true formal clothes though. :x
[05:41]<@BC_Programming> well actually I wanted to get a new version of the walkman that way my MP3 players would be like brothers
[05:42]<camerongray> Zuwer: Yeah, I should probably get a suit or something for meeting certain clients, kilt is fine for weddings and some formal events, but not what you would wear to a client's offi ce;P
[05:42]<Zuwer> Heh, but it would make it so much more interesting, a lot less bland.
[05:43]<camerongray> Zuwer: Yeah, would never wear a suit to anywhere I could wear my kilt, suits look too much like a company meeting :P
[05:43]<camerongray> BC_Programming: Look at the Nexus 4, brilliant phone for the price
[05:44]<camerongray> Oh yeah, and they recently dropped the price - $199 for a top spec phone
[05:44]<@BC_Programming> oh hell no
[05:44]<@BC_Programming> If I can get one for the same price as an Mp3 player then i will but otherwise balls to that
[05:45]<camerongray> Ahh
[05:45]<camerongray> Probably get a feature phone for that though
[05:45]<Zuwer> Darn, I had completely forgotten about the Nexus 4, should have gotten that rather than my Samsung phone. :(
[05:45]<camerongray> haha yeah
[05:46]<@BC_Programming> OMG it's the younger brother of my MP3 Player
[05:46]<@BC_Programming> http://store.sony.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=100803&storeId=20153&langId=200&productId=8198552921666585167
[05:46]<camerongray> heeh
[05:46]<@BC_Programming> Now one thing I don't get is why it's the exact same price as this one I bought in 2008 and the exact same size
[05:46]<camerongray> oh, for$80 you could easily get a phone
[05:46]<camerongray> Possibly even a low end/used android one!
[05:46]<@BC_Programming> you're not the boss of me
[05:47]<Zuwer> I could sell you my old Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro, only been for one swim (Everything still works, which was surprising).
[05:48]<@BC_Programming> I was hoping the same price would get me at LEAST an 8GB
[05:49]<@BC_Programming> Hmm I guess I shall see what I find at the shops for MP3 players
[05:50]<@BC_Programming> I'm not a big fan of Sony but for some reason I find the idea that I could have a second new Mp3 player that is almost the same as the one I have but funky and modernized a few years funny
[05:51]<@BC_Programming> Also I think this one lastest far longer than it was intended to... most people would have given up when the volume rocker snapped off and you need to short out the traces to turn the volume up
[05:51]<@BC_Programming> Or when they lost one of the screws that holds the case together so it tries to fall apart
[05:51]<Zuwer> You really do get your moneys worth out of what you buy.
[05:52]<camerongray> haha
[05:52]<@BC_Programming> There was one point that it stopped starting at all and seemed completely broken
[05:52]<Zuwer> Give it to my granddad, he could fix that for you.
[05:52]<@BC_Programming> I took it apart and resecured the screen ribbon connection
[05:53]<Zuwer> Admittedly, it would involve a hammer of some kind.
[05:53]<camerongray> haha
[05:53]<@BC_Programming> also if I press the up arrow button too hard the screen get alls corrupted and funky and then it hangs
[05:54]<camerongray> Yeah, get a new one :P
[05:54]<@BC_Programming> If I replace it it will take it's place on the shelf of interesting items
[05:54]<Zuwer> Nah, still got a few years left in it.
[05:54]<camerongray> If you got a smartphone or something you could also play games on it :P
[05:54]<camerongray> BC_Programming: Nice!
[05:55]<@BC_Programming> oh also it randomly borks up and hangs when playing music which is a bit of a pain what with it needing a needle to get to the reset switch
[05:55]<@BC_Programming> It's also wiped itself three times
[05:55]<@BC_Programming> which is more than I can say for Richard Stallman at least
[05:56]<@BC_Programming> oooh the 8GBis 10 dollars more
[05:56]<@BC_Programming> that could work
[05:56]<@BC_Programming> for a moment I worried about having to work today
[05:57]<@BC_Programming> but I figure my 13.5 hours yesterday should count for something :P
[05:57]<@BC_Programming> which reminds me to see if the datapuller ran and imported the data I need to the database
[05:57]<@BC_Programming> No, now I'm quite annoyed
[06:00]<@BC_Programming> http://imgur.com/ByCEo4b
[06:00]<@BC_Programming> "ME WANT CHICKENS"
[06:02]<@BC_Programming> "Our neighbourhood used to be so pleasant. Now we have coke deals taking place in the parking lot"
[06:02]<@BC_Programming> http://imgur.com/pEm4Gcp
[06:06]<camerongray> haha
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[07:10]<@BC_Programming> !fc nanaimo BC
[07:10]<Steimey> that sux, can you alert the police?
[07:11]<@BC_Programming> what?
[07:11]<Steimey> About the coke deals
[07:11]<@BC_Programming> http://imgur.com/pEm4Gcp << Coke deals...
[07:12]<Steimey> *busts up laughing*
[07:12]<camerongray> haha
[07:12]<Steimey> *feels silly now*
[07:13]<@BC_Programming> http://i.imgur.com/ZdXgsty.jpg
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[10:47]<@Mulreay> Anyone had experience adding a 360 contoller in win 8?
[10:49]<Craig-Work> Do you have the dongle for wireless controllers?
[10:50]<@Mulreay> it's wired
[10:50]<Craig-Work> Hmmm, should be able to grab the updates through windows update to use it.
[10:51]<@Mulreay> Yeah it just fails to install.. tried manual and it still fails 'invalid data'
[10:51]<Craig-Work> Try plugging it into a different port and try again?
[10:51]<@Mulreay> Plug and played on my win 7 machine but win 8 is having non of it
[10:53]<@Mulreay> Just tried again with a differnt USB 'windows found driver software for your device but encountered an error whilst attempting to install it' 'The data is invalid'
[10:54]<@Mulreay> Running up quite a list of broken non working things for this PC
[11:06]<Craig-Work> That sucks,
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> got a mew USB adapter
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> new*
[12:25]<camerongray> nice
[12:27]<@BC_Programming> Wireless-N
[12:27]<@BC_Programming> not using it yet though heh
[12:28]<@BC_Programming> was only able to actually withdraw 500 bucks though which is annoying
[13:23]<@BC_Programming> now to try to swap to the wireless-N
[13:24]<@BC_Programming> hopefully BRB
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[13:35]<@BC_Programming> there we go
[13:37]<camerongray> Nice!
[13:37]<camerongray> Now my friend and I's flats are VPN'd together :D
[13:37]<@BC_Programming> proper nerdage there huh?
[13:37]<camerongray> Yeah
[13:38]<Immental1200> Lol why do you need that xd
[13:38]<camerongray> And we have two other people buying routers to join
[13:38]<camerongray> Err... We can :P
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> new Wifi adapter get's 90% signal strength :D
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> good deal for $30, wireless-N USB
[13:38]<camerongray> We even have an internal Wiki! http://pasteboard.co/2Jm8Cb57.png
[13:38]<camerongray> Not kidding!
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> lol there is a broadcasted SSID nearby named "hidden network"
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> yeah not so much
[13:40]<camerongray> Ahh, when you go to connect you have to enter the SSID
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> no the SSID is broadcast
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> not hidden at all
[13:40]<camerongray> ahh
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> they just called the network "hidden network"
[13:40]<camerongray> haha
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> oooh there is an unsecured linksys
[13:42]<@BC_Programming> I'm trying to figure out how we have a TELUS1877 and a TELUS1877 2 SSID
[13:44]<Immental1200> Perhaps it supports multiple SSIDs and someone turned it on..
[13:45]<camerongray> haha, you've not seen my WiFi list!
[13:46]<@BC_Programming> I also bought new shoes
[13:46]<@BC_Programming> funny thing is
[13:46]<@BC_Programming> I put my old shoes in the shoebox and wore the new ones
[13:46]<@BC_Programming> but After going to shops and carrying a bunch of other crap I just left the box in a random place
[13:46]<camerongray> Ahh :P
[13:46]<camerongray> So far we have: MikroTik_Cameron, MikroTik_Daniel, MikroTik_Jamie, MikroTik_Guest, MikroTik_Shared all coming from one router!
[13:47]<@BC_Programming> so I abandoned my old shoes
[13:48]<@BC_Programming> And no they were not wearable anymore... in fact I think my old shoes screwed up how I walked, the new ones felt like they were tilted outwards because they were actually flat, whereas my old ones had a massive diagonal slice that made them try to go inward
[14:13]<Immental1200> If I said I have a potential ?800 / ?900 budget for a PC build in 2 months or so time, what would you guys recommend as the CPU?
[14:14]<camerongray> I'd say i5 4670k
[14:14]<Immental1200> I was considering dropping back a gen and getting the 3770k but I don't know if that's a good choice for future proofing it for a few years.
[14:15]<Immental1200> Couldn't easily go from 3rd to 4th gen though.
[14:16]<camerongray> What do you plan on using it for?
[14:18]<Immental1200> Games, lots of stuff open at once, potentially video rendering and editing and light programming / web development stuff.
[14:21]<camerongray> Hmm
[14:21]<camerongray> I'd probably go with the i5 as you can then upgrade to Intel's next gen if you want
[14:22]<Immental1200> Yeah. I want an SSD for sure, I love the speed. Probably 8. maybe 16GB of RAM... that's whats limited me from testing stuff with virtual machines before
[14:24]<camerongray> 8gb should be enough
[14:25]<Immental1200> I know video rendering can use a lot, I've got some 10GB files for just half an hour of recording before now.
[14:25]<camerongray> Ahh
[14:25]<camerongray> If you do it a lot then get 16 I suppose
[14:26]<Immental1200> What do you guys go for brand wise? I've always used Crucial or Kingston... I've been recommended against Crucial lately.
[14:26]<camerongray> Whatever's cheapesr
[14:26]<camerongray> cheapest*
[14:26]<camerongray> RAM brand makes no real difference, the chips are only made by a few companies
[14:27]<Immental1200> What about speed... anyone used the 2133 stuff?
[14:27]<camerongray> My desktop is G.Skill, laptop RAM is branded 'KomputerBay' but uses Hynix chips
[14:30]<Immental1200> I've always had 1600Mhz stuff
[14:33]<camerongray> Difference isn't huge
[14:35]<Immental1200> I did notice a bit of a difference on an old PC between 600 and 1866
[14:37]<Immental1200> It's like ... ?10 difference between the 3570k and 4670k if that... I'll get the 4
[14:37]<camerongray> yeah
[14:38]<Immental1200> Only ?80 more for the 4770k ;) might save a little longer
[14:39]<camerongray> lol
[14:40]<Immental1200> Don't really need it... but why not if I can get it
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[17:12]<camerongray> Interesting...
[17:12]<camerongray> <db100547> if *gray becomes an halfop . that will be the end of me being here , more than likely .
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[17:12]<camerongray> <camerongray> lol, I won't do anything bad :P
[17:12]<camerongray> <guest_65> Well thanks a lot have a good day kind sir. Bye.
[17:12]<camerongray> <db100547> lol
[17:12]<camerongray> <camerongray> guest_65: No problem!
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[17:12]<camerongray> <camerongray> But I doubt there is a chance of that happening, with all the ops hating me and all :P
[17:12]<camerongray> <db100547> camerongray: no comment on that
[17:12]<camerongray> <camerongray> haha
[17:12]<camerongray> <camerongray> No comment on the hop, or no comment on you hating me :P
[17:12]<camerongray> <db100547> camerongray: both
[17:18]<Immental1200> Hes an idiot
[17:19]<Immental1200> You'd do a better job as hop than the lot combined
[17:19]<camerongray> lol yeah
[17:20]<camerongray> Just seems odd as to why he'd bring it up
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