Session Start: Mon Sep 02 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[07:57]<@BC_Programming> freaking VPN won't connect now
[07:57]<@BC_Programming> works all weekend and disconnects Sunday night wtf
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[08:04]<+camerongray> You could be worse!
[08:05]<PCdoc> camerongray: :-s
[08:05]<@BC_Programming> Now it's unable to establish a connection blabbing about not being able to establish VPN tunnels or something
[08:05]<+camerongray> We are in the middle of moving lots of our stuff out to the datacenter from the office including the Active Directory, Email.etc
[08:05]<PCdoc> camerongray: is lc fired ?? !!
[08:05]<@BC_Programming> good thing I checked my WO yesterday I guess
[08:05]<+camerongray> No idea!
[08:05]<PCdoc> havent seen him since then :-s
[08:05]<+camerongray> Came back from work to everyone standing chatting and MD frantically hitting his keyboard - Internet was down
[08:05]<+camerongray> Got the internet back
[08:06]<+camerongray> Now the music streamer can't get an IP over DHCP
[08:06]<+camerongray> And even more amusingly - All the phones are responding to the wrong numbers
[08:07]<PCdoc> I tried installing win 8 on virtualbox yesterday .. it dumped to Recovery Screen saying ur processor does not support 64bit version
[08:07]<+camerongray> And we can't really transfer the calls because we have no idea what phone it will go to
[08:07]<PCdoc> unfortunately my internet was dead yesterday till today 1hr before .. i was not able to google the solution
[08:07]<@BC_Programming> PCDOc don't use the 64-bit version with a 32-bit virtualization environment
[08:07]<@BC_Programming> YOu had to google for that? I thought you were a tech
[08:07]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: oh !
[08:07]<@BC_Programming> :P
[08:08]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: :-l I havent used vm's .. m not used to them
[08:08]<+camerongray> Everything here is exploding
[08:08]<@BC_Programming> you in Star Trek?
[08:08]<+camerongray> lol
[08:08]<+camerongray> The email moved well though
[08:08]<+camerongray> Just not the phones :P
[08:09]<PCdoc> i thought it doesnt matter whether the host is 32 or 64 bit , coz after all its virtual environment
[08:09]<@BC_Programming> it has nothing to do with the virtualization environment, you cannot virtualize a 64-bit system using a 32-bit system
[08:09]<+camerongray> It's virtualised, you would need some sort of emulation to run 64bit on 32bit
[08:10]<@BC_Programming> precisely, virtualization!=Emulation
[08:36]<PCdoc> hmmm
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[09:55]<@Mulreay> Sorry for the intrusion I was just re-logging my ID's
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[09:55]<@BC_Programming> noo come back u
[09:57]<@jacky> ummm....
[09:57]<@jacky> hehehe
[09:58]<@jacky> I assume he meant that he was keeping his Nickserv registration current
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[09:58]<@jacky> if so... why join a channel?
[09:58]<@jacky> oh yeah!
[09:58]<@jacky> to let every body know he was here
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> mIRC probably automatic
[09:58]<@jacky> I get it
[09:58]<@jacky> heheheehe
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> I cannot start mIRC without joining #GlitchPC either
[09:58]<@jacky> oh?
[09:59]<@BC_Programming> auto-joins
[09:59]<@jacky> I doubt that... you, of all people
[09:59]<@jacky> heheeh
[09:59]<@jacky> I'm sure you can figure it out
[09:59]<@jacky> :)
[09:59]<@jacky> but I can see how it might not be worth the trouble, too
[09:59]<@jacky> oh well... so much for today's amusement
[09:59]<@jacky> :)
[10:00]<@BC_Programming> Gotta love it... VPN holds all weekend until Sunday (yesterday) and now I cannot connect to work
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[10:04]<@jacky> Erika: Hello
[10:05]<@BC_Programming> oh wait a second... today is labour day isn't it
[10:05]<@jacky> BC_Programming: it's the 21'st century... new way of telling you that you're fired
[10:05]<@BC_Programming> I wonder if I'm even supposed to work
[10:05]<@jacky> no. It is Labor Day
[10:05]<@jacky> hehehe
[10:05]<@BC_Programming> heh the irony huh
[10:06]<@BC_Programming> technically I don't need the VPN because I checked out my WO for this week on Friday and know what I still need to do
[10:07]<@jacky> Friday?
[10:07]<@jacky> Friday??!!??
[10:07]<@jacky> and it isn't done yet?
[10:07]<@BC_Programming> heh
[10:07]<@jacky> I assume "WO" is "work order"
[10:07]<@BC_Programming> I wasn't allowed to work since Thurs. Morning since I hit 80 hours
[10:07]<@jacky> like "assignment" ?
[10:07]<@BC_Programming> jacky: yep, pretty much
[10:08]<@jacky> just do the work anyway, and keep two sets of books so you know what is going on. Then, turn the work in "on schedule"... maybe just a little bit ahead of schedule, so you look good.
[10:08]<@BC_Programming> well that is what I did
[10:08]<@BC_Programming> I finished the days work once in a few hours
[10:08]<@jacky> great minds...
[10:08]<@BC_Programming> then just took a nap
[10:09]<@jacky> slept well, too... huh?
[10:09]<@jacky> :)
[10:09]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[10:09]<@BC_Programming> at 14$/hr sleep is easy
[10:10]<@jacky> there you go
[10:10]<@BC_Programming> heh I would feel bad about it but they have been thoroughly impressed with my thoroughput
[10:11]<@BC_Programming> and I think I mentioned they had a previous guy they tried that hadn't even come close to what I had in my first week in their first two months
[10:11]<@jacky> pace yourself
[10:11]<@jacky> that's my advice
[10:11]<@BC_Programming> yeah I think that's why they made me take a super-long weekend
[10:12]<@jacky> if you keep it up, how will you have room to "improve"?
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> oh right
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> well I could add a giant loop
[10:12]<Erika> hi jacky
[10:12]<@jacky> information is power. YOU know what you can do. Once you tell(show) them, you have given away that info
[10:12]<@jacky> Erika: :)
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> just loops from 1 to a billion within the program
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> then I can take off a few zeroes as a performance improvement
[10:12]<@jacky> BC_Programming: and here I was being serious (for once)
[10:12]<@jacky> hehehe
[10:13]<PCdoc> Why sssooo ssserouss son ?? !!!
[10:13]<PCdoc> ssseerrioouss **
[10:13]<@BC_Programming> I'm sure I'm still full of surprises given the tech I'm dabbled with over the years
[10:14]<@jacky> PCdoc: sorry... it just slipped out
[10:14]<@BC_Programming> even I forget stuff I've messed with
[10:14]<@jacky> BC_Programming: cool... keep some ammo in your gun
[10:15]<Erika> i got an hd graphics card
[10:15]<@BC_Programming> I think I'm their go-to Java guy now at least
[10:15]<@BC_Programming> which is a bit unexpected since I was hired for C# work but hey works for me
[10:15]<@jacky> BC_Programming: coo
[10:15]<@jacky> Erika: working all ok?
[10:15]<PCdoc> grrrr I dismantled a dell inspiron laptop to fix a new sata hdd. I re-aasembled and tried installing OS and found its shutting down due to over-heat :( have again dismantle grrrr
[10:15]<@jacky> BC_Programming: l
[10:15]<@BC_Programming> you scared me
[10:16]<@jacky> ?
[10:16]<@BC_Programming> thought you had turned into a pidgeon
[10:16]<@jacky> lost me...
[10:16]<@jacky> oh
[10:16]<@jacky> duhh
[10:16]<@BC_Programming> "coo"
[10:16]<@jacky> hehehe
[10:16]<Erika> yes
[10:16]<@jacky> Erika: cool, again
[10:16]<@jacky> heh
[10:16]<Erika> after fixing the drivers
[10:16]<PCdoc> aaauu aaauu
[10:17]<@jacky> PCdoc: Ungawa!
[10:17]<PCdoc> dhintata dhita dhita dhintatata
[10:18]<@jacky> PCdoc: no programming talk!!
[10:18]<@jacky> <g>
[10:19]<@BC_Programming> foreach(User in Channel){User.OnChat+=(u,msg)=>{if(msg.Contains("Programming")) u.Kick();u.Ban();}}
[10:20]<@jacky> Java?
[10:20]<PCdoc> Error: Bad Command or File Name
[10:20]<@BC_Programming> C#
[10:20]<@jacky> if I can do that in TCL, does that make me smart too?
[10:20]<@BC_Programming> PCDoc did you... did you try to put that into cmd?
[10:21]<PCdoc> well, m bad at programming so have no idea abt errors
[10:21]<PCdoc> :P
[10:21]<@BC_Programming> jacky: yeah sure
[10:21]<PCdoc> bad >> Zero
[10:21]<@jacky> WooHoo me!
[10:21]<@jacky> heh
[10:24]<@jacky> PCdoc: do you use mIRC?
[10:25]<@jacky> PCdoc: x-chat ok. I bet it has a programming lang associated with it
[10:25]<@BC_Programming> I think it uses Python or Perl, or perhaps either
[10:25]<@jacky> you might like to make some little things for it... to make it just like YOU want it
[10:25]<@jacky> BC_Programming: that rings a bell
[10:26]<@jacky> and is therefore more useful, later, than mIRC's unique lang ... isn't it?
[10:27]<@BC_Programming> I imagien so, at least it's easier to find folks fluent in Python and Perl I would imagine
[10:28]<@BC_Programming> mIRC doesn't use TCL does it? I get confused- that is eggdrop that uses TCL, not mIRC? and mIRC has some secret special language of some sort
[10:30]<Erika> meow
[10:30]<@jacky> Eggdrop uses TCL which is a stand alone scripting lang (with some special Eggdrop specific TCL commands in addition to regular TCL)
[10:31]<@jacky> mIRC uses its own unique lang, which causes many to really put it down
[10:31]<@jacky> I'm not a real programmer, so I can't look at the mIRC scripting lang and say it is great, or it sucks, or whatever
[10:31]<@jacky> I just do little things in it, for my own happiness
[10:31]<@BC_Programming> I think mIRC was around before the whole "stick other scripting languages in your program" thing was mainstream though
[10:32]<@jacky> for TCL, I just learned it on my own... so whatever I write might be FAR from what would be considered "good". I just try to make things work properly.
[10:32]<@jacky> BC_Programming: that could be a good point
[10:32]<@BC_Programming> one way to think of mIRC script is more as a very specialized configuration I suppose. It might not always be clean, but if you can get it to work the way you want that doesn't really matter
[10:33]<Erika> meoww
[10:33]<Erika> mreowwreowwwreowwwmeowww
[10:34]<@jacky> BC_Programming: Yes. for either mIRC or TCL scripting (for eggdrop), we're not trying to do what you do... do code that is professional, and therefore the parties paying for it can fairly expect it to be conventional.
[10:34]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: u dont login to fb much often ? :P
[10:35]<@BC_Programming> PCDoc no I ignored your request
[10:35]<Erika> fb is stupid
[10:35]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: np
[10:36]<@BC_Programming> no offense... even my brother isn't on my fb
[10:36]<PCdoc> someone suggested to do so .. never mind ..
[10:36]<@BC_Programming> it was camerongray wasn't it
[10:37]<@BC_Programming> CONFESS
[10:37]<PCdoc> yeah ...
[10:37]<PCdoc> whats wrong in it ?
[10:37]<@BC_Programming> lol
[10:53]<+camerongray> Lol! turns out all our outgoing emails today were stuck in a queue :P
[11:02]<PCdoc> time to go home ...
[11:02]<PCdoc> brb ... 12hrs
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[13:39]<+camerongray> He can't even work seasons! <db100547> guitar_man: yep. winter time ( Fall) where you are .
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> bahaha
[13:40]<+camerongray> And he's got a 'pet project' that is 'status: operative'
[13:42]<+camerongray> I've got my own project at work (http://www.datameld.net/) - Status: Kinda works but needs a lot of prodding
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[13:58]<PixelsintheBlood> hello
[13:59]<@BC_Programming> wb :)
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[13:59]<@Mulreay> thx friend :)
[14:01]<@Mulreay> I think I've passed the issues I had... he says. But I feel better and I'm missing my friends. Hope you guys don't mind me stepping back in.
[14:02]<@BC_Programming> course not good to have you about again
[14:02]<@BC_Programming> felt like the channel was missing a piece heh
[14:06]<@Mulreay> That's a kind thing to say BC_Programming... not the 'course not good to have you about again' but the other stuff. I have truly missed this channel but it has been good. I've taken stock and no I'm not fixed but I have more knowledge on why I get so down but I won't bore you with that. Glad to be around again.
[14:12]<@Mulreay> OK will be around some other time to bridge some gaps.
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[14:15]<+camerongray> Welcome back!
[14:15]<+camerongray> Balls!
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> lol
[14:29]<@BC_Programming> oh so apparently we are moving
[14:29]<@BC_Programming> like
[14:29]<@BC_Programming> today
[14:29]<@BC_Programming> wow
[14:29]<@BC_Programming> thanks for the warning huh
[14:30]<+camerongray> Oh, to a better place?
[14:30]<@BC_Programming> upstairs
[14:30]<+camerongray> Ahh, that's easier
[14:30]<@BC_Programming> I'm pretty sure my Mum is only doing it so I can't leave
[14:31]<+camerongray> And it means they have gone!
[14:31]<+camerongray> Why wouldn't you be ableto leave?
[14:31]<@BC_Programming> because it's too expensive for them to afford without me
[14:31]<+camerongray> Ahh :(
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[14:31]<@BC_Programming> she does it on purpose I'm almost sure
[14:31]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:31]<+camerongray> Then again, expensive probably means better
[14:31]<@BC_Programming> well they moved out but they probably didn't clean anything at all
[14:32]<+camerongray> Ahh :P
[14:32]<+camerongray> Get your parcels back? :P
[14:32]<+camerongray> So will that give you your own office?
[14:32]<@BC_Programming> It will give me my own bedroom
[14:32]<@BC_Programming> I was considering the idea of renting the downstairs myself, I'd still be able to afford to help them and stuff
[14:33]<+camerongray> Ahh nice :P
[14:33]<@BC_Programming> I haven't told anybody yet... this basement place would be impossible to rent I think though so the landlords would probably jump at the idea
[14:33]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:33]<@BC_Programming> I'll probably wait until I have money actually in-hand though haha
[14:33]<+camerongray> Bet places where you are are so much cheaper than here!
[14:33]<@BC_Programming> basement is 650
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> upstairs is apparently 950
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> a month
[14:34]<+camerongray> WOW!
[14:34]<+camerongray> This flat which is 3 bedrooms, 1 small bathroom, a second shower, kitchen/living room is £1050/mo
[14:34]<+camerongray> $1722.16 (CAD)
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> haha oh wow
[14:35]<+camerongray> £350 for me alone
[14:35]<+camerongray> I could rent your basement :P
[14:35]<+camerongray> Good area though
[14:35]<+camerongray> Then again, in Edinburgh there aren't many bad areas
[14:36]<+camerongray> And even then, they aren't like gangs or anything
[14:36]<@BC_Programming> hmm if I was to rent the basement and help them with the difference on the rent with the upstairs I'd still have 1290/mo for everything else, that would definitely work
[14:36]<+camerongray> Oh yeah!
[14:36]<+camerongray> Well, you get gangs here, but they are funny since they are kids trying to be tough
[14:36]<@BC_Programming> technically I don't <have> to help them but there is no way they could afford it otherwise and I feel sorta obligated
[14:36]<+camerongray> "Yeah, you look so gangsta because you are in the kids playpark after dark"
[14:37]<+camerongray> What sort of area are you in?
[14:37]<@BC_Programming> well it's an hours walk to any shop which is a PITA
[14:37]<+camerongray> Ahh
[14:38]<@BC_Programming> This Thurs/Fri is when I get paid first time
[14:38]<@BC_Programming> much to do then
[14:38]<+camerongray> Sweet!
[14:39]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[14:39]<@BC_Programming> should be able to re-open my bank account
[14:39]<@BC_Programming> And since AFAIK I still have a savings account they can't stop me from using that if nothing else
[14:40]<@BC_Programming> and the exorbinant usage fees on the savings account makes it more likely to be saved lol
[14:42]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:42]<+camerongray> This is the general area where I am: https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Marchmont%2C+66+Marchmont+Rd%2C+Edinburgh%2C+UK&data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-3.192052!3d55.938152!2m2!1f93.19!2f92.41!4f75!2m4!1e1!2m2!1sASgRBCLQbq88b2S8MFgVKA!2e0!4m10!1m9!4m8!1m3!1d37763987!2d-95.677068!3d37.0625!3m2!1i1920!2i1112!4f13.1&fid=5
[14:42]<+camerongray> So nice and central
[14:44]<@BC_Programming> sigh... kind of frustrating, to be 'locked in' like this
[14:44]<@BC_Programming> and I don't even know if my job isn't some crazy scam or something
[14:44]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah, somehow doubt that though
[14:44]<@BC_Programming> me too
[14:45]<@BC_Programming> so at least I'll have monies, that is a step in the right direction
[14:45]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:46]<@BC_Programming> ugh freaking work VPN is totally down
[14:46]<+camerongray> At least your phone and email works :P
[14:47]<@BC_Programming> yeah for now
[14:47]<+camerongray> Was quite funny though, managing director was exploding
[14:47]<@BC_Programming> knowing my parents they'll fsck something up somehow or piss off a representative and we won't have internet for a week
[14:47]<+camerongray> We were all chatting while he was fixing it, then one guy bursts out laughing "Look at his face"
[14:47]<+camerongray> At which point he yelled something about the DHCP server :P
[14:48]<+camerongray> I know, I hate it when parents check the file system! :P
[14:48]<@BC_Programming> lol
[14:48]<@BC_Programming> that was my colorful way to censor
[14:48]<+camerongray> lol
[14:48]<+camerongray> Got a new tape measure :D
[14:49]<+camerongray> After I... err... investigated how the other one worked
[14:49]<@BC_Programming> this makes no sense... nmap scan of the Domain for the VPN doesn't show an open port for VPN connections
[14:51]<+camerongray> Are they still open to give them a call
[14:51]<+camerongray> ?
[14:51]<@BC_Programming> hahaha
[14:51]<@BC_Programming> nobody is ever in the office silly
[14:51]<+camerongray> Ahh
[14:51]<@BC_Programming> it's all remote
[14:51]<@BC_Programming> so it's either my end, or really closed or crashed or something
[14:51]<@BC_Programming> I figure nobody will notice until tomorrow though, I don't think anybody is doing anything today
[14:52]<@BC_Programming> I did connect yesterday and see if I had any new WO's or memos on my existing ones and didn't see anything
[14:52]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[14:52]<@BC_Programming> heh now to do the crazy and try to connect in my Virtual Machine lol
[14:54]<@BC_Programming> I get error 800 on both my laptop and desktop, though that doesn't really tell me a lot
[14:54]<@BC_Programming> VM has the same error
[14:54]<@BC_Programming> I need a cheap netbook or something just so I can get a third opinion
[14:58]<@BC_Programming> it may be time to try a reboot
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[15:23]<@BC_Programming> this is f-ing retarded
[15:23]<@BC_Programming> I'm about ready to just smash my laptop into fecking bits
[15:23]<jamer> might be their end
[15:23]<@BC_Programming> thankfully I'm aware that won't magically fix the VPN connection
[15:23]<@BC_Programming> Of course since I need the F*** CONNECTION TO DO ANY WORK it's a bit important
[15:24]<@BC_Programming> I'd say the server was down if it wasn't responding to http
[15:29]<@BC_Programming> tried flushing my DNS, tried renewing the IP lease
[15:29]<@BC_Programming> I'm out of ideas
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[16:08]<+camerongray> I'm convinced DB has me on ignore now :P
[16:08]<+camerongray> Oh no, he's just very slow :P
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[16:43]<+camerongray> Hey Magiobiwan
[16:44]<+camerongray> Right
[16:44]<+camerongray> I give up
[16:44]<+camerongray> Hey Mulreay*
[16:44]<@Mulreay> hey camerongray
[16:45]<@Mulreay> I was asked to come back so I did... I know stupid yeah
[16:46]<+camerongray> Nah, good to have you back
[16:46]<@Mulreay> thx friend
[16:47]<+camerongray> Moocher hasn't been in in a while but he's a really nice guy, you should chat to him when you see him
[16:47]<+camerongray> Jacky and him chatted about cars for hours! :P
[16:47]<+camerongray> ... Old people ... *sniggers* :P
[16:47]<@Mulreay> I will do, I hate myself for that complete fail
[16:48]<@Mulreay> But I was in a bad place.. I'm better now
[16:48]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah, no problem!
[16:48]<+camerongray> You had a lostcoast day :P
[16:49]<@Mulreay> heh, a loastcoast month would be more exact..
[16:49]<@Mulreay> lostcoast*
[16:50]<+camerongray> lol
[16:53]<@Mulreay> I'm supposed to do the transfer of the PC tomorrow
[16:54]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, forgot about that
[16:54]<@Mulreay> Me too
[16:55]<@Mulreay> I get paid from YouTube in 2 weeks and I will get my GPU... I think I should do it then
[16:56]<+camerongray> Sweet!
[16:56]<@Mulreay> For crossfire
[16:57]<@Mulreay> Actually I will livestream it anyway and see what you guys think
[17:03]<@Mulreay> OK this may end in tears... the livestream is set for 8pm tomorrow
[17:05]<@Mulreay> camerongray let me know if you cannot make it..
[17:06]<+camerongray> Should be able to
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