Session Start: Thu Aug 29 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[00:39]<PCdoc> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php?topic=139727.msg888811;boardseen#new this post ..
[00:40]<PCdoc> i adviced to install adobe flash player to the topic starter, where the flash player install files automatically upgrades the previous version without having to remove the older
[00:40]<PCdoc> Patio: On that note PCDoc he may want to run the Flash removal tool from the same site 1st...it removes all older remnants ...as they have been known to cause issues as well.
[00:40]<PCdoc> no .. he is wrong !!
[00:40]<PCdoc> its not required ..
[01:07]<PCdoc> spam attack on forums ..
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[03:37]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: Yeah, looks nice but would rather have brown switches :P
[03:37]<@BC_Programming> but it has backlighting!
[03:38]<@BC_Programming> but yeah I'm a bit torn as to whether to go with that one or one for WASD... actually could even buy a keyboard directly from Unicomp
[03:39]<@BC_Programming> http://pckeyboard.com/page/UKBD/UNI0P4A
[03:39]<@BC_Programming> "Ultra Classic" as opposed to regular classic I guess
[04:14]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah, they are very different
[04:14]<+camerongray> Hard to describe :P
[04:14]<+camerongray> The Unicomps are *clack* the cherrys are *click*
[04:15]<+camerongray> And BS is a lot heavier than most cherry switches
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[05:21]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: why are u so good at throwing harsh words?? there can be better ways of saying :(
[05:22]<@BC_Programming> you have a strange definition of "harsh words"
[05:22]<PCdoc> Instead of using Microsoft Internet Explorer, I would suggest you to try out either Mozilla Firefox or if you are using chrome, well n good.
[05:22]<PCdoc> This forum is not for you to profess your subjective browser preferences in lieu of providing actual assistance.
[05:22]<PCdoc> this was not necessary.
[05:23]<@BC_Programming> I'll decide what is "necessary" thanks. And considering the "That is completely wrong" crap you pulled in here I found you're lack of actionable advice in the topic hypocritical at best
[05:26]<PCdoc> sometimes you show more attitude than lc, i was thrown away from the chat and later on insulted by u on the forums. I admitted it was y mistake to post all that crap on the forums. Now i am trying to create a better image on the forums keeping or throwing the poor image created on the chat
[05:26]<PCdoc> my*
[05:28]<PCdoc> i may not go again there on chat now ..
[05:28]<@BC_Programming> look, if somebody is being stupid, I don't really care who it is or what my association with them is, I'll call them on it. I'm not going to treat you different just because you hang out in this channel. And the fact is that you keep posting LINKS to these threads, so I see the msooner and thus respond, and you act all betrayed because I didn't "side" with you, as if I should give a crap
[05:29]<+camerongray> To be fair, I'd have to go with BC on this, fixing an issue with a browser is better than just using another, lots of people like IE, it's not the best but if that's what they like it's fine
[05:29]<+camerongray> In fact, new versions of IE are gettig a lot better
[05:29]<@BC_Programming> IE8 was like the turnaround point
[05:30]<PCdoc> camerongray: ok, i should not have said that. but werent there better ways of saying it??
[05:30]<@BC_Programming> My point was more or less that the post was just talking about Firefox features and stuffs
[05:30]<+camerongray> BC's wording looks fine to me
[05:31]<PCdoc> i dont know .. i feel like bc is against me on everything
[05:31]<@BC_Programming> No, I'm against things that are wrong... if you feel like I'm always against you, then it's because I find you usually wrong
[05:33]<@BC_Programming> I think perhaps you are also interpreting what I say incorrectly or something
[05:33]<@BC_Programming> trust me you will know when you get on my bad side or something
[05:33]<@BC_Programming> If you look through the forum search there was this doofus called "Azzaboi" if you can find some of my replies to his posts you will know what I mean, lol
[05:34]<+camerongray> If I said something wrong, BC would correct me :P
[05:34]<+camerongray> Then if I were an op I'd kick him
[05:34]<@BC_Programming> but you arent so ha
[05:34]<PCdoc> i always try to post on the forums keeping in mind that someone would quote me and reply with stating m wrong. Yeah sometimes i may go wrong.. but your such replies can make ppl like Allan, who is unknown to me .. or other moderators wld think m a jerk or ...
[05:35]<PCdoc> camerongray: yeah but he wont say that in front of everyone
[05:35]<PCdoc> to u *
[05:35]<+camerongray> Of course he would!
[05:35]<@BC_Programming> so wait... I'm supposed to try to preserve your image?
[05:35]<PCdoc> camerongray: yeah u will say that now
[05:35]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: no .. looks u know there's no one on the forums or chat who has the gutts to argue with u and your words
[05:36]<PCdoc> and u know that
[05:36]<@BC_Programming> That's not true, I've argued and debated with numerous people on CH forums
[05:36]<+camerongray> BC always gets in arguments :P
[05:36]<PCdoc> even if i continue in here .. i will be like left with nothing to say .. so better i stop :(
[05:36]<PCdoc> camerongray: yeah i agree with u there
[05:36]<+camerongray> PCdoc: He disagreed with you, it's not the end of the world!
[05:37]<PCdoc> camerongray: i'll see u some other time grrr ...
[05:37]<PCdoc> anyways, i gotta go on a call .. the clients been waiting for me
[05:37]<@BC_Programming> ok db
[05:38]<+camerongray> hehe, I was about to say that :P
[05:38]<@BC_Programming> haha
[05:38]<PCdoc> db ?? wtf m not him
[05:38]<+camerongray> Joking!
[05:38]<@BC_Programming> db always talks about his 'clients' and stuff
[05:38]<PCdoc> cya ..
[05:38]<+camerongray> db always keeps "Going on very important calls"
[05:38]<@BC_Programming> except presumably you actually have clients, I doubt db does
[05:38]<+camerongray> yeah :P
[05:39]<PCdoc> yeah thats my business, i run comp shop for chip level repairing and stuffs
[05:39]<+camerongray> Nice!
[05:39]<+camerongray> Got an amusing call at work the other day from the datacenter "Our monitoring system says that two of your servers are down, we went to check but they aren't there" - Err, that's because we removed them :P
[05:39]<PCdoc> and thats why i come to chat and forums to learn more as much as i can
[05:39]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[05:40]<@BC_Programming> lol you should have flipped out
[05:40]<@BC_Programming> "What do you mean they aren't there? LET ME TALK TO YOUR SUPERVISOR"
[05:40]<PCdoc> c ya .
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[05:40]<@BC_Programming> haha PCDoc is so much fun
[05:41]<@BC_Programming> I practically troll him on purpose because I know he all like "oh no you didn't 100% back me up, why so harsh"
[05:41]<Zuwer> Sharing the love there.
[05:41]<+camerongray> lol
[05:42]<+camerongray> I'm getting confused with myself!
[05:42]<@BC_Programming> how is that working
[05:42]<+camerongray> Do I buy a CGA adapter for £15, see if it works with the XT and then buy a MDA monitor for £60, or do I just buy the MDA monitor!
[05:42]<jamer> Lok
[05:42]<@BC_Programming> what happened with the VGA?
[05:43]<Zuwer> Take the risk, if it ends up being a waste, don't blame me.
[05:43]<+camerongray> Doesn't work, think the card is dodgy
[05:43]<+camerongray> Seller is accepting a return
[05:43]<@BC_Programming> also might not work in an XT after all
[05:43]<@BC_Programming> could require an AT
[05:43]<@BC_Programming> Or it might use the 12v
[05:43]<+camerongray> They said it did though
[05:43]<@BC_Programming> recall you cut that
[05:43]<+camerongray> Nah, not connected
[05:43]<+camerongray> Machine sees the card, but makes the "Video error" beep
[05:43]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[05:44]<@BC_Programming> if it uses +12 it could do that
[05:44]<@BC_Programming> or -12... or whichever you disconnected
[05:44]<@BC_Programming> I think it is pin 9 from the card edge at the connectors
[05:44]<@BC_Programming> if there is a pin there, it uses 12v
[05:45]<+camerongray> Nah, no pin
[05:45]<jamer> Ohio and fog ...
[05:45]<@BC_Programming> this pic
[05:45]<@BC_Programming> http://www.vgamuseum.info/images/stories/vlask/trident/tvga9000ifb.jpg
[05:46]<+camerongray> I mean, it POSTS fine with the MGA card so using that seems like a good idea, but a CGA card is a lot cheaper if it doesn't work
[05:46]<@BC_Programming> did you know you can install a monochrome and a color monitor and switch between them
[05:46]<+camerongray> Ahh, the 12v is on the other side
[05:46]<@BC_Programming> LIES
[05:47]<+camerongray> hehe
[05:48]<+camerongray> this is the monitor: http://www.ccworld.co.uk/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_158&products_id=1746
[05:48]<@BC_Programming> it looks like the pins aren't staggered on either side though, like they run parallel on each side
[05:49]<+camerongray> Ahh, decided! Need to get the CGA to run Windows
[05:49]<@BC_Programming> eww
[05:51]<+camerongray> eww at CGA or eww at Windows?
[05:51]<Craig> Morning guys, :P
[05:52]<Craig> ... all hours and you're still arguing about stuff :p
[05:52]<@BC_Programming> hao Craig
[05:52]<@BC_Programming> you wanna fight about it
[05:52]<@BC_Programming> lol
[05:53]<jamer> Lol
[05:53]<+camerongray> Hey Craig
[05:53]<Craig> I am soooo tired... :(
[05:53]<Craig> I don' wanna go to work! :(
[05:53]<jamer> So I took a practice a+ test yesterday (no schooling) and got a 72% on it
[05:54]<@BC_Programming> Craig: come on now that's quitter talk
[05:54]<@BC_Programming> this is what happens when you don't drink coffee
[05:54]<Craig> Bahahahah
[05:54]<Craig> Nah this is from only getting 6 hours of sleep :P
[05:54]<Craig> and working 2 hours away at 8 am
[05:55]<Craig> Anyway, lar guys
[05:55]<Craig> later*
[05:55]<@BC_Programming> later
[05:58]<@BC_Programming> heh so the dev lead phoned yesterday about my hours... approaching 80 and that's kinda the upper limit management sets for each pay period
[05:58]<@BC_Programming> so I'll probably get most of tomorrow and friday off
[05:58]<@BC_Programming> Also, apparently what I've done so far in two weeks is far beyond what the previous guy they tried had in two months
[05:59]<+camerongray> nice!
[05:59]<@BC_Programming> I guess it helps to know what you are doing most of the time as well
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[06:02]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: In your mind of crazy knowledge, can an MDA monitor work on a CGA card?
[06:03]<jamer> A+ certification is gonna suck ...
[06:03]<@BC_Programming> I'm pretty sure no
[06:04]<+camerongray> Aww
[06:04]<+camerongray> Soo... what do I get :P
[06:05]<@BC_Programming> well I'd say VGA but since you had to cut the 12v I think that's off the table
[06:05]<@BC_Programming> oh
[06:05]<@BC_Programming> you could replace the power supply I suppose
[06:05]<+camerongray> Nah, the VGA doesn't need 12 :P
[06:06]<@BC_Programming> But dude it has a pin 9
[06:06]<@BC_Programming> it uses it on the front of the board :/
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[06:06]<@BC_Programming> oh wait
[06:06]<@BC_Programming> did you test it in another machine first? I thought you had another machine with ISA
[06:07]<+camerongray> Nah, couldn't find it
[06:07]<+camerongray> It defo uses the other side :P
[06:07]<+camerongray> Since that's the side I tested with the multimeter and found the short on
[06:09]<@BC_Programming> Pin 7 and Pin 9 are -12 and +12 respectively
[06:10]<+camerongray> Yeah and 8 is ground IIRC
[06:10]<@BC_Programming> pi n1 is ground
[06:11]<@BC_Programming> I think pin 8 must be ground too though
[06:11]<@BC_Programming> http://pinouts.ru/Slots/ISA_pinout.shtml
[06:12]<+camerongray> Yeah, that says +12 is on the solder side
[06:13]<+camerongray> I suppose I'll get the CGA card first, see if it works, then go from there
[06:14]<+camerongray> Being in the UK, they legally have to accept a return if I don't like it
[06:14]<@BC_Programming> What DOS version were you able to get btw
[06:14]<+camerongray> 5 I think
[06:15]<+camerongray> But I must have ended up with like 200 floppys, if not more
[06:15]<+camerongray> At least 50 blank ones too!
[06:15]<@BC_Programming> you had to put them on 360K
[06:15]<@BC_Programming> or so help you if the drive is 160K
[06:15]<+camerongray> Hmm
[06:16]<+camerongray> What would DOS 5 be on?
[06:16]<@BC_Programming> Normally 3-1/2" disks
[06:17]<+camerongray> Oh no, this is 5.25
[06:17]<@BC_Programming> they also came on those too
[06:17]<@BC_Programming> just 3-1/2" was like the "standard" one
[06:18]<+camerongray> Ahh
[06:19]<+camerongray> I suppose those 5.25s will be too high capcity for the XT though
[06:19]<@BC_Programming> XT can go to 360K DD
[06:19]<+camerongray> There's 5 of them if that helps
[06:19]<@BC_Programming> 5 of what?
[06:20]<+camerongray> Floppys in the set
[06:20]<@BC_Programming> oh you have the disks?
[06:20]<+camerongray> Yeah
[06:21]<@BC_Programming> oh ok
[06:22]<@BC_Programming> does it have a little notch on each side?
[06:22]<@BC_Programming> one side is the write-protect bit
[06:22]<@BC_Programming> if there is a notch on the other side, the disks are also HD 1.2MB diskettes
[06:22]<jamer> Work uniforns ...
[06:24]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: No notches
[06:24]<@BC_Programming> sounds like 360K then
[06:24]<@BC_Programming> it probably doesn't have a write protect notch on purpose
[06:24]<@BC_Programming> (eg to keep it write protected)
[06:25]<+camerongray> Nice!
[06:26]<@BC_Programming> yeah the 3-1/2" diskettes did something similar, the OS diskettes would not have the movable bit so they would always be write protected
[06:27]<+camerongray> Yeah, seen some of them
[06:27]<+camerongray> I still remember puting tape over the hole on VHS tapes :P
[06:28]<+camerongray> What do you think of this card, very little info but looks CGA: http://www.ccworld.co.uk/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_85&products_id=1191
[06:31]<+camerongray> Nice, I'm famous: http://www.minuszerodegrees.net/vcf_motherboard_failure_history.htm
[06:31]<+camerongray> They added me to the list!
[06:33]<@BC_Programming> lol
[06:33]<@BC_Programming> now that you've accomplished your lifetime ambition, what are you going to do with yourself?
[06:34]<@BC_Programming> I'm going to look through my old Add-on cards
[06:34]<@BC_Programming> I think I scrapped a bunch but I seem to remember some ISA Video adapters
[06:35]<@BC_Programming> If I find some I could ship em out to you on Sept. 5th/6th
[06:35]<+camerongray> Hmm, tempting :P
[06:36]<+camerongray> What do you think of that one I linked though?
[06:36]<+camerongray> Worth a shot I suppose, worst case I lose £1.50 postage to return it!
[06:36]<@BC_Programming> Can't really tell what it is
[06:36]<@BC_Programming> not familiar with the lower connector so don't really know
[06:37]<@BC_Programming> clearly it's some sort of video adapter, I mean it says right on it
[06:37]<+camerongray> lol!
[06:37]<+camerongray> Think the connectors are DB-9 CGA and composite
[06:39]<@BC_Programming> I may have tossed them
[06:39]<@BC_Programming> if I find any I'll try to make sure they work first
[06:40]<+camerongray> Ahh, nice"!
[06:40]<@BC_Programming> oh that will be hard I just remembered I don't actually have any ISA systems
[06:40]<@BC_Programming> all the more reason to give them away I suppose if I find them heh
[06:42]<@BC_Programming> nah
[06:42]<@BC_Programming> looks like I tossed em
[06:42]<+camerongray> Aww :P
[06:42]<+camerongray> No problem
[06:42]<jamer> ... technical names of connectors XD
[06:43]<jamer> Main reason I got a 72% on my practice test XD
[06:45]<+camerongray> Really tempted to get this: http://www.ccworld.co.uk/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1746
[06:46]<@BC_Programming> I did find tow USB 2.0 PCI Cards
[06:49]<jamer> Bc ive got cards like thay
[06:51]<jamer> When i switch cases ill put my card in
[06:58]<jamer> Also ill have to rotate my fan ... stupid sff case
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[08:24]<PCdoc> i hate it when ppl call for comp repair and while doing so ask to excuse and come tomorrow coz they gotta go shopping ?? !!
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[08:24]<@BC_Programming> PCDoc lol!
[08:24]<PCdoc> what a reason to excuse i mean ...
[08:27]<PCdoc> i dont understand why does a branded machine like especially HP's chassis are always made up of hard metal and when u try to lift the machine/cabinet omg its so heavy ..
[08:27]<PCdoc> why make it so heavy? unlike assembled comp cabinets they are so light
[08:29]<@BC_Programming> my PC is self built and it's frikkin heavy
[08:31]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: have u seen this ?? https://www.google.co.in/#q=do+a+barrel+roll
[08:31]<PCdoc> i was searching for something and suddenly happened
[08:32]<@BC_Programming> yes that's old
[08:32]<PCdoc> lol i was searching for something it started rolling and i was like omg what happened
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[09:25]<+Tux2> So, how goes the job BC_Programming?
[09:26]<@BC_Programming> good
[09:26]<@BC_Programming> 79 hours so far, going to try to fix up one last thing for the last hour before Sun.
[09:26]<@BC_Programming> they prefer if I don't go past 80
[09:28]<@BC_Programming> So far I've created a Java jar to display parameterized Jasper Reports from a PostGreSQL database, which takes command line parameters from the C# Application to either display the report, export it to a PDF file or print it to a printer, as well as reworking that front end C# Application extensively and creating a "report Filter Viewer" for listing all the Report Filters and running them as
[09:28]<@BC_Programming> needed... Two C# Applications and a Java JAR using Swing
[09:29]<@BC_Programming> in two weeks, Thought I was going slow but apparently the guy they tried to hire a few months ago to do pretty much the same thing just sorta fumbled around for a few months and wasn't even able to create a working jarfile...
[09:31]<@BC_Programming> how are things your end Tux2?
[09:34]<+Tux2> Doing good BC_Programming :) I went to build-a-bear 2 days ago, got my very own Princess Twilight Sparkle plushie, as well as meeting another brony. :)
[09:34]<+camerongray> Only you :P
[09:35]<@BC_Programming> coolness
[09:36]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: join us
[09:37]<@BC_Programming> I'm going to take that as a maybe
[09:37]<+camerongray> haha
[09:44]<+Tux2> lol
[09:50]<@BC_Programming> hmm so apparently I actually have a good grasp of C Pointers
[09:52]<@BC_Programming> I promise to only use this power for good
[09:53]<+Tux2> lol BC_Programming
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[10:00]<PCdoc> RIP camerongray :(
[10:00]<+camerongray> lol
[10:03]<PCdoc> camerongray: pm !
[10:04]<PCdoc> wow! i gotta run catch fuel pump .. :-s
[10:04]<PCdoc> else i'll have to go walking .. home 11kms :(
[10:05]<PCdoc> brb ... 15hrs ..
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[11:49]<@BC_Programming> there maxed out my timecard
[11:49]<@BC_Programming> should get 81.5 Hours on my first pay woot
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[12:13]<+Tux2> Nice BC_Programming!
[12:13]<@BC_Programming> he said he'd let me work 24 hours a day if I was willing but the managers frown on that lol
[12:15]<@BC_Programming> that's a gross of a bit over 1K, and I didn't even really "do anything" I mean I did, but I just programmed like I always do... haha
[12:15]<cr0c0di13> hope not 7 days a week too :s
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> everybody seems to go offline on the weekend
[12:16]<cr0c0di13> i've been offline since 9/10/01
[12:17]<@BC_Programming> ?
[12:17]<cr0c0di13> 3 neck surgeries and still had too much pain to concentrate on work
[12:17]<@BC_Programming> well I meant on skype
[12:18]<cr0c0di13> Oh, sorry. i thought it was reply to may 7 days a week...
[12:18]<@BC_Programming> it was... I was saying everybody goes offline on the weekend.. It's work from home stuff
[12:19]<@BC_Programming> I basically get paid 14/hr (entry level atm) to do what I usually do and just fiddle about on the computer and programming and whatnot, just on certain projects
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> get up in the morning "time for the commute" walk 2 feet to my chair
[12:20]<cr0c0di13> sounds sweet to me ;)
[12:20]<cr0c0di13> no need to change clothes either
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> hmm never thought of that
[12:21]<cr0c0di13> hey Tux2 this is bling/skilz
[12:22]<+Tux2> Hey
[12:23]<+Tux2> So, today I'm working on reloading a windows 2000 computer... Not too much fun when nothing works on it anymore
[12:23]<@BC_Programming> not fond of some of the design of the Application as a whole, but I figure as I show my abilities and get respect for them I might be able to slowly influence changes
[12:23]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: good luck
[12:24]<+Tux2> lol, right? I still have all the downloads of all the programs I used on it last time
[12:24]<+Tux2> This time I'm doing it as a hybrid windows 2000/Lubuntu 13.04 system
[12:24]<@BC_Programming> Yeah W2K is OK, you just have to know the right versions of the software
[12:24]<@BC_Programming> most apps dropped support... like Firefox and whatnot
[12:24]<@BC_Programming> I'm not even sure if Chrome ever supported W2K
[12:24]<+Tux2> Never did
[12:25]<+Tux2> He's basically seeing the age of his hardware as well since nothing new works on it
[12:25]<+Tux2> Thereby the hybrid system
[12:25]<+Tux2> 256MB of RAM
[12:25]<+Tux2> Surprisingly Lubuntu works well on it
[12:25]<@BC_Programming> I ran W2K with 32MB of RAM on a Cyrix M-II before haha
[12:26]<+Tux2> lol, nice
[12:26]<+Tux2> But yeah, I told him he'll need a new computer next time it dies on him
[12:26]<+Tux2> He asked me how much it would be for me to put windows 8 on it!
[12:26]<@BC_Programming> hahaha
[12:26]<cr0c0di13> Tux2: you remember neuro that started that FB app?
[12:27]<+Tux2> I do, why?
[12:27]<cr0c0di13> he actually paid me @ $75 for my efforts
[12:27]<+Tux2> Ah, nice!
[12:28]<+Tux2> I make $25/hour now for programming
[12:28]<cr0c0di13> it worked well for a short time, but then i couldn't get credit for my completions
[12:29]<+Tux2> lol, yeah, that's what usually happens
[12:30]<cr0c0di13> i remember when Lucifer told me about it/him and we were all gonna b millionaires :D
[12:30]<@BC_Programming> I'm trying to decide on the keyboard I'm going to buy... makes sense to replace this aging MS Wireless 500 keyboard if I'm going to use it for my Job... I'm trying to decide between the Code Keyboard: http://codekeyboards.com/ , something from wasdkeyboard.com, or even just a new Unicomp keyboard
[12:31]<+Tux2> lol, I'm not an expert on keyboards, probably best to ask camerongray
[12:31]<cr0c0di13> they were talking about model M keyboards in other channel earlier
[12:31]<+Tux2> or even mulreay
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> yeah camerongray suggested wasdkeyboard, I found code keyboard from the codinghorror blog
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> also apparently Craig posted it on his Google+
[12:31]<cr0c0di13> and i think Unicomp owns right to them now
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> of course nobody saw it
[12:32]<+Tux2> lol
[12:32]<@BC_Programming> yes, but they don't own the right to mechanical keyswitches thus wasdkeyboard and stuff
[12:33]<@BC_Programming> it will be a tricky decision
[12:33]<@BC_Programming> I already tried to replace this keyboard before... didn't go so well
[12:33]<cr0c0di13> am using Comfort 4000 atm
[12:33]<@BC_Programming> got a wireless mouse and keyboard... keyboard is way to spongy and weird for me to use... and uses this dumb arrangement of the Hom/end/etc keys which messes me up
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> ended up just swapping back to this one
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> honestly couldn't say how old it is, I think I bought it the first payday when I started working at my old job
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> so like, February 2008
[12:35]<@BC_Programming> I think I only bought it because my older hand-me-down keyboard broke, lol
[12:35]<@BC_Programming> stupid spacebar metal thingy
[12:36]<@BC_Programming> Arguably, I don't really have to choose between the code keyboard and a wasdkeyboard, I <could> get both... but that seems really dumb
[12:36]<@BC_Programming> just looked up the Comfort 4000... not a fan tbh
[12:37]<@BC_Programming> I have a strong, and perhaps irrational dislike of any non-standard layout
[12:37]<@BC_Programming> even minor things like the size of the return, shift, backspace, etc. keys bug the heck out of me
[12:38]<@BC_Programming> that one would drive me nuts until I got used to it and then using normal keyboards would drive me nuts
[12:40]<cr0c0di13> that
[12:40]<cr0c0di13> that Code KB u linked sound like it
[12:40]<cr0c0di13> 'd be nice if u did a lot of typing
[12:40]<cr0c0di13> sorry for the broken sentences, been up too long :s
[12:40]<@BC_Programming> for some reason the whizbang backlighting woo's me
[12:41]<@BC_Programming> which is a bit dumb since I don't actually look at the keys
[12:41]<cr0c0di13> yep, i read that part and i was sold :)
[12:41]<@BC_Programming> until I become conscious that I'm not looking at the keys when suddenly I start making mistakes
[12:42]<cr0c0di13> have you heard of the HP&C typing method?
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> this is still my favourite line from the synopsis: "However, please do not use the CODE keyboard as a weapon. Unless you have no other choice."
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> googled it
[12:43]<cr0c0di13> Hunt Peck & Cuss
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> I never really learned... like, in a class or with a program, how to "touch type"
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> I just sorta... got faster on my own
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> I don't even know if I type "properly" but I think typing is sort of like brushing teeth
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> No matter how you are doing it, you are doing it wrong
[12:43]<cr0c0di13> and like riding a bike
[12:44]<@BC_Programming> well I was referring more to the "people will always say you are doing something wrong" bit, don't think that really applies to bicycles
[12:44]<cr0c0di13> eh, got on wrong train of thought
[12:44]<@BC_Programming> now you've reminded me I should buy a bicycle as well
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> I'll probably save up for a good one rather than a wal-mart special this time
[12:46]<cr0c0di13> it's been a pleasure, but i gotta get sum rest. hope to be back sooner next time
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> later alligator... I mean cr0c0di13
[12:46]<cr0c0di13> LOL
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> heh
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[12:48]<@BC_Programming> I'm bored... I know, I'll connect my old hard drives to my enclosure and see what lurks within
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[17:01]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: The Code keyboard looks nice, but not sure about the clear switches
[17:01]<@BC_Programming> yeah think you said that already, lol
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[17:21]<jamer> ... this A+ certification stuff is interesting ...
[17:22]<jamer> They label everything by the not known name ... a ps/2 port is a flipping mini-din to them!
[17:24]<+camerongray> lol
[17:24]<@BC_Programming> A+ is useless
[17:40]<jamer> its apart of the course so
[17:42]<jamer> A+ and network+ certification ...
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[21:53]<cr0c0di13> hey ChanbotVII thanks for the warm welcome ;)
[21:54]<cr0c0di13> cyaz later _4lig8r, after while cr0c0di13 :)
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[23:07]<Craig> I don't have any mini-din ports on my computer. :)
[23:08]<cr0c0di13> Craig: is that like a PS2 connector?
[23:08]<cr0c0di13> for some mice and kb's
[23:08]<Craig> Yup
[23:09]<cr0c0di13> all the old pc i've had always had 2, 1 for mouse and 1 for kb, but my newest only has one(which I don't use, as my mouse & kb are usb wireless
[23:13]<cr0c0di13> Craig: does the pc have DB9 female connectors? I think the old com ports b4 PS2 came out.
[23:14]<Craig> I have DB9 on my board, but thats because I was looking for it for all my machines, which 3 are FX series, and the latest is FM2
[23:16]<cr0c0di13> this cable may let you connect PS2 devices: http://www.cablestogo.com/product/25041
[23:16]<Craig> ... why would I want to use din?
[23:16]<cr0c0di13> don't know, i thought that was whole reason u stated ur pc did not have any
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