Session Start: Wed Aug 28 00:00:00 2013
Session Ident: #glitchpc
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Session Start: Wed Aug 28 00:56:00 2013
Session Ident: #glitchpc
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[04:20]<Zuwer> My brother likes making things difficult for us in the future. He wanted to try out his ute in the mud again. He effectively made two nice ruts that runs right through the drainage for a spring, right where we have a heap of scrap metal that needs to taken away is sitting. :(
[04:23]<Zuwer> I really need to invest in actual gumboots for around the property.
[04:25]<+camerongray> I know what some of those words mean :P
[04:25]<Zuwer> Heh.
[04:29]<Zuwer> In simple terms, I dislike working in 1 foot of mud. Ew, quick, back to metrics. Make that 1/3rd of a metre of mud.
[04:30]<+camerongray> Ahh!
[04:40]<Zuwer> I've spent too much time near my granddad, he always uses imperial units, everyone else uses the metric system. :x
[04:41]<+camerongray> Ahh lol
[04:41]<+camerongray> Similar here really
[04:42]<+camerongray> Older people still use imperial but moving to metri
[04:42]<+camerongray> metric*
[04:42]<+camerongray> But road distances are still in miles and speed limits in m/h
[04:42]<Zuwer> Not here, don't use imperial measurements.
[04:42]<+camerongray> Ahh
[04:44]<Zuwer> It's not too bad though, only the vintage cars here use mph, only one of them can actually reach 60mph/100kph.
[04:45]<+camerongray> Ahh, cars here have both on the dials but the mph is much bigger
[04:46]<+camerongray> Mainly for people driving them into Europe where everything is kph
[04:46]<Zuwer> That makes sense.
[04:47]<+camerongray> And we drive on the left :P
[04:47]<+camerongray> Wait, right
[04:47]<+camerongray> No, it's left
[04:47]<Zuwer> The left side is better, that is all I'm saying.
[04:48]<+camerongray> Yes, it's left! :P
[04:49]<Zuwer> Heh, make up your mind.
[04:49]<+camerongray> lol
[04:49]<+camerongray> Yeah, left is correct
[04:50]<Zuwer> Heh.
[06:33]<PCdoc> we have kmph
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Session Start: Wed Aug 28 07:46:16 2013
Session Ident: #glitchpc
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[08:22]<Craig> You guys are strange :P
[08:22]<Craig> See you after work. :)
[08:23]<+camerongray> lol, I'm normal!
[08:23]<+camerongray> And hey Craig
[08:23]<@BC_Programming> KM/H is bigger on speedometer's here
[08:23]<+camerongray> Ahh, but you use metric?
[08:24]<@BC_Programming> yes
[08:24]<+camerongray> YAY!
[08:24]<+camerongray> Got my VGA card for the XT too :D
[08:24]<@BC_Programming> I thought you were excited over Metric
[08:24]<+camerongray> hehe
[08:25]<@BC_Programming> now you can find out how it doesn't work :P
[08:25]<+camerongray> Hehe
[08:25]<+camerongray> And all the parts for my Granny's new PC arrived so I'll go over to build that and when I'm there borrow her copy of MS-DOS on 5.25" floppy
[08:25]<+camerongray> You know, those things grandmothers have
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[08:26]<@BC_Programming> borrow and DISKCOPY
[08:26]<+camerongray> Good idea, she has blank disks too
[08:26]<+camerongray> Normal people go to see their granny and eat cake and talk about the weather - I go and build a PC and borrow old computer stuff
[08:26]<+camerongray> She'll probably just give me it all though, trying to clear out
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[08:27]<@BC_Programming> normal people have unfulfilling and uninteresting lives though. That's why we call them "Normal People"
[08:27]<+camerongray> hehe
[08:27]<+camerongray> She also has an old Null Modem cable, would that be handy for the XT?
[08:27]<@BC_Programming> I don't know
[08:27]<+camerongray> It's DB-9 to DB-25
[08:27]<+camerongray> So could work for shifting files over from an internet connected PC
[08:28]<+camerongray> Will also see if there are any other bits of use, I mean, she has boxes of stuff"!
[08:28]<@BC_Programming> oh right, you don't really have a way to copy files otherwise I guess
[08:28]<+camerongray> I do have a 5.25 disk drive (and a cable somewhere) but not sure if I can get it working on a modernish PC
[08:28]<@BC_Programming> I think you can install 3-1/4" drives into an XT, but only the 720K works
[08:29]<@BC_Programming> actually I'll dig out my ancient PC repair book lol
[08:29]<+camerongray> Hmm, I may have a 3.5 720k (I being my granny) but it's the wrong connector
[08:30]<+camerongray> My uncle gave her his old PCs which she in turn gave to me, but there's still loads of bits I didn't have space for
[08:31]<+camerongray> I do have a 5.25 floppy and ISA controller card for it spare
[08:31]<+camerongray> Does 8 bit ISA work on a 16bit slot?
[08:31]<@BC_Programming> yes
[08:31]<+camerongray> Because I do have a PC with an ISA slot that it may work in then
[08:31]<@BC_Programming> not usually the other way around
[08:32]<@BC_Programming> why do you need a ISA controller card?
[08:32]<PCdoc> g ISA controller
[08:32]<+camerongray> To put the drive in a modernish PC to get data on disk for the XT
[08:32]<@BC_Programming> the floppy drives can connect to modern FDCs
[08:32]<PCdoc> oops!! sorry habbit :-s
[08:32]<@BC_Programming> I had a 5-1/4" drive connected to this computer for a bit
[08:32]<+camerongray> Hmm, I remember doing it in the past but ithe drive never showed up
[08:32]<+camerongray> Will need to try again
[08:33]<@BC_Programming> you do have to change the CMOS to actually tell it what Floppy drive is there
[08:33]<+camerongray> Ahh
[08:33]<+camerongray> Think I did
[08:33]<+camerongray> Will try again
[08:34]<+camerongray> Relised it's in a PC case at my parents' house - Trying to talk my mum through removing it from the PC over Facebook chat :P
[08:34]<@BC_Programming> is it a 1.2MB drive?
[08:36]<+camerongray> Nah, not sure but it's from 1987
[08:40]<+camerongray> If I can find the cable, would the XT's drive work on a modernish PC?
[08:40]<+camerongray> Sempron 2400+ era
[08:41]<@BC_Programming> Probably
[08:46]<+camerongray> Ahh, cool
[08:46]<+camerongray> Hopefully this VGA card will work!
[08:46]<@BC_Programming> what is it exactly? Brand/model I mean
[08:47]<+camerongray> It's a 16bit card but has jumpers to put it in 8bit mode
[08:47]<@BC_Programming> yeah heard of those, I think some early ATI cards had that feature
[08:47]<+camerongray> Trident TVGA9000i-1
[08:49]<+camerongray> Seller says it works on an XT, if it doesn't I can always return it
[08:50]<@BC_Programming> ~1994
[08:50]<+camerongray> Yeah
[08:51]<@BC_Programming> oh I had that exact card
[08:51]<@BC_Programming> I think I used it in my 386
[08:51]<+camerongray> cool
[08:51]<@BC_Programming> hmm mightn otbe the exact one
[08:52]<@BC_Programming> I think the one I had was a 9000c
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[09:17]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: waiting for ur next post in the hardware forum :P btw, the earlier one about the hard disk was a nice post. i miss a Like button unlike facebook :P
[09:22]<PCdoc> wow! the help channel at geekshed got a huge spam attack
[09:35]<+camerongray> Quantos gets more and more in my good books every day!
[09:35]<+camerongray> Just kicked IndianaJoe for recommending DriverAgent :D
[09:35]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[09:36]<+camerongray> You can tell he's trying to be a bit sneaky when advising it (He must get commision or something)
[09:36]<+camerongray> "agent details in PM" was all that he said in the chan
[09:42]<PCdoc> lol
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[10:45]<@BC_Programming> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=191254
[10:45]<@BC_Programming> I just wasted two hours of my life because these douchebags can't do things properly
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[11:27]<@BC_Programming> hey Calum
[11:28]<@Calum> hey BC
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[14:46]<jamer> Ive got dreamspark now
[14:47]<@BC_Programming> good for you
[14:48]<jamer> Also ive got all the autodesk's products ... good old student software
[15:10]<@BC_Programming> Jasper Reports is kind of a pain in the ass
[15:10]<@BC_Programming> PDF Export requires some specific secondary library
[15:10]<@BC_Programming> and oh look
[15:10]<@BC_Programming> it's under GPL
[15:10]<@BC_Programming> so we're basically screwed
[15:13]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: look what I found: http://codekeyboards.com/
[15:14]<@BC_Programming> haha "How do you know its solid? Because it weighs 2.42 pounds. However, please do not use the CODE keyboard as a weapon. Unless you have no other choice."
[15:14]<Craig> Hey BC, did you see my new job?
[15:14]<@BC_Programming> no?
[15:15]<Craig> Also, I posted about that keyboard on my facebook wall :P
[15:15]<Craig> I got a job at Memory Express as a Computer Service Technician! :) Exactly the job I have been trying to get for over a year now. :)
[15:15]<@BC_Programming> cool! congrats
[15:16]<Craig> Thanks!
[15:18]<@BC_Programming> I'm totally going to get one of those keyboards
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[17:19]<@BC_Programming> so there is going to be a company barbecue in a month or so
[17:19]<@BC_Programming> watching the E-mail thread is sorta funny
[17:20]<@BC_Programming> "X is no good for me, what about B"
[17:20]<@BC_Programming> then somebody else says "No, B doesn't work... you free for C"? etc.
[19:02]<Craig> Hey BC_Programming
[19:03]<Craig> do you know what type of packet MySQL uses?
[19:03]<Craig> TCP or UDP?
[19:03]<Nat> probably TCP
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