Session Start: Sun Jul 21 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[00:29]<@jacky> BC_Programming: you around?
[00:29]<@jacky> camerongray: Boo
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[04:44]<PCdoc> the problem is that the laptop is very slow, obviously a general problem where the guest is asking if hdd is at fault or gonna die or how to check
[04:45]<PCdoc> guitarman's question after several questions
[04:45]<PCdoc> <guitarman> guet-78 do you have any external devices attached to the slow laptop or a disk in the optical reader?
[04:45]<PCdoc> wow! this should have been the first question
[04:46]<PCdoc> and there's some girl Nikky jumping to conclusions without diagnosting properly
[04:47]<PCdoc> diagnosing *
[04:51]<Zuwer> That's the correct way to do it isn't it... Try every solution you can think of and THEN diagnose the symptoms.
[04:52]<PCdoc> u r there?? did u see nikky?
[04:53]<PCdoc> the guy is asking how to check if hdd is bad
[04:53]<PCdoc> and she is like ssd is faster than hdd and blah blah
[04:53]<PCdoc> what has that got to do with his question?
[04:54]<PCdoc> if hdd is bad replace hdd
[04:54]<PCdoc> how to check hdd is bad?
[04:54]<Zuwer> I haven't been reading it, but I shall do now.
[04:54]<PCdoc> ssd is better hdd
[04:57]<Zuwer> Ah, yea, I see.
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[05:11]<Zuwer> Well, that was interesting, was trying out Speccy and it locked my machine up completely. :/
[05:13]<+camerongray> Yeah, NIkky does seem to do that, and ask obvious homework/googleable questions
[05:14]<Zuwer> Current version of Speccy crashes during the Video scan, previous versions freeze my machine. Used to work so nicely in 7. D:
[05:14]<+camerongray> Then when their drive was running really slowly and reportng SMART errors with everyone telling them to replace the drive they start bringing up personal issues like "What do I do, my dad will go mad if I ask for a new HDD"
[05:16]<+camerongray> <Nikky> which company is your hard disk
[05:16]<+camerongray> Because that totally tells if it;s faulty
[05:16]<+camerongray> "Hitachi" - Oh, that'll be broken then, if it were Seagate then it would clearly not be the issue
[05:17]<Zuwer> Heh.
[05:18]<Zuwer> All of my HDDs are Seagates, I must be safe then. :)
[05:18]<+camerongray> lol
[05:18]<+camerongray> <Nikky> or the cache memory is less
[05:18]<+camerongray> Because cache makes the difference between a machine being super fast and unusably slow!
[05:19]<Zuwer> Which cache were they meaning? :o
[05:21]<+camerongray> Didn't even say :P
[05:21]<+camerongray> I was assuming it was just a word they had learned in a computing class :P
[05:21]<Zuwer> That helps then, did they mean the buffer on the HDD or something else?
[05:21]<+camerongray> Not a clue! :P
[05:22]<+camerongray> Even then, that wouldn't cause a sudden slowdown
[05:22]<+camerongray> Usually if something is that slow and a reinstall doesn't help it's going to be HDD or RAM
[05:22]<+camerongray> But you kinda need to test to see which :P
[05:23]<Zuwer> You'd think so, yea.
[05:25]<Zuwer> :o Wikipedia has a few examples of that shorthand.
[05:28]<+camerongray> Yep
[05:28]<+camerongray> Other day was what the difference between RAM and ROM was
[05:29]<Zuwer> Hm, should just say volatile, non-volatile.
[05:30]<+camerongray> lol, then get asked what volatile means :P
[05:31]<+camerongray> It's when it gets on to "Where can ROM be found in a computer" it screams homework
[05:32]<Zuwer> Sounds like A+ stuff.
[05:32]<+camerongray> Think it's school stuff
[05:32]<+camerongray> Been there... done that... it was torture :P
[05:32]<Zuwer> Wish my school had taught stuff like that. All we got to do was play with Excel. :(
[05:32]<+camerongray> lol, that was a lot of ours too
[05:33]<+camerongray> Course was thought up by idiots
[05:33]<Zuwer> The "advanced" students got to play with HTML.... x:
[05:34]<Zuwer> Heh, I annoyed all of the computing teachers at some stage. Especially the one that thought there was no way anyone could type faster than the "correct" method of typing.
[05:34]<+camerongray> Get up to "HIgher" level which is a pretty high level (2nd last/last year of school), lots of programming stuff. terminology like RAM and ROM, some CPU architecture, then a practical assignment of "Download a picture from the internet and email it to your teacher"
[05:34]<Zuwer> See, you're lucky, that's more complicated than anything we got assigned to do.
[05:34]<+camerongray> Ahh
[05:35]<+camerongray> Then we get to "Advanced Higher" level, that was much better, have to write a complete piece of software
[05:35]<+camerongray> But for that we had to go to a different school as only one in the city offered it at that level
[05:35]<Zuwer> My teacher got the whole class to sit in rows and columns in chairs to explain how the rows and columns work in excel, it was depressing the number of people that couldn't grasp that concept.
[05:36]<+camerongray> lol!
[05:36]<Zuwer> And I REALLY wish I was kidding.
[05:36]<+camerongray> We did have people standing up demonstrating stacks and queues and sorting :P
[05:37]<+camerongray> The sorting one was fun, "Now read out your numbers" "2, 5, 3, 4" "well, you tried"
[05:37]<+camerongray> We had to take our own laptops in for that and tether to our phones, school machines couldn't cope!
[05:38]<Zuwer> Heh.
[05:39]<Zuwer> I have been meaning to actually learn a language like C. My problem is, I start, then remember I have a whole TV series to watch.
[05:40]<Zuwer> D:
[05:41]<+camerongray> lol!
[05:41]<+camerongray> Not sure how usful C is nowadays though
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[05:42]<+camerongray> <guest_78> guys i have to go its stil talking long time i ll be bk i think in an hour
[05:42]<+camerongray> <Nikky> why
[05:42]<+camerongray> Isn't "I have to go" enough?
[05:43]<Zuwer> I already know stuff like if statements and so on, pretty much no difference to PHP, just sturggling to find the joy in it again. :/
[05:44]<Zuwer> Clearly not, they must know everything about that person. :x
[05:45]<Zuwer> Harsh blow there camerongray, targeting the XP machine. :P
[05:51]<Zuwer> I offered guitar_man this system once I upgrade, he didn't sound too keen because it wouldn't run XP. :s
[05:52]<+camerongray> lol, what was it?
[05:54]<Zuwer> This machine is an i5 2500k, 8GB DDR3-1333 RAM, GA-Z68A,D3H-B3 Mobo, 1x1000GB Seagate, 1x500GB Seagate, 1x120GB Samsung 840, Asus GTX 550 TI.
[05:55]<Zuwer> I'd probably upgrade in a years time.
[05:59]<+camerongray> Wow!
[05:59]<+camerongray> See him now?
[05:59]<+camerongray> Refusing to accept that his machine is pretty new
[06:00]<Zuwer> Hm, didn't think he had one that modern. :o
[06:01]<+camerongray> Well, realistically he could be making it up :P
[06:02]<Zuwer> Last time I was at his house, he had an ancient system, but that one died and now he is on that more modern system. At one stage he was given a system running 7 but didn't like it. I think he returned it.
[06:02]<+camerongray> lol!
[06:02]<+camerongray> I'll never understand some people
[06:03]<Zuwer> I would have taken that 7 machines, mostly to steal the RAM though.
[06:03]<Zuwer> machine*
[06:04]<+camerongray> lol
[06:07]<Zuwer> Hm, since we're finally on a higher cap, can stop annoying web devs and remove adblock and flashblock.
[06:14]<+camerongray> yay!
[06:14]<Zuwer> Heh.
[06:14]<+camerongray> I still remember the classic at work, one guy spent all day trying to test tracking for adverts on a website, couldn't get the ads to show, kept calling the client all day who were trying to find the problem, he had adblock!
[06:15]<Zuwer> Haha.
[06:16]<Zuwer> Would it be bad for me to start saying "One of us! One of us!" in #CH now. (AchievementHunter reference).
[06:17]<+camerongray> hehehe
[06:17]<+camerongray> WOuld be quite funny really
[06:24]<Zuwer> (Joking) Does hating Apple because of the Apple fanboys that try to FORCE you to like their products count?
[06:29]<Zuwer> Although I don't own any Apple products, the stuff I have used that friends and family own, I definitely could see myself buying something like a Macbook, although, not as my main system though.
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[06:35]<+camerongray> Yeah, I hate the fanboys too!
[06:35]<+camerongray> I don't like all their products, but nor do I like all of Lenovo's or all of Dell's
[06:50]<Zuwer> That driveagent software is interesting, ran a scan with it earlier (guitarman was telling me it'd speed my PC up). It was saying the driver I had was bad, compared the version numbers of what it wanted to install and the driver I had. They were exactly the same thing.
[06:51]<+camerongray> lol!
[06:51]<+camerongray> Looks professional: http://esupport.com/products.php
[06:53]<Zuwer> The top two products can be easily replaced by the motherboards manufacturers site, registry clearer, I'll pass. The two "undeleters" can be replaced by other, free software. Seems like effective software.
[06:57]<Zuwer> Probably the scariest thing to do with DriverAgent was a couple of years ago. My old laptop only used the integrated Intel GPU, yet that software wanted me to install an ATI driver. I never understood that one.
[07:01]<Zuwer> I really need to set up an IRC bouncer. :/
[07:01]<+camerongray> Yeah
[07:01]<+camerongray> Quassel is great!
[07:02]<+camerongray> This will be interesting though!
[07:03]<Zuwer> I want to watch it, but I want to lie in bed and use my laptop though. Suppose I could just sign in with another connection and hope lostcoast doesn't try banning me for cloning or something.
[07:03]<+camerongray> lol
[07:03]<+camerongray> Doubt he would
[07:04]<+camerongray> What's he like in real life? :P
[07:04]<+camerongray> "Don't drink that milk, it's not 13 years old yet"
[07:04]<Zuwer> I used to use remote desktop so I could just leave everything running on my desktop. But now I'm running Windows 8, not pro. :(
[07:04]<+camerongray> Ahh
[07:05]<+camerongray> Look into quassel
[07:05]<Zuwer> Heh.
[07:05]<+camerongray> You run the "Core" on a 24/7 PC (I use a £1.50/mo VPS) then the client connects to the core
[07:06]<Zuwer> Ah, that works well, although I'd run the Core on my desktop, not 24/7, more like 24/4.
[07:06]<+camerongray> Ahh, that would still be fine then
[07:07]<Zuwer> I'll look into that tomorrow. I've got the tab open for it so I won't forget. :P
[07:07]<Zuwer> Anyways, time to sign in via laptop.
[07:08]<+camerongray> Nice!
[07:10]<Zuwer> Well, that works too, turns out I had VNC set up, just means changing screen resolution. I can't even remember setting that up now.
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[11:03]<@BC_Programming> lol SuperTweaker deleted his account again
[11:10]<@BC_Programming> PC seems to be running much better after yesterday's clean
[11:10]<@BC_Programming> though might be because it had an 80-day uptime and just needed a reboot lol
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