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Session Start: Fri Jul 19 03:05:09 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [03:05] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[04:06]<Zuwer> Oh, great. Tomorrow I was planning on being lazy. However, it turns out my mum has other plans, tidying up the property. D: The only joy I get is that it means I get the easy job, driving the tractor because I'll be the only one on the property who can.
[04:06]<+camerongray> lol
[04:06]<+camerongray> Tomorrow I've got to pack, moving in a week and hardly started!
[04:06]<Zuwer> Nah. Leave things to the last minute, that always works best. :)
[04:07]<@BC_Programming> cam I thought you were already moved
[04:07]<+camerongray> Not yet :P
[04:07]<+camerongray> Next week
[04:08]<+camerongray> Been prototyping the network already :P
[04:10]<@BC_Programming> ugh don't you hate when people try to say to use an HDD over an SSD because "SSDs wear out faster"
[04:10]<@BC_Programming> I don't use an SSD but I know that's BS. the time it would take for a SSD to actually "wear out" from writes is long after a magnetic platter drive would have been replaced
[04:14]<Zuwer> It's not like they cost all of that much anyway, then again I only bought a cheap one for this PC.
[04:38]<@BC_Programming> ugh
[04:38]<@BC_Programming> I hate when you can't think of a word
[04:39]<@BC_Programming> it took me the last three days to remember pejorative
[04:39]<@BC_Programming> stupid brain
[04:52]<+camerongray> Yeah!
[04:52]<@BC_Programming> I was writing a post
[04:52]<@BC_Programming> and the pe came out
[04:52]<@BC_Programming> and then I was like
[04:52]<@BC_Programming> perogative? pegatory? wtf dammit
[04:55]<@BC_Programming> http://i.imgur.com/r1dNOgM.jpg
[04:57]<+camerongray> bahaha!
[04:58]<@BC_Programming> http://i.imgur.com/ig3tgWZ.png
[04:58]<@BC_Programming> A perfect film for kids, according to the description
[04:59]<+camerongray> bahaha!
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[05:20]<@BC_Programming> http://imgur.com/a/HAPJb#0
[05:20]<@BC_Programming> that's one snazzy spider
[05:21]<+camerongray> eww! :P
[05:21]<@BC_Programming> but he has a hat!
[05:23]<+camerongray> tehehe
[05:24]<@BC_Programming> how animals think: http://i.imgur.com/6ouZmVg.png
[05:27]<+camerongray> lol!
[05:29]<+camerongray> This is some of the most recursive and loopy code that I have written
[05:29]<@BC_Programming> heh I posted a snippet of C# to show some of the better features it has over C++
[05:29]<+camerongray> This sums it up nicely: http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/42420931277/debugging-recursive-code
[05:30]<@BC_Programming> somebody made the mistake to try to say the only thing that identifies that it isn't C++ is the use of the "out" keyword
[05:30]<@BC_Programming> I schooled them on all the reasons why the code couldn't exist in C++ even with templates and macros and special functions or classes
[05:33]<+camerongray> I ALMOST FIXED IT!
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[08:23]<+camerongray> Look who's back...http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,138807.msg885331.html#msg885331
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[08:56]<+camerongray> Looks like lostcoast has a new friend!
[08:56]<+camerongray> [15:46:49] <guest_07> intel penitium
[08:56]<+camerongray> [15:46:54] <guest_07> lol
[08:56]<+camerongray> [15:46:55] <azander> 32bit
[08:56]<Transfusion> mibbit staff to top it off -_-
[08:56]<+camerongray> Oh wow
[08:57]<+camerongray> Then I ask what Pentium - P6100 - Ya know, that one from 2010
[09:00]<jamer> Ild rather core my core duo than a pentium
[09:01]<+camerongray> Pentium Dual Cores are fine really
[09:01]<+camerongray> Very similar to the core duo
[09:01]<+camerongray> Especially the new ones, they are great budget chips
[09:01]<+camerongray> I mean, sure if you take it literally, an "Intel Pentium" is 32bit, but if you ask the average consumer what chip they have they will look at the sticker that says "Pentium" and say that - Doesn't mean they are refferring to an original pentium!
[09:01]<jamer> True but still lol
[09:02]<Transfusion> sandy bridge pentiums are even better heh, the i3 is extremely beefy for a dual-core chip admittedly
[09:02]<+camerongray> Yeah
[09:02]<+camerongray> People way overestimate the power they need
[09:02]<+camerongray> You all know Calum and his high performance stuff...
[09:02]<Transfusion> trades blows with the Phenom II X4 /Core 2 Quad
[09:02]<Transfusion> Lol
[09:02]<+camerongray> Guess what chip is current desktop has
[09:03]<Transfusion> Hmmmm
[09:03]<Transfusion> 3930K.
[09:03]<Transfusion> random guess
[09:03]<Transfusion> xD
[09:03]<+camerongray> Sandy Bridge Celeron
[09:03]<Transfusion> Wow.
[09:03]<Transfusion> xD
[09:03]<+camerongray> Admittedly he's planning something new
[09:03]<Transfusion> anticlimatic heh
[09:03]<+camerongray> But people way overestimate the power they need
[09:04]<Transfusion> true, true
[09:04]<jamer> My core duo does what I need it to do
[09:04]<+camerongray> Like right now, I'm in the middle of a full day of work with loads of stuff running all over the place - Cores are averaging 20% each and using 3.4gb of my 8gb RAM
[09:05]<+camerongray> It's the PC stores - Oh, you want to watch video... Oh that'll need an i5
[09:05]<Transfusion> xD
[09:05]<jamer> Transfusion my laptop is maxed at 4 gb
[09:06]<Transfusion> even with a couple of linux VMs running in virtualbox! i am still surprised, actually
[09:06]<+camerongray> I just run LOADS of stuff at the same time
[09:06]<Transfusion> ;S 120 tabs in chrome
[09:06]<Transfusion> php.net documentation >_>
[09:07]<jamer> My dad has a fit over 3 tabs
[09:07]<Transfusion> jamer: Hmm is ram as cheap now as it was when Piledriver came out? AMD FX-83XX series
[09:08]<jamer> Idk ... I bought this laptop maxed out on ran
[09:08]<jamer> Ram*
[09:08]<Transfusion> ahh
[09:09]<jamer> Ironically it was a dell option for max ram
[09:09]<+camerongray> Look who it is again! <guest_79> right , just clarifying what was said .
[09:09]<Transfusion> meanwhile.. the new mac pro
[09:09]<Transfusion> a lot of things integrated!... and single fan
[09:10]<Transfusion> the punctuation gives it away xD
[09:10]<+camerongray> Anyone want to bring it up? I don't have the balls today :P
[09:11]<Transfusion> I would although I'm not exactly a regular and it would be pretty... arbitrary heh
[09:12]<+camerongray> lol
[09:12]<+camerongray> I might just start using his punctuation :P
[09:13]<Transfusion> hah
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[09:30]<PCdoc> see?? i said battlecam is LC ..
[09:31]<PCdoc> its a bot probably used by all mods around so that when it comes to complaining who kiced without any reason, they kick using battlecam whop actually is no one
[09:33]<+camerongray> yeah
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[12:40]<Tux2> Well, I got bluetooth working on my laptop :D
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[12:40]<@BC_Programming> cool
[12:40]<@BC_Programming> what do you use it for
[12:41]<+Tux2> Lol, I was trying out a gamepad controller on my phone
[12:41]<@BC_Programming> ahh... neat
[12:41]<+Tux2> Unfortunately it only emulates key presses, not an actual joystick
[12:41]<+Tux2> Even though it's through bluetooth
[12:41]<@BC_Programming> I have an application that converts joystick input to mouse input
[12:41]<@BC_Programming> it's for when my mouse batteries die heheh
[12:42]<+Tux2> lol
[12:42]<+Tux2> I need something that converts keyboard input into joystick input
[12:42]<+Tux2> For linux
[12:43]<+Tux2> I should just make my own joystick program for linux...
[12:43]<+Tux2> but of course, that means low level programming...
[12:44]<+Tux2> about the only game I can play on my computer with this pseudo controller is vvvvv
[12:45]<+Tux2> all the others expect either a controller, or a keyboard/mouse combo input
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[13:05]<@Calum> great, looks like this SSD is dead
[13:06]<@BC_Programming> hmm not sure whether to find this youtube comment offensive or funny
[13:06]<@BC_Programming> "Being an Atheist is much like having aÿ five year old drive a car. They will still be able to move the vehicle through the street, but they will crash real soon due to the lack of, you know, guidance."
[13:06]<@BC_Programming> I replied with "I agree. May Thor guide you as he does me"
[13:06]<+Tux2> lol
[13:14]<@BC_Programming> That was like a reddit thread where somebody saying they were Christian was replying to people and every single one of their comments was about 90% insults "you are all so F**** stupid, how many times were you dropped on your head" etc.
[13:15]<@BC_Programming> I was kind enough to point out that if he really did follow that faith he would have read about Jesus's Sermon on the mount which is often interpreted as containing the message to not do that
[13:19]<+Tux2> Yup
[13:19]<+Tux2> I'm a Christian, yet I don't go around deriding people for what they believe...
[13:20]<@BC_Programming> Indeed... I just thought it was funny in an ironic way
[13:21]<@BC_Programming> He has a messenger but apparently missed the message
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[13:40]<@BC_Programming> I think OpenTK has a memory leak or something when you stop the app
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> because Visual Studio using 7GB of virtual space doesn't seem at all right
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[14:18]<+PITB> OK that is the PC sety up with mIRC
[14:18]<+PITB> set*
[14:18]<@BC_Programming> cool
[14:23]<+PITB> Since when did CNET turn into a massive adware site? Minefield that place these days
[14:24]<@BC_Programming> I wasn't aware there was a time that it wasn't tbh
[14:25]<@Mulreay> A few years back it was fine for me but then again I didn't know as much so may have just been naive
[14:29]<@Mulreay> Going to livestream some Minecraft in a bit on Twitch if anyone has an interest to watch
[15:07]<+PITB> http://www.twitch.tv/mulreay OK going live
[15:18]<+PITB> Well that didn't work
[15:30]<@Mulreay> Cassini will be taking a picture of Earth from 22:27 - 22:42 BST so right now and for about 15mins exposure Make sure you look up and Wave at Saturn for the #DayEarthSmiled
[15:43]<+camerongray> Woop, new keyboard keys!
[15:43]<+camerongray> It's now all in English :P
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[16:00]<+Tux2> lol
[16:00]<+Tux2> Heh, I had one of my biggest clients double pay me....
[16:00]<+camerongray> Nice!
[16:00]<+camerongray> Or by accident/
[16:00]<+Tux2> lol, I think by accident
[16:00]<+camerongray> Ahh
[16:00]<+camerongray> I better get double paid for today - Was in work until 8pm!
[16:00]<+Tux2> So I had to open up a ticket and go "Hey, did you mean to do this?"
[16:01]<+Tux2> $245 twice isn't a small matter.
[16:01]<+camerongray> Clients are a pain!
[16:01]<+camerongray> Need a report at a stupid deadline
[16:01]<+Tux2> lol, server hosting is easier. :P
[16:01]<+camerongray> We say "That should take 3 days" they interpret it as "We can have it complete 3 days from now"
[16:02]<+Tux2> lol, yup
[16:02]<+camerongray> Then we have a top end data visualisation system (Tableau), costs $2000 a year, super easy for us to put on top of the data in a database - They still want it in bloody Excel!
[16:03]<+camerongray> Having a call with them on Monday to convince them otherwise
[16:03]<+camerongray> Phew! Thought this client made MLP, luckily not or I would now hate you :P
[16:04]<@BC_Programming> huh
[16:05]<+camerongray> Client is an entertainment company - Thought they made my little pony
[16:05]<+camerongray> Luckily not :P
[16:05]<@BC_Programming> Hasbro makes MLP afaik
[16:05]<+camerongray> Yeah
[16:05]<+camerongray> It would be fine if they understood both deadlines and that some data can't be retrieved by us!
[16:05]<+camerongray> "Oh, can you get it manually then" Yeah... :P
[16:06]<@BC_Programming> lol freelancer.com is always funny
[16:06]<@BC_Programming> "Need simple application to convert VB.NET to .jar file"
[16:06]<+camerongray> Monthly Pageviews, Visitors and Video Views from 60+ websites over 3 years - manually? :P
[16:06]<@BC_Programming> yeah "simple"
[16:06]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[16:07]<@BC_Programming> there was one I saw before "Site like freelancer.com"
[16:07]<@BC_Programming> very meta
[16:07]<+camerongray> tehehe
[16:07]<+camerongray> Yesterday in CH, someone convinced they could make their own OS to sell
[16:08]<+camerongray> Then in order to get us to help they showed screenshots of their prototype - Very impressive if it wasn't Amiga OS :P
[16:08]<@BC_Programming> lol
[16:08]<+camerongray> I could find a less well known GUI OS :P
[16:09]<+camerongray> Like this beast! http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/desktop/full/riscos37.png
[16:09]<+camerongray> It is so cool for its time!
[16:09]<+camerongray> So fast!
[16:09]<@BC_Programming> "Break captcha using VB.NET"
[16:09]<@BC_Programming> half of these projects are "hack this" or "decompile this" or "make aimbot for this"
[16:10]<+camerongray> Yeah
[16:10]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, other super cool thing with RiscOS
[16:10]<+camerongray> A company still has the rights to it and released it for the Raspberry PI
[16:10]<+camerongray> Which is funny since the ARM CPUs were designed for RiscOS!
[16:11]<+camerongray> So many memories when using it!
[16:11]<@BC_Programming> 'Improve your profile rating by taking "US English - Level 1" Exam'
[16:11]<+camerongray> lol!
[16:11]<@BC_Programming> Gee I wonder if this expects outsourcing to non-english countries
[16:11]<+camerongray> That must put you at a big advantage!
[16:12]<@BC_Programming> well except that I'm not willing to work for like 5$ and hour
[16:12]<+camerongray> Yeah, good point
[16:12]<+camerongray> I better get overtime for today :P
[16:12]<+camerongray> Even if I did waste hours having nosebleeds for some extremely strange reason
[16:13]<@BC_Programming> the nosebleeds were from the stress of your work
[16:13]<+camerongray> lol
[16:13]<@BC_Programming> and having to miss your cousin's wedding
[16:13]<+camerongray> Needed to get something sent out typing one handed while holding a tissue with the other!
[16:13]<+camerongray> While trying to act normal :P
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> heh say "I missed my cousin's wedding" then later say "but I missed my cousin's funeral"
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> and then they will go "wait... I thought it was his wedding"
[16:14]<+camerongray> bahaha!
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> "same thing"
[16:14]<+camerongray> Doggie wasn't in today, otherwise I'd have hugged him :P
[16:14]<+camerongray> Or crushed him in annoyance at clients :P
[16:14]<+camerongray> He's so friendly, tolerates everything :P
[16:15]<+camerongray> LIke a cat, shows no emotion when you pet him at all
[16:15]<+camerongray> Although at one point he fell asleep on me, so cute!
[16:32]<@BC_Programming> I just noticed that my CPU and Memory get a higher rating them my Graphics card through winSAT
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[18:24]<+camerongray> He clearly has used IRSSI!
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:16:51] <JasonH> 55/5\
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:16:53] <JasonH> 5
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:16:54] <JasonH> err.
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:17:03] <guitarman> that has been noted 6453456 times Lostcoast !!!!
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:17:07] <guitarman> Haw haw haw
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:17:21] <lostcoast> nuttin new eh
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:17:22] <db100547> JasonH STOP MUCKING AROUND , AS YOU WERE TOLD THE OTHER DAY
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:18:23] <JasonH> db100547: ...?
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:18:28] <JasonH> do you have a problem?
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:18:31] <JasonH> db100547: i made a typo.
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:18:46] <JasonH> please chill out
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:19:02] <lostcoast> JasonH: in return maybe just acting normal will help redeem you
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:19:03] <db100547> JasonH: then it was 4 typo's . not 1 or 2
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:19:14] <JasonH> db100547: do you know how irssi works?
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:19:17] <JasonH> i'm assuming you don't
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:19:24] <JasonH> you change windows by typing /<window number>
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:19:26] -*- guitarman imagines something is about to go down!
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:19:27] *** Mode #computerhope +h db100547 by ChanServ
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:19:47] <lostcoast> JasonH: best not get confrontational to hops
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:19:55] <lostcoast> just fit in
[18:24]<+camerongray> [01:20:01] <JasonH> lostcoast: i'm not being confrontational, i'm explaining why i did that :p
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:20:27] <lostcoast> ok listen do that in the mibbit tab ok?
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:20:32] <JasonH> in the what tab?
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:20:34] <lostcoast> works just the same
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:20:40] <JasonH> you mean a query?
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:20:56] <lostcoast> I mean commands in irc
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:21:05] <JasonH> er, i don't follow
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:21:09] <JasonH> i'm sorry
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:21:20] <lostcoast> you dont see a server tab called mibbit?
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:21:29] <JasonH> lostcoast: i'm using an IRC client
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:21:32] <JasonH> not mibbit's webir
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:21:32] <JasonH> c
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:21:36] *** Mode #computerhope -h db100547 by ChanServ
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:21:38] <lostcoast> yes it has them too
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:21:46] <JasonH> lostcoast: mine does not - it's CLI based
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:21:47] <camerongray> JasonH: I understand what you are saying, probably best to leave it though
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:21:52] <JasonH> camerongray: yah
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:21:56] <JasonH> camerongray: i like your name!
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:22:05] <camerongray> lol, imaiginative right? :P
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:22:20] <JasonH> camerongray: no, it's because i like the name cameron :P
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:22:24] <camerongray> Ahh, thanks
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[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:23:02] <camerongray> lostcoast: In IRSSI you have to type commands to switch tabs, no GUI - Easy to accidentally slip and send them to a channel instead of running them as intended
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:23:24] <camerongray> Not as bad as identifying with nickserv and sending your password to the chan, done that a few times!
[18:25]<+camerongray> [01:23:33] <lostcoast> I've used it
[18:26]<@BC_Programming> lol
[18:26]<@BC_Programming> No he hasn't, what a freaking liar
[18:27]<+camerongray> Yeah
[18:27]<+camerongray> Click the mibbit tab in IRSSI
[18:28]<@BC_Programming> "DUH you don't see a server tab named mibbit, btw I'm LostCoast and I'm an ignorant retard that has no idea what IRSSI is but damned if I'll admit it"
[18:28]<+camerongray> bahaha!
[18:28]<@BC_Programming> I like the "Best not to get confrontational with hops, just fit in"
[18:28]<+camerongray> Yeah
[18:28]<+camerongray> Forgot
[18:28]<@BC_Programming> Only way to fit in with them is to have a lobotomy
[18:28]<+camerongray> DB was at it again
[18:29]<+camerongray> [16:03:14] <guest_07> for gpu intesive things i mean
[18:29]<+camerongray> [16:03:17] <camerongray> guest_07: Can't really get them
[18:29]<+camerongray> [16:03:30] <guest_07> awww ok
[18:29]<+camerongray> [16:05:07] <guest_07> yeah ebay did nothing
[18:29]<+camerongray> [16:06:16] <camerongray> You can get them for some of the newer apple stuff since they have Thunderbolt ports, but no regular PC at the moment has an port that can run fast enough or is low level enough to run a graphics card
[18:29]<+camerongray> [16:06:51] <guest_79> guest_07: there are usb connected video systems available
[18:29]<+camerongray> [16:07:26] <IndianaJoe> not for serious use!
[18:29]<+camerongray> [16:07:56] <guest_07> hmmm
[18:29]<+camerongray> [16:08:10] <camerongray> The USB stuff is just for an additional display - I'm using one right now
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[18:29]<@BC_Programming> if you gave LostCoast an enema he could be buried in a matchbox
[18:29]<+camerongray> [16:08:16] <guest_79> right , just clarifying what was said .
[18:29]<+camerongray> DB's hostmask again
[18:29]<@BC_Programming> haha
[18:29]<@BC_Programming> man he is terrible at that isn't he
[18:30]<+camerongray> yep!
[18:30]<@BC_Programming> "our computers require it"
[18:30]<+camerongray> lol!
[18:30]<@BC_Programming> then I imagine him blindfolded and humming the bonanza theme
[18:31]<+camerongray> I mean, even a mainframe would probably be UNIX based nowadays
[18:31]<@BC_Programming> oh yeah SuperTweaker had his account undeleted apparently
[18:31]<+camerongray> Yep, saw that!
[18:31]<+camerongray> And how he completely failed helping!
[18:32]<+camerongray> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,138807.msg885331.html#msg885331
[18:34]<+camerongray> I love Calum! http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,138887.msg885369.html#msg885369
[18:36]<+camerongray> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,138887.msg885334.html#msg885334
[18:36]<+camerongray> Save money, buy last gen hardware for your new, top-end PC!
[18:40]<+camerongray> OMG!
[18:40]<+camerongray> Person is getting a green player when watching flash videos
[18:40]<+camerongray> [01:37:01] <lostcoast> if a fresh install of 7 and the correct drivers wont work then I would sell it and move up
[18:40]<+camerongray> [01:37:50] <guest_13> yeah.. I nor my parents have the money though
[18:40]<+camerongray> [01:38:06] <lostcoast> I doubt you can fix it
[18:40]<+camerongray> [01:38:15] <lostcoast> from what you have said
[18:40]<+camerongray> You can't get YouTube working? Buy a new machine!
[18:41]<@BC_Programming> oh yeah, that's sound advice... not
[18:41]<+camerongray> You need to lurk more and point them out, they would be too happy to ban me#
[18:41]<@BC_Programming> eh
[18:41]<@BC_Programming> when I lurk there I feel compelled to help the guests
[18:42]<@BC_Programming> then I get sidetracked... you know... doing what the channel is for
[18:42]<@BC_Programming> rather than being vitriolic
[18:42]<+camerongray> True, same here
[18:42]<+camerongray> I hate the "Buy a new machine" thing
[18:43]<@BC_Programming> I like how they "claim ownership" of guests
[18:43]<+camerongray> I've never needed to replace a machine due to a fault!
[18:43]<@BC_Programming> like you cannot help somebody that someone else is helping
[18:43]<+camerongray> Only ever replaced to upgrade
[18:43]<@BC_Programming> even if that person helping couldn't win a battle of wits with a sack of nails
[18:44]<+camerongray> yep!
[18:44]<+camerongray> http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m34ghdDFqj1ruzgqho1_500.gif
[18:44]<@BC_Programming> That third post you linked is awesome... with the build Calum is helping with
[18:45]<+camerongray> Yeah
[18:45]<+camerongray> But isn't Calum a troll?
[18:45]<@BC_Programming> is he? wait did that get said somewhere
[18:46]<+camerongray> Nah, like supertweaker said to you for disagreeing
[18:46]<+camerongray> He clearly knows more than Calum when it comes to high performance PCs!
[18:46]<@BC_Programming> or rather pointing out that what he said was subjective and declaring it's objective is fallacious
[18:47]<@BC_Programming> then of course he decided that the only reason people were agreeing with me HAD to be because I was some sort of lord on the forums that everybody was scared to offend
[18:47]<@BC_Programming> which come to think of it could be the case
[18:52]<+camerongray> You aren't goign to believe this!
[18:52]<+camerongray> Guess what LC just did to me
[18:52]<@BC_Programming> kicked you?
[18:52]<@BC_Programming> banned you?
[18:52]<+camerongray> opposite
[18:52]<+camerongray> [01:51:42] *** Mode #computerhope +h camerongray by ChanServ
[18:52]<@BC_Programming> dafuq
[18:52]<+camerongray> Now I need to turn into a brainless knobend
[18:53]<@BC_Programming> eh they are probably taking the piss
[18:53]<jamer> lostcoast said he was in a giving mood O.o
[18:53]<+camerongray> Hmm, time will tell
[18:55]<+camerongray> Aww, it's temp
[18:57]<jamer> 8:56 PM <lostcoast> before I give hop we need to agree on a number of things (i wonder what exactly)
[18:57]<+camerongray> [01:57:13] <lostcoast> main thing is not unbanning others bans
[18:58]<@BC_Programming> see what I would have done at that point
[18:58]<+camerongray> unbanned a ban?
[18:58]<@BC_Programming> lol
[18:58]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[18:58]<@BC_Programming> eg
[18:59]<@BC_Programming> <lostcoast> main thing is not unbanning others bans
[18:59]<@BC_Programming> BC_Programming sets mode -b on !*.*@blah.net
[18:59]<+camerongray> Yeah
[18:59]<+camerongray> Those can be a pain
[18:59]<+camerongray> I remember him threatening to ban BT
[18:59]<+camerongray> Ya know, half the UK
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[19:57]<@BC_Programming> Jetbrains hasn't been giving me free stuff in a timely fashion
[19:57]<@BC_Programming> I may need to boycott them
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[20:18]<+Tux2> wow, BC_Programming, take a look at this code: http://paste.yu8.me/?f6e3da8d829ed935#N5KyJqCbCWnsjjvHl6/JuQDr2hN95DNW8dpFZ7Nl59M=
[20:19]<+Tux2> It's code I found in a paid-for plugin
[20:19]<+Tux2> pre-paid for none-the-less
[20:19]<@BC_Programming> :O
[20:19]<@BC_Programming> backdoor?
[20:20]<@BC_Programming> or rather remote disabling
[20:20]<@BC_Programming> that <would> make some sense if it wasn't pre-paid to prevent being stiffed but if it's already paid that's just wrong
[20:20]<+Tux2> yeah
[20:22]<+Tux2> She paid the guy up front for the plugin
[20:22]<+Tux2> I found the code while looking at why it was crashing clients
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[20:23]<+Tux2> This was the bit of code crashing clients: http://paste.yu8.me/?9824142d3fcddeb4#yu3X5IqsQ+H/f6gRsTfITZZRRq/N8pJTPV2Mv/zrzDs=
[20:24]<+Tux2> I'm still surprised at all the "hacky" methods plugin devs use...
[20:24]<@BC_Programming> What is that supposed to do?
[20:24]<+Tux2> remove potion effects or something
[20:24]<@BC_Programming> lol
[20:24]<+Tux2> I removed it
[20:25]<+Tux2> sent the plugin back with those two things cut out and it's working perfectly now. :)
[20:25]<@BC_Programming> player.getActivePotionEffects().clear() seems like a better option for clearing potion effects heh
[20:25]<+Tux2> lol, not the actual effect, just the particles
[20:26]<@BC_Programming> oooh
[20:26]<+Tux2> but there's ways of setting up a potion to not show particle effects as well...
[20:26]<@BC_Programming> I thought you could only make them ambient effects
[20:26]<@BC_Programming> like reduced opacity particles or something
[20:26]<+Tux2> lol, no, you can not show a potion effect particles
[20:27]<+Tux2> It's in the code, so no need for the "hacky" method, except to guarantee repeat business when bukkit updates
[20:29]<@BC_Programming> NMS is becoming less necessary as Bukkit API matures
[20:29]<@BC_Programming> right now it's only really good for stuff that is newer if you want to be bleeding edge
[20:30]<@BC_Programming> well and a few other cases I suppose, particularly dealing with network packets
[20:31]<@BC_Programming> I switched Survivalchests to use a yml file for the randomization data... not sure it was actually that great of a plan, since the file was 110KB
[21:28]<+Tux2> lol
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