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[08:30]<+camerongray> Woo, day of deploying servers has turned into - How to remove a stuck drive caddy :P
[08:31]<@BC_Programming> lol
[08:33]<+camerongray> How long until we resort to tug-of-war with servers
[08:34]<@BC_Programming> hmm you know of any Java Decompilers
[08:34]<@BC_Programming> only one I found was JD-GUI
[08:36]<+camerongray> Hmm, nope
[08:38]<@BC_Programming> hmm oh well
[08:41]<+camerongray> And now we have the end of a screwdriver stuck too
[08:43]<@BC_Programming> sigh well I managed to decompile it, wonderful
[08:44]<@BC_Programming> it's a plugin that relies on GriefPrevention... it uses reflection and accesses a bunch of class internals
[08:44]<@BC_Programming> maybe I should rename fields lol
[08:45]<@jacky> you can use a Ram Hammer as a Stuck Screwdriver Removal Implement
[08:45]<@jacky> did you know that?
[08:45]<@BC_Programming> ScrewDriverHammerRammer
[08:46]<@jacky> ScrewDriverHammerUnRammer
[08:46]<@BC_Programming> (Sold separately)
[08:46]<@jacky> har
[08:52]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[08:52]<+camerongray> FREEDDOOMMM!
[08:53]<+camerongray> Trick is to put server on it's end - One person push it down into the floor, other person pull up on the drive
[08:53]<+camerongray> With a third person bending part of the server with a screwdriver
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[12:06]<@Mulreay> The BBC 'sherlock Holmes' is far better than I thought it would be.. just starting season 2 one and a half hour per episode.
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[12:36]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: you have our permission to say hello to the bot on purpose
[12:38]<+camerongray> lol!
[12:38]<@BC_Programming> I think I may have scared that "SuperTweaker" guy away
[12:38]<+camerongray> Datacenter had an A/C falure and the servers that run my VPS for my IRC shut down
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[12:41]<+camerongray> Hey Calum!
[12:41]<@Calum> hey cameron
[12:41]<+camerongray> Yay! Almost said hi to ChanbotVII but noticed before I sent!
[12:41]<@Calum> haha
[12:41]<@BC_Programming> darn
[12:41]<+camerongray> lol
[12:41]<@Mulreay> Hey Calum
[12:41]<@Calum> hey mulreay
[12:42]<+camerongray> This was my day! https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/v/1002284_711298958897247_608288694_n.jpg?oh=e472062d6ac04daa48e88e8ead0abf55&oe=51E682F4&__gda__=1374072881_1d7b004b8e80639d94be5f808cb006a6
[12:42]<+camerongray> So much fun, even with the "oopsie" :P
[12:42]<@Calum> uh oh, what was the oopsie?
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> I am jelly
[12:42]<+camerongray> Ever watched Some Mothers Do 'ave Em?
[12:43]<@Calum> I am too, but I will make camerongray jealous soon too...
[12:43]<@Calum> I have indeed
[12:43]<@Mulreay> Calum when you have time could you help me with an overclock on my new PC with a gigabyte mobo
[12:43]<+camerongray> You know the "Georges House" episode? Where he tried to stop the toilet flushing?
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> Did you see the episode where Jesus swallowed the puzzle piece and the man in the big yellow hat had to take him to the hospital?
[12:43]<+camerongray> lol
[12:44]<@Calum> Mulreay: sure thing, it's an AMD K series right? I just need to get in touch with one of the guys at OcUK because I haven't clocked one of those myself, so I'll get some settings from them if that's cool
[12:44]<+camerongray> Pretty similar to that - Went to put the drive in, wouldn't go, so I thought "I'll jam it"
[12:44]<@Calum> I've only seen a few episodes, can't recall specifics
[12:44]<+camerongray> And right enough, it got stuck
[12:44]<@BC_Programming> oh no you're contacting you overclocking thugs
[12:44]<+camerongray> So I had to take apart the whole machine to try to get the drive out
[12:44]<@Calum> hah
[12:44]<@Mulreay> No worries Calum
[12:44]<+camerongray> Then found the bit I needed to remove was riveted in
[12:44]<@Calum> What cooler do you have mulreay?
[12:45]<+camerongray> So then we tried to lever it out with a screwdriver which the handle broke off of, then it got stuck as well
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> then you hired a Tiger to try to remove it
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> then you had to hire a Elephant to stomp the tiger
[12:45]<@Calum> things escalated quickly
[12:45]<+camerongray> SO in the end we had the server on its back on the ground, me pushing as hard as I could to hold it down while one of the other guys tried to pull the drive up as hard as he could
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> not really, I imagine the Elephant broke the escalator
[12:46]<+camerongray> Finally came out :P
[12:46]<@Calum> smooth moves
[12:46]<@Calum> lol
[12:46]<+camerongray> And you can imagine what happens when you pull with all your weight on a drive that suddenly releases :P
[12:46]<+camerongray> SSD to the face!
[12:46]<@Calum> could've been worse, could've been a SCSI drive
[12:46]<+camerongray> Yeah!
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> could have gone worse, when it came out it could have gone flying out an open window and been crushed by a passing trailer truck
[12:47]<+camerongray> lol!
[12:47]<@Calum> true
[12:47]<+camerongray> Well, there was a dog lying under the window :P
[12:47]<@BC_Programming> ahh you have him trained to fetch things
[12:47]<+camerongray> But we fixed it all in the end - Not a scratch :P
[12:47]<@Calum> that's cool
[12:47]<+camerongray> And Calum - Recognise that DVD drive? :P
[12:48]<+camerongray> <patio_mode>The DVD in that drive is burned and that means you illegally torrented it so you should die</patio_mode>
[12:49]<+camerongray> Funny thing is - We just spent £1200 on the Windows licencing alone!
[12:49]<@Calum> oh nice hah, I see it now
[12:49]<+camerongray> Couldn't find a copy of 2008r2 anywhere so had to buy two licences for 2012 Essentials
[12:49]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: funny thing on CH patio said something about technet after me and Calum were talking how it might have been revoked due to piracy
[12:49]<+camerongray> lol
[12:49]<@BC_Programming> and then Patio basically says "well it wasn't me, I only gave my copies to a few people"
[12:49]<+camerongray> *facedesk*
[12:50]<+camerongray> Let me guess, lostcoast
[12:50]<+camerongray> He told me to install mine on these servers!
[12:50]<@BC_Programming> had to point out where in the technet subscription agreement where it says you aren't supposed to give it to anybody
[12:50]<+camerongray> I mean, I love where I work and it's a small company, but I'm not going to give them software!
[12:50]<+camerongray> I bought them some more coke, that's enough :P
[12:50]<@BC_Programming> yeah they keep stealing your burritos, that's enough
[12:51]<+camerongray> lol
[12:51]<@BC_Programming> lol
[12:51]<+camerongray> Oh yeah Calum - Are those similar to the 11 servers you are getting?
[12:52]<+camerongray> Dell CS24-SC
[12:53]<@Calum> sorry, Cassie decided it would be a great idea to remove the filter from the washing machine and it poured about a liter of water all over the floor, just mopped that up
[12:53]<+camerongray> lol!
[12:53]<@Calum> BC_Programming: yeah I saw that, I facedesked when I read it
[12:53]<@Calum> camerongray: these are them - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121130793548?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
[12:53]<@Calum> Bought about 10 minutes ago :)
[12:54]<+camerongray> Ahh, nice!
[12:54]<@Calum> Those dells are similar, same platform just a little newer, so they support the 54xx series whereas mine are 53xx
[12:54]<+camerongray> Ahh - We are trying to find rails for them :P
[12:56]<@Calum> gonna rack them up like this
[12:56]<@Calum> http://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack
[12:57]<+camerongray> nice!
[12:57]<+camerongray> What are you going to use them for?
[12:57]<@Calum> BOINC
[12:57]<@Calum> and some F@H
[12:58]<@Calum> but mainly BOINC
[12:58]<@Calum> I picked up two quad cores for £6 today, and I have like 6 sticks of DDR2 FBDIMMs I got cheap off someone who didn't know what they were
[12:58]<@Calum> then I plan to pick up quads and more RAM for the rest as it becomes available
[12:59]<@Calum> need some SSDs as well ideally but I don't want to get too carried away
[12:59]<@Calum> getting a 24 port switch for them, which handily is actually a 28 port one, 24 100mb ports, 2 gigabit, and 2 stacking ports
[13:00]<+camerongray> Ahh, nice! How much will power cost though?
[13:00]<@Calum> so I can use a gigabit for one of the servers that will be doing a lot of data transfer and gigabit to the homeplug, then the rest can go on 100mb
[13:00]<@Calum> Only going to run them overnight because it's fairly cheap at night on our tariff
[13:00]<+camerongray> Ahh!
[13:00]<+camerongray> Here we go, this is patio's logic behind technet...
[13:00]<+camerongray> [16:12:08] <camerongray> Wow, how card can it actually be to find a copy of Windows Web Server 2008 r2!
[13:00]<+camerongray> [16:12:12] <camerongray> hey db100547
[13:00]<+camerongray> [16:12:26] <camerongray> Search Amazon and there is nothing apart from OEM versions!
[13:00]<+camerongray> [16:13:09] <patio> Use whats left of your TechNet account.
[13:00]<+camerongray> [16:13:26] <db100547> camerongray: afternoon
[13:00]<@Calum> like 6 or 7p per kwh or something compared to about 16 in the day
[13:00]<+camerongray> [16:13:27] <camerongray> Nah, can't use it since it's for a machine at work :(
[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:13:45] <guest_42> is UK_man came here ?
[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:14:04] <patio> Then get permission...i was under the impression it was your account.
[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:14:06] <guest_42> didn't see him for long time
[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:14:12] <camerongray> It's as though they have been completely wiped out! I know 2012 is out now, but 2008 r2 can't be that rare!
[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:14:26] <camerongray> patio: It is my account, and the licence is for a server we are getting at work
[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:14:57] <patio> Ok...i guess.
[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:15:38] <patio> TechNet software doesn't get tied to a PC until it's installed...read the fine print
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[13:01]<+camerongray> Then...
[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:16:05] <camerongray> True, just not sure about giving my licences away :P
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[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:16:18] <camerongray> Driving me mad! We already have one licence and we want to keep both new ones the same, hence why we don't get 2012
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[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:19:21] <patio> I can't talk sense into many people here...much less the people you work for.
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[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:21:49] <camerongray> lol, not really got anything to talk into them :P
[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:23:38] <camerongray> Getting the new servers was easy - "The reason it's running slow is the software wants 8 cores and 32gb RAM and the server it's on has 2 single core CPUs and 4gb RAM"
[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:23:52] <camerongray> Both cores at 100% constantly :P
[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:24:02] <camerongray> Poor thing is freaking out!
[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:26:21] <patio> All your dilemnas are self-induced on your end...the solutions are kinda obvious.
[13:01]<+camerongray> [16:28:37] <camerongray> And what's that?
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[13:02]<+camerongray> [16:29:59] <patio> Put the software on a proper server...talk them into resolving the WebServer 2008 by actually buying it...and then you still have your liscense
[13:02]<+camerongray> [16:33:50] <camerongray> huh, the whole problem is we are trying to buy it and are struggling to find it - And it is going on "proper" servers
[13:02]<+camerongray> [16:40:01] <patio> https://www.google.com/search?num=20&newwindow=1&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=ogZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=buy+web+server+2008&spell=1&sa=X&ei=Kt3aUePeBaPEyQHMxoGADA&ved=0CCoQBSgA&biw=1024&bih=632
[13:02]<+camerongray> [16:40:03] <Hopebot> TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/mbut9qh
[13:02]<+camerongray> [16:40:18] <patio> Amazon i believe will ship to the UK...
[13:02]<+camerongray> [16:41:39] <patio> Also if you go to the MS link in that page...install the trial on however many servers you can then purchase it directly from MS at the end of the Trial.
[13:02]<+camerongray> [16:42:34] <camerongray> The issue is we need 2008 r2, not 2012 which is easy to get
[13:02]<+camerongray> [16:43:09] <patio> The link is for that
[13:02]<+camerongray> [16:43:35] <patio> Otherwise go straight to the MS site...it's still listed there.
[13:02]<+camerongray> [16:43:36] <camerongray> The link is a google search for "buy web server 2008" - I've kinda been doing that all afternoon!
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[13:02]<+camerongray> [16:44:26] <patio> http://shopper.cnet.com/windows/microsoft-windows-web-server/4014-3672_9-33780147.html
[13:02]<+camerongray> [16:45:24] <camerongray> Hmm thanks, would rather get it from the UK if possible, will keep looking
[13:02]<+camerongray> I like the bit "Put the software on a proper server...talk them into resolving the WebServer 2008 by actually buying it...and then you still have your liscense"
[13:02]<@Calum> http://blog.synthesis.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/thisiswhywecanthave.jpg
[13:02]<+camerongray> lol!
[13:03]<+camerongray> Lets look at that - "Put the software on a proper server" - Naw, I was trying to get it so I could install it on my kettle
[13:03]<@BC_Programming> oh wow
[13:03]<+camerongray> "By actually buying it" - That's what I'm trying to do!
[13:03]<+camerongray> Then the google search for "Buy web server 2008" - Kinda been trying much better formed queries all day :P
[13:04]<@Calum> Our supplier still carries 2008 R2
[13:05]<+camerongray> Ahh, but couldn't find the Web edition
[13:05]<+camerongray> At least retail
[13:05]<@Calum> Windows Web Server?
[13:05]<+camerongray> Yeah
[13:05]<@Calum> they only have that and Enterprise
[13:05]<@Calum> so you may be in luck
[13:05]<+camerongray> Ahh, what's their name?
[13:05]<@Calum> Insigh
[13:05]<@Calum> Insight
[13:05]<@Calum> http://uk.insight.com/en-gb/productinfo/misc/0000069851-00000001
[13:06]<+camerongray> Oh nice!
[13:06]<@Calum> it does say "ordered on request" but they tend to only list things they can actually get, rather than things they can't
[13:06]<@Calum> £427.49 inc VAT fyi
[13:06]<+camerongray> Ahh cool
[13:07]<+camerongray> I'll bring it up tomorrow - Might not have bought 2012 yet
[13:07]<+camerongray> Might go for 2012 anyway though - Newer and all that :P
[13:07]<@Calum> yeah true, just thought I'd mention it in case it helps :)
[13:07]<+camerongray> yeah, really does
[13:07]<+camerongray> I'll bring it up tomorrow
[13:07]<@Calum> we're still waiting for our new storage server with 2012, ordered it Wednesday with next day delivery, still not here
[13:07]<@Calum> yet stuff we ordered Friday turned up today
[13:08]<@Calum> clearly the port duplicator thingymabobs were more important than a 3 grand server
[13:08]<+camerongray> hehhe
[13:15]<@Calum> Looks like Cassie's getting a new laptop
[13:48]<@BC_Programming> oh SuperTweaker
[13:48]<@Calum> hah he's a one huh?
[13:48]<@BC_Programming> I love how when I attack a persons argument
[13:48]<@Calum> I read your posts with joy earlier
[13:48]<@BC_Programming> they accuse me of "having a big ego"
[13:48]<@BC_Programming> I'm LOOKING for reasons that windows 8 is bad. None of this emotional appeal crap, I really want to hear it
[13:50]<@Calum> I get the impression that logic and forming coherent arguments are not his strong points
[13:50]<@BC_Programming> lol I love his post in another thread
[13:51]<@BC_Programming> apparently he came to CH to try to get supporters to sign his petition that windows 8 is a crime
[13:51]<@BC_Programming> yes
[13:51]<@BC_Programming> a CRIME
[13:51]<@Calum> haha
[13:51]<@BC_Programming> I mean come on... if you are going to say it's a crime, surely there should be something concrete behind it other than "I don't like it"
[13:52]<@Calum> indeed
[13:52]<@BC_Programming> "I don't like W8 and am part of a IT boycott group that comes down on M$ for releasing this new system that destroyed the continuity and familiarity of W8 to people over 40 years old. "
[14:09]<+camerongray> Yeah, saw that, thought of lots of words for him
[14:10]<@BC_Programming> I'm curious what sort of information there is to back-up a claim that the "Start Screen" is criminal
[14:10]<@BC_Programming> I mean really... Criminal? you're going to go down THAT road?
[14:11]<@BC_Programming> I do like how I completely DESTROYED their post though, all because of that one little statement disguised as objective truth, and then trying to shirk intellectual responsibility by going all "oh, let's agree to disagree"
[14:19]<@Calum> heh yeah
[14:20]<@BC_Programming> I was in debating mode so I g uess they just said the wrong thing in the wrong place at the wrong time to the wrong person
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[16:16]<@Mulreay> Nothing worse than saying the wromg thing at the wrong time... I've learnt my lesson..
[16:41]<@Mulreay> I wan't to play Ice Hockey
[16:42]<@Mulreay> I like a good scrap
[17:37]<@Mulreay> I find it strange that your sport allows/wants fights
[17:37]<@Mulreay> Watching lots of games
[17:39]<@Mulreay> Ice Hockey is kinda cool
[17:41]<@Mulreay> I think I could get knocked out by one of these guys
[17:42]<@Mulreay> So nasty
[17:45]<@Mulreay> mmm I'm no Doug Glatt but I could defo knock a tooth out
[18:45]<@BC_Programming> haha boy I really have this SuperTweaker guy struggling
[18:46]<@BC_Programming> got him down to simply personal attacks against me
[18:46]<@BC_Programming> I think what killed him was "You are of course entitled to your own opinion. However, you are not entitled to your own set of facts"
[20:26]<@Mulreay> Heh got punched in the face by a teenager when he started on me.. he wanted to test me by shouting in my face.. when I told him to go away.. he did this http://imageshack.us/a/img35/738/qxdu.jpg I then walked away... you have no idea how much that took me to do.
[20:31]<@Mulreay> But night night friends x x x
[20:31]<@Mulreay> It is 3:31am
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[20:53]<@Mulreay> craig are you around?
[20:54]<+Craig> Whazzup
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