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Session Start: Fri Jun 28 03:05:08 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [03:05] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[03:05] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[03:21]<@BC_Programming> hmm Perhaps I will cultivate a beard
[03:22]<@BC_Programming> I say that but every time I end up getting rid of it because it's itchy
[03:35]<+camerongray> lol
[03:36]<+camerongray> You could become the technical guy at the uni computer society with one!
[03:37]<+camerongray> The election came down to "I have a bigger beard than the other guy"
[03:51]<PCdoc> yeah .. its itchy
[03:51]<PCdoc> i have grown french beard
[03:51]<PCdoc> but after some time when it gets more itchy and irritating i shave it off
[06:03]<@BC_Programming> Starmade is interesting
[06:10]<@Mulreay> Indeed
[06:11]<@BC_Programming> kinda buggy and definitely unfinished but very promising
[06:11]<@Mulreay> It's in Alpha
[06:11]<@BC_Programming> yes thus the "unfinished" part
[06:12]<@Mulreay> Rare to find a game in Alpha that is unfinished and not buggy
[06:12]<@Mulreay> not unfunished*
[06:12]<@BC_Programming> I do wish there was a way to go faster, not sure if I'm doing it wrong but can't seem to go faster than 49
[06:12]<@Mulreay> More engine thingies?
[06:12]<@BC_Programming> yeah I put craploads in a line thinking they worked like the lasers
[06:13]<@BC_Programming> seems to top out at 49
[06:13]<@Mulreay> I think it has to be one next to another and not inline
[06:13]<@BC_Programming> well I made a ship pretty much out of thrusters and it didn't go faster. It was a lot more manueverable though so there was that
[06:14]<@BC_Programming> haven't been able to kill any pirates yet sadly.... they made swiss cheese of my ship though
[06:15]<@BC_Programming> I had one follow me onto a planet, that was interesting
[07:25]<+Craig_remote> Host your own server, and set the Server properties so that your top speed is greater than 50. :)
[07:26]<+Craig_remote> My server allows for up to 150Km/h
[07:27]<+camerongray> Hey Craig_remote
[07:27]<+Craig_remote> ...
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[07:27]<+Craig> Hey camerongray
[08:11]<@Mulreay> Oh Skyrim how I love you so much but how I hate your glitchy as hell PS3 port on large save files.
[08:12]<@BC_Programming> large or old... or both?
[08:13]<@Mulreay> both, 15mb save files after nearly 400 hours
[08:14]<@BC_Programming> ic
[08:14]<@BC_Programming> in starmade a while ago, I landed on a planet, and was like "man, if only these planets had a sky effect from atmosphere"
[08:14]<@BC_Programming> then the sun started to rise
[08:15]<@BC_Programming> and I was like :O awesome
[08:16]<@Mulreay> heh
[08:16]<@BC_Programming> it was like the game was answering my query
[08:17]<@BC_Programming> hadn't actually landed on a planet in the daytime before I suppose
[08:19]<@BC_Programming> it may be time to build a vastly oversized ship of some sort
[08:20]<@Mulreay> Careful of missiles if you're playing with friends fyi
[08:23]<@BC_Programming> the shop I was at didn't have missiles shooter thingies
[08:23]<@BC_Programming> only the control computer
[08:23]<@BC_Programming> I may have to get the manager
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[08:26]<@Mulreay> The missiles generally go after the nearest thing inc your friends ships which is not the best
[08:30]<+camerongray> Hey Mulreay
[08:36]<@Mulreay> hey camerongray
[08:37]<+camerongray> Piwik analytics is so cool!
[08:43]<@Mulreay> heh http://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/how-to-write-a-complaint-letter
[08:55]<+camerongray> Too many computers at my desk again, losing track of what keyboard/mouse controls what screen
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[10:06]<@Mulreay> Hopefully a couple of you received some add money today
[10:07]<@Mulreay> ad*
[10:27]<@BC_Programming> My face really wants to grow mutton chops
[10:28]<@BC_Programming> and this recruiter I've been in an E-mail convo for the last few days is really confusing
[10:30]<@BC_Programming> And people keep trying to mavenize GriefPrevention, that's two pull requests so far
[10:30]<@BC_Programming> I was tempted to comment "wow, thanks for contributing to this project by forcing all future contributors to use your personal favourite build system"
[10:33]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: BTW did you see the 'debate with a moron' session me and cam had with guitar_man a few days ago? good times
[10:47]<@Mulreay> I did yes
[10:48]<@BC_Programming> man that guy is a laugh
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[12:02]<@Mulreay> "While you sleep we're probably shaving of your pubes and gluing them to your head" xD Red dwarf quotes
[12:02]<@BC_Programming> heh
[12:05]<jamer> Lol
[12:06]<@Mulreay> KRYTEN: Sir, you're a smeeeee... RIMMER: A smee. KRYTEN: A smeee heeee... RIMMER: A smee hee. KRYTEN: A complete and total one.
[12:07]<@Mulreay> Given that God is infinite, and given that the Universe is infinite... would you like a toasted tea cake?
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[12:22]<@Mulreay> THREE Listers!! Splendid!!! Perhaps Lister here would like to go over to the fridge and open a bottle of wine for Lister and Lister!!!
[12:50]<@BC_Programming> I love when 12 year olds try to correct me about programming
[12:52]<@BC_Programming> I fix'em good I do
[12:52]<+camerongray> lol! Link?
[12:52]<+camerongray> Oh and hey Calum!
[12:52]<@BC_Programming> posts were deleted
[12:53]<+camerongray> YAY, I did it!
[12:53]<+camerongray> Ahh
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> you did what
[12:54]<@Calum> hey cameron
[12:54]<+camerongray> Didn't say hi to ChanbotVII
[12:54]<@BC_Programming> oh ic
[12:55]<@BC_Programming> ah ha! I may have thought of a reasonably useful but also simple application to make for Windows 8
[12:55]<@BC_Programming> a tile slideshow
[12:56]<@BC_Programming> 'reasonably useful' being mostly for me to create a crapload on my start screen and have them all cycle through my pony wallpapers, while the background itself is some other pony wallpaper
[12:56]<@BC_Programming> Pony up my start screen for no reason
[12:58]<@Mulreay> Wow this takes me back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR8tKaDH2PY
[13:02]<@BC_Programming> there updated vanilla server to Minecraft 1.6.1
[13:02]<@BC_Programming> because apparently they can issue a point release to a version that actually hasn't been released yet
[13:08]<@Calum> omg I just had a near death experience...nothing compares to the horrifying feeling when you go to sit on a chair and it's not there any more
[13:10]<@BC_Programming> the ghost chair
[13:10]<@Calum> exactly
[13:11]<@Calum> you know what this is actually Cassie's fault
[13:11]<@Calum> the rug was perfectly placed so that it kept my chair from rolling backwards
[13:11]<@Calum> because our floor isn't flat
[13:11]<@Calum> so she moved the rug yesterday, and I told her this would happen
[13:11]<@Calum> it's not even like I have life insurance she's trying to get or something....
[13:17]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[13:18]<+camerongray> My chair has a tendacy to swivel on its own - So you stand up, then sit down to find it's turned around and either fall against the back of it, or site at right angles to the back and fall off backwards
[13:18]<@Calum> yeah mine does that too, as well as rolling backwards
[13:18]<@Calum> it also drops down on its own, really slowly, but only when you're intensely concentrating on something
[13:18]<@Calum> it hasn't done that for a while actually
[13:19]<+camerongray> lol
[13:19]<@Calum> oh man...you know I'm really tempted to hand Geek-9pm some warnings, he's really irritating
[13:20]<+camerongray> Yep, he is!
[13:20]<+camerongray> Did I tell you about DB's description of a buckling spring keyboard>
[13:20]<@Calum> lol, he had a warning for "Posts are starting to make less and less sense. "
[13:20]<@Calum> Starting???
[13:20]<+camerongray> lol!
[13:20]<@Calum> hmm, no, don't think you did
[13:21]<+camerongray> Are you a mod then?
[13:21]<@Calum> oh, yeah, I am indeed!
[13:21]<+camerongray> Nice!
[13:22]<@BC_Programming> congrats I suppose, though technically you were a mod before
[13:22]<@Calum> got made one 2 days ago, so I've been cleaning up spam and eagerly reading through the moderator board to see if there's anything interesting
[13:22]<+camerongray> Sweet!
[13:22]<@Calum> yeah it's a bit weird being back in the position after a few years
[13:22]<+camerongray> Yeah, the keyboard thing was fun - Was chatting to a few others about them after I had got my model m and unicomp
[13:23]<+camerongray> happened to mention how heavy they are
[13:23]<+camerongray> [22:44:09] <db100547> camerongray: reason the weigh a 'ton' is key switchs are mini transformers . and it is steel cased .
[13:23]<@BC_Programming> the nonsense with guitar_man here was my favourite
[13:24]<@BC_Programming> though calling a buckling spring a transformer is definitely stretching a bit
[13:24]<@BC_Programming> I mean by that logic a spring matress is loaded with transformers
[13:24]<+camerongray> Wouldn't he even guess that if somone has several mechanical keyboards, two of which are buckling spring, that they would know how they worked!
[13:24]<@Calum> I'm struggling to find words to explain how moronic that is
[13:25]<@BC_Programming> Well when you find them, I'm sure battlecam can pass them on to CH since he's idling here
[13:25]<+camerongray> I mean, he could have thought of a capacitive buckling spring like the Model F, but he'd still be wrong!
[13:25]<@Calum> haha
[13:25]<+camerongray> lol
[13:26]<+camerongray> Like, how can you even make a transformer act as a switch?
[13:26]<+camerongray> And wouldn't the keybord then hum :P
[13:26]<@BC_Programming> the same way , that you constantly would type , in a stupid way , like this .
[13:26]<@Calum> what, yours doesn't? Must be broken
[13:26]<+camerongray> hehehe
[13:26]<+camerongray> Even more than that, it's called "Buckling Spring" not "Button transformer"
[13:27]<@Calum> haha
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> oh wait , i'm not BC , he's my boss , I'm just using his PC .
[13:27]<+camerongray> hehehe
[13:27]<+camerongray> Also sometimes ,,, does THis...
[13:28]<@BC_Programming> Ellipsis overload!
[13:29]<+camerongray> Best ever description of how a buckling spring feels! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNCsP9N2eCw
[13:29]<+camerongray> 1:20 in
[13:29]<+camerongray> The accent just makes it even better!
[13:29]<@Calum> buttony
[13:29]<@Calum> excellent
[13:29]<+camerongray> yeah
[13:29]<@Calum> I will remember that
[13:29]<+camerongray> Saw it at work, couldn't stop sniggering
[13:30]<@Calum> it's their complete amazement that makes it for me
[13:30]<+camerongray> lol
[13:30]<@Calum> "oh my GOD! they're so BUTTONY!"
[13:30]<+camerongray> I wish I could have mine in the office!
[13:30]<@Calum> feel them!
[13:30]<@Calum> they're buttony!
[13:30]<+camerongray> yeah
[13:30]<@BC_Programming> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,138436.0
[13:31]<@Calum> that post gave me a headache when I saw it
[13:31]<@BC_Programming> I like how this person explains their complete lack of punctuation by saying they quit school in grade 6
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[13:31]<+camerongray> lol!
[13:31]<@BC_Programming> pretty sure punctuation is covered a lot earlier than grade 6
[13:32]<+camerongray> I can't use the keyboard at work - It's going to give me RSI!
[13:32]<@Calum> oh Cameron ave you seen OcUK are stocking Ducky keyboards now?
[13:32]<+camerongray> Oh, nice!
[13:32]<@BC_Programming> I'm tempted to reply to that topic and purposely omit all punctuation
[13:32]<@Calum> the Ducky wrist rest looks awesome, leather and stuff
[13:33]<@Calum> that's the technical term, stuff
[13:33]<+camerongray> Horrific dell thing, almost like a laptop but with a desktop mechanism (i.e. no stabilisers) - Unless you hit the key dead center, it buckles
[13:33]<@Calum> BC_Programming: do it!
[13:33]<+camerongray> I can even get keys stuck on it
[13:33]<@Calum> camerongray: ah I know the ones you mean. I quite like the older Dell keyboards, not sure if they still do them, the ones that are literally no bigger than the keys, very compact
[13:33]<@Calum> we had those at college, quite nice to type on for a dome board
[13:34]<+camerongray> Yeah, the ones with a huge spacebar?
[13:34]<@Calum> ah yeah I forgot about that hah, the spacebar was huge
[13:34]<+camerongray> Yeah, I like them
[13:34]<+camerongray> BUt this one is hell, But me being me I can't bring myself to ask for another :P
[13:34]<@Calum> heh
[13:34]<+camerongray> I could take one of my mechanical ones in, but they would hate me :P
[13:35]<@Calum> yeah they would
[13:35]<+camerongray> I'd love to see the MD using a mechanical one, him on a rubber dome sounds like me on a mechannical!
[13:35]<+camerongray> SO fast!
[13:35]<@Calum> haha
[13:35]<@Calum> our MD today spent all day complaining about phones
[13:36]<@Calum> we gave him a nice new Lumia, because we're phasing out blackberries because they're awful
[13:36]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[13:36]<@Calum> and it "takes too many presses to call someone"....2 presses....same as a Blackberry
[13:36]<+camerongray> hehehe
[13:36]<@BC_Programming> oh man if the guy catches on that I'm mocking him he will be so pissed
[13:36]<@Calum> "it's really complicated" "I want a blackberry" "I want it now" he's basically like a small child
[13:36]<+camerongray> lol - We now need to reboot our VoIP server weekly because of a memory leak in the logitech squeezebox server that also runs on it!
[13:37]<+camerongray> We also need to set up restrictions as to who in the office can pick the music!
[13:37]<@Calum> hah
[13:37]<+camerongray> This happened today: http://t.co/nF3oS2ww9F
[13:38]<@Calum> nice
[13:38]<+camerongray> That was after ABBA :P
[13:38]<+camerongray> Brilliant thing though, we can log into the server and control the music
[13:39]<@Calum> that's cool
[13:39]<+camerongray> Has MP3s stored on the server but can also do internet radio and spotify
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> heh my last paragraph will be written properly heheh
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> as a sort of "see how easy it is" thing
[13:41]<+camerongray> I really want to try Cherry MX Greens, shame you can't get them anywhere!
[13:42]<@BC_Programming> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,138436.new.html#new
[13:42]<@Calum> yeah
[13:42]<@BC_Programming> think they'll catch on that I was mocking them?
[13:43]<@Calum> I doubt it lol
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> oops accidentally had a full stop in my second to last paragraph
[13:43]<+camerongray> nice!
[13:43]<+camerongray> But it takes so much time to hit the punctuation keys!
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[13:44]<Calum2> *le sigh*
[13:45]<@BC_Programming> OMG there are two of you
[13:45]<+camerongray> lol
[13:45]<+pottsi> oops accidentally had a full stop in my second to last paragraph <<<<< put any grammer in they will know you're mocking them
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[13:45]<+camerongray> lol, hey pottsi
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[13:45]<@BC_Programming> yeah I wrote my last paragraph using proper punctuation/capitalization
[13:46]<@BC_Programming> just to make it clear heheh
[13:46]<@Calum> so apparently unplugging the Ethernet cable, while already connected via wifi, is enough to disconnect me....
[13:46]<+pottsi> hey camerongray
[13:46]<+camerongray> lol
[13:47]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[13:47]<@BC_Programming> "Thanks Michael, I'll have our programmers review some of your code and we will follow up next week when we are ready to start doing interviews."
[13:48]<+camerongray> Nice!
[13:48]<@BC_Programming> or not
[13:48]<@BC_Programming> depends what they look at...
[13:50]<+camerongray> What did you send them>
[13:51]<@BC_Programming> I didn't send them anything, gave them a link to my site and github and whatnot
[13:51]<+camerongray> Ahh cool
[14:05]<@Calum> camerongray: don't suppose you have an IDE laptop hard drive going spare?
[14:05]<+camerongray> 5gb :P
[14:05]<@BC_Programming> hmm I sure hope they don't read my github comments
[14:05]<@BC_Programming> especially this one I'm posting now
[14:05]<@Calum> ah, I need it for an XP machine, because I think this one is dying
[14:05]<+camerongray> Ahh
[14:05]<+camerongray> The only other one I have has bad sectors
[14:06]<@BC_Programming> I'm SICK AND TIRED of people trying to issue pull requests and force maven support into GriefPrevention
[14:06]<@Calum> I need to scan this one and see, I suspect it may have a few bad sectors too...it's painfully slow, I know that
[14:06]<+camerongray> Yeah, that's what this one was
[14:07]<@Calum> I put it to one side because it has a few issues anyway but a work colleague wanted a cheap laptop so I sold her it lol
[14:07]<+camerongray> It worked fine when running, but took over 30 mins to boot
[14:07]<@Calum> now I need to make it work acceptably
[14:07]<@Calum> I'll scan this one when it's finished doing Windows updates
[14:07]<+camerongray> They had bought the laptop around 2004 (Pentium 4) but had never really used it until last year
[14:07]<@Calum> heh, this one's about the same age
[14:08]<+camerongray> Got me to update it and stuff, but the drive was bad
[14:08]<@Calum> I guess the drives are like 8-9 years old so it's not surprising
[14:08]<+camerongray> They had only ever used it a couple of times - Didn't have broadband until last year
[14:09]<+camerongray> Couple in their late 30s, not like they are old :P
[14:09]<@Calum> heh
[14:10]<@Calum> I'm sorting out two laptops for this person, they brought me theirs the other day and I think the board is dead, I just had a quick go at it - checked the RAM, reseated stuff, reset BIOS, the usual
[14:10]<@Calum> it's a DV6000 so probably the ball solder thing
[14:10]<@Calum> where it needs a reflow
[14:11]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah, they are dead common
[14:11]<@Calum> told them it'd be about £80-100 if it was just that, and suggested they buy a refurb instead
[14:11]<@Calum> so I sourced them a HP 6910p for £75
[14:11]<+camerongray> See them all the time when looking for ones to refurb, tend to avoid them
[14:11]<@Calum> plus a charger for £10, and then this ancient beast for her daughter to do MS word on etc
[14:11]<@Calum> so a pretty good deal to be fair
[14:11]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:11]<+camerongray> What's the older one?
[14:12]<@Calum> yeah I wouldn't touch one of those with a bargepole, unless you have the equipment it's not worth bothering with, I can get them done for like £40 but they're never going to last too long
[14:12]<@Calum> it's an omnibook XE4500
[14:12]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[14:13]<@Calum> just needed a battery because the DC jack is a bit loose, and the battery is dead, so if it wiggles it shuts off right away
[14:13]<+camerongray> Ahh
[14:13]<@Calum> picked up a cheap battery so it will run until the jack wiggles back into place
[14:13]<+camerongray> Cool
[14:13]<@Calum> oh wow it has 256mb of RAM, I thought it has at least 512mb
[14:13]<@Calum> maybe it's not the HDD then lol
[14:14]<+camerongray> Was wondering, what's your opinion on the cheapo eBay batteries? I'm always wary but they are so much cheaper for refurbing
[14:14]<@Calum> I tend to try and avoid them, but some aren't so bad
[14:14]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[14:14]<+camerongray> Bought a couple of used genuine ones for around the same price
[14:14]<@Calum> I try to stick to original genuine ones if they're around £30-40
[14:14]<+camerongray> But they can be a bit tired
[14:15]<@Calum> if they're ridiculously expensive I will sometimes get a non genuine one, this HP is having a cheapo one but it does have a 12 month warranty
[14:15]<@Calum> just trying to remember, we use a different company for batteries at work if our supplier can't get genuine HPs, can't remember the name
[14:16]<+camerongray> Ahh cool
[14:16]<+camerongray> I always look for CE marks.etc but they can be fake
[14:16]<@Calum> yeah I never buy batteries from abroad regardless
[14:16]<+camerongray> Bought a lot of cheaper chargers but there's one supplier that I only get them from and they are all decent quality
[14:16]<@Calum> ah that's one thing I never do, I only buy genuine chargers
[14:17]<@Calum> they're normally like £10
[14:17]<@Calum> where do you normally buy from?
[14:17]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah, these ones are pretty good though - I'll always get a genuine one if I can
[14:18]<+camerongray> But they are properly certified.etc and well made
[14:19]<@Calum> got a link?
[14:19]<+camerongray> yep
[14:22]<+camerongray> http://stores.ebay.co.uk/intelle-store
[14:22]<+camerongray> Look fairly bog-standard but they work well - Don't seem cheap or dodgy
[14:23]<@Calum> do they weigh absolutely nothing or do they feel like they have something in them?
[14:23]<+camerongray> Yeah, something in them
[14:23]<@Calum> that's cool
[14:23]<@BC_Programming> I'm tempted to respond to this pull request with
[14:23]<@Calum> still though they're what, £7, genuine ones are normally £9.99
[14:23]<@BC_Programming> "Wow, thank you for your contribution, which amounts to forcing every single person who uses or contributes to this project into using your favourite build system"
[14:24]<@Calum> heh
[14:24]<+camerongray> Yeah, just depends if they have then
[14:24]<+camerongray> them*
[14:24]<@BC_Programming> but I made a longer one, I like my comment about Maven's popularity
[14:24]<+camerongray> Comparing now, feels the same as the genuine one for a d620
[14:24]<@Calum> true, if you can't get a genuine one then they do look alright, I'll add them to my saved sellers just in case
[14:24]<@BC_Programming> "I'm not sure how it got popular, maybe Lady Gaga sang a song about it or something, so now all the kids love it..."
[14:24]<+camerongray> Very fast delivery too which I like
[14:25]<@Calum> cool
[14:27]<@Calum> hmm did I have some extra RAM somewhere or did I use it....
[14:30]<@Calum> victory, I found 3 sticks of 256mb
[14:30]<@Calum> annoyingly, CEX have a 512MB stick for £2, but not anywhere near me and it's not available to buy online
[14:34]<@Calum> I don't understand what people type to get autocorrect to go so wrong...just saw "hi what was your asking price if you don't melons me asking". How do you get melons from mind?
[14:34]<+camerongray> hehehe
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> ugh
[14:35]<@BC_Programming> yet another recruiter with the showstopper question
[14:35]<@BC_Programming> "who have you worked for"
[14:35]<@BC_Programming> because obviously I just "forgot" that section on my resume
[14:39]<@Calum> right, I'm off for tonight, need to do some washing and go pick up Cassie
[14:39]<@Calum> catch you guys later
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[14:58]<@Mulreay> 'How did you get a real lightsaber?' Not even going to give that a moment of my time.
[14:58]<@BC_Programming> lol!
[14:58]<@BC_Programming> just reply with "ebay" and they'll be hunting on ebay for hours
[14:59]<@Mulreay> lol, that would be funny
[15:02]<@Mulreay> Some people from school are very intelligent, some have great skills but some are thick as <censored> pig shite
[15:02]<@BC_Programming> I prefer pudding
[15:06]<@BC_Programming> In the meantime, my afternoon is pretty much scheduled
[15:06]<@BC_Programming> after that "I'll get my dudes to look at your code" reply I'm cleaning up BASeBlock
[15:07]<@BC_Programming> 4447 code convention violations according to mother resharper
[15:08]<@BC_Programming> kinda wish I could just tell it to "fix" everything
[15:08]<@Mulreay> If only that made some sense to me... one of these days I will come back with something intelligent to do with Prgramming and you will be all 'WTF'.
[15:18]<@Mulreay> High five BC_Programming Craig camerongray pottsi oh well you get the idea http://www.ihighfive.com/
[15:18]<+camerongray> hey!
[15:20]<@BC_Programming> wtf
[15:20]<@BC_Programming> sorry just practicing
[15:20]<@Mulreay> heh
[15:21]<@Mulreay> Potatoes wrapped in tin-foil and kept in a cupboard become a welcome consolation if your house burns down.
[15:21]<@BC_Programming> hahaha
[15:24]<@Mulreay> parents could Impress your children by showing them a floppy disk and telling them it's a 3D model of a save icon.
[15:26]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[15:26]<@BC_Programming> I still think it's kinda funny that Save icons still use a floppy :P
[15:28]<@Mulreay> I don't think they have worked out a generic HDD image
[15:28]<@BC_Programming> could just show a folder with an arrow pointing inside, I've seen that for a few of them
[15:28]<@BC_Programming> thing is I think the save icon is actually more recognizable as a save icon
[15:28]<@Mulreay> indeed
[15:29]<@BC_Programming> even those who have never used a floppy, it's just the same icon
[15:29]<@BC_Programming> save*
[15:30]<@Mulreay> I miss floppies, disk swaping with an Amiga and using Xcopy pro to copy friends games
[15:32]<@Mulreay> Now it's torrents and threats of legal action
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> I can see anthropology in the future
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> find some old computer manuals
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> "we think this icon represents their god, we aren't certain what it represents"
[15:45]<@BC_Programming> "many of their literature and documents show a religious zeal for "saving"; we suspect this may be some sort of ritual, perhaps involving virgin sacrifice"
[15:45]<@BC_Programming> "There are some accounts from people of the era about misfortunes that occured when they forgot to save"
[15:51]<@Mulreay> I would pay to go back to the 80's
[15:51]<@Mulreay> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWHOF_0-6Hg
[15:52]<@Mulreay> Bit of Karate Kid
[15:55]<@Mulreay> Had this on LP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDMRJOAwVJg well my Mum and dad did
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[17:35]<@Mulreay> Just walked to Tesco and back for a sandwich.. sweating like a cornered virgin
[17:35]<@Mulreay> I need a new fan
[17:36]<+camerongray> lol, that's nothing, my friend walked from Edinburgh to North Berwick at 3am because he couldn't sleep
[17:36]<+camerongray> Around 30 miles
[17:37]<@Mulreay> wow, that's quite a treck
[17:39]<@Mulreay> Impress the ladies and make them think you can run at immense speeds by gluing lots of little flies to your face.
[17:39]<@BC_Programming> ahh
[17:39]<@BC_Programming> well that was quick
[17:39]<@BC_Programming> went from being happy to being VERY <censored> PISSED
[17:40]<@Mulreay> What did I do now?
[17:40]<@BC_Programming> "This attitude is the exact reason I forked GP for my own use and won't bother to work with the upstream project. You, personally, are arrogant, rude and condescending. You treat everyone like garbage by default, and it's a really shitty way to run a project. I wish you luck in your programming endeavours, but I hope our paths don't cross again. you're unpleasant to work with."
[17:40]<@BC_Programming> Because I wouldn't add Maven support and pointed out that every reason given was actually weasel words conflating their own personal desire to have maven support as what everybody wanted
[17:42]<@Mulreay> Craig are you in?
[17:43]<+Craig> Whats up?
[17:44]<@BC_Programming> well I wouldn't add maven support to a project so apparently I'm a douchebag
[17:44]<@Mulreay> I agree with you on the marrage for the most part.
[17:44]<@Mulreay> marriage*
[17:45]<@BC_Programming> I like marrage
[17:46]<@Mulreay> Honestly I don't believe <censored> people should be allowed to be married
[17:49]<@Mulreay> It goes against there 'God' I don't believe in there 'God' but being married puts you into a contract with there religion. I think people have completely got the whole idea messed up.
[17:51]<@Mulreay> God hates <censored> people and he wants them dead so I feel it's more like 'we want it because why not?'
[17:53]<@Mulreay> Then again God should do his own dirty work rather than his 'followers'
[17:54]<@Mulreay> In yo face GOD.. yeah and your mother
[17:54]<@BC_Programming> "being married puts you into a contract with there religion." Since when?
[17:55]<@Mulreay> Sorry I thought marrage was a religious act.. please enlighten me?
[17:55]<@BC_Programming> 'Holy matrimony' could be considered to be based on religion but marriage predates many religions, including christianity and judaism
[17:56]<@Mulreay> That makes NO sense, marrage is a religious act full stop, no if's buts or maybe's. We get married 'in the face of god' simples.
[17:57]<@BC_Programming> it makes perfect sense. I find it hard to believe that you think that the Ancient Greeks- who got married themselves- were actually getting married under witness by the abrahamic god
[17:57]<@Mulreay> Show me a union between a Man and a woman that does not involve a religion
[17:59]<@Mulreay> Or some belief system
[17:59]<@BC_Programming> Any judge can and do perform marriages. The reason churches can create legally binding contractual marriages (in addition to their own holy matrimony) is because the state gives them that capability. Judges can perform marriages, and they do so in a secular fashion.
[18:00]<@Mulreay> In the name of who?
[18:01]<@BC_Programming> They are entirely secular. I just said
[18:01]<@Mulreay> You can't join two people together without a 'higher power'
[18:02]<@BC_Programming> Why not?
[18:02]<@Mulreay> Unless we both have a joint bank account
[18:02]<@BC_Programming> The "higher power" in this case could be considered the state or government that grants the marriage license
[18:03]<@BC_Programming> note that marriage licenses are not notarized by god; Holy Matrimony's, however, could be considered in that way
[18:03]<@Mulreay> So marrage is nothing to do with god then
[18:04]<@Mulreay> Just because it's been twisted does not mean it's less to do with God
[18:05]<@Mulreay> Marrage is written in the Bible
[18:06]<@Mulreay> marriage*
[18:07]<@BC_Programming> marriage predates recorded history. We are one of many semi-monogamous species. Through jealousy and wanting to guarantee offspring, it makes sense to create social conventions where partners have exclusive romantic/sexual rights to their partner. It only takes a few more steps to move from a social convention to a legal contract; and given the nature it's no surprise that the concept also
[18:07]<@BC_Programming> exists within most religions. In the same sense that religions often prescribe rules for borrowing money; surely you do not think the idea of money lending is something sanctified by god?
[18:08]<@BC_Programming> Religion merely creates the ceremony and some social conventions surrounding it; it predates most religions and recorded history, so ascribing it to any one religion would be illogical; additionally, since it also exists in many isolated secular societies, ascribing it to religion as a whole would be inaccurate as well
[18:10]<@Mulreay> We seem to have met at an impasse, I don't agree with religion nor think there is a God but my point was just the modern society used
[18:10]<@Mulreay> uses, religion for marriage

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Session Start: Fri Jun 28 18:15:08 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [18:15] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[18:15] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[18:15]<Craig> This is how I feel about <censored>'s and their understandings of marriage.
[18:15]<Craig> If there are any gays reading this, I love you and I respect you as a person. I may not agree with your lifestyle but I don't look at you any differently than I do a straight person who has sex before marriage. I apologize on behalf of people who have mistreated and bullied you. But please understand this: When you try to redefine marriage, you're out of your jurisdiction. God already defined
[18:15]<Craig> it. If you want to be homosexual that's totally your call and you do not answer to me for that. But don't cross the line and try to twist a fundamental teaching of God's word into what you think it should be.
[18:15]<Craig> I will not be joining this conversation.
[18:16]<+camerongray> Bloody mibbit's swear filter :P
[18:16]<@Mulreay> Wow I want to know what was cencered
[18:16]<+camerongray> hehehe
[18:16]<+camerongray> For all we know he could be talking about cockerels :P
[18:17]<@BC_Programming> I like the last line. "I don't want to have to properly justify my opinion, so talk amongst yourselves"
[18:17]<@Mulreay> ??
[18:17]<@Mulreay> Did you get a line we didn't?
[18:17]<+camerongray> I suppose it's very different over there, in the UK religion seems to have a much smaller role in everyday life (At least from what I see)
[18:19]<@Mulreay> I agree with Craig
[18:19]<@BC_Programming> trying to say that the Bible, or any religious text, defines marriage is to say that marriage didn't exist before that; The Bible defines how marriage exists between Christians, just as the holy texts of other religions provide the "rules" in which followers of that religion are to be married;
[18:19]<+camerongray> But can't other religions also get married? In that case it would work off of a different religion's 'rules'
[18:20]<@Mulreay> And I actually do have <censored> friends just look at my Facebook,, there;s quite a few
[18:20]<+camerongray> Yeah, same here
[18:20]<@BC_Programming> for example, if memory serves mormonism has it's own definition of marriage which allows for polygamy; which is not sanctioned by the bible, so can we call it marriage?
[18:20]<+camerongray> One of them has a civil parner, still calls him his husband
[18:20]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: That's what I'm thinking
[18:21]<@Mulreay> No BC_Programming were talking about marriage
[18:21]<@BC_Programming> Well yeah but that's the thing, there was marriage in ancient Greece, long before the Bible or many other religious texts were around
[18:22]<@Mulreay> This is why I HATE religion
[18:22]<+camerongray> yep :P
[18:22]<Craig> The bible was scrolls long before the Romans, or Greeks came along, just because Jesus wasnt here doesnt mean that they predate the understanding according to Jews
[18:23]<@BC_Programming> Craig: The bible was not scrolls long before the Romans, or the Greeks. You are saying "even though there is no evidence for scrolls dating back that far, let's assume they exist for the sake of argument"
[18:23]<+camerongray> Wow! Finally: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22650143 - Was shocked to find they still had that rule over there!
[18:25]<@BC_Programming> even then, the scrolls that were to become the bible were edited and changed over time and the 4 canonical gospels were chosen seemingly arbitrarily from a set of around 13 based on the choices of particular church leaders, which is why the Bible doesn't have the Gospel of Judas or the Gospel of Mary Magdalene. Some other sects add those gospels as canonical, or remove others; still others
[18:25]<@BC_Programming> add complete books like the catechism or whatever it's called for Catholicism
[18:26]<@BC_Programming> (*the scrolls themselves weren't edited, but copies were, I should clarify*)
[18:26]<+camerongray> I mean, in my explorer unit it was a completely different story - Probably at least 5 openly g-a-y members (Out of 60) and 2 openly g-a-y leaders - Imagine that in the US!
[18:26]<+camerongray> Come to think of it, I wonder if they ever had any issues with international camps.etc
[18:28]<@Mulreay> One of my best friends https://www.facebook.com/jenny.anytime?fref=ts just saying it's possible to all get along if we just love someone.
[18:28]<@Mulreay> Also known as John Clay
[18:28]<+camerongray> Yeah, I really don't see how it should affect things
[18:29]<@Mulreay> I've known him since we did school plays when I was 12
[18:29]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah, I don't see why people would be like "OMG, I'm not talking to you now"
[18:30]<+camerongray> At least over here it seems a lot more open than in the US
[18:30]<+camerongray> I was astounded about that Scouting in the US thing - I thought the whole point of the organisation was that it was open to everyone!
[18:31]<@Mulreay> I'm not <censored> he is and we went to watch 'Avatar' together then we had dinner in a bar and we still chat
[18:31]<+camerongray> Yeah, a couple of my friends are g-a-y - Noone even thinks about it!
[18:31]<@Mulreay> is <censored> still bad here?
[18:31]<+camerongray> Yep
[18:31]<@Mulreay> OK one sec

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Session Start: Fri Jun 28 18:35:08 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [18:35] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[18:35] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[18:35]<@BC_Programming> I don't know if I can change it, I think it requires owner perm
[18:35]<@BC_Programming> I tried but chanserv was all nope
[18:35]<@Mulreay> You can'y no
[18:35]<@Mulreay> can't
[18:35]<+camerongray> lol
[18:35]<@BC_Programming> he's quick
[18:36]<+camerongray> Just keep doing it :P
[18:36]<@BC_Programming> can you imagine if IRC chanserv or nickserv was a actual person
[18:36]<+camerongray> lol!
[18:36]<@BC_Programming> having to deal with constant pms to ident and stuff
[18:36]<+camerongray> You also get the whole "Don't use g-a-y as a word in any other way" stuff - It's funny since I've heard the g-a-y guys calling their PCs it more than many other people!
[18:37]<@BC_Programming> maybe it's like black people, they can use the n word but nobody else can
[18:37]<+camerongray> lol
[18:37]<+camerongray> They don't mind if you say it either :P
[18:38]<+camerongray> I imagine people over from the US are probably pretty surprised at how open we are over here though
[18:38]<@Mulreay> The bots work this way, you add all your own swears like tw@t and so on but then you have to use the mibbit swear words, everytime you get 'censored' its a mibbit swear not a bot swear and you add 'censor' with <> so that your bot thinks censor is a swear word and then it kicks/bans you
[18:39]<+camerongray> yeah
[18:42]<@Mulreay> You watch a British TV program here camerongray and we say 'f*ck' and they are like 'oh sorry can we say that' and were like 'go nuts say what you want'.
[18:42]<+camerongray> l;ol yeah
[18:42]<+camerongray> I love when you get lecturers swearing too :P
[18:43]<+camerongray> Then the glaswegien guy at work
[18:44]<Tux2> lol, wow, how did we get on this subject?
[18:44]<@Mulreay> Have you seen this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l789l6np-qA
[18:44]<+camerongray> Come into the office "<expletive> ScotRail, bunch of <expletive>." "Why are <client> a bunch of <expletive>" :P
[18:44]<+camerongray> Tux2: lol, Mulreay started it I think :P
[18:44]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, wish our lecturers did that
[18:45]<Tux2> lol, gotcha. It's a wonder what gets discussed in here
[18:45]<Tux2> and we all stay friends
[18:45]<+camerongray> Computer Help obviously!
[18:45]<Tux2> ROFL!
[18:46]<+camerongray> We aren't CH - "I believe one thing, you believe something different, I now hate you"
[18:46]<Tux2> We should just rename the channel #randommusings
[18:46]<+camerongray> lol
[18:46]<@Mulreay> all you have to do is clear your cache Tux2
[18:47]<+camerongray> We're very mixed here :P - All different countries, beliefs, ages.etc
[18:47]<Tux2> lol, it's all good times though. Being able to have intelligent conversations with intelligent people who don't get offended.
[18:47]<+camerongray> Yeah
[18:48]<+camerongray> I should get one of my friends in here - If he was here during any homosexuality or SNP discussion, we would probably crash mibbit
[18:49]<@Mulreay> The big difference here is that we had a moment of argument and we all got over it within 20mins
[18:49]<Tux2> lol, yup
[18:49]<+camerongray> lol - This guy has had arguments on twitter lasting a day :P
[18:49]<Tux2> ROFL!
[18:50]<Tux2> One of my good friends is bisexual, I may not agree with it, but we do agree to disagree on that point.
[18:50]<+camerongray> Oh look, just checked his twitter...
[18:50]<+camerongray> First tweet - Part of an SNP related argument
[18:50]<+camerongray> Second, a g-a-y rights related tweet :P
[18:51]<+camerongray> THen just lots of SNP stuff
[18:52]<Tux2> lol
[18:54]<+camerongray> Then again, when i say arguemnt, It's more of a very long discussion
[18:54]<+camerongray> Almost everyone at uni is like that - Apart from one of the Free Software Foundation guys :P
[18:54]<+camerongray> Richard Stallman Jr
[18:56]<+camerongray> I'm trying to write an essay - He sits talking *at* me about the fact I was using MS word
[18:58]<@Mulreay> If you have seen my 'facebook' I will attack any of you with a lightsabre
[18:58]<Tux2> lol camerongray
[19:00]<+camerongray> lol
[19:00]<+camerongray> I remember that picture!
[19:00]<+camerongray> Cooler than mine!
[19:00]<@Mulreay> lol, it's a good 2yrs old
[19:01]<+camerongray> I don't have any photos of me :P
[19:01]<+camerongray> Well, normal ones that is
[19:01]<@BC_Programming> I don't have any photos of you either
[19:01]<+camerongray> hehehe
[19:02]<@Mulreay> me https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1448926657639&set=t.1067384361&type=1&theater
[19:02]<+camerongray> Yeah
[19:02]<@Mulreay> I need better hair
[19:02]<+camerongray> The only ones I have are at certain events - Not just like normal me :P
[19:03]<+camerongray> Come to think of it - the most normal one of me is when I'm eating off a MacBook :P
[19:03]<+camerongray> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=630738306939523&set=t.100000514484246&type=3&theater
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[19:04]<@Mulreay> You look like you are thinking what to do after finding a big bug
[19:04]<+camerongray> lol
[19:05]<+camerongray> Was more trying to not look as though I was laughing at my friend trying to take a photo on his phone that just doesn't work :P
[19:05]<+camerongray> Oh there's a normal one - I'm chasing a dog that stole our cutlery
[19:06]<@Mulreay> One of these days we will get BC_Programming image...
[19:06]<+camerongray> lol
[19:06]<+camerongray> Yeah
[19:06]<+camerongray> Same with Jacky - strange to think we don't know what we look like!"
[19:07]<@Mulreay> You will NEVER see jacky trust me, we have chatted on thi a LOT and no you won't.
[19:07]<+camerongray> Yeah :P
[19:07]<@Mulreay> I know his name though
[19:07]<+camerongray> I think I do
[19:07]<Tux2> lol
[19:08]<@Mulreay> Do tell
[19:08]<Tux2> camerongray: best use for a mac: a tray
[19:08]<+camerongray> Most photos of me are at formal events like school prom - Where my camera was crap so makes me look like an idiot and where I was so hot I was about to pass out!
[19:08]<+camerongray> Tux2: lol
[19:09]<+camerongray> Looking at these - Never knew how bad my camera actually was with the flash!
[19:09]<+camerongray> Oooh, something black - Lets make it blue
[19:09]<Tux2> lol
[19:09]<@Mulreay> camerongray his name?
[19:09]<Tux2> I'm sure you can find pictures of me on the interwebz
[19:10]<+camerongray> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200198178904779&set=t.100001549088637&type=1&theater
[19:10]<+camerongray> That was easy :P
[19:10]<Craig> Man, I used to go to Camp, and Church with this Kid, his music is pretty awesome, http://www.northcotemusic.com/
[19:12]<Tux2> lol, not the best picture of me
[19:12]<+camerongray> lol - Better than most of mine!
[19:12]<+camerongray> My old profile pic, *shudders*
[19:13]<@Mulreay> Most of mine are pulling faces
[19:13]<+camerongray> Combination of my crappy camera, room with 150 people in it and no a/c with one window open, wearing a kilt wich is ridiculously hot and being completely exhausted!
[19:15]<+camerongray> That and the fact that if someone takes a photo of me, and I know it - I can never work out what to do :P
[19:15]<@BC_Programming> Oh tux did you see the happy comment on the latest attempt to try to force GP to use Maven?
[19:15]<@Mulreay> To be fair the only person who looked different than I expected was Craig
[19:15]<+camerongray> So I'm usually smiling oddly and looking in a strange direction
[19:15]<+camerongray> Like when someone takes a photo when I'm trying to see what lens they have :P
[19:16]<+camerongray> can't remember what I expected Craig to look like
[19:16]<Tux2> BC_Programming: link?
[19:16]<@Mulreay> I imagine that BC_Programming looks like an older camerongray
[19:16]<+camerongray> lol
[19:16]<+camerongray> And we'll never know :(
[19:17]<@BC_Programming> https://github.com/Tux2/GriefPrevention/pull/8
[19:18]<@BC_Programming> I mean seriously when you basically say that "everybody making Extensions that depend on GriefPrevention will benefit from this change" I'm going to call it out
[19:18]<@Mulreay> Only because your fingers look like you need to eat
[19:18]<+camerongray> hehehe - Why am I not fat? :P
[19:19]<@Mulreay> And your both tall as hell
[19:19]<+camerongray> lol - Craig still wins on that one
[19:20]<@Mulreay> Yeah he's one big buddy
[19:20]<Craig> And I am still the heavyest as well.
[19:20]<+camerongray> lol
[19:20]<+camerongray> I'm really tall but really thin - Getting clothes is fun, NOT!
[19:20]<@Mulreay> Who's the tallest?
[19:21]<Craig> ... I am really tall, and large, getting clothes is fun, but very challenging. :P
[19:21]<Craig> I am
[19:21]<@Mulreay> I'm 5ft 2"
[19:22]<@BC_Programming> I'm 17 kilograms tall.
[19:22]<+camerongray> lol!
[19:22]<@Mulreay> lol BC_Programming
[19:22]<+camerongray> I'm just over 6ft - BUt something mad like a 30" waist
[19:22]<Craig> Bahahahaha, this is what came up when I looked for Michael Burgwin photo's on Google. http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb20/nowmindfulheart/TILLMAN-729249.jpg
[19:22]<@BC_Programming> damn you found me
[19:23]<@Mulreay> I have a 40" chest I have one of those weird boddies
[19:23]<+camerongray> lol!
[19:24]<@Mulreay> As we say in Britain 'Built like a **** **** house' camerongray may be able to fill that in
[19:24]<+camerongray> I remember filling in the self-measurement thing for my kilt, they emailed me to get me to double check as they seemed out of proportion :P
[19:24]<Craig> Hahahahahaah
[19:24]<@BC_Programming> I'm a navy SEAL who specializes in Gorilla warfare
[19:25]<@BC_Programming> I commanded an entire batallion of gorillas
[19:25]<Craig> I have a 40-42" chest, but I have man boobs so I don't think that counts. :P
[19:25]<@Mulreay> You sound like a youtube comment BC_Programming
[19:26]<@Mulreay> I also have tatoos
[19:26]<+camerongray> I think it was like 26" long but something like 24" waist and 30" hips :P
[19:26]<@BC_Programming> I was later transferred to the Chimp Regiment
[19:26]<+camerongray> All the info was like - Your waste should be larger than your hips... err... nope!
[19:26]<@BC_Programming> Had to learn sign language
[19:26]<+camerongray> waist*
[19:27]<@BC_Programming> sign language is of course where you communicate by hitting people with road signs
[19:27]<+camerongray> Then there's the fun of banging my head on things :P
[19:27]<Craig> I do believe we've lost bc to his thoughts :P
[19:28]<@BC_Programming> that happened long ago
[19:28]<+camerongray> hehehe
[19:28]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: You need to get a proper photo :P
[19:28]<@BC_Programming> Yes yes I do
[19:28]<+camerongray> You said you would ages ago once you had a haircut :P
[19:28]<@BC_Programming> that way I can use it for my MVP Profile
[19:28]<@BC_Programming> yeah needless to say it's even longer now
[19:28]<+camerongray> hehee
[19:29]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[19:29]<@BC_Programming> I'm thinking a picture
[19:30]<@BC_Programming> where I have a rubber duck on my shoulder
[19:30]<+camerongray> lol!
[19:30]<@BC_Programming> because that would be hilarious on the MVP mural, some random guy who has a rubber duck on his shoulder
[19:30]<@BC_Programming> "is the guy the MVP or the Rubber duck?"
[19:30]<+camerongray> hahaha
[19:31]<+camerongray> Big guy in suit, big guy in suit, guy with rubber duck
[19:31]<@BC_Programming> yep pretty much
[19:31]<+camerongray> Do it!
[19:31]<Craig> Me thinks BC, is not such a big guy, possibly tall, but not Big.
[19:31]<+camerongray> Yeah, not fat
[19:31]<@BC_Programming> more like "guy in a suit, chinese guy in a suit, japanese guy in casual, guy with a rubber duck on his shoulder, guy in a s... wait what?"
[19:32]<+camerongray> heheh
[19:32]<Craig> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=638218592857553&set=a.480175548661859.117533.480169731995774&type=1&ref=nf
[19:32]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[19:33]<+camerongray> Anyway, I better go, need sleep!
[19:33]<@BC_Programming> see this is the problem, I always think of good puns when nobody is around
[19:33]<Craig> :P
[19:34]<@BC_Programming> and I think "I should write this down to torment others later" but I don't and then forget what it was
[19:35]<Craig> :P
[19:37]<@Mulreay> I don't think I ever showed you guys this, but Craig and Tux2 have a look at something I did when I was about 18 so about 16yrs ago
[19:38]<+camerongray> It's time for - db tries to diagnose Cameron's PC problem!
[19:38]<+camerongray> [02:34:18] <camerongray> Yeah, I use Linux as my main desktop - But can be a real pain sometimes! :P
[19:38]<+camerongray> [02:34:21] <logicphotos> good saying
[19:38]<+camerongray> [02:35:26] <db100547> yep. there are many advantages of it , some issues , but often surmoutable .
[19:38]<+camerongray> [02:35:30] <logicphotos> I played with a lot of distro be cause of the visual customization
[19:38]<+camerongray> [02:35:42] <camerongray> Like my deskop has a fun quirk when you lock the screen - Sometimes it works fine, others the machine locks up!
[19:38]<+camerongray> [02:36:01] <logicphotos> it looked good with flames and water etc
[19:38]<+camerongray> [02:36:09] <db100547> sounds like code inter-reaction somewhere .
[19:38]<+camerongray> [02:36:21] <camerongray> Yeah, I think it's just a KDE bug
[19:38]<+camerongray> [02:36:29] <db100547> could be a memory stack issue .
[19:38]<+camerongray> [02:36:37] <camerongray> KDE isn't the best from a reliability point of view
[19:38]<+camerongray> [02:36:39] <logicphotos> I used mint mostly
[19:40]<Tux2> lol
[19:40]<Tux2> BC_Programming: take a look at my comment
[19:44]<@Mulreay> I've had this tat for about 16-17yrs Craig Tux2 I may have shown you this before
[19:44]<@Mulreay> http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6135/pjg6.jpg
[19:44]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: I love his response... basically ignores everything I said entirely
[19:46]<@Mulreay> I'm sooooo old
[19:47]<Tux2> lol, yup BC_Programming
[19:47]<Tux2> I gave a more "civil" response to his response.
[19:47]<+camerongray> I;ve got a tatoo :P - Well, a little dot from where I somhow managed to stab myself with my pen :P
[19:47]<Tux2> lol camerongray
[19:48]<@BC_Programming> but mine was civil... he just didn't read it
[19:48]<Tux2> exactly
[19:48]<Tux2> I just did a tldr version
[19:48]<@BC_Programming> ahh fair enough
[19:51]<@Mulreay> 'Your up late' no I'm just up with my friends.. 'Honest comment on Facebook'
[19:51]<@Mulreay> Not saying it's a good thing
[19:51]<+camerongray> lol
[19:52]<Tux2> I'm basically coming in to kind of moderate it and show him my position and why we don't want to mavenize in a tldr version, and re-opening the request as a way to let him know we are willing to work with him
[19:52]<+camerongray> At work today I was testing a game it said "You have no friends" :P
[19:52]<+camerongray> It was a sad day
[19:52]<@Mulreay> heh
[19:52]<@Mulreay> That's harsh
[19:53]<+camerongray> Then I got a friend! It was my other test account!
[19:53]<@Mulreay> lol
[19:54]<Tux2> lol
[19:55]<@Mulreay> I need to remove my glitchpc video.. I used to like that wanker
[19:55]<+camerongray> lol
[19:57]<@BC_Programming> oh that's pleasant
[19:57]<@BC_Programming> maven requires setting JAVA_HOME
[20:05]<@Mulreay> I think I have known you for over 4yrs BC_Programming... this is not healthy you werido OK I was fine with possums and bears but as we started to know each other there are no new animals. You had a chance to follow up with maybe a squirrel or a toad but no you got lazy. Now there are no tree dwelling animals and no simple Ocean dwelling beings. You let the team down and and I speak for the
[20:05]<@Mulreay> community when we say 'where the F are the animals?'
[20:06]<@BC_Programming> I mentioned gorillas earlier
[20:06]<@Mulreay> Not good enough and you know it
[20:06]<Craig> And Maven is an interpreter right? Or a plugin?
[20:06]<@BC_Programming> it's a build system for transitional dependency management
[20:08]<@Mulreay> This place used to be better 'sniff sniff'
[20:08]<+camerongray> lol
[20:09]<+camerongray> Why am I still awake!
[20:09]<@BC_Programming> ok let me rephrase mulreay
[20:09]<@Mulreay> I asked that a while back
[20:09]<@BC_Programming> it's a build system for transitional dependency management and also for possums
[20:09]<+camerongray> thehee
[20:09]<+camerongray> GAH, still here!
[20:10]<@Mulreay> I almost smiled... keep going
[20:10]<+camerongray> Closing IRC in 3
[20:10]<Craig> Hahahaha, I think he mean't about the lack of the original animals. :P
[20:10]<+camerongray> 2
[20:10]<+camerongray> 1
[20:10]<Craig> Noooo
[20:10]<@BC_Programming> when you close IRC we all die
[20:10]<@BC_Programming> we only exist while you are on IRC
[20:10]<@BC_Programming> hmm.... I have a project called BASePopper and I have no clue what it is
[20:11]<@Mulreay> Yes camerongray when you turn off irc we no longer exist
[20:11]<Craig> Hahahahaha, How do you not know what it is?
[20:11]<Craig> And I think camerongray is still running that sudo connection, where he has a server that chats and he logs into that, so he never truly leaves :p
[20:11]<@Mulreay> Well I want a story about bears
[20:12]<@BC_Programming> Quassel
[20:12]<@BC_Programming> He did that when I protested our frequently being thrown into the void
[20:13]<@BC_Programming> darkness, with the occasional spark of consciousness. Fear. Also I seem to recall a lot of bananas
[20:13]<@BC_Programming> which peeled themselves, revealing they were filled with bears
[20:13]<@BC_Programming> but not just any bears, Grizzly Nazi Zombie Bears
[20:14]<@Mulreay> 10 CLS
[20:14]<@Mulreay> 20 PRINT "Can we bear?!"
[20:14]<@Mulreay> END
[20:14]<@BC_Programming> I gave you a bear story, what more do you want
[20:14]<@BC_Programming> I'm tired and not in bear story mode. One cannot force bear story mode
[20:14]<@BC_Programming> it just happens
[20:15]<@Mulreay> heh
[20:15]<@Mulreay> OK maybe next week
[20:16]<@Mulreay> Goodnight peeps
[20:29]<Tux2> lol, how about pony story mode?
[20:30]<@BC_Programming> but I already wrote a fanfiction
[20:33]<Tux2> ha ha!
[20:33]<Tux2> Meh, we just need alligators now
[20:34]<@BC_Programming> My Little Gummy, My Little Gummy
[20:35]<Tux2> ROFL!
[20:35]<Tux2> Nah, I changed my mind, I say turtles, erm, um, tortoises.
[20:35]<@BC_Programming> Tank
[20:43]<@BC_Programming> I shall cultivate a glorious beard
[20:43]<@BC_Programming> now the question is to moustache or not to moustache
[20:43]<@BC_Programming> or perhaps neither, feels like my face is a freaking bramble bush
[20:44]<Tux2> lol
[20:44]<Tux2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uol4GAfgh78
[20:47]<@BC_Programming> gaga
[20:47]<@BC_Programming> haha*
[20:47]<@BC_Programming> I like the last one with the villager rave heh
[20:47]<@BC_Programming> but villagers are hilarious in 1.6
[21:02]<@BC_Programming> http://i.imgur.com/JGKuZqb.gif
[21:59]<@BC_Programming> http://i.imgur.com/ShYCwiQ.jpg
[22:54]<Tux2> lol BC_Programming