Session Start: Sun Jun 02 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[00:00] * Set by jacky on Tue Mar 02 11:03:23
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[04:30]<@BC_Programming> gat_man seems like a nice enough guy... coherency of a Toddler though
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[05:03]<@BC_Programming> greetings jacky
[05:03]<@jacky> BC_Programming: Hello
[05:04]<@jacky> isn't it 4:00 am for you??
[05:04]<@BC_Programming> yes
[05:04]<@jacky> up early? or staying up late?
[05:04]<@jacky> heh
[05:04]<@BC_Programming> both?
[05:04]<@jacky> hehe
[05:04]<@jacky> I couldn't sleep... sigh
[05:05]<@jacky> I used to NEVER have this happen
[05:05]<@BC_Programming> yes did seem a bit early for you to be about now that you mention it
[05:05]<@jacky> said screw it, and got up. Might do some things outdoors before it gets real warm
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[05:05]<@jacky> and take a nap later... if I can
[05:06]<@BC_Programming> that's not a bad idea at all; "beat the heat" heh
[05:06]<@jacky> yep. it finally kicked in here
[05:06]<@jacky> been above normal, I think
[05:07]<@jacky> tomorrow though, back to normal for a week or so, they say
[05:07]<@BC_Programming> I can't stand when it get's hot here, can't even imagine what it's like for you
[05:07]<@jacky> what's it like up there, this time of year?
[05:07]<@jacky> what is 'normal' temps for now, for you?
[05:07]<@BC_Programming> reasonable, sometimes it get's hot but no doubt nothing like what you are used to
[05:07]<@jacky> 70ish?
[05:07]<@jacky> and remember... you think I have it hot... it is nothing here, compared to farther south. heh
[05:08]<@BC_Programming> ~20c
[05:08]<@jacky> ug
[05:08]<@jacky> I remember that 25C is just nice
[05:08]<@BC_Programming> so 68f
[05:08]<@jacky> that's the only one that I remember
[05:08]<@BC_Programming> I'm the reverse of you on that I think "natively" in celsius and have to think about the Fahrenheit scale :P
[05:09]<@jacky> 20C = 68F
[05:09]<@jacky> google is my friend
[05:09]<@jacky> online (for what that is worth) says it is 70F here right now. 7:09am
[05:09]<@BC_Programming> :O
[05:10]<@jacky> predicting 84 today.
[05:10]<@BC_Programming> since I'm on the coast (not lost though thankfully) there is usually a cool breeze from the Ocean even in teh hottest temps
[05:10]<@jacky> har
[05:10]<@jacky> how close are you to the ocean?
[05:11]<@jacky> because I have great influence here too.
[05:11]<@BC_Programming> I can see it from here... well, when outside
[05:11]<@jacky> that's closer than me
[05:11]<@jacky> I'm about 7 miles I think, as the crow flies
[05:11]<@jacky> on the beach, they are usually cooler
[05:11]<@jacky> but inland from me,.... they are usually hotter... noticeable.
[05:12]<@jacky> but tell me... when you look out over it, do you wave to the Japanese? .... sometimes I wave at camerongray, Mulreay, and Calum.
[05:12]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[05:13]<@jacky> you laugh.
[05:13]<@jacky> just ask 'em
[05:13]<@jacky> <g>
[05:13]<@BC_Programming> Actually I'm on the wrong coast sorta.... The coast is actually a straight so it's facing towards the mainland
[05:13]<@BC_Programming> strait*
[05:13]<@jacky> ah.
[05:13]<@jacky> well...
[05:13]<@jacky> I tried
[05:13]<@jacky> hehe
[05:13]<@BC_Programming> whew almost didn't catch that in time
[05:13]<@jacky> heheeh
[05:14]<@jacky> THAT one would fall under "typo", since it is not repeated often
[05:14]<@jacky> hehehee
[05:14]<@BC_Programming> your right, but the same doesn't apply to the start if this sentence
[05:15]<@jacky> "of"
[05:15]<@jacky> >g<
[05:15]<@jacky> Ah iz rite, two!
[05:15] * @BC_Programming hangs his head in shame
[05:16]<@jacky> just don't you dare program anything!!!
[05:16]<@BC_Programming> right need to watch for that
[05:16]<@BC_Programming> oh somebody tried to call me out... or something, couldn't make sense of what they said
[05:16]<@BC_Programming> <PCdoc> wow!! BC_Programming ... i like the way he shoos off ppl from forums when they complain with there baseless attitude on chat :P
[05:17]<@BC_Programming> Not sure if that was a compliment or what... I took it as one
[05:17]<@jacky> I'd have to see that in context... I'm not getting it either
[05:18]<@jacky> Strait of Georgia ? (you've caused me to bring up a google map...)
[05:18]<@BC_Programming> Strait of Juan de Fuca, but I think that's part of the Strait of Georgia
[05:18]<@BC_Programming> yep
[05:19]<@jacky> well heck... you are like 50 miles or so from the ocean
[05:19]<@jacky> hehhe
[05:19]<@BC_Programming> but the water is ocean water
[05:19]<@BC_Programming> ...and stuff
[05:19]<@jacky> mostly wet
[05:20]<@BC_Programming> mostly
[05:20]<@jacky> you can see Gabriola island, but not Vancouver?
[05:20]<@BC_Programming> when visibility is good, we can see the Rockies, or at least some set of Mountains
[05:21]<@BC_Programming> oh wait derp
[05:21]<@BC_Programming> it is the Strait of Georgia
[05:21]<@jacky> that could be way inland, if I recall, they have real height
[05:21]<@BC_Programming> Juan De Fuca is the bottom
[05:22]<@jacky> looks like a term that I should put in chanbot, as a "bad" word
[05:22]<@BC_Programming> lol
[05:22]<@jacky> http://www.kiteloft.com/beachcam and look on the horizon to the left. See that black dot? That's camerongray's castle
[05:22]<@jacky> heh
[05:23]<@jacky> oh... that ain't no strait. That be the ocean. like.... 3,000 miles of it.
[05:23]<@BC_Programming> I want a castle
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[05:23]<@BC_Programming> camerongray gimme your castle
[05:24]<@jacky> camerongray's big stone type? or the sand type that you might see in that cam?
[05:24]<@jacky> hehe
[05:24]<@BC_Programming> I have to confess I don't have Java installed in my browsers so I can't see it
[05:24]<@jacky> ah
[05:24]<@BC_Programming> You caught me
[05:24]<@jacky> I have it blocked with script blocker, and have to allow it
[05:24]<@jacky> heh
[05:24]<@jacky> why no java? any reason?
[05:25]<@BC_Programming> in the browser it has security issues supposedly
[05:25]<@BC_Programming> also it's annoying
[05:25]<@jacky> you use Firefox?
[05:25]<@BC_Programming> Primarily
[05:25]<@jacky> what did you hear about security? ... fill me in
[05:26]<@jacky> in other words, I sort of thought I was ok... using script blocker
[05:27]<@BC_Programming> the security thing isn't huge, nothing automatic at least, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/23/java_reflection_api_an_insecure_mess/
[05:27]<@BC_Programming> I basically just forgo it to avoid having to make sure it's updated and junk, and it hasn't effected me at all until today :P
[05:28]<@jacky> heh
[05:28]<@jacky> I see it says, "...but clicking yes to allow a malicious app to execute."
[05:29]<@jacky> so.. with that, on top of simply blocking it most of the time with script blocker... I'm ok, I think
[05:29]<@BC_Programming> I'd say so
[05:29]<@BC_Programming> but don't hold me liable as an expert witness if things go sour
[05:29]<@jacky> I just have the advantage over you... that if and when I want it, I can enable it for a site, with a click or two
[05:30]<@jacky> well... to be 100% safe, we all need to unplug our computers, and use them for paper weights, eh?
[05:30]<@BC_Programming> or make them into lamps
[05:30]<@jacky> and rub them?
[05:30]<@jacky> genies and such?
[05:30]<@BC_Programming> that reminds me of a joke
[05:30]<@jacky> here we go...
[05:31]<@jacky> getting tea... you type... brb
[05:32]<@BC_Programming> a guy rubs a lamp and a genius comes out. The guy asks the Genius for a Wish. The Genius says. "I don't grant wishes, I wish for Grants"
[05:33]<@jacky> heh
[05:33]<@jacky> am I supposed to overlook "genius" ?
[05:33]<@BC_Programming> no that's on purpose
[05:33]<@jacky> porpoise?
[05:34]<@BC_Programming> it was porpoiseful, like the aquatic mammal uprising
[05:34]<@jacky> can they rise above sea level now?
[05:34]<@BC_Programming> "The dolphins will bring new porpoise to the Earth"
[05:34]<@jacky> or is that just Nessie?
[05:34]<@jacky> we should ask camerongray....
[05:35]<@BC_Programming> didn't they trawl that lack and find nothing but a few dozen discarded bagpipes
[05:35]<@BC_Programming> lake*
[05:35]<@jacky> you're loving it, ain't ya? "lack"
[05:35]<@jacky> hehe
[05:35]<@jacky> so you think Nessis is just a big blow bag?
[05:36]<@BC_Programming> I have know idea
[05:36]<@BC_Programming> ^ couldn't resist
[05:36]<@jacky> oh.. I could tell that!
[05:36]<@jacky> hehe
[05:45]<@jacky> 
[05:46]<@jacky> see you all later ...
[05:46]<@jacky> 
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[06:17]<jamer> Welp im picking up the laptop in a couple hours
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[07:01]<+camerongray> lol!
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[08:35]<jamer> Hello
[08:36]<+camerongray> hey
[08:36]<jamer> Gonna use my free month all I can
[08:37]<jamer> Im not home :p
[08:37]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[08:37]<+camerongray> lol
[08:37]<jamer> And I have 3g
[08:38]<+camerongray> nice!
[08:39]<jamer> And I have unlimited data XD
[08:39]<+camerongray> Sweet! I get that with my phone, it's awesome
[08:39]<+camerongray> And expensive :(
[08:39]<jamer> 35 a month for me
[08:39]<+camerongray> ?37 here
[08:40]<+camerongray> I could go a lot cheaper though
[08:40]<+camerongray> That contract also includes a handset (Galaxy Nexus which I later sold and bought a Nexus 4)
[08:40]<jamer> Mines no contract
[08:40]<+camerongray> After the contract runs out I can just get a SIM with unlimited data for ?12
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[09:06]<jamer> Just bought theblaptop
[09:11]<jamer> Camerongrey
[09:11]<jamer> It has bluetooth!
[09:24]<+camerongray> Nice!
[09:27]<jamer> Irs core duo not core 2
[09:27]<jamer> It works XD
[09:27]<+camerongray> cool!
[09:28]<jamer> The core 2 duo not being there is a slight bummer
[09:30]<+camerongray> Yeah, but the difference isn't huge though
[09:30]<+camerongray> Just not 64bit
[09:31]<+camerongray> You might be able to upgrade it, not sure
[09:31]<+camerongray> And CPUs like that are dirt cheap
[09:33]<jamer> Socket m
[09:34]<jamer> Screen doesnt have dead pixels
[09:34]<jamer> And its the intel gpu
[09:36]<+camerongray> cool!
[09:36]<+camerongray> Intel graphics may be better at that age, NVIDIA had a lot of problems with failure around that time
[09:36]<jamer> Yeah cause of solder issues
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[09:37]<jamer> Has 4 gb like he said
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[09:45]<jamer> Camerongrey ... not bad for 50
[09:46]<Holdenator_9000> I'm new to this room
[09:46]<jamer> Hi
[09:46]<Holdenator_9000> hi jamer
[09:48]<Holdenator_9000> camerongray: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/129jf
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[10:22]<+camerongray> [17:22:10] <Kewl_Beans> SDD are not up to speed with traditional spinning drives
[10:46]<jamer> O.o
[10:52]<jamer> Ssds are way fastrr
[10:53]<+camerongray> [17:49:42] <db100547> in fact used for data files , programs , not part of the os , they could slower .
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[11:00]<+camerongray> [17:55:01] <db100547> camerongray: constant change of parmeters used by the program over time , will slow them down . the parameter files are the cause, those used by the program . .
[11:00]<+camerongray> Doesn't even make sense!
[11:00]<+camerongray> Now slilent when I asked him for evidence
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[11:23]<@Calum> ok, nobody saw that, act cool
[11:23]<jamer> lol
[11:27]<+camerongray> Hey Calum
[11:27]<@Calum> hey camerongray
[11:28]<jamer> im on my laptop atm
[11:28]<jamer> it works great
[11:28]<+camerongray> Calum: Convince me why I shouldn't buy Haswell :P
[11:28]<@Calum> What are you on now, SB?
[11:29]<+camerongray> Ivy :P
[11:29]<@Calum> but you have that upgrade itch right?
[11:29]<+camerongray> yep :P
[11:30]<@Calum> speaking from experience...just buy it, otherwise that itch will just carry on and you'll buy something more expensive ;)
[11:30]<+camerongray> This is the guy who a year ago had a MacBook Pro and now has a ThinkPad x230 with a ThinkPad x201 and a ThinkPad x220 in between :P
[11:30]<+camerongray> lol - You aren't helping :P
[11:30]<@Calum> look at me - I put off upgrading for ages, and now I'm building an SR-2
[11:30]<@Calum> do you want to be me?
[11:30]<+camerongray> lol!
[11:30]<@Calum> do you want to end up buying an SR-X2 or whatever they call it next?
[11:31]<@Calum> buy haswell, it will be cheaper overall
[11:31]<+camerongray> Yeah :P
[11:31]<+camerongray> You are a monster :P
[11:31]<@Calum> I know :)
[11:31]<@Calum> haha
[11:31]<+camerongray> I'll see how much I sell these laptops for
[11:31]<+camerongray> Did I tell you about them?
[11:32]<@Calum> You told me about some laptops, but I have a feeling these are more laptops lol
[11:32]<+camerongray> lol, got them a few days aog
[11:33]<+camerongray> ?40 for both a Sony Vaio with Pentium T3400, 3gb RAM and 250gb HDD and a Toshiba L300 with another T3400, 2gb and 160gb
[11:33]<@Calum> faults?
[11:33]<+camerongray> Nada!
[11:33]<@Calum> did you steal them?
[11:33]<+camerongray> eBay!
[11:34]<+camerongray> Also included another 2 state of the art ones
[11:34]<+camerongray> Dell Latitude LS and Compaq Armada m700
[11:34]<@Calum> was it one of those "job lot, untested" listings?
[11:34]<+camerongray> Pentium III 400 and Pentium II 366 respectively
[11:34]<+camerongray> Nah, They were all sold as working (ish)!
[11:34]<@Calum> fair enough
[11:34]<+camerongray> The Toshiba was described as the screen had broken, they had fitted a new one but it still didn't work and had given up
[11:34]<+camerongray> LVDS cable wasn't in fully!
[11:35]<+camerongray> So the screen is brand new, had it's protective cover on still
[11:35]<@Calum> haha
[11:35]<+camerongray> So the money from that plus selling my IB stuff should go towards haswell
[11:35]<jamer> XD
[11:35]<@Calum> nicely worked out
[11:35]<+camerongray> Yeah :P
[11:35]<@Calum> you know it makes sense
[11:35]<+camerongray> How much do you think I could easily sell a 3770k and GA-Z77X-UD5H for?
[11:36]<@Calum> let me check on recent pricing for you, 2 seconds
[11:36]<@Calum> I can offer you ?10, right here, right now, if you want a quick sale
[11:36]<jamer> XD
[11:36]<+camerongray> lol!
[11:36]<jamer> i bought a core duo laptop for more Calum XD
[11:37]<@Calum> worth a try!
[11:37]<@Calum> 3770K sold last week for ?160, ebay will be a little more
[11:37]<+camerongray> Hmm, cool
[11:37]<@Calum> UD5H sold for ?80 but it's not a very common board on the forum, so there aren't many that have been sold overall
[11:38]<jamer> XD ... so the previous owner left his google account signed in
[11:38]<@Calum> I would aim for maybe ?300-ish on ebay?
[11:40]<@Calum> just checked completed listings and the CPU seems to go for about ?175, board again is not common but one went for ?115, BUT A BUNDLE OF THE cpu, BOARD AND 16gb WENT FOR ?390...GO FIGURE LOL
[11:40]<@Calum> really, caps lock?
[11:40]<@Calum> do you really have to be right there?
[11:40]<+camerongray> Oh, you're an admin
[11:40]<@Calum> haha
[11:40]<@Calum> yeah that's right, you back down
[11:40]<jamer> lol
[11:41]<+camerongray> lol
[11:42]<+camerongray> Question is how do I determine whether a bundle or separate could make more, could just be one crazy person :P
[11:42]<@Calum> yeah it's possible, I always sell stuff separately on ebay because it spreads out the risk, if you sell a bundle and the guy's an ass about it, claims through PP etc, you have no money from it
[11:43]<@Calum> whereas if you sell it separately, chances are at elast one ale will go smoothly
[11:43]<+camerongray> Yeah
[11:43]<@Calum> I hate this keyboard
[11:43]<@Calum> but yeah, just spreads the risk out, I take a negative view of Ebay in honesty
[11:43]<@Calum> I just take the worst case scenario and plan for that, I'm usually pleasantly surprised
[11:44]<+camerongray> Yeah
[11:45]<+camerongray> Oh yeah Calum - You missed the ISS flyover last night: http://s1146.photobucket.com/user/camerongray1515/library/Space%20Stuff/2013-06-02?sort=3&page=1
[11:45]<+camerongray> Amazing to see!
[11:46]<@Calum> I was dead to the world last night hah, I'll check out the pics now
[11:46]<@Calum> wow, that's pretty awesome
[11:47]<+camerongray> Yeah it was
[11:47]<+camerongray> Mulreay pointed it out
[11:54]<jamer> i know thw first first thing im buying ... a battery
[11:55]<+camerongray> HH
[11:55]<+camerongray> ahh*
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[12:30]<Holdenator_9000> something
[12:30]<guest_52> something indeed
[12:31]<Holdenator_9000> nom nom nom
[12:31]<guest_52> congrats. You have officially knocked over a pop can.
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[14:14]<@Mulreay> Hit 220 subs
[14:23]<+camerongray> nice!
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[15:23]<@BC_Programming> what's up shizzle whizzles
[15:24]<@Mulreay> Not much ma Nerdizzle
[15:24]<@BC_Programming> shiggity whizzle ma bro hizzle fizzle tizzle
[15:25]<@BC_Programming> I challenged you to an izzle-off
[15:25]<@Mulreay> Ma frizzle I would never dizzle wizzle on your teenizzle ma fizzle
[15:26]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[15:26]<@Mulreay> Stop pulling ma tedizzle-wizzle as your cramping my ludizzle forwizzle bizzle.. you get me personizzle?
[15:26]<@BC_Programming> uh... yes?
[15:26]<@Mulreay> YES?
[15:27]<@BC_Programming> wait No... No, Maybe?
[15:27]<@Mulreay> I thought better of you than that
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[15:28]<@BC_Programming> lol
[15:28]<@BC_Programming> well done
[15:28]<@Mulreay> heh
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[15:29]<@BC_Programming> heh
[15:29]<@BC_Programming> <@lostcoast> I run this chat you do as I say
[15:29]<@BC_Programming> <@lostcoast> PERIOD
[15:29]<@Mulreay> wow
[15:29]<@BC_Programming> I didn't even make that up, seriously
[15:32]<@Mulreay> Love that place
[15:32]<@Mulreay> I had a message off quantos somewhere.. will have a look for it
[15:32]<@BC_Programming> I thought You and Quantos were friends somewhat
[15:33]<@BC_Programming> actually didn't he used to hang out in here long ago?
[15:34]<@Mulreay> I did send the reply quite late so not sure he got it
[15:34]<@Mulreay> [15:55] <Quantos> Hey buddy, I'm sorry about having to kick you yesterday. I consider you a friend. How have you been doing, it's been ages since we talked last.
[15:34]<@Mulreay> [17:32] <Mulreay> That's OK come into #glitchpc and I can get even.
[15:35]<@BC_Programming> lol
[15:35]<@BC_Programming> But he was just following orders! lol
[15:35]<@Mulreay> Not spoke to the guy in a LONG time
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[15:37]<@BC_Programming> "Sorry about having to gas you... just had to appease Mein Fuhrer"
[15:37]<@Mulreay> lol
[15:38]<@BC_Programming> I did like the conversation I had with him a few days ago
[15:38]<@BC_Programming> He's saying Windows 8 has a bunch of these problems that make it impossible to rollback to win7
[15:39]<@BC_Programming> Every single thing he brought up- pummelled into the dirt as one would expect from me no doubt
[15:39]<@BC_Programming> then it's "let's just drop it"
[15:40] * Mulreay is now known as Guest31337
[15:40]<@Guest31337> Seeing if anyone clocks the nick
[15:41]<@BC_Programming> heh it's still in your hostmask
[15:41]<@Guest31337> balls
[15:41]<@BC_Programming> lol
[15:41]<@BC_Programming> gat_man is a lot of fun... like arguing with a toddler
[15:42]<@BC_Programming> "XP is the best OS ever, Vista and later are garbage"
[15:42]<@BC_Programming> so I of course ask why
[15:42] * Guest31337 is now known as FusRoDah
[15:42]<@BC_Programming> "they moronify and automate things, and they make it less customizable"
[15:42]<@BC_Programming> well, that, but imagine toddler-speak
[15:43]<@FusRoDah> lol
[15:43]<@BC_Programming> then "and all the better tech magazines say so"
[15:43]<@BC_Programming> "well if your criteria for "better tech magazine" is "prefers XP" than I imagine there will be bias..."
[15:45]<@BC_Programming> Oh btw apparently Jacky waves to you Calum and cam when he looks over the Atlantic
[15:45]<@BC_Programming> so if you ever get shivers like somebody walked over your grave, that's why
[15:45]<@FusRoDah> lol
[15:49]<@BC_Programming> "malwarebytes does NOT check for virus's ., only malware." Wow
[15:50]<@BC_Programming> viruses are malware -_-
[15:51]<@FusRoDah> Yeah, the drivel coming from that place is epic
[15:51]<@BC_Programming> that's why I'm logging it
[15:56]<@FusRoDah> Geez I'm turning into one of them...
[15:57]<@FusRoDah> Having a go at people now.. must be contagious
[15:57]<@BC_Programming> stay calm :P
[16:07]<+camerongray> Wow, he is on a complete power trip!
[16:09]<@FusRoDah> Yeah, but that's BC_Programming he's our friend. You take the rough with the smooth
[16:09]<@BC_Programming> lol
[16:09]<+camerongray> lol, meaning LD
[16:09]<+camerongray> LC*
[16:13]<@BC_Programming> I do love that though... trying to tell me how Win8 works, when I've been using it since it was even publically available and reporting bugs under NDA :P
[16:13]<@BC_Programming> since before*
[16:15]<+camerongray> yeah!
[16:15]<+camerongray> What was he saying?
[16:15]<@BC_Programming> Quantos? I thought you were there
[16:15]<+camerongray> not that I remember
[16:15]<@BC_Programming> Somebody was asking for recommendations on OS
[16:16]<@BC_Programming> and Quantos said something like "whatever you do, don't use windows 8, because then you can never remove it, since it locks itself into your hardware"
[16:17]<@BC_Programming> Which is partially correct- but only for the windows 8 RT Version for ARM tablets. Not Desktops or Laptops, pointed that out
[16:17]<+camerongray> ahh yeah
[16:17]<@BC_Programming> "one of my friends got a laptop with windows 8 and he cannot rollback"
[16:18]<@BC_Programming> that's some stellar evidence right there
[16:18]<+camerongray> lol
[16:18]<+camerongray> I'm not sure how I feel about him, has always been nice, friends with him on FB.etc but then he sent that PM
[16:18]<@BC_Programming> I've noticed they like to end convos with "believe what you want" without actually changing their stance or admitting they were wrong about anything
[16:19]<+camerongray> yeah
[16:19]<+camerongray> Did you see what DB said earlier about SSDs?
[16:19]<@BC_Programming> no but I probably don't want to
[16:19]<@BC_Programming> heh
[16:19]<@BC_Programming> he did say malware bytes checks for malware and not viruses, even though the latter is the former
[16:20]<+camerongray> [17:48:18] <db100547> ChickenNBeer: ssd's should only be used for the op-system
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> well actually he said "virus's" but then again he's not known for is stellar punctuation
[16:20]<+camerongray> [17:49:42] <db100547> in fact used for data files , programs , not part of the os , they could slower .
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> The former is reasonable advice... but the latter is plain wrong
[16:20]<+camerongray> [17:53:14] <camerongray> db100547: SSDs do help loading programs, I use mine for programs and OS and store big files on an HDD (Except for my laptop where I can only fit a single SSD)
[16:20]<+camerongray> [17:55:01] <db100547> camerongray: constant change of parmeters used by the program over time , will slow them down . the parameter files are the cause, those used by the program . .
[16:20]<+camerongray> [17:55:45] <camerongray> db100547: I've never seen that, Can't be that big a problem since many machines only have SSDs
[16:20]<+camerongray> [17:56:25] <db100547> camerongray: upto you,
[16:20]<+camerongray> [17:56:46] <camerongray> Do you happen to have an article about it, would be interesting to read
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> WTF did he just make up words there?
[16:21]<+camerongray> Then silence
[16:21]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: I think so!
[16:21]<@BC_Programming> "constant change of parameters used by programs over time"
[16:21]<@BC_Programming> You can't just chain words together to form a sentence like that, it has to make sense
[16:21]<+camerongray> lol!
[16:22]<@BC_Programming> "the parameter files are the cause" WTF are parameter files?
[16:22]<+camerongray> yeah
[16:22]<@BC_Programming> I bet the parameter files are used by the reserved windows workspace
[16:22]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[16:22]<+camerongray> It makes no sense
[16:22]<+camerongray> I mean, look at laptops, almost all SSD laptops only have an SSD
[16:22]<@BC_Programming> Yeah more I see, more I think he's a poser
[16:23]<+camerongray> And many porgrams go funny when you try to install them on a drive other than C:
[16:23]<+camerongray> I think he is!
[16:24]<+camerongray> Like he made a point, I went against it but since he wanted to look as though he's correct he starts making up stuff and digs himself into a deeper hole
[16:25]<@BC_Programming> thing is it works most of the time
[16:25]<@BC_Programming> because he's surrounded by other posers
[16:25]<+camerongray> Yeah, that's how he got to be an op
[16:25]<@BC_Programming> and they don't want to go "hey, hold on, what's a parameter file?"
[16:25]<@BC_Programming> because then everybody will be like "hah, really? everybody KNOWs what a parameter file is"
[16:26]<+camerongray> yeah, they just believe him
[16:26]<+camerongray> And they hate us becuase we confront them
[16:26]<@BC_Programming> then gat_man will talk about how he prefers the windows XP parameter file format
[16:26]<+camerongray> lol!
[16:27]<@BC_Programming> that annoys me :/ it's fine to have a preference but if you are going to share it in that environment, at least back it up with something concrete
[16:27]<+camerongray> Yeah
[16:27]<+camerongray> I'd love to know if db even has an SSD
[16:27]<+camerongray> In his PC that was probably one of the best in 2010
[16:27]<@BC_Programming> no doubt if you ask
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[16:27]<@BC_Programming> he'd say he has them in all the thousands of PCs he manages
[16:27]<+camerongray> yeah
[16:28]<+camerongray> Even his profile shows the poser side of things
[16:28]<+camerongray> "Too many certifications to list"
[16:30]<@BC_Programming> yep
[16:30]<@FusRoDah> The problem with them is there so used to being treated as 'experts' they honestly believe it without backing it up with knowledge. They don't train they don't stay on top of current IT skills or knowledge and feel it's there given right to tell you that they are right and you are wrong because the website connected is a VERY big site for computer help and if there a mod on lets be fair like
[16:30]<@FusRoDah> 0.5% of the name traffic then they must be worth something.
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[16:31]<+camerongray> Yeah
[16:32]<+camerongray> I do wonder if they believe it
[16:32]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: you hit the nail on the head there
[16:32]<@BC_Programming> They aren't used to actually backing up their advice with evidence
[16:33]<+camerongray> I think what DB was getting at was what used to be the case with SSDs where using them heavily could wear them out - I remember people used to advise against them in database servers for that reason
[16:33]<@BC_Programming> so it's always anecdotal... that's probably why they all seem to recommend registry cleaners *shudders*
[16:33]<+camerongray> But nowadays with better technology and things like TRIM, that issue is no longer the case
[16:33]<@BC_Programming> you know we could entrap him
[16:34]<@BC_Programming> Somehow get in a position to get him to say whether he has, say, an MVP Award... when given the choice knowing the personality type they will jump at yes
[16:34]<@BC_Programming> ... meanwhile, all MVP's are available publically, and we know where he is and also know his name so...
[16:35]<@BC_Programming> See what nonsense he comes out with there
[16:36]<@BC_Programming> him:"oh mine is hidden" me:"You cannot hide your profile to other MVPs." him: *thinking: crap*
[16:36]<+camerongray> lol
[16:36]<+camerongray> You should totally do that
[16:36]<+camerongray> And wouldn't it be illegal or something to pretend you are?
[16:36]<@BC_Programming> I don't like to pull that out except as a Joke, if I have to qualify something I say as "I have such and such award" that's not really evidence that it's right
[16:37]<+camerongray> Nah, but you should try to trap him
[16:37]<@BC_Programming> No I don't think so.... could cause legal hot water to use the MVP logo but I doubt he has a website
[16:37]<+camerongray> Ahh
[16:37]<+camerongray> Join as your alt and say you saw someone described as an MVP and what does it mean
[16:37]<@BC_Programming> would have to wait for the good opportunity
[16:38]<@BC_Programming> eg. how we get software->MSDN through MVP-> "oh me too" " oh really..."
[16:38]<+camerongray> He'll probably give a very bad explanation of "It means you are good with MS stuff" then ask "Oh, so do you have one then"
[16:38]<@Mulreay> Or one of them is sat in here now and this hole thing was for nothing
[16:39]<@Mulreay> whole*
[16:39]<@BC_Programming> hmm possible
[16:40]<@Mulreay> Had an idea
[16:41]<+camerongray> ooh
[16:41]<@Mulreay> Will take me 20mins to set up
[16:41]<+camerongray> \i'm listening :P
[16:42]<@BC_Programming> hmm well this is interesting...
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[16:51]<@Mulreay> It's not that good.. was just a thought
[16:52]<@BC_Programming> you tried
[16:53]<@Mulreay> I invited you both to a new channel for a weird idea I had camerongray BC_Programming
[16:54]<@BC_Programming> +m? neat
[16:57]<@Mulreay> Anyway
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[17:14]<@BC_Programming> oh wow... I forgot how much work it was to tame BASS.NET for BASeBlocks
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Session Start: Sun Jun 02 18:59:38 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [18:59] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[18:59] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[18:59]<+Craig> Hmmm now how to test it...
[19:00]<+Craig> My max network speed theoretically would be 128MB/s on a gigabit lan...?
[19:00]<+Craig> ... conundrum.
[19:01]<@BC_Programming> probably less because of routing overhead
[19:01]<+Craig> hahahaha touche'
[19:02]<@BC_Programming> hmm can't go near my village on Minecraft
[19:02]<+Craig> No?
[19:02]<@BC_Programming> they gave villagers sound and they are too funny
[19:03]<+Craig> Hahahha yeah I saw those on a youtube vid. :P
[19:03]<@BC_Programming> heh 50+ villagers all making sound...
[19:03]<+Craig> Eeeep
[19:04]<+Craig> Well, atleast the bonding looks amazing :p
[19:04]<@BC_Programming> I like them but it'll take a while before they aren't hilarious
[19:04]<+Craig> Even if I cannot use it. :P
[19:04]<@BC_Programming> heh
[19:04]<+Craig> hahahahah tooo true. :P
[19:08]<+Craig> According to the speed test I just did locally using their mini tool, my speed is 226.4 over 290.4
[19:08]<+Craig> but thats in Mbpx
[19:08]<+Craig> but thats in Mbps
[19:14]<@BC_Programming> hmm BASeBlock's sound stuff is more complex than I remember
[19:15]<@BC_Programming> before it initializes the library it even makes sure the proper version (32-bit or 64-bit) of the sound library's native is in the folder :D
[19:15]<+Craig> Cool,
[19:15]<@BC_Programming> I forgot about that... I guess that just shows how smoothly it works
[19:15]<+Craig> :P
[19:15]<@BC_Programming> Of course now that complicates my attempt to write a blog post about it
[19:16]<@BC_Programming> I have like a dozen posts drafted but unfinished :/
[19:19]<+Craig> Yeah I think my computer tops out, so now my computer is the slow part... :(
[19:19]<+Craig> Hmmmm, I wonder about it to me
[19:21]<+Craig> Do you remember the show Thunderbirds?
[19:21]<@BC_Programming> no idea what that is
[19:22]<+Craig> Really?!
[19:22]<+Craig> Is there anyone else here?
[19:22]<+Craig> :P
[19:22]<@BC_Programming> I've heard of thundercats
[19:22]<+Craig> Camerongray, Mulreay? It was made in the UK, do you know it?
[19:23]<+Craig> hahahaha
[19:23]<@BC_Programming> :P
[19:23]<+Craig> I could share you a sync code for it.
[19:24]<@BC_Programming> I don't even know what it is
[19:24]<@BC_Programming> and what's a sync code... are you trying to confuse me on purpose? :P
[19:25]<+Craig> Labs.bittorrent.com/expiriments/sync
[19:25]<+Craig> :)
[19:27]<+Craig> Alright, there is a good test, to me there was no slow down on transfer, but from me, with two going, there was a small slowdown.
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[19:56]<jamer> hello
[20:03]<+Craig> Hey Jamer
[20:04]<jamer> so im on my new laptop
[20:04]<Erika> and?
[20:04]<jamer> it works great ... especially for a laptop i bought for 50 dollars
[20:05]<Erika> ok?
[20:05]<@BC_Programming> jamer: cool
[20:08]<+Craig> You're starting to sound like Cameron :P
[20:08]<+Craig> Or some other friends I have :P
[20:08]<jamer> :P
[20:08]<jamer> camerongray kinda rubs off on you
[20:10]<+Craig> Woot, a working Bonded nic! woot.
[20:10]<jamer> lol
[20:11]<+Craig> ... Dang it, I just realized that the traffic has to go through a single gigabit to my router, then through the same to my computer. so its completely redundant...
[20:11]<+Craig> :(
[20:11]<jamer> XD
[20:11]<+Craig> since its going through a switch as well.
[20:11]<@BC_Programming> uh yeah that's sort of what I was getting at before
[20:11]<+Craig> Hmmm I wonder if I could setup bonding on my router?
[20:11]<+Craig> I have extra ports on my switch.
[20:13]<+Craig> ... I need a bigger swtich...
[20:13]<+Craig> switch*

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Session Start: Sun Jun 02 21:18:04 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [21:18] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[21:19]<+Craig> Woot, Server/Media center Processor Swap finished. Six core in Ubuntu server now, and the dual core in the media center.
[21:19]<jamer> XD
[21:19]<+Craig> Man that is A LOT of work. :S
[21:20]<+Craig> The main server is about 60Lbs now.
[21:20]<+Craig> With its 6 drives, steel case, and all the adaptions in it.
[21:20]<+Craig> My main computer has three drives and the video card, along with capture card, and probably weighs about 50-55Lbs.
[21:21]<jamer> lol
[21:21]<Erika> anyone wanna hear about my computer?
[21:21]<Erika> i built it
[21:21]<+Craig> Sure
[21:21]<+Craig> Whats in it
[21:23]<Erika> 400 watt power supply, g4s300-b microatx server motherboard, intel pentium 4 2.60 ghz processer, 1.25gb of ram, 300 or more (cant remember) gb hdd (from a laptop) and my new addition is a key that when turned enables or disables the on/off button
[21:24]<jamer> sounds like my 3rd desktop build
[21:25]<Erika> windows xp, sp3 pro
[21:25]<Erika> :p
[21:26]<jamer> windows 7 here on this laptop
[21:26]<jamer> core duo 1.6 ghz 4 gb ram 320 gb hard drive
[21:27]<+Craig> Heh, that all sounds like my first one. :P
[21:27]<+Craig> This is my 10th computer, in 16 years
[21:28]<Erika> mines prolly 320
[21:28]<Erika> gb
[21:29]<jamer> my former desktop had a 250 watt psu with a geforce 8400 gs athlon 64 x2 4200+ 2 gb ram and the same hard drive i have in my laptop
[21:30]<Erika> brb
[21:31]<jamer> i took away from gpu power added ram cpu is about the same and i added mobility
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[21:34]<jamer> so craig i get a rating of 3.1 on windows score
[21:34]<+Craig> Cool,
[21:34]<+Craig> Want to know my score?
[21:35]<jamer> sure
[21:35]<@BC_Programming> I get 5.9
[21:35]<+Craig> 7.7
[21:35]<@BC_Programming> laptop get's 3.9
[21:35]<+Craig> My laptop is a 5.9
[21:35]<jamer> the 3.1 is from my gpu
[21:36]<jamer> the rest is 4.1 and up
[21:36]<+Craig> Mine is my video card. :P
[21:37]<+Craig> 8.1TB on my server, I am so happy. :)
[21:39]<jamer> i have the 90 watt charger also for my system XD
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[22:35]<Zuwer> That's sad, been using my laptop so much I am less accurate at typing with my desktop keyboard. D:
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[22:37]<jamer> the thing i miss most is a light for my keys
[22:38]<Zuwer> That's what I like about my desktop keyboard, the backlight, even though turning on a light works too. :x
[22:40]<Zuwer> I only use my laptop when I want to be lazy and lie down, it is too low spec for anything useful. :/
[22:41]<jamer> eh ... mines a core duo
[22:42]<Zuwer> I wouldn't complain with that, mine is some tiny little AMD thing.
[22:43]<jamer> amd turion or someting like that
[22:44]<Zuwer> E1-1200... I'd guess somewhere near the very bottom, it was just a cheap-o laptop, didn't need anything with much power behind it, that's what the desktop is for.
[22:44]<jamer> my cpu fan is going bad .... ill probably replace it when i get a core 2 duo
[22:44]<@BC_Programming> I am so pissed off right now it's beyond imagining
[22:45]<jamer> BC_Programming probably less than i was earlier
[22:46]<jamer> hell why dont i just buy it with my battery and replace it now XD
[22:48]<Zuwer> Nah.. Just wait for it to die completely, buy a new one and complain because you have to wait for it to ship. :x
[22:49]<jamer> its way cheaper than my thinkpad's fan
[22:51]<jamer> the fan is 5 bucks
[22:52]<Zuwer> Not exactly expensive. :s
[22:52]<jamer> my thinkpad's fan was 25
[22:55]<Zuwer> That's pretty much what I paid for the 120mm exhaust fan on my desktop. :o
[22:55]<jamer> XD
[22:56]<Zuwer> Can't imagine a laptop's CPU fan being all that large really.
[22:58]<jamer> its because of the fact that the heatsink assembly doesnt come off the cpu fan
[22:59]<Zuwer> That explains it, t'is why I don't really like laptops. :s
[23:00]<+Craig> Whats wrong BC?
[23:05]<@BC_Programming> coding issues
[23:05]<+Craig> Ahhh that sucks,
[23:05]<+Craig> Bugs? or major error?
[23:05]<@BC_Programming> Think I mostly sussed it though
[23:06]<@BC_Programming> GP wasn't saving/loading some data properly
[23:06]<@BC_Programming> I'd feel bad for the people using dev builds since they'll probably lose any and all subclaims but hey that's why they are dev builds
[23:06]<+Craig> What is this in
[23:06]<+Craig> ?
[23:07]<@BC_Programming> how do you mean?
[23:08]<+Craig> What program are you checking?
[23:08]<@BC_Programming> http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-mods/grief-prevention/
[23:09]<+Craig> Ahhhh
[23:09]<+Craig> :P should have known
[23:09]<@BC_Programming> yeah people actually use this one unlike pretty much all the stuff I've written heh
[23:09]<+Craig> Why is that?
[23:09]<jamer> so ill need two dollars more for both the battery and fan
[23:10]<@BC_Programming> what do you mean Craig
[23:10]<+Craig> Why is it unlike pretty much everything you've written?
[23:10]<Zuwer> jamer: I'd throw the 2 dollar coin sitting next to me, but I don't think I can throw that far.
[23:10]<@BC_Programming> Because people use it...
[23:10]<+Craig> Oh :P
[23:11]<+Craig> Jamer and Zuwer, you guys need part time jobs so that you can get better components. :P
[23:11]<+Craig> Hey BC, what minecraft block would you think makes the best ship steering wheel?
[23:12]<@BC_Programming> what kind of ship? water?
[23:12]<+Craig> Yeah
[23:12]<Zuwer> Craig: I work 2 days a week at the moment, saving up to move to the city where there is jobs. I'd like to think my desktop has alright components though. :x
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[23:12]<+Craig> Ah :P
[23:12]<@BC_Programming> Craig oh actually I have an idea let me build it quickly hard to explain
[23:12]<+Craig> ok
[23:13]<+Craig> No worries Zuwer, I was just buggin ya,
[23:13]<@BC_Programming> they really need to make the new launcher a lot faster :P
[23:15]<Zuwer> Heh, fair enough, I tend to waste money I save up on things I don't need, hence the tablet and laptop. x:
[23:16]<@BC_Programming> Craig: Ender Portal frame with a eye of ender in it?
[23:17]<+Craig> Hehe, no, that is horizontal, I need vertical. Thanks though :0
[23:17]<+Craig> :)
[23:17]<@BC_Programming> item frame with a cobweb
[23:18] * Zuwer should install MC again and see what new items there are.
[23:21]<jamer> i could here
[23:24]<jamer> ironically i think i can type in the dark
[23:25]<jamer> without knowing or looking at the keys
[23:25]<jamer> its bad ... ive had this laptop for less than a day and yet i can do this
[23:26]<@BC_Programming> do what
[23:26]<jamer> type without looking at this keyboard
[23:28]<Zuwer> You should be able to do it on any QWERTY keyboard, only problem is accuracy when changing keyboards due to the layout.
[23:28]<jamer> btw Craig i would get a part time job if i could
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[23:40]<jamer> Whats the newest release of mc
[23:42]<Zuwer> Guessing 1.5.2, just installed it again now.
[23:42]<jamer> Ok
[23:44]<jamer> Rendering for me on far is halfway decent fps
[23:45]<Zuwer> Last time I played MC the FPS was showing 350, now it is at 140 on the same settings. :s
[23:47]<jamer> Im on a intel gpu also
[23:48]<Zuwer> That's not bad then.
[23:49]<jamer> 4 gb ram
[23:51]<jamer> Core duo
[23:51]<Zuwer> What FPS on that?
[23:52]<jamer> 30-40
[23:53]<Zuwer> Can't complain with that really.
[23:54]<jamer> Nah