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[01:08]<iSyntax> hello. can u pipe the output of commands in python like i can in terminal?
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[04:43]<iSyntax> ok pewterhope is being naive again. xeon vs i7. why is one so much better for servers and why is i7 better for home users
[04:45]<@BC_Programming> That's a good question, I'll give you an answer nobody on Computerhope would give you...
[04:45]<@BC_Programming> "I don't know" :)
[04:45]<iSyntax> touche
[04:47]<@BC_Programming> I think maybe they have different amounts of cache or something to that effect, can't seem to find anything concrete on them
[04:48]<iSyntax> me neither
[04:48]<iSyntax> or perhaps the ability to combine CPUs and enable multi thread reading?
[04:48]<@BC_Programming> Found this http://superuser.com/questions/122914/what-is-the-difference-between-an-intel-i7-and-a-xeon-quad-core-processor
[04:49]<@BC_Programming> basically they are the same but Xeons are more rigorously tested and run at lower voltages and support being used in multi-socket Mobos
[04:49]<iSyntax> what is the tradeoff of lower voltages
[04:49]<@BC_Programming> runs cooler I think
[04:50]<iSyntax> and multi socket meaning they can combine mulitple xeons correct?
[04:50]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[04:50]<iSyntax> of course
[04:50]<@BC_Programming> as in multiple xeon chips on the same motherboard, which i7's don't support
[04:50]<iSyntax> that is the answer
[04:50]<iSyntax> u can combine multiple xeons to read more threads at once then i7
[04:51]<iSyntax> which is why its better for servers
[04:51]<iSyntax> yay nay?
[04:51]<@BC_Programming> something like that
[04:51]<iSyntax> another question. why not run the i7s at the same voltage as the xeon what about the i7 makes it run ata higher voltage
[04:51]<@BC_Programming> eg you can g et a server thing with multiple sockets, start out with one xeon
[04:51]<@BC_Programming> then upgrade it later and practically double it's processor capability
[04:51]<iSyntax> mmhmm
[04:52]<iSyntax> or haevv a personal supercomputer wiht say 4 6core xeons
[04:52]<@BC_Programming> from what I've read the i7 uses more voltage simply because they don't require lower voltage for reliability and temp
[04:52]<@BC_Programming> with Server blades you can't stick a massive heatsink in there usually, whereas with a consumer machine you can put in behemoths
[04:52]<@BC_Programming> That's just a guess though
[04:53]<iSyntax> lol yeah that does make sense
[04:54]<@BC_Programming> yeah they do have MUCH bigger L1,L2, and L3 cache's too it seems
[04:54]<@BC_Programming> like 10 times the size of most consumer processors
[04:55]<iSyntax> idk what caches r. im a learner of computers. allow google to enlighten me once moment please
[04:56]<@BC_Programming> memory that is directly on the processor pretty much, much faster to access than System Memory
[04:57]<@BC_Programming> there is some logic that tries to predict what the processor will want next and plonk it into the cache before the processor actually needs it which can make things really fast
[04:57]<iSyntax> almost like macs flash storage
[04:58]<iSyntax> uses what is used alot in the flash storage and put unused data on the HDD
[04:58]<iSyntax> interesting
[04:58]<iSyntax> system memory being the HDD?
[04:59]<@BC_Programming> no
[04:59]<@BC_Programming> System memory being System Memory as in RAM
[05:01]<iSyntax> oh
[05:02]<iSyntax> so the static memory in the cache is even faster then the dynamic memory in the RAM which is faster then the storage avail on the HDD
[05:02]<iSyntax> interesting
[07:10]<+camerongray> lol @ the Xeon thing
[07:10]<+camerongray> And the other one "We don't do phones here"
[07:11]<+camerongray> They seem to take rules literally! Fine helping people play Angry Birds is daft but saying "You should find a screen on eBay pretty cheap and there should be installation videos on YouTube" isn't hard
[07:13]<@BC_Programming> go ahead and try to find an example of one of them literally saying "I don't know"
[07:13]<@BC_Programming> I doubt it exists
[07:13]<+camerongray> Yep!
[07:13]<+camerongray> Actually, they say it all the time!
[07:13]<+camerongray> "Use the forum"
[07:13]<+camerongray> or "We don't do that here"
[07:13]<@BC_Programming> yeah but I mean literally :P
[07:13]<+camerongray> Yesterday a person asked about a mac upgrade "I don't do macs"
[07:13]<@BC_Programming> that's their special 'code' for "I don't know but refuse to admit it"
[07:14]<+camerongray> For all he knew it could have been RAM or HDD which is the same as any other laptop!
[07:15]<+camerongray> iSyntax: And to answer your question - Xeons are generally tested a bit harder so are a bit more reliable, they also use ECC memory which is a bit more reliable as it can correct memory corruption (But costs a lot more) and Xeons can be used in mutiprocessor systems which i7s cant
[07:15]<+camerongray> Unless you need that then the i7 would be a better choice! i7s also allow overclocking
[07:16]<@BC_Programming> We don't do that there
[07:16] * @BC_Programming puffs up
[07:16] * @BC_Programming set's mode +h on BC_Programming
[07:16]<@BC_Programming> I WARN YOU
[07:16]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[07:16]<@BC_Programming> lol
[07:16]<+camerongray> We should get a bot from jacky, when they do that it yells "patio puffs up"
[07:17]<+camerongray> And put it on a remote server so the don't know who did it
[07:17]<@BC_Programming> that w ould be brilliant
[07:17]<@BC_Programming> or just "everybody look out- <nick> is puffing his chest!"
[07:17]<+camerongray> YES!
[07:18]<+camerongray> I remember last week someone mentioned what parts they should get for a home server, db is instantly "Xeons are the bets"
[07:18]<+camerongray> best*
[07:19]<+camerongray> Because Xeons that cost over ?1000 that require super high end motherboards, loud coolers and fancy RAM are ideal for home use!
[07:19]<@BC_Programming> lol
[07:19]<@BC_Programming> gat_man was babbling in this channel before... tried to do some of the same stuff
[07:19]<@BC_Programming> I thought it was hilarious
[07:20]<+camerongray> Yeah!
[07:20]<+camerongray> I was mad I missed it
[07:21]<@BC_Programming> I couldn't understand half of what they were saying
[07:21]<@BC_Programming> "I got 4 mobo's tucked away so what IU am 60 now should see me out of this life "
[07:21]<@BC_Programming> I mean what does that even mean
[07:21]<+camerongray> yeah!
[07:22]<+camerongray> Then he said "DriverAgent"
[07:22]<@BC_Programming> [23:54]<gat_man> grrr automate , = moronify in my head
[07:22]<@BC_Programming> [23:54]<@BC_Programming> yes, using linux moronifies people. Sure
[07:22]<+camerongray> Because we all know that drivers scanners are the best!
[07:22]<@BC_Programming> haha that was funny he acted like having 'free access' to one of those drivers sites was a credential or something
[07:23]<@BC_Programming> It was hard to get mad or annoyed though, it was clear they were already struggling to type anything coherent to begin with
[07:27]<+camerongray> yeah :P
[07:27]<+camerongray> I'd never recommend a driver site like that :P
[07:28]<+camerongray> If the manufacturer doesn't have drivers, why would they have them!
[07:28]<@BC_Programming> I managed to fix my Virtual machine error :D
[07:28]<@BC_Programming> kept getting a GP Fault in Win87EM.dll
[07:29]<@BC_Programming> I found a TSR program that disables the FPU and used that and now I don't get those errors anymore
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[07:29]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: yes. Only thing I can think of would be if the company went out of business, but personally even in that case I can usually find out what the filename would be and then do an FTP search for that file
[07:30]<+camerongray> Yeah
[07:30]<+camerongray> Anything that says "Scan your computer for driver errors" is usually bad :P
[07:30]<@BC_Programming> oh yeah those programs
[07:30]<@BC_Programming> "Driver Errors"
[07:30]<@BC_Programming> yeah ok
[07:31]<+camerongray> Brilliant!
[07:31]<+camerongray> [14:29:59] <BattleCam> guest_90: you need to try a bootable hard drive health program
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[07:31]<+camerongray> [14:30:12] <guest_90> whats that ?
[07:31]<+camerongray> [14:30:23] <BattleCam> its what I said it was
[07:31]<@BC_Programming> since when is having a sound driver that is a few minor versions older than the latest a "bad" thing
[07:31]<+camerongray> [14:31:06] <BattleCam> actually you need to find a shop to fix it
[07:31]<@BC_Programming> bahaha
[07:31]<@BC_Programming> And they try to say you backpedal...
[07:31]<+camerongray> Normally I don't like when guests are abusive but he deserved being told "his mum sucks cats off"
[07:33]<+camerongray> They don't understand that they need to see the person's ability
[07:33]<+camerongray> Just saying "Run a hard drive test CD" doesn't help
[07:34]<+camerongray> GOLD!
[07:34]<+camerongray> [14:33:18] <lostcoast> guest_48: you can turn of restart in bios and get actual blue screen info it will help allot
[07:34]<+camerongray> [14:33:40] <guest_48> how will i be able to do that?
[07:34]<+camerongray> [14:33:56] <lostcoast> !cmos
[07:34]<+camerongray> This person is getting a BSOD on boot!
[07:34]<@BC_Programming> :/
[07:35]<@BC_Programming> wtf
[07:35]<+camerongray> Oh it worked, I restarted in BIOS and got a blue screen
[07:35]<@BC_Programming> since WHEN did the CMOS setup include the options to disable automatic reboot on a bugcheck
[07:35]<+camerongray> "PhoenixBIOS Setup Utility" is the error
[07:35]<@BC_Programming> lol
[07:35]<@BC_Programming> that's actually even funnier
[07:35]<@BC_Programming> but understandable
[07:35]<+camerongray> I really hope they say that
[07:36]<+camerongray> !!!!
[07:36]<+camerongray> [14:34:31] <lostcoast> its a setting you can change ''restart on error'' or similar
[07:36]<+camerongray> [14:34:55] <guest_48> 1 sec i'll try just now
[07:36]<+camerongray> [14:35:18] <guest_48> okay i'm on setup
[07:36]<+camerongray> [14:35:51] <lostcoast> you need to find it, change it and save the setting while exiting
[07:36]<+camerongray> He thinks it's a BIOS setting
[07:36]<@BC_Programming> sigh
[07:36]<@BC_Programming> I'm trying to make that surprise me
[07:36]<@BC_Programming> I really am
[07:36]<@BC_Programming> but I can't
[07:36]<+camerongray> Play this in the background while watching it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
[07:37]<+camerongray> [14:35:51] <lostcoast> you need to find it, change it and save the setting while exiting
[07:37]<+camerongray> [14:36:59] <guest_48> this is strange, i can't find it
[07:37]<+camerongray> [14:37:07] <guest_37> lostcoast: i need u
[07:37]<+camerongray> [14:37:08] <guest_48> what menu would this be normally under
[07:37]<+camerongray> [14:37:27] <lostcoast> i dont have a bios open to check
[07:37]<+camerongray> Not sure if I should tell him
[07:37]<@BC_Programming> what OS does guest_48 have?
[07:37]<+camerongray> Not sure
[07:38]<+camerongray> Should I do it "lostcoast: FYI that setting isn't in the BIOS, would need to be enabled in safe mode"
[07:38]<@BC_Programming> lol
[07:38]<+camerongray> slick
[07:40]<@BC_Programming> I wanted something more specific but without knowing what OS it is no way to do that
[07:40]<+camerongray> lol
[07:40]<@BC_Programming> of course if it's XP and they are BSOD'ing at bootup they are a bit borked since I don't think you can toggle that option then
[07:40]<+camerongray> Don't you know, his OS is Microsoft
[07:40]<@BC_Programming> heheh
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[07:49]<+camerongray> Hey ChanbotVII
[07:49]<+camerongray> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:49]<@BC_Programming> lol
[07:49]<+camerongray> Hey Calum
[07:49]<+camerongray> We need to rename ChanbotVII xChanbotVII
[07:49]<+camerongray> Oh and hey jacky
[07:50]<+camerongray> Calum: You just missed all the fun in CH
[07:50]<@Calum> hah, but this is the only way the bot gets a welcome!
[07:50]<@Calum> Oh, I did?
[07:50]<+camerongray> Lostcoast was trying to get someone to disable restart on error in the BIOS
[07:50]<@Calum> oh, in the BIOS? Where it toally is?
[07:50]<@Calum> *totally
[07:50]<+camerongray> [14:33:18] <lostcoast> guest_48: you can turn of restart in bios and get actual blue screen info it will help allot
[07:50]<+camerongray> [14:33:40] <guest_48> how will i be able to do that?
[07:50]<+camerongray> [14:33:56] <lostcoast> !cmos
[07:50]<+camerongray> [14:33:57] <Hopebot> To get into CMOS(BIOS) setup reboot the computer, as it starts watch for a prompt saying: press X to enter setup, where X could be the F1, F2, Del, or other key. When you see this message press that key to enter CMOS setup. Additional information about CMOS and CMOS setup can be found at http://www.computerhope.com/help/cmos.htm
[07:50]<+camerongray> [14:34:31] <lostcoast> its a setting you can change ''restart on error'' or similar
[07:50]<+camerongray> [14:34:55] <guest_48> 1 sec i'll try just now
[07:50]<+camerongray> [14:35:18] <guest_48> okay i'm on setup
[07:50]<+camerongray> [14:35:51] <lostcoast> you need to find it, change it and save the setting while exiting
[07:50]<+camerongray> [14:36:59] <guest_48> this is strange, i can't find it
[07:50]<+camerongray> [14:37:07] <guest_37> lostcoast: i need u
[07:50]<@jacky> camerongray: Hello
[07:50]<+camerongray> [14:37:08] <guest_48> what menu would this be normally under
[07:50]<+camerongray> [14:37:27] <lostcoast> i dont have a bios open to check
[07:50]<@jacky> Calum: Hello
[07:50]<@Calum> hey jacky
[07:51]<@Calum> would it be under the "not in the BIOS" menu by any chance?
[07:51]<@BC_Programming> I appeared and pasted a link to actual instructions that aren't made up nonsense and then /parted immediately
[07:51]<@Calum> heh
[07:51]<+camerongray> lol yeah
[07:51]<+camerongray> I imagined it like PC driving past, throwing something in the window and continuing on
[07:55]<+camerongray> s/PC/BC
[07:55]<@BC_Programming> you tried
[07:55]<@jacky> like a drive-by shooting?
[07:55]<+camerongray> lol
[07:55]<@jacky> >g<
[07:56]<@BC_Programming> I don't think the targets were as coherent as uneducated gangsters
[07:56]<@Calum> I'm starting to think that perhaps downloading everything on TechNet that I might find useful at some point may not be a viable alternative to resubscribing
[07:56]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[07:57]<@Calum> I tried to do it last year but my connection wasn't that fast and I was less organised
[07:57]<+camerongray> lol
[07:57]<@Calum> this year, I have a month to go, and a 60Mb line...however I now have 350GB and rising of downloads, and I'm not sure this is such a good plan any more
[07:58]<@Calum> mainly because I don't want to keep it in just one place so I need to back it up, otherwise a HDD failure means I've lost it all...but where to back it up to? I need to buy another HDD...then I may as well have re-subbed
[07:59]<+camerongray> True
[07:59]<+camerongray> Then again, another HDD could be used for other stuff too
[07:59]<@Calum> I already have a 2TB external where all my stuff is stored, and backed up online, and my gf has a 500GB which has backups of important things
[08:00]<@Calum> I can't see what need I would have for another 500GB drive, or even a 1TB, apart from solely backing up TechNet stuff
[08:00]<@Calum> hmm
[08:00]<+camerongray> yeah
[08:00]<@BC_Programming> TechNet < MSDN :P
[08:00]<@Calum> I almost wish I hadn't sold all my HDDs when the prices rose astronomically, but then again I did make an obscene profit lol
[08:00]<+camerongray> I remember that
[08:01]<@Calum> how much is MSDN though?
[08:01]<@Calum> yeah I bought my 1TBs at like ?25 a drive, sold at ?60
[08:01]<@Calum> sold a 2TB for ?80 or something ridiculous
[08:01]<@Calum> wow, MSDN is expensive
[08:01]<+camerongray> How did you get the drives for that!
[08:01]<@BC_Programming> I got it for free
[08:02]<@Calum> camerongray: you should ask, where was I working at the time ;)
[08:02]<+camerongray> Ahh :P
[08:02]<@Calum> BC_Programming: well, good for you! hehe
[08:02]<@BC_Programming> MVP's get it for free :D
[08:03]<@Calum> camerongray: they were just b grade drives, which I hadn't bought with the intention of selling them on, I bought them because I was using them. I had 4 1TB and 2 2T I think
[08:03]<@Calum> now I just have a single 2TB
[08:03]<+camerongray> Ahh!
[08:03]<+camerongray> I have 1tb in my desktop and 2x 1tb in RAID 1 in my server
[08:04]<@Calum> I did buy a few after the prices rose, but they were from other members selling them cheap because they were unaware of the prices rising, so I flogged those on ebay
[08:04]<@Calum> I would like to point out that they were on as auctions,s o I didn't take advantage of people by setting high prices, they did that for themselves
[08:05]<+camerongray> lol
[08:05]<+camerongray> I was like that with my Nexus 4 bumper, got it, didn't like it so sold it for what it cost me
[08:06]<@Calum> for quite some time after launch, CeX were paying significantly higher than retail for Nexus 4s...I think they bought for ?50 or ?60 above RRP
[08:06]<@Calum> that would've been a nice earner if you were lucky enough to get in on one
[08:07]<+camerongray> yeah
[08:08]<@Calum> they pay crazy prices for some things and peanuts for others, it's odd
[08:08]<+camerongray> yeah
[08:08]<@Calum> they offered me something crazy like ?3 for my SLC SSDs
[08:08]<+camerongray> wow!
[08:08]<@BC_Programming> haha https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6757538/which_god.jpg
[08:09]<@Calum> hah
[08:09]<+camerongray> I sold my Nokia 5800 for like ?90, good since I wanted a Galaxy Nexus at launch
[08:09]<+camerongray> lol!
[08:10]<+camerongray> On the other hand, Mazuma mobile are offering ?85 for my Nexus 4!
[08:10]<@Calum> not bad at all. They bought my mum's really old Samsung Wave for ?23, I was expecting about ?10 going by ebay pricing. They did take it as unlocked for some reason though even though I told them it was locked to VIrgin
[08:10]<@Calum> hah, they offered me ?20 for my Desire Z
[08:10]<+camerongray> lol
[08:10]<@Calum> CeX pay ?75, highest elsewhere has been about ?30
[08:10]<+camerongray> WOW!
[08:11]<+camerongray> Looking at my Dad's san francisco
[08:11]<+camerongray> "Unfortunately, this handset/device has no reuse value and we are unable to accept it."
[08:11]<@Calum> wow really?
[08:11]<@Calum> crazy
[08:11]<+camerongray> Yeah, still works fine
[08:11]<+camerongray> My friend has one and uses it as his main phone, says it works fine
[08:11]<+camerongray> And my other friend has one as his "Going to a club" phone :P
[08:11]<@Calum> yeah they're not bad, especially with a custom ROM
[08:12]<+camerongray> yeah right, ?25 for my mum's Desire S :P
[08:12]<@Calum> wow that just clicked, they're only offering ?10 more for a near-flagship d
[08:12]<@Calum> blah stupid keyboard
[08:12]<@Calum> wow that just clicked, they're only offering ?10 more for a near-flagship device than for a mid-high end from 2010
[08:13]<@Calum> oh, reading fail, that was Mazuma not CeX. Ignore me lol
[08:14]<@Calum> I'm slowly getting used to typing on the Optimus now though, think I'll drop the Desire Z in later this week
[08:15]<@Calum> wondering if I might be able to pass it off as an A grade rather than a B.....
[08:16]<+Craig> NO BREAKING STUFF!
[08:16]<+Craig> :P
[08:16]<@BC_Programming> what
[08:16]<+camerongray> Hey Craig
[08:16]<+Craig> How goes it?
[08:16]<+Craig> :P hahahahah
[08:16] * @BC_Programming set's mode +h
[08:16]<@BC_Programming> craig Immma warn you
[08:16]<@BC_Programming> :P
[08:17] * +Craig grabs it and runs, and then repairs new damage and keeps it.
[08:17]<+camerongray> hahaah
[08:17]<@BC_Programming> "oh no he set half-op mode, he means business"
[08:17]<+camerongray> It's a ThinkPad so would be fine :P
[08:17]<@Calum> watch out, we got a badass over here
[08:17]<+camerongray> heheeh
[08:18]<+Craig> :P hahahhah
[08:18] * +Craig still takes it and runs!
[08:19]<@BC_Programming> ever notice they do that in #computerhope, you disagree with them and they set +h and ask you to "reconsider"
[08:19]<@BC_Programming> because you know if they kick or ban you that makes you wrong evidently
[08:19]<@Calum> I haven't had the opportunity to disagree with them yet
[08:20]<@BC_Programming> surely you don't agree that there is a BIOS setting to control BSOD restarts... :P
[08:20]<@Calum> I mean in the channel heh
[08:20]<@BC_Programming> that was in the channel
[08:20]<+Craig> BAHAHAHAHA that would be awesome if there was a control for that, I would set it to off. :P
[08:20]<@Calum> I wasn't there though
[08:21]<@BC_Programming> excuses calum!
[08:21]<@Calum> heh
[08:21]<+camerongray> Calum: You need to join :P
[08:21]<+camerongray> Just sit and watch
[08:22]<+camerongray> They are bound to say something stupid sooner or later
[08:22]<@Calum> I would but I'm multi tasking, much to do today!
[08:23]<@BC_Programming> hey now, don't you know that db runs a multinational corporation and is the CEO of at least 5 Technology companies, and still manages to spend over 12 hours a day on the CH channel?
[08:23]<+camerongray> lol!
[08:23]<@Calum> that just reminds me of a longstanding meme on another forum
[08:23]<@BC_Programming> grepplers
[08:23]<+camerongray> He also uses lots of OCZ PSUs
[08:24]<@BC_Programming> At the same time because he's a badass
[08:24]<+camerongray> Well, has at least 600 of anything that I warn people against (Usually because Calum warned me about them)
[08:24]<@Calum> at least 600?
[08:24]<@Calum> fires?
[08:24]<+camerongray> HAHAHA
[08:24]<@Calum> or faulty systems?
[08:24]<@Calum> I guess there could be a crossover between those actually
[08:24]<@Calum> some of the faulty systems may also be on fire
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[08:26]<+camerongray> Calum: Told you it doesn't take long...
[08:26]<+camerongray> [15:14:56] <guest_72> hi, I want to share a file on a file sever with read access, can anybody advice
[08:26]<+camerongray> [15:21:36] <lostcoast> dropbox.com
[08:26]<@BC_Programming> :/
[08:26]<@Calum> nice....
[08:26]<+Craig> Or apache, if you don't need secure access to it :P
[08:26]<@BC_Programming> I just thought of something evil... come up with real answers and appear and /part... drive-by accurate advice
[08:27]<+Craig> BAHAHAHAHHAHA
[08:27]<+camerongray> lol
[08:27]<+camerongray> Give youself a witty name
[08:27]<+Craig> :P
[08:27]<+Craig> Jimmy answers <- how is that?
[08:27]<@Calum> that sounds like a fantastic idea which I fully endorse
[08:27] * BC_Programming is now known as TheMaskedITTechnician
[08:27]<@TheMaskedITTechnician> there
[08:28]<+camerongray> lol!
[08:28]<+Craig> :P
[08:28] * TheMaskedITTechnician is now known as BC_Programming
[08:28] * BC_Programming is now known as BicycleRepairMan
[08:28]<+camerongray> hehehe
[08:29]<+camerongray> Calum: You should just sit in CH and check in occasionally, what;s fun is to correct an op but don't continue to help
[08:29]<+Craig> Oh man! I just got a new bike last night! Its EPIC! and its my size, its an Extra Large with 29cm tires!
[08:29]<+Craig> Its freaking awesome
[08:29]<@Calum> heh
[08:29]<+camerongray> lol
[08:29]<+camerongray> I have a bike, no idea if it works though :P
[08:29]<+Craig> HHAHAHAHA that would be awesome
[08:29]<+Craig> Nice Cameron
[08:30]<@BicycleRepairMan> when trouble strikes at any time...at any place...he is ready to become... Bicycle Repair Man!
[08:30]<@BicycleRepairMan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxfzm9dfqBw
[08:30]<@BicycleRepairMan> Behold my powers
[08:31]<+camerongray> lol
[08:31]<+camerongray> I really should go to the shop, but the nearby one is closed on Sunday so I'd have to go to the far away one
[08:31] * BicycleRepairMan is now known as BC_Programming
[08:31]<+camerongray> I could take the bike, BC could fix it :P
[08:31]<@BC_Programming> not anymore, I can only transform once a day
[08:31]<+Craig> Bahahahha
[08:33] * BC_Programming is now known as RunAroundWithScissorsPig
[08:33]<@RunAroundWithScissorsPig> remember to always run with scissors
[08:33]<+camerongray> lol
[08:33] * RunAroundWithScissorsPig is now known as BC_Programming
[08:33]<@BC_Programming> ok I'll stop now lol
[08:36]<@BC_Programming> hmm I need to think of a reasonably simple C# class to write that I can wax about in a blog post
[08:38]<@BC_Programming> only thing I can think of is some sort of Tree<T> generic class
[08:40]<@BC_Programming> I do like this 'complaint' apparently somebody was directly editing the database and couldn't understand why GriefPrevention wasn't honoring the changes
[08:40]<@BC_Programming> probably because if it constantly queries the database it's going to be as slow as heck
[08:48]<+Tux2> lol, right?
[08:50]<@Calum> wow, thought I just bricked my phone, but evidently not. That's a relief
[08:50]<+Craig> ... Now my site, cannot access my database... Seriously? Nothing changed, it was working a day ago!
[08:52]<+Craig> The only error I get is WordPress database error Duplicate entry '263' for key 'PRIMARY' for query INSERT INTO configuration
[08:53]<@BC_Programming> at least you get an error
[08:53]<@BC_Programming> sometimes my blog just gives a blank page inexplicably
[08:53]<+Craig> Thats in the logs, the only error on the webpage is "Error establishing a database connection"
[08:53]<@BC_Programming> o
[08:54]<@BC_Programming> do you have a plugin called WP_Online_Store?
[08:54]<+Tux2> Craig: sounds like you need to delete the entry with the primary key of 263 in one of the tables
[08:54]<+Craig> Think so?
[08:54]<+Craig> Hmmm, where would I find that
[08:54]<@BC_Programming> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/error-duplicate-entry-263-for-key-primary-1
[08:55]<@BC_Programming> apparently it's from WP_Online_Store, and for some reason it get's to thinking it's not setup and tries to configure the tables for initial use, but they already exist
[08:58]<+Craig> I wonder what table that is in. Cause I looked in Configuration, and I cannot see it
[09:00]<@BC_Programming> ooh subtle errors what fun
[09:00]<@BC_Programming> Source.getString(NodePath + " .Claims.Behaviour","None") Find the typo!
[09:05]<+Craig> I deleted the folder that contains that, and it didn't fix that... I will check the logs.
[09:05]<@BC_Programming> the folder that contains that?
[09:05]<+Craig> No the other link, :P
[09:05]<+Craig> sorry
[09:13]<+Craig> Hahahaha, Nice, I remade the config file, and all is well. :)
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[09:13]<+Craig> ... nvm... only the admin page is...
[09:16]<+Craig> Hmmm, so its the http that is not working,
[09:16]<+Craig> I wonder if I can set it to redirect to HTTPS?
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[09:57] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Calum
[09:57]<@Calum> you know what sucks? LG PC Suite software
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> what's that? some prepackaged crapware?
[09:59]<@Calum> It's a piece of software that's supposed to let you do system updates on your LG phone, as well as manage pictures, music, that kind of stuff
[09:59]<@Calum> Now, all I wanted to use it for was to install the latest firmware, so I can then root the phone and install non-LG firmware
[09:59]<@Calum> however, it first claimed there was not enough storage space for the upgrade - 16GB blank SD card, 11GB internal storage on the phone free, and 10GB HDD space, is apparently not enough
[10:00]<@Calum> it then stopped seeing the phone entirely, even after removing the software, rebooting, removing all drivers, trying the phone in different modes....
[10:00]<@Calum> so I used their "emergency firmware recovery" utility, which also couldn't see the phone, but then all of a sudden it did, and now it's downloading the firmware and applying it
[10:01]<@Calum> also, PC Suite is 127MB in size, for no apparent reason
[10:01]<@BC_Programming> well until it decides it doesn't see the phone anymore
[10:01]<@Calum> don't say that...it's at 95%
[10:01]<@Calum> if it dies now I will be unhappy
[10:01]<@Calum> the phone is now rebooting, says it's complete
[10:01]<@Calum> we'll see
[10:02]<@Calum> I just find it ridiculous that to apply an update, you have to use their emergency utility, which also by the way stays on top of all other windows and doesn't have a close or minimise button
[10:02]<@BC_Programming> oh I really hate those types of programs
[10:03]<@Calum> there's no need for it to do that
[10:03]<@Calum> ah, it worked, and also changed my phone's wallpaper, how considerate
[10:03]<+camerongray> [16:43:49] <db100547> guest_72: ftp servers give access to those who create them , and others as defined . open access to all is not generally permitted , and is controlled by the ftpserver and the provider/owner , OPen Acessto all is not a good idea., but , it can be allowed , just costs .money .
[10:03]<+camerongray> What?!?! - Anonymous FTP costs money
[10:04]<michel> super bored
[10:04]<@Calum> camerongray: did you have to use any of LG's crapware with your Nexus, or did it just work?
[10:05]<+camerongray> Just worked :P
[10:05]<+camerongray> Don't think there are any available for it
[10:05]<@Calum> figures
[10:07]<+camerongray> Run command to mount my personal share, works fine
[10:07]<+camerongray> Run the SAME command adapted for the shared share, get permission denied trying to access it
[10:08]<+camerongray> Even more annoyingly, both drives work fine under Windows
[10:09]<@BC_Programming> "Is there a language like C# that doesn't use Garbage collection"
[10:09]<@BC_Programming> what a dumb question
[10:09]<@BC_Programming> if it didn't use a GC it couldn't be like C# could it
[10:10]<+camerongray> lol
[10:10]<+camerongray> Why would you want one!
[10:11]<@BC_Programming> some people are scared of Garbage collection
[10:11]<@BC_Programming> these are the types who's last exposure to it was evidently from beta versions of the early Java JDK
[10:11]<@Calum> wow, JB sure uses more memory than ICS....before I had 400+MB free, now around 250MB
[10:19]<@BC_Programming> this is some class declaration
[10:19]<@BC_Programming> class TreeNode<T,CListType> : ITreeNode<T,CListType> where CListType:IList<ITreeNode<T,CListType>>
[10:27]<michel> super bored
[10:47]<+camerongray> Calum: Lostcoast is being confused again :P
[10:47]<@BC_Programming> what else is new
[10:47]<+camerongray> Guest can't get display on one monitor, both connected to DVI->VGA adapters
[10:47]<+camerongray> He's CONVINCED that one of the ports is DVI-D despite me verifiying they are both DVI-I
[10:48]<@Calum> *rolleyes*
[10:48]<@Calum> does the problem follow the monitor or the port?
[10:48]<+camerongray> port
[10:49]<+camerongray> I tested that despite lostcoast saying it was pointless
[10:49]<@Calum> absolutely positive one isn't DVI-D? lol
[10:49]<+camerongray> Yeah, looked at the connectors
[10:49]<@Calum> is it an MSI card? If so I wouldn't trust anything heh
[10:49]<+camerongray> And it's a 7770 which IIRC has both D
[10:49]<@Calum> seriously though, just sounds like a dead port
[10:49]<+camerongray> Nah, XFX
[10:49]<+camerongray> Both I even
[10:50]<@Calum> assuming no display at all, right from boot? Not just in Windows?
[10:50]<+camerongray> In the end I told him I'll leave it to him
[10:50]<@Calum> fair enough
[10:51]<+camerongray> Oh, but now he wants me back :P
[10:51]<+camerongray> [17:48:39] <lostcoast> you jumped in take it away
[10:51]<+camerongray> [17:48:44] <lostcoast> all your's
[10:51]<+camerongray> Funny thing is... nope!
[10:51]<@Calum> Lostcoast: http://i.imgur.com/xVyoSl.jpg
[10:51]<+camerongray> BAHAH!
[10:52]<+camerongray> You cannot believe the temptation to post that!
[10:52]<@Calum> hehe
[10:52]<+camerongray> [17:51:09] <lostcoast> you have 3 ports either get dvi-d capable monitor or use hdmi..the dvi-i works
[10:52]<+camerongray> [17:51:37] <lostcoast> ok
[10:52]<+camerongray> [17:52:30] <lostcoast> should be no more question about it
[10:52]<+camerongray> So now it's "Buy a new monitor"
[10:53]<@Calum> he really doesn't have any idea what he's doing
[10:54]<@BC_Programming> that much has been clear for a long time :P
[10:54]<@Calum> indeed
[10:54]<@Calum> I would go so far as to say, since he first logged on to the chat, the signs have been there
[10:54]<+camerongray> You need to be here
[10:54]<+camerongray> Now he;s telling them to check their monitor supports digital DVI
[10:55]<@BC_Programming> I thought you confirmed they were DVI-I ports
[10:56]<+camerongray> Yep!
[10:56]<+camerongray> Calum: Just explaining to you so it doesn't look like I've been talking to you behind the scenes
[10:57]<+camerongray> teheehe
[10:57]<@Calum> indeed
[10:57]<@BC_Programming> fill me in!
[10:58]<@Calum> lostcoast appears to have given up
[10:58]<+camerongray> Calum asks if one port is DVI-D, lostcoast instantly says one is
[10:58]<+camerongray> Despite there being no evidence that one is but lots saying they are both DVI-I
[10:58]<@BC_Programming> lol
[10:58]<+camerongray> lol, given up
[11:03]<@BC_Programming> are there USB platter drives that can run directly off USB power
[11:03]<@BC_Programming> I cannot see how
[11:03]<@BC_Programming> what with Drive motors being 12v and USB only providing a bit of 5v
[11:04]<@Calum> there are, usually only 2.5" drives though
[11:04]<+camerongray> Yeah
[11:04]<@Calum> due to USB's current limit which is 500ma I think?
[11:05]<+camerongray> Found something really interesting, my external HDD is a WD Passport 500gb USB3.0, the USB port is actually on the drive's PCB
[11:05]<@Calum> sometimes they use those dual had cables to draw 1a though through 2 USB ports
[11:05]<+camerongray> I expected a SATA drive with a converter board!
[11:05]<@Calum> camerongray: yeah, seen that before, it's really idd
[11:05]<@Calum> *odd
[11:05]<@Calum> annoying, too
[11:05]<+camerongray> Yeah, I wanted to borrow the converter!
[11:06]<@Calum> heh exactly, I did that with an old USB drive but it turned out to be IDE inside
[11:06]<+camerongray> wow!
[11:06]<@Calum> I have a 2.5" enclosure that has IDE and SATA in it though which was nice
[11:06]<@Calum> yeah, I bought that one in about 2006 so it was a bit of a surprise
[11:06]<@Calum> it was only a 250gb drive
[11:06]<+camerongray> I have an adapter out of an old WD drive, it works and is mains powered so can do 3.5 drives but boy is it slow!
[11:07]<@Calum> yeah, I ended up buying something for about ?15 that takes SATA 2.5 and 3.5 drives with a little slot, they stand upright, and it's USB3
[11:07]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah, I need to get one of those
[11:07]<+camerongray> I have a dock in my case which is good but can't be used on other machines
[11:07]<+camerongray> SOmething USB would be better
[11:07]<@Calum> this is the one I got - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CIT-USB-3-0-HDD-Dock-For-2-5-3-5-SATA-HDD-/380645535705?pt=UK_Collectables_HardDriveEnclosures_RL&hash=item58a03defd9
[11:08]<+camerongray> Ahh, nice
[11:08]<@Calum> I haven't got anything with USB3 right now, until I get my new build sorted, so I've only used it on USB2 so far
[11:08]<@Calum> does the job though, was mainly looking for something easier than plugging drives into my PC internally to test them
[11:09]<+camerongray> Yeah
[11:10]<+camerongray> I have a USB 3 flash drive and a pair of hard drives
[11:10]<+camerongray> This is what I got: http://linitx.com/product/zalman-zmve300-portable-virtual-rom-drive-black-usb-30/13488
[11:10]<+camerongray> Really handy!
[11:11]<@Calum> I picked up a USB3 flash drive, haven't used it yet. I have a 64GB USB2 and it's dog slow, a real pain to use
[11:11]<+camerongray> Yeah. mine is 64gb from ebuyer
[11:12]<+camerongray> But that zalman is super cool - Only issue is that some laptops don't detect USB-DVD drives
[11:12]<@Calum> mine's one of those really cheap ones, 4MB/s write speed
[11:12]<@Calum> ah right
[11:12]<+camerongray> Only really HP ones, works really well on other machines though
[11:12]<+camerongray> And a lot faster than CDS
[11:12]<@Calum> that's a pretty cool bit of kit actually
[11:12]<@BC_Programming> well that is one floor of my Minecraft Tree Farm done
[11:12]<@BC_Programming> Birch Trees
[11:13]<+camerongray> Yeah, really good quality
[11:13]<+camerongray> Came with a case too
[11:13]<@Calum> cool
[11:13]<@Calum> I'm not normally a fan of Zalman, but that looks decent
[11:13]<+camerongray> Even the included USB cable is much thicker than the one that came with my WD drive
[11:13]<+camerongray> Used to be made by "iodd" but zalmann bought the rights
[11:13]<@Calum> the one that came with my gf's 500GB WD was about 15cm long...what a joke
[11:13]<@Calum> ah I see
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[11:16]<jamer> well camerongray i think i can talk a guy into getting this one laptop for 50
[11:16]<+camerongray> Nice, what one?
[11:16]<jamer> http://limaohio.craigslist.org/sys/3823668710.html
[11:16] * jamer is now known as Guest11807
[11:16]<Guest11807> needs a key
[11:16] * Guest11807 is now known as lucifer
[11:16]<+camerongray> key?
[11:16]<lucifer> actually its the down arrow key
[11:17]<+camerongray> Ahh, assuming the clips are fine then keys are dead cheap on ebay
[11:17]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/misc/Birchfarm.png
[11:17]<lucifer> less than a couple bucks XD
[11:17]<lucifer> nice tree farm BC_Programming
[11:17] * lucifer is now known as jamer
[11:18]<@BC_Programming> now I just need to make three more of them one for each tree
[11:18]<+camerongray> Aaand lostcoast is a prat again
[11:18]<@BC_Programming> again? you mean he stopped at some point?
[11:19]<+camerongray> he "looked at the card's specs" - Especially since he assumed it was DVI-D before he was even told what card it was
[11:19]<@BC_Programming> lol
[11:20]<jamer> camerongray the 4 gb ram would be nice on the laptop
[11:20]<@BC_Programming> I'm tempted to go in there and force them to ban me lol
[11:20]<+camerongray> Help, my monitor only takes analogue through it's DVI port *facepalm*
[11:20]<+camerongray> Does such a thing even exist!
[11:21]<@BC_Programming> "between your insistence of psychic powers to read specs before being told what the card is, your ridiculous idea that Windows startup options are in the BIOS, and Patio's insistence that Home Premium doesn't have Aero despite it being demonstratable that it does, I'd be surprised if a task force of you guys could find one of your asses"
[11:22]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[11:22]<@BC_Programming> I like the task force
[11:22]<+camerongray> I'm sure db's huge company is familiar with them
[11:22]<@BC_Programming> lol
[11:22]<@BC_Programming> yeah hard to cover all of them
[11:22]<@BC_Programming> they are such a varied troup of incompetence
[11:23]<@Calum> oh my god, thankyou! You just reminded me of a word I was searching for a few days ago and I couldn't remember it for the life of me
[11:23]<@Calum> entourage
[11:23]<+camerongray> heheh
[11:23]<@Calum> you know how things just bug you sometimes? it's been at the back of my mind for days
[11:23]<@BC_Programming> wait which word
[11:23]<+camerongray> yeah!
[11:24]<@Calum> you saying troup, reminded me of entourage
[11:24]<jamer> it sucks but happens XD
[11:24]<@BC_Programming> ahhh
[11:24]<+camerongray> Like when you get a few words of a song stuck in your head looping but no more than that
[11:24]<@Calum> yeah that too
[11:24]<@Calum> but at least you can google that and find the song
[11:24]<@BC_Programming> oh wait! reminding people of words?
[11:25] * @BC_Programming sets mode +h
[11:25]<@BC_Programming> we don't support that use the forum
[11:25]<+camerongray> Was writing some video advert tracking at work, only seemed to be one ad on the system, Had the first few lines from the "Honey Pops" cereal ad stuck in my head for days
[11:25]<@Calum> http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/508/watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png
[11:25]<@Calum> I'm tempted to use that as my avatar on CH actually
[11:25]<jamer> (o??? o5 ;
; why will people no answer me!
[11:25]<@BC_Programming> that image always reminds me of Neil Degrasse Tyson
[11:26]<@Calum> is that because it is Neil Degrasse Tyson?
[11:26]<@BC_Programming> that would do it
[11:26]<@Calum> hehe
[11:26]<@BC_Programming> I wasn't sure
[11:27]<@BC_Programming> That guy is frikkin huge
[11:27]<+camerongray> Or just the "I have no idea" dog
[11:27]<@Calum> I don't even know who he is to be honest, I only know the name because of the meme
[11:27]<+camerongray> Hide the text "lostcoast" in the corner very small
[11:27]<@Calum> haha
[11:27]<+camerongray> I love proving lostcoast wrong...
[11:27]<+camerongray> [18:24:18] <lostcoast> thei help was done yesterday and they came back wasting more time
[11:27]<+camerongray> [18:24:21] <lostcoast> this
[11:27]<+camerongray> [18:26:13] <camerongray> Different person
[11:27]<+camerongray> [18:26:42] <camerongray> Person yesterday had a Novatech PC which is a UK brand, that person had a shawcable hostmask so is not UK
[11:27]<@BC_Programming> He's a scientist I can't remember his specific school of... schoolery
[11:27]<@Calum> for some reason I just have an urge to use several different memes as my avatar
[11:28]<@BC_Programming> ann astrophysicist
[11:28]<@Calum> I've never been that into using them on forums to be honest, just now and again rather than every other post like some people do
[11:28]<@Calum> ah I see
[11:28]<+camerongray> You know those funny "drinking games" - We need one for CH
[11:28]<jamer> camerongray i think either that laptop has a core 2 duo or something
[11:29]<+camerongray> jamer: Yep it does - Worst case could be a core duo but I'd doubt that since it has 4gb RAM
[11:30]<jamer> a core 2 duo is alot better than my desktop i have atm XD
[11:30]<+camerongray> nice!
[11:30]<+camerongray> I THINK those Dells have docking stations, could get one and use it as your desktop!
[11:30]<jamer> i have a amd 64 x2 4200+
[11:30]<+camerongray> Hmm, not sure if it would be better than that
[11:30]<@Calum> it is
[11:31]<+camerongray> Even a laptop core 2?
[11:31]<@Calum> indeed
[11:31]<+camerongray> wow, nice!
[11:31]<jamer> socket 393
[11:31]<@Calum> unless it's one of those odd ULV ones but I doubt that
[11:31]<+camerongray> Not sure if that makes the laptop core 2 great or the athlon x2 crap :P
[11:31]<@BC_Programming> my laptop is a T3200 Dual Core @2.00Ghz from Feb 2008
[11:31]<@Calum> it makes the Athlon old lol
[11:31]<+camerongray> ahh
[11:31]<@Calum> it was great at the time though
[11:31]<@BC_Programming> I still have the receipt for my laptop
[11:32]<@BC_Programming> take it back "yes, after some consideration I have decided this does not meet my needs"
[11:32]<@Calum> heh
[11:32]<jamer> heh
[11:32]<+camerongray> i5 3230m - I win :P
[11:32]<@BC_Programming> of course at this point the laptop has a failing hard drive in it that isn't even the original lol
[11:32]<+camerongray> hehehe!
[11:33]<@BC_Programming> I had to actually make a partition fill the first half of the drive to even install an OS
[11:33]<@BC_Programming> to the second partition
[11:33]<@BC_Programming> bad sectors and guff in that first partition... "here there be dragons and loud screeching sounds"
[11:34]<@BC_Programming> it was probably from some of my ... uh... "percussive maintenance" procedures. Hard drives don't like those
[11:34]<jamer> lol
[11:36]<@BC_Programming> heh always the same with bukkit plugin
[11:36]<@BC_Programming> there's always people
[11:36]<@BC_Programming> asking to make it compatible with some other plugin I've never heard of
[11:37]<+camerongray> I posted a question in CH just incase someone knew it - Anyone here have any idea?
[11:37]<+camerongray> [18:33:50] <camerongray> Anyone familiar with mounting samba/windows shares under linux?
[11:37]<+camerongray> [18:34:48] <camerongray> I have a pair of samba shares on a Debian box, one is allowed only to my user "camerong" and the other is a shared drive accessible to all users in the "users" group
[11:37]<+camerongray> [18:35:16] <camerongray> I can mount the "camerong" one fine with this command: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.0.97/camerong/ /mnt/camerong -o username=$username,password=$password,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777
[11:37]<+camerongray> [18:35:48] <-- guest_37 (Mibbit@1BD0F38E.4FD07838.3AF9939C.IP) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
[11:37]<+camerongray> [18:36:08] <camerongray> But adapting the command for the other drive (By replacing "camerong" with "shared") the command appears to complete fine but I get permission denied when moving into the mouned directory
[11:37]<+camerongray> [18:36:27] <camerongray> I know the share works as I can map the drive fine under Windows 7 pro on tow separate machines
[11:37]<@BC_Programming> you put that in CH really
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[11:41]<@Calum> camerongray: is it standard that the screen comes on when you receive a text in Android? It didn't on my Desire Z but that was on Gingerbread, so ancient lol
[11:41]<+camerongray> Hmm, I honestly have never noticed
[11:41]<jamer> calum depends on the rom
[11:41]<+camerongray> Although I imagine by not noticing it doesn't
[11:41]<@Calum> I did wonder, my D-Z was on Cyanogenmod but it didn't do it on stock either
[11:41]<+camerongray> But mine has an LED on it
[11:42]<@Calum> ahh, maybe that's it...no notification LED on this
[11:42]<jamer> mine does
[11:42]<@Calum> the screen just lights up for a few seconds
[11:42]<@Calum> it's annoying
[11:43]<@Calum> I'll get a custom ROM on it next weekend anyway, need to make sure it's not going to suddenly die before I void the warranty heh
[11:46]<+camerongray> woop! It's a stupid linux permissions thing
[11:49]<@Calum> cool
[11:51]<jamer> Calum my galaxy victory has a custom rom XD
[11:52]<+camerongray> Calum: Someone building gaming PC in CH!
[11:52]<@Calum> I just had to look up what a galaxy victory is, heh...is that an S3 mini in other words?
[11:52]<jamer> yep
[11:53]<@Calum> camerongray: so I see...might be able to help but I'm limited in how much attention I can devote to it
[11:53]<@Calum> jamer: cool :)
[11:53]<@Calum> camerongray: I'll follow along as best I can, you know what you're doing anyway
[11:53]<+camerongray> lol, shout at me here :P
[11:53]<jamer> GAH ... i dont wanna call the person on the laptop but oh well
[11:54]<+camerongray> I know how you feel, I hate phoning
[11:54]<@Calum> heh, will do
[11:55]<@Calum> I am disappoint
[11:56]<jamer> calling
[11:56]<@Calum> camerongray: tell him to wait, Haswell is due in a matter of weeks, little point in buying a Z77 and 3770K right now. Also, get a Samsung 840 Pro for the SSD instead
[11:56]<+camerongray> Yeah, was about to :P
[11:56]<@Calum> dominator platinum is a waste of money
[11:57]<@Calum> well, if it's expensive there like it is here, anyway. Haven't checked on US memory pricing in a while
[11:58]<+camerongray> lol, you are reading my mind
[11:58]<jamer> 60 is the most on it
[11:58]<jamer> and the hard drive was replaced
[11:59]<+camerongray> Hmm, that's still pretty good
[11:59]<@BC_Programming> lol somebody just made a suggestion to add a feature to somebody elses plugin
[11:59]<@BC_Programming> how does that make sense
[11:59]<jamer> Dell Latitude D620
[12:00]<jamer> ill go for it .... its worth the extra 10 bucks
[12:00]<+camerongray> yeah!
[12:00]<@Calum> D620 is core 2 duo as well, not core duo, so that's cool
[12:01]<jamer> yeah
[12:01]<@Calum> camerongray: check what monitor he's going to go for, if he's spending that kind of cash it would be a crime not to go 2560x1440
[12:02]<+camerongray> good point
[12:02]<@Calum> either that or 3D if he's into that
[12:03]<@Calum> I'm itching to say something about the H110 but I will contain myself
[12:03]<+camerongray> Nah, say it
[12:03]<+camerongray> You know better than me
[12:03]<@Calum> I just hate closed loop liquid...it's pointless
[12:03]<@BC_Programming> I do love how there are about a billion markup languages
[12:03]<@BC_Programming> WikiCreole... bbcode... Markdown
[12:06]<+camerongray> lol, I like mine but as you said, for neatness
[12:06]<+camerongray> Was more important in my last case as a big tower made it very tight to work inside
[12:07]<jamer> camerongray it has a NVIDIA? Quadro NVS 110M
[12:07]<@Calum> yeah, it depends what you like...I don't like the way they look, some people do, which is fine. I prefer a nice many looking heatsink instead, or proper WC
[12:07]<+camerongray> jamer: Cool, not really a gaming graphics card though
[12:07]<+camerongray> But should handle aero fine
[12:08]<jamer> camerongray i dont plan on gaming on it
[12:08]<+camerongray> Ahh, cool
[12:17]<jamer> its a intel core 2 duo L7500
[12:24]<+camerongray> Cool, I think that's the low voltage one so a little less powerful than your desktop but still pretty good
[12:24]<+camerongray> And as a bonus you'll get better battery life
[12:24]<jamer> yeah
[12:34]<+camerongray> Noooo, A neighbour is having a BBQ and I can smell it!
[12:34]<@Calum> ah man
[12:34]<@Calum> I would hate that
[12:35]<+camerongray> And my window is open!
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> :O
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> http://blog.diniscruz.com/2013/05/using-fluentsharp-apis-to-refactor-c.html
[12:44]<+camerongray> I love how HP design laptops
[12:44]<@BC_Programming> I'm FAMOUS
[12:44]<+camerongray> Guess where the probook intakes air from?
[12:44]<@BC_Programming> I'm appearing in random blog posts.... it's like a guest appearance
[12:44]<+camerongray> nice!
[12:44]<+camerongray> Air is pulled in throgh the keyboard
[12:44]<+camerongray> Like, why!
[12:45]<+camerongray> So if you spill something in the WASD area it gets nicely channeled down into a nice liquid spreading fan
[12:45]<@Calum> lol
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> I have no idea what this guy is doing
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> oh wait I'm not supposed to do that
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> I'm supposed to pretend I know exactly what is going on and then half-op myself
[12:47]<+camerongray> Calum: Be sure to drop overclocking discussion in there and watch when they try to boss YOU around!
[12:47]<@BC_Programming> eg
[12:48]<@BC_Programming> "we don't talk about overclocking"
[12:48] * @BC_Programming set's mode +h
[12:48]<@BC_Programming> understand?
[12:48]<+camerongray> hahaha
[12:48]<+camerongray> Sweet, this ?20 probook runs minecraft at like 50fps!
[12:49]<+camerongray> Graphics wise it's whatever comes with an Atlon m320
[12:50]<@Calum> ok I'm being a noob here but how do I de-admin/de-op myself? I can't remember IRC commands for the life of me...
[12:51]<@Calum> I want to play the pufferfish game too
[12:51]<@BC_Programming> I have no idea
[12:51]<+camerongray> Calum: BC just uses /me
[12:51]<+camerongray> We should do it in CH :P
[12:51]<@Calum> I know, I was just wondering how you actually do it for real
[12:52]<+camerongray> Where's jacky when you need him :P
[12:53]<@Calum> to google
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> Imma do this but I might not be able to give it back to myself, lol
[12:53] * BC_Programming sets mode: -o BC_Programming
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> that didn't do anything
[12:54]<@Calum> I think you can, so long as you have op rights on the channel
[12:55]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: You're an admin :P
[12:59] * BC_Programming sets mode: -a
[12:59]<@BC_Programming> yay figured it out
[13:00]<@BC_Programming> now watch it not work the other way
[13:00]<@Calum> heh
[13:00]<@BC_Programming> :/
[13:00]<@Calum> hah really?
[13:00]<@BC_Programming> * BC_Programming: you're not channel operator
[13:00]<@Calum> how did you do it, I should be able to re-admin you
[13:00]<@BC_Programming> I used /mode #GlitchPC -ao BC_Programming
[13:00]<@BC_Programming> to remove it
[13:01]<@BC_Programming> if I dc and reident chanserv will probably do it too
[13:01]<@Calum> 499: | [0] Calum, [1] #glitchpc, [2] You're not a channel owner
[13:01]<@Calum> seems I can't admin you
[13:01]<@BC_Programming> brb
[13:01] * BC_Programming (BC_Program@mib-B299933B.bchsia.telus.net) Quit (Quit: And so it seems my mission is the same. What always ends in bloodshed, begins as just a game.)
[13:01] * Calum sets mode: -o Calum
[13:01] * BC_Programming (BC_Program@mib-B299933B.bchsia.telus.net) has joined #glitchpc
[13:01] * ChanServ sets mode: +a
[13:01] * ChanServ sets mode: +o BC_Programming
[13:01] * Calum sets mode: +o Calum
[13:01] * Calum sets mode: +h Calum
[13:01]<@BC_Programming> there we go
[13:02] * Calum sets mode: -h Calum
[13:02]<@Calum> In the client I used to use I could do that stuff with a right click heh...I thought I knew the command but I was forgetting the channel name!
[13:02]<@BC_Programming> I wonder how they do that in CH
[13:03]<@BC_Programming> maybe they have commands aliased to /puff and /depuff
[13:03]<@Calum> bahahaha
[13:03]<@Calum> I am actually going to set that up in my client, when I get around to downloading one
[13:03] * Calum sets mode: -o Calum
[13:03] * Calum sets mode: -a
[13:03] * Calum was kicked by ChanbotVII (Abusing desync)
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[13:03] * ChanServ sets mode: +a
[13:03] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Calum
[13:04]<@BC_Programming> what
[13:04]<@BC_Programming> "Abusing desync"?
[13:04]<@Calum> come at me bro
[13:04]<@Calum> I don't know what that means either actually
[13:04]<@Calum> I was wondering if Chanbot still kicked ops though, answer is yes lol
[13:05]<@BC_Programming> ahh but you weren't opped at the time
[13:05]<@Calum> I was admin though
[13:05]<@BC_Programming> chanbot has been waiting for you to remove your sheilding just to do that
[13:05]<@BC_Programming> shows -o and -a my end
[13:06]<@Calum> ah fair enough
[13:06]<@BC_Programming> seems that the desync thing is some eggdrop setting in the bot
[13:06]<@Calum> maybe I should set more commands, /shieldsup and /shieldsdown
[13:09] * @Calum deops the bot, gets kicked, then cries about it till the bot gets removed from the channel
[13:10]<@BC_Programming> bahaha
[13:10]<@BC_Programming> oooh I just had a evil idea to give Jacky a start
[13:10]<@Calum> do tell
[13:10] * BC_Programming is now known as Zylstra
[13:10] * Zylstra is now known as BC_Programming
[13:11]<@BC_Programming> aww it's registered still
[13:11]<@Calum> haha
[13:11]<@BC_Programming> jacky would join and be like wtf
[13:11]<@Calum> How about Zylstra555?
[13:11]<@Calum> That was his old nick
[13:11] * BC_Programming is now known as Zylstra555
[13:11] * Zylstra555 is now known as BC_Programming
[13:11]<@BC_Programming> nah it's reg'd too
[13:12]<@Calum> ah
[13:12]<@BC_Programming> -NickServ- Time registered: Aug 08 16:44:34 2009 UTC
[13:12]<@BC_Programming> -
[13:12]<@BC_Programming> -NickServ- Last seen time: May 09 18:11:20 2013 UTC
[13:12]<@BC_Programming> info for Zylstra nick
[13:12]<@Calum> interesting
[13:12]<@Calum> I've let my nick lapse so many time
[13:13]<@Calum> *times
[13:13]<@Calum> how long is it reg'd for, 30 days or something?
[13:13]<@BC_Programming> either one or two months
[13:14]<@Calum> fair enough
[13:14]<@Calum> I must've re registered my nick about 6 times heh
[13:18]<+Tux2> Hey BC_Programming
[13:18]<@BC_Programming> ahoy
[13:19]<+Tux2> lol, just looked up my nick... It's been registered longer than his
[13:19]<+Tux2> Time registered: Mar 13 18:48:35 2009 UTC
[13:20]<@BC_Programming> Time registered: Jun 12 03:42:24 2009 UTC for me
[13:20]<+Tux2> wow.. has it really been that long???
[13:21]<Nat> woah
[13:22]<+Tux2> Hey nat
[13:22]<Nat> hi!
[13:22]<@Calum> camerongray: sorted that guy with his WC, now I'm heading off...I've managed to while away my entire afternoon and most of the evening, without getting 90% of my list done heh. Cassie will not be happy.
[13:22]<+Tux2> lol, your nick was registered shortly after: Time registered: Jan 14 06:16:13 2010 UTC
[13:22]<@Calum> Catch you guys later!
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[13:22]<+camerongray> lol
[13:23]<@BC_Programming> 90% of his list
[13:23]<+Tux2> lol...
[13:23]<@BC_Programming> that means he could have gotten 89% of his list done
[13:28]<+Tux2> lol...
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[14:02]<jamer> gosh dangit ...
[14:03]<@BC_Programming> ok
[14:03]<jamer> i got told i cant drive that distance to go get the laptop cause its too far
[14:04]<@BC_Programming> what distance
[14:04]<jamer> 40 miles one way
[14:05]<@BC_Programming> yeah that's pretty far... but you need to learn not to give details that aren't needed heheh
[14:05]<jamer> it was by my grandpa ....
[14:06]<+camerongray> Can't they ship it?
[14:06]<jamer> shipping would cost alot more
[14:06]<+camerongray> Ahh
[14:08]<+camerongray> Even the cheapest shipping possible?
[14:08]<jamer> cheapest shipping is close to 20 bucks
[14:09]<+camerongray> Ahh
[14:11]<@BC_Programming> >:(
[14:11]<@BC_Programming> Eclipse has suddenly decided that I cannot use anonymous interface implementations
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> final PlayerData pdata;
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> highlights pdata
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> "pdata could not be resolved to a variable
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> it's the frikkin declaration you doofus
[14:14]<jamer> i think i got a break XD
[14:15]<+camerongray> sweet!
[14:15]<+camerongray> lol, gat_man is in CH, never came back here :P
[14:15]<jamer> my sister would be willing to take me XD
[14:15]<+camerongray> sweet!
[14:15]<jamer> if you want him here camerongray than invite him XD
[14:16] * @BC_Programming sets mode +h
[14:16]<@BC_Programming> you feelin lucky
[14:16]<jamer> h?
[14:16]<@BC_Programming> half-op
[14:16]<+camerongray> jamer: He started arguing and got proved wrong, like in CH
[14:17]<jamer> ah
[14:17]<+camerongray> Along the line of "XP is best"
[14:17]<jamer> windows 7 is
[14:17]<+camerongray> and couldn't tell the difference between pro and home
[14:17]<jamer> lol
[14:17]<@BC_Programming> "I just know in my 60 years XP was more stable" or something stupid like that
[14:17]<+camerongray> Then started rambling making NO sense!
[14:18]<+camerongray> NO! "Pro is more stable"
[14:18]<@BC_Programming> then said "automate" meant "moronify" while I was talking about LINUX
[14:19]<@BC_Programming> because Writing Bas scripts is clearly a task designed to "moronify" users
[14:19]<+camerongray> lol
[14:19]<jamer> MSE is a peice of junk ....
[14:19]<jamer> takes 3 hours on a scan to find nothing
[14:20]<jamer> on a hdd i know is infected
[14:20]<+camerongray> lol, isn't not finding stuff good?
[14:20]<+camerongray> Ahh, hmm
[14:20]<@BC_Programming> @ expected... why does it expect a @ BAD ECLIPSE
[14:21]<+camerongray> I remember arguing with lostcoast about antivirus
[14:21]<+camerongray> He's like, you should use Avast then have MBAM, and spybot and superantivirus
[14:21]<+camerongray> I use MSE and nothing else, never been infected
[14:21]<@BC_Programming> superantivirus lol
[14:21]<@BC_Programming> http://pastebin.com/gZyiuLm2
[14:22]<+camerongray> Error is on line 19
[14:22]<jamer> i use avast ...
[14:22]<@BC_Programming> 19 is blank
[14:22]<+camerongray> lol, I was joking :P
[14:22]<jamer> lol
[14:23]<jamer> cant type sarcasm XD
[14:23]<+camerongray> Avast is good but I really don't feel a threat from viruses so I don't feel that I need much
[14:24]<@BC_Programming> it highlights the open brace on the Runnable() and says it's a syntax error
[14:24]<jamer> i use it cause of connecting others hard drives and such onto mine to get data for people
[14:24]<+camerongray> Ahh, I always use Linux for taht
[14:24]<+camerongray> that*
[14:25]<@BC_Programming> this is REALLLY starting to PISS ME the frik off
[14:27]<@BC_Programming> "misplaced constructs" Really, you f***ing think so Eclipse? I figured that much out myself you piece of crap
[14:27]<@BC_Programming> be a shame if it told me WHERE
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> instead of pointing at variable declarations and saying the variables were declared
[14:28]<@Mulreay> Something vexes thee?
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> you are observant
[14:28]<@Mulreay> I pride myself on it
[14:28]<+camerongray> hey Mulreay
[14:28]<@Mulreay> hey camerongray
[14:28]<+camerongray> Actually, not "seen" you for a while
[14:29]<jamer> hey Mulreay long time no talk
[14:29]<@Mulreay> hey jamer
[14:31]<@BC_Programming> :/
[14:32]<@BC_Programming> wow
[14:32]<@BC_Programming> it was a single missing brace near the bottom of the file
[14:32]<@BC_Programming> flagging errors near the top inexplicably
[14:32]<jamer> O.o i have 4 rootkits on my desktop
[14:32]<@BC_Programming> I do love the zen of the error where it tells me a variable isn't defined in the declaration of it... that's kinda why I figured I'd declare the variable and all that
[14:33]<jamer> though they are from adobe XD
[14:38]<jamer> so i got it for tuesday the laptop XD
[14:39]<+camerongray> Nice!
[14:39]<+camerongray> And now gat_man is suggesting to disconnect the CMOS battery to recover from a failed BIOS flash
[14:40]<@BC_Programming> hey he has 60 years of experience being entirely incoherent
[14:40]<jamer> XD
[14:40]<jamer> the guy is removing the post for me :D
[14:40]<+camerongray> I posted this: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=120&prodSeriesId=5046252&prodTypeId=321957&objectID=c02693833
[14:40]<+camerongray> They are completely ignoring it!
[14:42]<jamer> camerongray your right ... i should of looked around and i got a good deal XD
[14:42]<+camerongray> Baconbuttie now posts the same instructions from a different source *facepalm*
[14:43]<jamer> camerongray i got it right on the limit of my money also
[14:43]<jamer> 50 dollars for the laptop
[14:44]<+camerongray> Nice!
[14:44]<jamer> double win!
[14:45]<+camerongray> And quantos just keeps screaming "New motherboard"
[14:46]<@BC_Programming> but did me give himself +h?
[14:49]<+camerongray> lol!
[14:49]<@BC_Programming> he*
[14:49]<+camerongray> It's like earlier, fine a new motherboard is a possibility but you shouldn't jump to it
[14:49]<@BC_Programming> "new universe"
[14:50]<@BC_Programming> "how do I do that"
[14:50] * @BC_Programming sets mode +h
[14:50]<@BC_Programming> making universes is a programming question!
[14:51]<+camerongray> hehehe
[14:53]<jamer> ive got the universe simulator program XD
[14:53] * @BC_Programming sets mode +h
[14:53]<@BC_Programming> I Won't warn you again!
[14:53]<@BC_Programming> :P
[14:54]<jamer> head to head collision on who would win (camerongrey vs bacon)
[14:55]<@BC_Programming> well let's see
[14:55]<@BC_Programming> camerongray knows what he is talking about and knows when he doesn't know what he's talking about
[14:55]<@BC_Programming> and baconbuttie couldn't find his ass with both hands
[14:55]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[14:55]<+camerongray> lol
[14:56]<+camerongray> bacon can't understand that the user is following the instructions and they aren;t working
[14:56]<+camerongray> User has to be doing it wrong
[15:13]<@BC_Programming> apparently some guy claims to have made an office suite in 30 days
[15:13]<@BC_Programming> shame it's open source and we can clearly see his commit history goes back to February
[15:13]<@BC_Programming> otherwise his evidence is bulletproof
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[15:18]<+camerongray> lol, link?
[15:19]<@BC_Programming> it's called Joeffice
[15:20]<+camerongray> Ahh, nice!
[15:21]<jamer> camerongray the funny think is that the guy selling the laptop im getting doesnt even know the model of the laptop XD
[15:21]<@BC_Programming> yeah it wouldn't be too bad if the creator wasn't clearly a lying douche
[15:21]<+camerongray> jamer: Ahh yeah, lots don't kno wthat stuff
[15:21]<jamer> its a dell d630
[15:22]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: But at what stage did it become functional?
[15:22]<@BC_Programming> doesn't matter
[15:22]<@BC_Programming> the way he talks about it you'd think it was 30 days from from he started to get press
[15:23]<@BC_Programming> in one quote, I think he even says "in the last 30 days"
[15:28]<jamer> camerongray the laptop supports up to 8 gb ram XD
[15:29]<+camerongray> Sweet!
[15:29]<jamer> thats a bonus
[15:34]<jamer> camerongray your right ... if i get this laptop it would be worth more to sell the parts XD
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[15:49]<jamer> hey
[15:49] * skilz8532 is now known as Cr0c
[15:49]<Cr0c> hey jamer
[15:49]<Cr0c> :)
[15:49]<jamer> say hi to the gang XD
[15:50]<Cr0c> when i clicked ur link, it also logged me into ch :s
[15:50]<jamer> how O.o
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[15:50]<jamer> it didnt on mine O.o
[15:51]<Cr0c> i have a bookmark on the browser toolbar and my login is set to auto connect to ch
[15:51]<jamer> oh
[15:51]<@BC_Programming> could always do the unthinkable and use a real IRC client
[15:52]<Cr0c> is true, but i've always liked being able to highlight text in chat, right click and search it w/google all in a browser
[15:52]<Cr0c> when i'm trying to help someone
[15:52]<jamer> we talk computer stuff life and general stuff (we are against lostcoast and his minions XD)
[15:53]<+camerongray> Not against them :P
[15:53]<+camerongray> Just get annoyed at them
[15:53]<@BC_Programming> yeah I never said that
[15:53]<@BC_Programming> I believe my specific quote was that they couldn't find their asses with both hands
[15:53]<jamer> :P
[15:54]<jamer> well against their bad advice (better choice of words)
[15:54]<Cr0c> i've heard or seen glitchpc somewhere b4. maybe in the ch forum
[15:55]<jamer> theres a username of glitchpc on the forums
[15:55]<Cr0c> my main pc has a glitch atm :(
[15:58]<jamer> whats happening on it
[16:07]<Cr0c> is this website http://evilspages.blogspot.com/ associated w/glitchpc? some1 at ch linked me to that page. has a lot of good stuff on it
[16:07]<@Mulreay> Why the spaces?
[16:07]<@BC_Programming> no that's EvilFantasy's site
[16:07]<@BC_Programming> he's a malware expert on CH
[16:08]<@BC_Programming> he was a malware expert on the GlitchPC forum before that went to crap
[16:08]<@Mulreay> Went to crap?
[16:08]<@BC_Programming> before everybody there realized it was fundamentally a waste of time
[16:09]<@Mulreay> That would suggest entropy
[16:09]<@Mulreay> It was always as it is now
[16:14]<jamer> ill be back
[16:14]<@Mulreay> breath held
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[16:16]<@BC_Programming> and thus Mulreay's fate was sealed and he asphyxiated
[16:18]<@Mulreay> I'm fiiine lknkl''jpjo#[po
[16:18]<@Mulreay> ']#
[16:18]<@Mulreay> help]
[16:18]<@Mulreay> jklo;
[16:18]<@Mulreay> eaughhhhh
[16:18]<+camerongray> lol
[16:18]<+camerongray> Sometimes I miss steve though
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[16:19]<+camerongray> Even Calum hasn't heard from him in ages
[16:19]<@BC_Programming> don't hold your breath for agreement from us
[16:19]<@Mulreay> I would rather walk aroung Manchester with a stone in my shoe than speek to him
[16:20]<+camerongray> lol
[16:20]<Cr0c> camerongray: do u mean lostcoast steve?
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> no
[16:20]<+camerongray> Nah, Steve was the owner of GlitchPC
[16:20]<+camerongray> I never miss LC :P
[16:20]<Cr0c> Oh OK :)
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> I say goodbye to LC when I flush
[16:21]<+camerongray> hahha
[16:21]<@Mulreay> I wonder if lostcoast has ever been missed? He was out till about 12am one night and his Dad was all 'Where's that guy that
[16:21]<Cr0c> i used to be a hop at ch chat, until lc started a political debate w/me
[16:21]<@Mulreay> thats normally here about this time?
[16:21]<+camerongray> wow!
[16:21]<+camerongray> What was your nick in there?
[16:21]<Cr0c> i won debate but lost hop
[16:22]<+camerongray> What was the debate?
[16:22]<Cr0c> bling853, cr0c0di13
[16:22]<@BC_Programming> that certainly answers the question
[16:22]<+camerongray> Ahh, must have been when I wasn't there
[16:22]<Cr0c> it was in his special channel for his hop(s)
[16:22]<+camerongray> ahh
[16:22]<+camerongray> They hate me because I question them
[16:23]<+camerongray> They talk complete nonsense and expect me to just sit back
[16:23]<Cr0c> and lasted an hour or more, about presidential election b4 the election
[16:23]<@BC_Programming> yes that is why I'm not there
[16:23]<+camerongray> LIke earlier today, someone was getting a BSOD and LC is trying to get them to disable "Restart on error" in the BIOS
[16:23]<Cr0c> i have a transcript and it's good reading if anyone would like to read it :)
[16:23]<+camerongray> Sure :P
[16:24]<+camerongray> I've contacted Nathan many times, says he'll do something but never does
[16:24]<@Mulreay> I LOVE computerhope, and just because I would never of met camerongray, BC_Programming, Craig, jacky, street1, Tux2 and others... etc etc.
[16:24]<+camerongray> Yeah!
[16:24]<@BC_Programming> a lot of it comes down to Nathan methinks, I disagree with much of Jacky's opinions about him but I do agree that Nathan has a terrible track record at selecting mods and chat ops and whatnot
[16:24]<@Mulreay> Did you buy that?
[16:24]<Cr0c> let me grab it. it's on other pc so i may log into here from that pc
[16:24]<+camerongray> lol
[16:25]<@Mulreay> I agree though BC_Programming
[16:25]<@BC_Programming> the prerequisites seems to be 5 posts and a funny signature
[16:25]<+Tux2> lol
[16:25]<+camerongray> Yeah, a lot of them seem to be good ops but not good at helping
[16:25]<+camerongray> hey Tux2
[16:26]<@BC_Programming> I should be 2000 moderators by now!
[16:26]<+camerongray> Got my server working :D
[16:26]<+camerongray> DB wouldn't like it though, it's an Intel Atom, and as he says, home servers need Xeons!
[16:26]<@Mulreay> BC_Programming if I'm honest you should never EVER mod CH
[16:26]<+camerongray> Tux2: guess how much power it pulls!
[16:27]<@BC_Programming> I could become a moderator and then dissappear, that seems to be what usually happens
[16:27]<+camerongray> Yeah
[16:27]<+Tux2> camerongray: probably not much?
[16:27]<@BC_Programming> I could even pull a Zylstra and go all "omgz I'm leavings the forum"
[16:27]<+camerongray> 38w!
[16:27]<+camerongray> With a pair of 7200rpm drives
[16:28]<+Tux2> Nice!
[16:28]<@BC_Programming> I disagree!
[16:28] * @BC_Programming sets mode +h
[16:28]<@Mulreay> I only say BC_Programming because I don't think you would be a good CH moderator.
[16:28]<@BC_Programming> I also disagree with that
[16:28]<@Mulreay> You know, you know stuff and don't take sides... will never fit in
[16:28] * @BC_Programming sets mode +h again
[16:28]<+camerongray> lol!
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[16:29]<+camerongray> TBH their ability doesn't surprise me, I can imagine them working in PC repair shops
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> if somebody half-ops themselves twice do they become full op
[16:29]<@Mulreay> PC World?
[16:29]<+camerongray> Where the owner has clearly thought, "I can fix PCs"
[16:29]<+camerongray> And just suggests motherboard replacements
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> "I fixed a PC once when my cat sneezed on it"
[16:29]<+camerongray> lol
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> "it took an hour"
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> "but I traced the issue to the mouse being flipped over"
[16:29]<+camerongray> Mulreay: You missed earlier, someone had a BIOS update that failed
[16:30]<+camerongray> I post a link to HP's BIOS recovery method
[16:30]<+camerongray> Quantos keeps shouting "Get a new Motherboard"
[16:30]<@Mulreay> wow
[16:30]<@BC_Programming> let's all talk about how great I am!
[16:30]<+camerongray> All you needed was a BIOS file on a USB drive, hold down Winkey+B and power on, copies the BIOS file off the drive
[16:30] * @BC_Programming sets mode +h
[16:30]<@BC_Programming> just a friendly suggestion of course
[16:31]<+camerongray> Actually a very neat solution for a consumer laptop
[16:31]<+camerongray> HE PUFFED!
[16:31]<+camerongray> <Quantos> Kewl_Beans: I hope you aren't suggesting that somebody disable the AV
[16:31]<+camerongray> <RoundhouseSteak> oh wait
[16:31]<+camerongray> *** Mode #computerhope +h Quantos by ChanServ
[16:31]<+camerongray> <Kewl_Beans> no i am not
[16:31]<@BC_Programming> BAHAHA
[16:31]<Cr0c> http://mibpaste.com/7ImE58 depending on ur politics this could make u hate me, but i hope not. and LC did start this. after my last statement, he kicked/banned me from his special channel. i guess he didn' t have a comeback, eh :)
[16:32]<+camerongray> Ahh
[16:32]<+camerongray> That's ridiculous! Something like that isn't even related to CH so why should it affect your hop?
[16:32]<@Mulreay> You know what I like? BC_Programming he makes my shoulders shake with laughter.. I piss myself daily just knowing he's about... BC_Programming id the king of this sentence, or topic... OK not the topic but he's amazing. @BC_Programming OK you owe me a ?10
[16:33]<+camerongray> And apparantly, telling someone who isn't getting a video display to remove their video card and try onboard graphics is "backtracking"
[16:33]<+camerongray> "We need to get the card working"
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[16:34]<+camerongray> Surely checking if the rest of the PC works is more important
[16:34]<Cr0c> beats me, but after Obama won, he found silly reason to take my hop
[16:34]<@BC_Programming> that's funny because LC basically used the redneck "if you don't like murica, you can get out" thing in there
[16:34]<jamer> Hey
[16:35]<Cr0c> WB jamer :)
[16:35]<@BC_Programming> The funniest part is that Americans argue between Democrats and republicans and don't realize that they are barely different as far as the ideological spectrum
[16:35]<Magiobiwan> I have no idea why people still go to Computerhope
[16:35]<Magiobiwan> The advice given rhere is worse than useless
[16:36]<Magiobiwan> Seriously
[16:36]<+camerongray> Hey Mulreay
[16:36]<+camerongray> grr
[16:36]<Cr0c> Magiobiwan: has been a long time since i've been there
[16:36]<+camerongray> Hey Magiobiwan
[16:36]<Magiobiwan> Hey
[16:36]<+camerongray> I know, I try for some reason - Hate seeing people being badly advised
[16:36]<+camerongray> But all the ops hate me for questioning them
[16:36]<Magiobiwan> Yeah. The way the go about things is problematic.
[16:37]<+camerongray> banned me once for helping someone who had been told to go to the forum - I had had the exact same problem on my (very similar) PC
[16:37]<Cr0c> lc outlawed proxies cause peeps were avoiding bans using them, but he included vpn just after he and i had long convo about the vpn i use and it was all OK at that time
[16:37]<+camerongray> Yeah, hasn't found out I have a remote box for my IRC - Doubt he'd like that
[16:38]<+camerongray> This is what I have to put up with - Quantos: "I haven't seen anyone whine this much about anything since elementary school.
[16:38]<+camerongray> You ingratiating little *censored* hound. You need to grow up and grow a pair."
[16:38]<Magiobiwan> I dont think hed like that i use an IRC Bouncer
[16:38]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: when was that?
[16:38]<+camerongray> After they banned me and I made the forum post
[16:39]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[16:39]<@BC_Programming> almost tempted to get myself banned
[16:39]<+camerongray> Just try and help and correct them
[16:39]<@BC_Programming> by joining and refusing to ever back down
[16:39]<@BC_Programming> the whole set's mode +h bollocks doesn't scare me
[16:39]<+camerongray> Yeah, and complain on the forum
[16:39]<+camerongray> This was what happened before the PM: http://pastebin.com/1czZUkKX
[16:39]<@BC_Programming> "oh no! I won't be able to help people in this channel and you'll be left with a majority of dumb people"
[16:40]<@Mulreay> I'm dumb!!!
[16:40]<+camerongray> lol
[16:40]<@BC_Programming> I said majority
[16:40]<@BC_Programming> and was referring to CH
[16:40]<@Mulreay> No, I'm actually dumb
[16:40]<@BC_Programming> oh
[16:40]<@BC_Programming> well I guess knowing is half the battle
[16:41]<+camerongray> Magiobiwan, Cr0c - This is what they do when questioned: http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,136895.0.html
[16:43]<@Mulreay> I like bank holidays.. more people want me too do more things than normal... yeah right day of rest
[16:46] * Magiobiwan ponders an idea
[16:46]<+camerongray> I'm listening :P
[16:46]<@Mulreay> 1998 twitter comments.. I almost missed that boat
[16:47]<Magiobiwan> We could overthrow the overlords of the channel
[16:47]<+camerongray> lol
[16:47]<+camerongray> That'll never happen :P
[16:47]<Magiobiwan> It could
[16:47]<Magiobiwan> Wirh a large # of proxies and VPNs
[16:48]<+camerongray> lol, nah
[16:48]<+camerongray> I don't want to be in charg
[16:48]<+camerongray> charge*
[16:48]<+camerongray> I just want them to realiase that I'm not an idiot
[16:48]<@BC_Programming> you just want to help them learn to find their asses with at least both hands, then go from there
[16:49]<+camerongray> yeah!
[16:50]<+camerongray> And stop telling me to do things that they don't do themselves
[16:50]<@BC_Programming> they however, insist they are ass-finding experts
[16:50]<+camerongray> Person can't get DVI to VGA adapter working, lostcoast is instantly "You have a DVI-D port" without knowing the graphics card
[16:50]<@BC_Programming> and that "help us find out asses? I think not, I've been a professional ass-finder for 60 years!"
[16:50]<+camerongray> I suggest they get a DVI cable LC: "You can't assume, check that their monitor supports digital DVI and not DVI-A"
[16:51]<+camerongray> Because some monitors only accept analogue through DVI *D'OH!*
[16:51]<@BC_Programming> or "I'm the diagnostic technician of a company that specializes in enterprise-level ass-finding"
[16:51]<+camerongray> lol
[16:51]<+camerongray> Cr0c: What do you know about db100547?
[16:54]<@BC_Programming> answer the question
[16:54] * @BC_Programming sets mode +h
[16:54]<@BC_Programming> lol that never gets old
[16:55]<Magiobiwan> Its a fair assumption that kts a DVI-D
[16:55]<@Mulreay> It gets kinda old
[16:55]<Magiobiwan> I hawnt seen anything with DVI-A before
[16:55]<+camerongray> True, but I'd gone through the steps and despite being DVI-D the connector was DVI-I
[16:55]<+camerongray> It just annoyed me that he then told me not to assume and to check the monitor
[16:55]<Magiobiwan> True
[16:57]<@Mulreay> I did my 200th tweet it was <censored> but i did it
[16:57]<@Mulreay> 200th*
[16:57]<@Mulreay> ahhhhh
[16:57]<@Mulreay> 2000th
[16:58]<Cr0c> camerongray: was reading the link Magiobiwan posted about ur ban
[16:58]<+camerongray> Yeah
[16:58]<@Mulreay> I love being banned
[16:58]<Cr0c> i've known db is from england and have always got along w/him fine
[16:58]<+camerongray> Yeah, he's fine when I chat to him but not good like that
[16:59]<Cr0c> i meant to say i've known db for some time and ....
[16:59]<+camerongray> What confuses me is he acts like he's the head of IT for some huge organisation but seems to just use it as an excuse to throw his weight around
[17:00]<+camerongray> Like when I warned someone about an OCZ PSU - He goes "We run around 600 of them and they work fine"
[17:00]<Cr0c> LOL i was about to say he leaves ch frequently to take care of big responsibility for some company :)
[17:02]<+camerongray> Yeah
[17:02]<+camerongray> I'd love to know if it was real or not
[17:02]<+camerongray> He is super secrative about everything
[17:02]<@BC_Programming> It's not until proven otherwise
[17:03]<+camerongray> Yet I found his name after 2mins on google and there is no entry on Linkedin or anything
[17:03]<@BC_Programming> and there is a lot of evidence that flies in the face of the theory
[17:03]<+camerongray> You'd think if you were that huge you would have some kind of online presense
[17:03]<@BC_Programming> not knowing wtf he is talking about most of the time is a pretty good indicator for example
[17:03]<Cr0c> i've wondered if he works for that dude that owns all things Virgin
[17:04]<@BC_Programming> well I will do some googles then
[17:04]<@BC_Programming> let's put it this way
[17:04]<@BC_Programming> did I tell you the guy on a forum that made similar claims?
[17:05]<@BC_Programming> "canownueasy" was his screen name... he made a lot of claims, about being part of a big company, being a professional programmer, etc
[17:05]<@BC_Programming> googled his screen name... linked to github... had his full real name... found facebook, found his fake employment information, discovered he was 16, laughed
[17:05]<+camerongray> Yeah, remember that
[17:05]<+camerongray> Something about running a free wifi network
[17:05]<@BC_Programming> I mean nothing wrong with being 16 of course
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[17:06]<jamer> Lol bc
[17:06]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: Hint... Google his nick, there's an email address "name@db100547.plus.com"
[17:06]<@BC_Programming> yes I'm googling
[17:06]<+camerongray> And I know his ISP is plusnet who that email domain is from (I know that becuase they are also my ISP)
[17:07]<@BC_Programming> lol online dating profile
[17:07]<+camerongray> Yeah, and some worse stuff...
[17:07]<+camerongray> If you are inclined to use those sites you don't use the nick you use everywhere else :P
[17:08]<@BC_Programming> :/
[17:09]<+camerongray> Found what I was talking about>
[17:10]<@BC_Programming> hmm also bc-programming.com is showing up in the search results, the channel logs
[17:11]<+camerongray> Yeah, saw that
[17:17]<@Mulreay> Wow I actually called it... my website is down with an internal server ever and I posted a ticket with a 500 error without even thinking... that's big for me
[17:17]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: Found anything yet?
[17:17]<@BC_Programming> I got bored
[17:17]<Cr0c> i'm gonna watch end of game 3 grizzles vs spurs on dvr. bbl
[17:17]<+camerongray> Mulreay: That's programming talk
[17:18] * @BC_Programming sets mode +h
[17:18]<+camerongray> great, ruined it!
[17:18]<@BC_Programming> you had one job
[17:18]<+camerongray> hahaha
[17:18]<+camerongray> And in my excitement to do that I dropped my ice cream and it smashed on my server
[17:18]<@BC_Programming> oh woe
[17:18]<+camerongray> lol
[17:19]<+camerongray> Oh, but it's not a server
[17:19]<+camerongray> It's not Xeon
[17:20]<+camerongray> The only person that I found that comes close to db was someone who does contract work for SAP
[17:20]<@Mulreay> It's been about 7yrs since I turned up here.. I'm hoping to find out who BC_Programming's Dad is.. 'comping soon to a chat near you!!
[17:20]<@Mulreay> coming*
[17:20]<+camerongray> Which certainly isn't maintaining a fleet of thousands of servers and managing the whole IT system for Europe and Asia
[17:20]<@Mulreay> I bety it's Frankie Boyle
[17:21]<@Mulreay> bet*
[17:21]<+camerongray> lol!
[17:21] * jamer sets mode +I
[17:21]<jamer> :p
[17:21]<+camerongray> What if it turns out if it was db!
[17:23]<@BC_Programming> it's nice that we can turn me not knowing my biological father for my entire life into a joke, you'd almost think it was a serious issue that I prefer not to talk or think about most of the time
[17:23]<jamer> Uhh ... I think I crashed my irc app
[17:23]<+camerongray> Oh sorry bC
[17:23]<jamer> I cant see messages at all brb
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[17:24]<@BC_Programming> would be funny if I banned him while he was out of the channel
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[17:24]<+camerongray> lol!
[17:24]<+camerongray> aww
[17:24]<jamer> :p camerongrey
[17:24]<+camerongray> We were'd plotting to ban you or anything...
[17:25] * @BC_Programming sets mode +h
[17:25]<@BC_Programming> that doesn't even make sense there!
[17:25]<+camerongray> One day you'll accidentally use that in CH
[17:25]<@BC_Programming> ...and they'll believe it
[17:25]<@BC_Programming> "when did you get half-op"
[17:25]<jamer> Bc its an actual mode
[17:26]<jamer> Sets where only halfop and up can join
[17:28]<jamer> Camerongrey join #cars and ill show you
[17:33]<jamer> Hm
[17:33]<jamer> Alls quiet
[17:34]<+camerongray> Oh sorry
[17:34] * BC_Programming sets mode: +h BC_Programming
[17:35]<@BC_Programming> THat's Right
[17:35]<@BC_Programming> It's going down now
[17:35] * BC_Programming sets mode: -h BC_Programming
[17:35]<@BC_Programming> ok just flexing there
[17:35]<@BC_Programming> make sure you all know what's what and when is who
[17:35]<+camerongray> lol
[17:36]<+Tux2> lol
[17:36]<@BC_Programming> are you questioning my grammar?
[17:36] * BC_Programming sets mode: +h BC_Programming
[17:36]<@BC_Programming> HUH? ARE YOU?
[17:36]<+Tux2> Meh
[17:36] * BC_Programming sets mode: -h BC_Programming
[17:36]<@BC_Programming> good
[17:36]<+Tux2> :P
[17:36]<@BC_Programming> almost had a problem there
[17:37]<@BC_Programming> the sad thing is that this satirization is often par for the course in #CH
[17:39]<jamer> Lol
[17:42]<jamer> Bc try and actually make the channel +h
[17:44]<jamer> You could kick me bc_programming to test if it works
[17:45]<@BC_Programming> there is no +h mode for channels
[17:46]<jamer> Thought there was ... read it somewhere that it allows nonly half and up to join
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[17:47]<@BC_Programming> and I read somewhere that I could get a million dollars if I send only 10K through western union
[17:47]<jamer> Lol
[17:47]<jamer> Was gonna say skmething lime that XD
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[18:23]<+camerongray> And again (Person was asking for a build and asked me if they should add a WiFi card)...
[18:23]<+camerongray> [01:20:49] <Holdenator_9000> camerongray: NOW I have my real final verdict (I will use Ethernet instead of Wi-Fi for internet speed reasons): http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10gUs
[18:23]<+camerongray> [01:21:05] <camerongray> Nice!
[18:23]<+camerongray> [01:21:23] <db100547> Holdenator_9000: you did not know ethernet was faster . sheesh . !
[18:23]<@BC_Programming> It's funny because it depends on the ethernet and wifi
[18:24]<@BC_Programming> 802.11n is faster than 802.10 100mbps most of the time
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[18:24]<+camerongray> yeah
[18:24]<+camerongray> And chances are he has a consumer router with 10/100 ports
[18:24]<+camerongray> Now he's recommending "Zonar" soundcards - It's "Xonar"
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[18:25]<@BC_Programming> Xonar DG I heard is really cheap but also very good
[18:25]<@BC_Programming> new PCI-E soundcard was what I was gunning for before I quit my job heh
[18:27]<+camerongray> Ahh cool
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[19:23]<+camerongray> CH "skillz" proven wrong again...
[19:26]<+camerongray> "You can't install Vista over a linux partition without gparted"
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[19:42]<jamer> Camerongrey its a dell d620 for exact
[19:42]<+camerongray> NIce, they are good
[19:44]<jamer> 4 gb ram max so I dont havento worry about ram XF
[19:46]<+camerongray> yeah
[19:48]<jamer> Its what I want in a laptop
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[20:13]<@BC_Programming> If the shoe fits, it's a conspiracy
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[23:18]<+Tux2> lol, my laptop is screaming for mercy
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