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[09:08]<@BC_Programming> Oh Nintendo you crazy old dogs you
[09:09]<@BC_Programming> they now own every single Let's Play on youtube for any of their games, and make all the ad revenue that comes from them- percentage to the creator of the video= 0%
[09:17]<@BC_Programming> also, they now apparently own every piece of IP about my Agent Stick video things
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[11:57]<+camerongray> Wow, that's ridiculous!
[11:58]<@BC_Programming> well I had copyright claims on them
[11:58]<@BC_Programming> so I just deleted them
[11:58]<@BC_Programming> but the rest of it is still insane
[11:59]<@BC_Programming> I mean it's retcon-ing probably years of footage of Game Let's Plays over the last- who knows how long
[11:59]<+camerongray> Yeah
[11:59]<@BC_Programming> and now Nintendo jumps in and is all "hey give us the revenue for these videos that don't belong to us"
[11:59]<@BC_Programming> and Youtube was like "OK"
[11:59]<+camerongray> lol!
[12:00]<+camerongray> It's like me making video of the city and the council taking ownership of it
[12:00]<@BC_Programming> indeed
[12:00]<@BC_Programming> the funny part is that this will just stop people from making videos of their stuff in the future
[12:01]<+camerongray> or like a video of my laptop and lenovo taking ownership because it shows their product being used
[12:02]<@BC_Programming> I think they are shooting themselves in the foot with this one though
[12:03]<+camerongray> Yep, lost a lot of free advertising!
[12:03]<+camerongray> As you said, they will make a lot quickly but people will stop in the long run
[12:04]<@BC_Programming> I'm just going to delete the let's plays I do have when they come up
[12:04]<@BC_Programming> thankfully Megaman is safe, since that's not a Megaman Property. Well it's safe from Nintendo, unless Capcom does the same thing I guess
[12:04]<+camerongray> yeah
[12:04]<@BC_Programming> Those are the only LP's I actually finished lol
[12:05]<+camerongray> Lola
[12:05]<+camerongray> grr, stupid phone
[12:05]<@BC_Programming> I deleted my Agent stick things though since they got flagged somehow, probably the audio
[12:05]<+camerongray> like who makes a phone that doesn't understand lol
[12:06]<@BC_Programming> dumb peeps
[12:06]<+camerongray> Google :P
[12:06]<@BC_Programming> well
[12:06]<@BC_Programming> Google did make Go, and Dart, so as far as implementing stupid things go they are probably the World Leader
[12:06]<+camerongray> Woop, added lol to dictionary
[12:07]<@BC_Programming> have you ever seen Google Go? the Language? wow is that ridiculous
[12:07]<@BC_Programming> I mean it was made in 2010 or 2009 or something, at the very least, and yet- no generics
[12:07]<+camerongray> Yeah, but people use it because it's hip and trendy
[12:07]<+camerongray> Like node.js
[12:08]<+camerongray> want vhosts? just install Apache and use it as a proxy
[12:09]<@BC_Programming> http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/t/27871.aspx
[12:09]<@BC_Programming> Go in a nutshell
[12:10]<@BC_Programming> I was going to try to make my anagrams program in Go
[12:10]<@BC_Programming> it didn't Go well, pun not intended
[12:16]<+camerongray> lol
[12:17]<@BC_Programming> like I joked on another forum, where I used something completely how it wasn't designed
[12:18]<@BC_Programming> I said "for my next trick, I will use Go in ways it was never designed for by making a non-trivial, working program in it"
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[12:29]<+camerongray> hey calum
[12:29]<@Calum> hey cameron
[12:30]<+camerongray> Missed case delivery, "We will redeliver on Friday if you don't contact us before" - that gives me plenty time to contact them!
[12:30]<@Calum> hah
[12:31]<@Calum> I scored a good deal on some buffered DDR2 today
[12:31]<+camerongray> Means I have to work from home!
[12:31]<@Calum> well that's not always a bad thing
[12:32]<@Calum> ;)
[12:32]<+camerongray> Nice, how much?
[12:32]<@Calum> £10 for 6 sticks, think it's 4x2gb and 2x1gb, might be the other way around
[12:32]<@Calum> normally it's about £4 for a 1gb stick
[12:32]<+camerongray> nice!
[12:32]<+camerongray> I need 6x4gb for my server :P
[12:32]<@Calum> I don't have anything to use it in right now but it might come in handy
[12:32]<@Calum> heh, if I see any I'll let you know
[12:33]<+camerongray> Being a custom Dell one it only has 6 slots
[12:33]<@Calum> what an odd number
[12:33]<+camerongray> yeah, not sure if its tri channel
[12:33]<+camerongray> wouldn't think so
[12:33]<@Calum> if it's DDR2 it can't be, no memory controller that supports DDR2 does tri channel
[12:34]<@Calum> only X58 and the server equivalent
[12:34]<+camerongray> yeah, not sure then :P
[12:34]<+camerongray> could it be dual?
[12:34]<@Calum> 5502 I think is the server X58
[12:34]<@Calum> yeah, it'll be dual, with flex mode
[12:34]<+camerongray> Ahh
[12:34]<@Calum> which lets you use three dims in dual channel
[12:34]<@Calum> *dimms
[12:34]<+camerongray> Not sure of chipset but its socket 771
[12:35]<@Calum> what cpu did you say you had, was it a l5420 or something?
[12:35]<+camerongray> yeah
[12:35]<+camerongray> pair of them
[12:35]<@Calum> cool
[12:36]<@Calum> sure I saw someone selling some 771 CPUs the other day, can't remember if it was good or not...let me check
[12:36]<+camerongray> Its very similar to the dell c1100 but with a more basic mobo, full ipmi and single PSU
[12:36]<@Calum> ah it was an e5405, not great
[12:37]<@Calum> that's cool
[12:37]<+camerongray> ahh yeah, I went for the L for the low power use
[12:37]<@Calum> yeah, they're nice CPUs those
[12:38]<+camerongray> no idea why they give such low current limits
[12:39]<+camerongray> unless there is something funny with it
[12:39]<@Calum> heh
[12:40]<+camerongray> just need a bit more ram
[12:42]<+camerongray> I could shift some VMs around, unshorten.it has 2gb where it's just a basic LAMP stack
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> hmm reddit is a bit unpredictable
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> http://www.reddit.com/r/csharp/comments/1eta8g/default_constructors_vs_method_overloading/
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> this morning my response had 16 points, now it has 3 WHYYYY
[12:43]<+camerongray> lol
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> I was banned from the minecraft subreddit
[12:44]<@Calum> heh how come?
[12:44]<+camerongray> wow! what did you do?
[12:44]<@BC_Programming> I pointed out that somebody had the artistic skills of a five year old
[12:44]<+camerongray> LOL!
[12:44]<@Calum> that'll do it, lol
[12:44]<@BC_Programming> it was totally true though
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> I mean a creeper should not look like a green splotchy cracker
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> basically they tried to say "my nephew drew this" but it was obvious he drew it himself to try to farm karma
[12:46]<@Calum> lol
[12:47]<@BC_Programming> I've gotten warned on the forums for some of the dumbest reasons, most of the mods are like 12 or something and decide that
[12:47]<@BC_Programming> "HURR he used big words... INFRACTION"
[12:47]<@Calum> sounds familiar
[12:48]<@BC_Programming> oh I remember one infraction I got there, was totally worth it
[12:48]<@BC_Programming> was in one of those classic arguments about religion
[12:48]<@BC_Programming> but this was in the appropriate sub-forum
[12:51]<@BC_Programming> I forget the whole build up but I was basically trying to argue that people make their own moral compass, while they were trying to say that they got all their morals from their Holy Book.... So I pulled the classic "If I could stop a person from raping a child, I would. That's the difference between me and your god."
[12:51]<@BC_Programming> and apparently, I was flaming
[12:51]<@Calum> haha
[12:51]<@BC_Programming> I guess it didn't help that the guy I was arguing with happened to be a mod, in retrospect
[12:52]<@Calum> they're often the hardest arguments to win
[12:52]<@BC_Programming> well I don't think it's possible to win it
[12:52]<@BC_Programming> but it's all about the struggle
[12:52]<@Calum> or "win" I should say...because you can win, but get banned, then it's a phyrric victory
[12:52]<@Calum> if I spelt that right
[12:53]<@Calum> That is a word I never thought I would actually use, I'm proud of myself
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> congratulations
[12:53]<@Calum> oh while we're on the subject of congratulating me...got a PM on CH today, guess what?
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> that was also where somebody tried to pull that thing I think I put on facebook
[12:54]<@BC_Programming> "having an opinion is dangerous, you could become a terrorist"
[12:54]<@Calum> oh the hilarious thing about water?
[12:54]<@Calum> oh right heh
[12:54]<@BC_Programming> "That's an opinion too"
[12:54]<@BC_Programming> I would have liked to see their head explode after reading that
[12:54]<@Calum> hah yeah
[12:54]<@Calum> I remember that
[12:55]<@BC_Programming> I've also been thinking about how the cross is used as a symbol for christianity
[12:55]<@BC_Programming> I mean, if Jesus Christ did come back, I think that is the last thing he'd want to see
[12:56]<@Calum> heh yeah, I've always thought that's a weird one
[12:56]<@BC_Programming> I made somebody give me the hairy eyeball when I said "t huh... I've always been a q man myself"
[12:57]<@Calum> hah
[12:57]<@Calum> It totally didn't take me that long to work it out...
[12:57]<@Calum> ok maybe it did
[12:57]<@BC_Programming> "you wanna fight a holy war over our favourite letters?"
[13:18]<@Calum> are out of date crisps/chips going to kill me?
[13:18]<@BC_Programming> probably not
[13:19]<@Calum> "probably"...that's reassuring. I thought the same
[13:19]<@BC_Programming> well
[13:19]<@BC_Programming> I ate canned soup
[13:19]<@BC_Programming> about a month ago
[13:19]<@BC_Programming> expiry date?
[13:19]<@BC_Programming> February 2008
[13:19]<@Calum> wow
[13:19]<@Calum> what kind of soup was it?
[13:19]<@BC_Programming> Chicken Noodle
[13:19]<@Calum> interesting
[13:20]<@BC_Programming> it did come out in an atypical lump
[13:20]<@BC_Programming> but it didn't taste any different, canned stuff like lasts forever
[13:21]<@Calum> fair enough
[13:21]<@BC_Programming> for chips/crisps I really would only expect it to be possible they went stale, but if they aren't open I doubt that too
[13:21]<@BC_Programming> I've had chips/crisps that were a month or so out of date before too
[13:21]<@Calum> that's about what I figured, these are only about a month out
[13:22]<@BC_Programming> place had extra stock that was like a month past their best before and they were something like 3 big bags for a dollar or something at the time
[13:22]<@BC_Programming> I got as many as I could carry heheh
[13:22]<@Calum> hah, that's similar to me - nowhere sells this one flavour any more, so I bought like 6 bags
[13:22]<@BC_Programming> what flavour?
[13:23]<@Calum> dotiro japaleno fire
[13:23]<@Calum> *Dorito even
[13:23]<@Calum> I swear my typing is getting worse
[13:23]<@BC_Programming> ahh... I think corn chips last even longer actually
[13:23]<@Calum> sweet
[13:24]<@BC_Programming> though IMO if they are still in the bag and sealed they are fair game as long as when you open it bats don't fly out or something
[13:24]<@Calum> heh
[13:24]<@Calum> good advice
[13:24]<@BC_Programming> yes bats would be cause for concern
[13:24]<@Calum> there's not many situations where they would be good, or even acceptable
[13:24]<@BC_Programming> Wool warehouses
[13:25]<@BC_Programming> protect them from moths lol
[13:25]<@Calum> lol
[13:25]<@BC_Programming> one thing I would have liked for a chip flavour
[13:25]<@BC_Programming> they have regular
[13:26]<@BC_Programming> and they have low sodium
[13:26]<@BC_Programming> where is the double salt
[13:26]<@BC_Programming> "300% MORE SALT"
[13:26]<@Calum> heh yeah
[13:26]<@BC_Programming> I'd get that :P
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> and they have "low fat" chips
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> I'm not eating chips to lose weight
[13:27]<@Calum> lol exactly
[13:28]<@BC_Programming> I actually looked at the nutrition facts
[13:28]<@BC_Programming> "ahh, good, 60% of the daily recommended intake of Saturated fats, and that's per 200g, so the entire bag will be two days worth"
[13:28]<@BC_Programming> doing the opposite of what most people do lol
[13:29]<@Calum> haha
[13:29]<@Calum> I do that with energy drinks...so, this is 500% of my recommended vitamins, nice
[13:29]<@Calum> must be good for me
[13:29]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[13:29]<@BC_Programming> yeah when I was working I must have drank like 50$ worth a week or something of those things
[13:30]<@Calum> I had a serious, and expensive, addiction to Relentless in college
[13:30]<@BC_Programming> I mean it was a overnight shift so it kinda made sense but most of the time I didn't really need them
[13:30]<@Calum> yeah, me neither, I just love the taste lol
[13:30]<@BC_Programming> and Coffee/Tea was free there so I could have easily saved money... but nope instead I pumped like 1000mg of caffeine in me over an hour
[13:31]<@Calum> caffeine, guarana, etc really don't affect me
[13:31]<@BC_Programming> yeah I didn't notice any extra pep
[13:32]<@BC_Programming> I think it's hilarious that the place I quit is still looking for a person to fill the shift I was on
[13:33]<@BC_Programming> no surprise given their turnover rate
[13:33]<@Calum> heh
[13:34]<@BC_Programming> arguably I would work there again, but yeah given some of the things I said I don't think that's going to happen
[13:35]<@Calum> what did you say?
[13:35]<@BC_Programming> well actually I didn't say anything
[13:35]<@BC_Programming> I think I told you this story no?
[13:36]<@Calum> possibly...if so I may have forgotten at least the finer details
[13:36]<@BC_Programming> they re-hired somebody who had been fired twice for constantly not showing up... put them on the shift I was on which only had two other people
[13:37]<@BC_Programming> on a Saturday Night he simply didn't show up
[13:37]<@BC_Programming> no phone call... nothing
[13:37]<@BC_Programming> and it was just me
[13:37]<@BC_Programming> So basically I would have had to deal with StoreFront, Drive Thru, baking every single item, breakfast stuff... then at 5AM we got a Truck Delivery for the Freezer and Cooler
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> around 2AM I decided it wasn't worth it and just left; I of course left things presentable and didn't leave anything unlocked or anything
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> You'd think that would send some sort of message
[13:38]<@Calum> fair enough
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> "hmm, this guy that has worked here for 5 years and has never missed a shift or been more than a few minutes late at most just left"
[13:40]<@Calum> yeah
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> in retrospect $11.50 wasn't that bad a wage at all
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> now it's just a case of trying to find something more computerey
[13:42]<@Calum> hindsight is always perfect heh. At least you've got some good skills and knowledge
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> yeah, if I hadn't left I probably wouldn't have ended up getting a MVP Award so there is that
[13:43]<@Calum> indeed
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> of course it would help if those came with $50,000
[13:43]<@BC_Programming> I mean come on MS can totally afford that
[13:44]<@Calum> heh yep
[13:44]<@BC_Programming> here's hoping I get re-awarded in July :D then I'll get another sweet trophy
[13:44]<@Calum> :)
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[13:46]<@BC_Programming> bahaha! just went to FreeLancer.com... this definitely tells us a lot, right at the top "Look out for freelancers who pass the
[13:46]<@BC_Programming> US English - Level 1 exam. "
[13:49]<@Calum> nice lol
[13:56]<@Calum> right, I'm off for tonight...have a good one, all, catch you later
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[14:03]<@BC_Programming> couldn't stay away
[14:03]<@Calum> I just remembered that I forgot to ask something
[14:03]<@Calum> heh
[14:03]<@Calum> I just wanted to ask your thoughts on "Allan" from CH
[14:04]<@BC_Programming> Personally I'm more or less indifferent
[14:04]<@Calum> fair enough, no strong feelings either way then
[14:04]<@BC_Programming> Any threads I should see for context?
[14:05]<@Calum> Nope, just in general...he wasn't even a member when I was last active much
[14:05]<@BC_Programming> ahhh yes that's right
[14:05]<@Calum> I remember when I had a small burst of activity, he and Raptor clashed a few times, that's when I saw he was a mod
[14:05]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[14:06]<@Calum> I was just curious because he sent me a PM welcoming me back to the forums, and at first I was like "who are you?"
[14:06]<@Calum> then today he asked if I would like to be a mod again
[14:06]<@BC_Programming> Personally I like him, Mulreay hates him though
[14:06]<@Calum> heh really? How come?
[14:07]<@BC_Programming> You'd have to ask him, I don't think I'd make it seem fair
[14:08]<@Calum> hm fair enough, I'll have to search back through the forum as well and try to catch up on things
[14:08]<@BC_Programming> From my perspective Allan deletes his posts when he has a fit and doesn't hold back issuing warnings and putting members into 'Moderation' so mods have to approve posts
[14:08]<@Calum> oh, they can do that now?
[14:08]<@BC_Programming> but there is more to it that I don't remember
[14:08]<@BC_Programming> yep
[14:08]<@Calum> that would've been nice to have 4 years ago, lol
[14:09]<@Calum> can they ban, or is that still admin-only?
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> I think I've clashed with Allan myself once or twice, though I forget the details
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> I <think> that is still admin only
[14:09]<@Calum> fair enough
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> I wouldn't know though, not being a mod myself :P
[14:09]<@Calum> lol
[14:09]<@Calum> I may be shortly :P
[14:10]<@Calum> how long it will last this time...who knows...partly why I was asking about Allan
[14:10]<@Calum> interestingly he said only he and patio are active mods right now, I thought I saw Carbon still lurking around...though posting doesn't mean he's actually contributing or moderating I guess
[14:11]<@BC_Programming> I hardly ever see Carbon
[14:11]<@BC_Programming> Patio and Allan I see pretty much constantly
[14:11]<@Calum> No, he doesn't post much actually, you're right - must be because he replied to a thread of mine, I just thought ht was still active
[14:11]<@BC_Programming> And SuperDave but I'm not sure if he has mod powers across the board or what
[14:12]<@Calum> yeah that confused me too, I have no idea whether he does, I know back in the day malware specialists had limited mod powers on only one board, though I'm fairly sure for a while they had some powers outside that board
[14:12]<@Calum> the details are fuzzy, been a while
[14:13]<@Calum> I can remember arguing against Carbon being given mod status though
[14:13]<@BC_Programming> Don't remember seeing EvilFantasy since around last July, around the time I posted that I was nominated as an MVP and he said not to get my hopes up because it was almost certainly somebody making a troll nomination that would not go through... maybe he slunk away in shame when I ended up getting it
[14:13]<@BC_Programming> And Zylstra! remember that thread he actually made about whether he should be a Moderator? I mean really who does that
[14:13]<@Calum> I don't actually remember that
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> maybe it was before you I dunno
[14:14]<@BC_Programming> it was before me, I just stumbled on it in a forum search at some point
[14:14]<@Calum> I know a LOT of the mods aren't active any more though, which is kind of sad
[14:14]<@Calum> hm I'll have to look that up then
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,23556.0.html
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> 2006, Wow
[14:15]<@Calum> that was a few months before I joined
[14:15]<@BC_Programming> was wrong though he didn't actually start the thread
[14:15]<@Calum> did you speak to Zylstra much?
[14:16]<@BC_Programming> honestly I thought he was annoying
[14:16]<@Calum> he was a little bit odd. I liked him when I joined, but slowly changed my mind
[14:16]<@Calum> he was quite annoying when it came to chat actually
[14:16]<@Calum> I remember having a discussion with him when we first implemented a bot in the CH channel
[14:16]<@BC_Programming> Yes I think that was it, the stuff about Oz or whatever
[14:17]<@Calum> heh yep
[14:17]<@Calum> if I remember, he didn't like that Oz would de-op and kick ops for messing around with him
[14:18]<@BC_Programming> oh I know what it was! His help screamed "I just googled it and dropped a few links with filler text to make it seem like I know what I'm doing"
[14:19]<@Calum> haha
[14:19]<@Calum> man that thread you posted...he really doesn't come off well in there
[14:19]<@BC_Programming> and I remember when he "reappeared" for a brief period his first act was to basically criticize everybody on the forum in Don's
[14:20]<@Calum> I don't know a lot of the CH history from before I joined, so I had figured he'd been a mod for a while
[14:20]<@BC_Programming> I have to find that one too... I seem to remember giving him a good wall o' text
[14:20]<@Calum> yeah I think I remember that
[14:20]<@BC_Programming> ahh here it is
[14:20]<@BC_Programming> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,132039.0.html
[14:21]<@BC_Programming> hmm it wasn't a wall of text at all, but three lines. That's not typical at all
[14:21]<@Calum> a good three lines though
[14:21]<@Calum> I think you said what needed to be said
[14:21]<@BC_Programming> I still lol'd reading it today heh
[14:22]<@Calum> heh
[14:22]<@Calum> anyway I should probably get going now, just wanted a brief chat about Allan and moderatorship...be interesting to see what the morrow brings
[14:23]<@BC_Programming> kk
[14:23]<@Calum> I wonder if there are any discussions about me in the mod board, or if I'm just being egotistical
[14:23]<@Calum> anyway, to bed. Night :)
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[17:05]<+Craig> ... mail.brokedcomputer.ca doesnt work :P oops.
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[18:20]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: Just so you know you made a bit of an oopsie: http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,137070.msg880344.html#msg880344 - Incase you want to fix, you know what some people are like
[18:20]<+camerongray> "whether you use yum or sudo" -> "whether you use yum or apt"
[19:32]<+Craig> Woot, Cameron, BC, and Mulreay, I have finally made my first SSL certificate, and its recognized by Google Chrome. :) And my site uses SSL ! :)
[19:32]<jamer> Smooth craig
[19:33]<+Craig> Thanks,
[19:33]<+Craig> uhhh, who are you?
[19:33]<jamer> Lucifer
[19:33]<+Craig> Ahhh Hi Jamer, what did you change your name for? Get sick of me calling you John?
[19:34]<jamer> Nah ... just wanres to change
[19:34]<+Craig> Ahh,.
[19:35]<+Craig> What are you up to?
[19:35]<jamer> Talking with this one girl, you?
[19:36]<+Craig> Uhh I am a guy
[19:37]<jamer> Theres a comma there craig XD
[19:37]<jamer> So what are you up to also craig
[19:37]<+Craig> :P I saw the comma, but your statement could have been written I am chatting with a girl on another setup,
[19:38]<+Craig> that would leave no area for confusion :P
[19:38]<+Craig> Jk, I did understand. :P
[19:38]<+Craig> I am just trying to get Bittorrent sync to use SSL, and also have a username and password on the main page.
[19:39]<jamer> I cant help uou there but I can interest you in light convo to ease your mind off of it XD
[19:40]<+Craig> You should download and setup bittorrent sync, and we should share some files. :)
[19:40]<jamer> Sure ... I dont have school to deal with tomorrow
[19:41]<+Craig> :P
[19:41]<+Craig> labs.bittorrent.com
[19:42]<jamer> Atm im on mobile but my desktop is starting
[19:42]<+Craig> ahh
[19:43]<jamer> Booted up now
[19:44]<jamer> I wish I had an ssd
[19:44]<+Craig> :P hehehe, I have an SSD in my main computer, and in my laptop, my XBMC box, and my server, :P
[19:45]<jamer> Lol
[19:45]<+Craig> Athough my Servers RAID is all 3TB drives, so no SSD's in there.
[19:45]<jamer> That's alot of storage
[19:46]<+Craig> Yeah 8.19TB :>
[19:51]<jamer> Whats the I have a secret thing
[19:51]<jamer> craig?
[19:52]<+Craig> just start normally.
[19:53]<jamer> Its set up
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[19:53]<lucifer> ok this is my desktop while jamer is my mobile
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[19:54]<+Craig> give me a moment, I am setting up my settings for Bitsync again, I am setting up a user name and password. :P
[19:54]<lucifer1> ok
[19:55]<lucifer1> see the bittorrent live ans so share
[19:56]<lucifer1> seen?
[19:57]<+Craig> Yeah, looked at them, signed up for live, but nothing yet
[19:58]<lucifer1> ok
[20:01]<lucifer1> you wanna know something sad ... my car is worth more than all i have
[20:02]<+Craig> ?
[20:02]<lucifer1> my car is an 88 mazda rx7 convertible .... and its worth close to 15K
[20:03]<lucifer1> my stuff i own would probably end up close to 500 dollars
[20:04]<+Craig> Well, I
[20:05]<+Craig> I've setup the password, and it did ask for it, however its not loading just yet...?
[20:05]<@BC_Programming> watcha doin
[20:05]<+Craig> Ohhh now its running
[20:05]<+Craig> Hey BC!
[20:05]<+Craig> Were playing with Bittorrent Sync
[20:05]<@BC_Programming> hey Craig
[20:06]<lucifer1> so anyone ever play vega strike?
[20:06]<+Craig> Not I
[20:07]<lucifer1> its like a space simulator
[20:07]<+Craig> Interesting
[20:14]<+Craig> So what access would you like there Jamer?
[20:14]<lucifer1> doesnt matter
[20:14]<lucifer1> im not gonna store huge files XD
[20:14]<+Craig> Well you could backup your life to my server :p
[20:15]<lucifer1> yeah but my internet wouldnt support it XD
[20:16]<+Craig> Thats the great thing, Bittorrent sync sends 4MB file parts,
[20:16]<+Craig> so no matter how large, it will always eventually get there.
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[20:16]<lucifer1> eventually XD
[20:16]<+Craig> HOLY CRAP my profile back up on the server is 97GB!
[20:16]<+Craig> .... I need to delete some old crap...
[20:17]<lucifer1> ive only got 116 gb free of 298 XD
[20:17]<+Craig> On both of my computers I have over 3TB free
[20:18]<lucifer1> though you have more hard drive space XD
[20:18]<+Craig> Not sure why you said that, its the same as what I said... ?
[20:19]<lucifer1> overall you have more space to store stuff .... i dont
[20:19]<+Craig> Ahh :p
[20:20]<+Craig> I could give you FTP access to a folder for yourself.
[20:20]<+Craig> You could have 500GB free if you need it
[20:21]<lucifer1> eh ... personally i could deal with 5 gb max ... i dont need to save my game files im worried about the projects i work on
[20:22]<lucifer1> im not joking XD
[20:23]<+Craig> Sure if you want it
[20:23]<+Craig> FTP, or webbased access?>
[20:23]<+Craig> and do you want to use Sync or something else?
[20:24]<lucifer1> sync is perfectly fine
[20:27]<+Craig> What are you backing up to there?
[20:29]<@BC_Programming> I saw a bug report for Go this morning
[20:29]<@BC_Programming> there was some discourse, and the reporter said "I think we should aim to make Go a powerful and easy to use language"
[20:29]<@BC_Programming> and one of the maintainers said "Those are not consistent with our goals for the language"
[20:29]<lucifer1> craig mostly projects that i know i would loose with flashdrives
[20:29]<@BC_Programming> So I guess they are aiming to make a weak and hard to use language...
[20:32]<+Craig> Hahahahah nice BC,
[20:32]<+Craig> Cool there Jammer
[20:32]<+Craig> Wow... really Jammer, 200kb...
[20:33]<+Craig> :P
[20:33]<lucifer1> its a blank folder for now XD
[20:33]<+Craig> Hey BC, did you see that I now have HTTPS on my webserver?
[20:33]<+Craig> :P hahaha oh ok Jammer
[20:35]<@BC_Programming> can't sya that I did
[20:35]<@BC_Programming> did you guys here how Nintendo shot themselves in the foot?
[20:35]<+Craig> www.brokedcomputer.com
[20:35]<+Craig> NO! What did they do/
[20:36]<@BC_Programming> They became a "youtube partner" and basically took 100% posession of every single Let's play video of a Nintendo game on youtube
[20:36]<+Craig> WOW Utter crap/.
[20:36]<+Craig> Thats retarded.
[20:36]<@BC_Programming> that is those people that make let's plays for a living will have to steer clear of Nintendo games, since it will content ID match and siphon 100% of the ad revenue to Nintendo
[20:37]<@BC_Programming> I say "shot themselves in the foot" because people are just going to not showcase the games on youtube anymore
[20:37]<+Craig> Your not kidding
[20:38]<@BC_Programming> I know because about a dozen of my videos suddenly content matched
[20:38]<@BC_Programming> including my Flash Cartoon which happens to use a few Nintendo Music clips
[20:39]<+Craig> Really? thats crap
[20:39]<@BC_Programming> I can't imagine how much it sucks for the people that have actually been making a living off their youtube ad revenue
[20:39]<lucifer1> there craig :P
[20:40]<@BC_Programming> well the ones that use Nintendo games, at least. Thankfully my longest LP's are Megaman 6 and Megaman X and neither of those are Nintendo Property so they should be safe
[20:40]<+Craig> Hasent updated yet, needs to index :P
[20:41]<lucifer1> indexing XD
[20:41]<+Craig> Be leery, adding too many files or folders can cause HUGE ram usage :p
[20:42]<lucifer1> its a smaller unity file that ive been working on here and there
[20:42]<+Craig> Ahh fair enough
[20:43]<lucifer1> ive got 2 gigs of ram btw
[20:45]<+Craig> I have 32, whats your point
[20:45]<@BC_Programming> Craig was talking about server RAM usage I'm fairly sure
[20:45]<lucifer1> true XD
[20:45]<lucifer1> i have no comparison craig XD
[21:31]<+Craig> :P
[21:31]<+Craig> Sorry had to VERY quickly get an SSD from the store.
[21:32]<+Craig> Hey BC, you need any backup space?
[21:32]<@BC_Programming> not atm
[21:32]<lucifer1> its fine craig XD
[21:33]<+Craig> :P
[21:33]<lucifer1> though i broke a guitar string while you were gone
[21:34]<+Craig> That sucks
[21:34]<lucifer1> they wear out
[21:35]<lucifer1> O.o i might want to stack up on strings
[21:36]<+Craig> :P
[21:36]<lucifer1> $7.30 for 3 set pack and its normally 16 dollars for it
[21:39]<+Craig> Cool, sounds like a good deal
[21:39]<lucifer1> it is
[21:40]<+Craig> BitSync on my machine is indexing, HUGE amounts of files right now, it was up to 1GB ram used, its down to 600MB now
[21:40]<lucifer1> smooth
[21:41]<+Craig> Thats an interesting saying, "smooth"...
[21:47]<+Craig> Why would you ever install a 5400RPM drive in a Windows 7 machine?
[21:48]<@BC_Programming> my laptop has a 5400RPM drive
[21:48]<lucifer1> are you talking to me?
[21:48]<+Craig> Anyone really, :P
[21:48]<lucifer1> i have a 5400 rpm drive
[21:48]<+Craig> I am just saying with all the technology, I would rather have a small UBER fast drive than a slow Huge drive.
[21:48]<+Craig> Yes but how new are your machines?
[21:49]<lucifer1> not exactly
[21:49]<lucifer1> i built this computer for under $100
[21:50]<+Craig> Wow, thats pretty good,
[21:50]<+Craig> I think in total over 5 years my computers have been upgraded from 600$ machines to 3500$ machines,.
[21:51]<+Craig> I had 4, now I am down to 2, plus a media machine which was built specifically, and only upgraded with an SSD so it would restart fast if it froze. :
[21:51]<+Craig> :P
[21:51]<lucifer1> used parts but it ends up being $65 besides the mouse keyboard and screen
[21:51]<+Craig> :P
[21:51]<lucifer1> hey ... its dual core!
[21:51]<+Craig> Nice
[21:51]<+Craig> My main server is a dual core,
[21:51]<+Craig> my main computer is a 8 core,
[21:51]<+Craig> my media machine is a 6 core... :p
[21:52]<lucifer1> XD
[21:52]<+Craig> Heh, Jamer, we're up to 12.8MB on your share. :P
[21:53]<lucifer1> i said ild use maybe 5 gb max XD
[21:54]<lucifer1> Summary Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit SP1 CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 64 °C Manchester 90nm Technology RAM 2.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR @ 123MHz (2-3-3-6) Motherboard MSI 09AC (Socket 939) 27 °C Graphics 776 (1280x1024@60Hz) 512MB GeForce 8400GS (nVidia) 36 °C Hard Drives 298GB Western Digital WDC WD32 00B
[21:54]<+Craig> :P Its also not done indexing I think
[21:54]<+Craig> Cause my side hasn't updated.
[21:54]<+Craig> Still says 56KB to load
[21:54]<lucifer1> its indexed here XD
[21:54]<+Craig> Oh heh ok
[21:55]<@BC_Programming> GriefPrevention has world-specific configurations now :D
[21:55]<+Craig> Nice
[21:55]<lucifer1> btw yes craig thats ddr1 ram XD
[21:55]<@BC_Programming> worked like 6 hours on that last night lol
[21:55]<+Craig> HEHEHEHE nice jamer
[21:55]<+Craig> Crazy BC, why did you add that?
[21:56]<@BC_Programming> because people were asking for it and IMO the way the configuration was setup was stupid
[21:56]<lucifer1> and craig ... i can put 4 gb if i need it XD
[21:56]<@BC_Programming> I mean there is no reason an admin shouldn't be able to say that "in this world, people can have X claims. But in this one they can only have Y"
[21:56]<+Craig> Interesting BC, cool of you to add that for them
[21:56]<+Craig> Nice Jammer
[21:56]<@BC_Programming> them?
[21:56]<+Craig> the people asking for it
[21:57]<@BC_Programming> ahh
[21:57]<@BC_Programming> the way it was was gross too... hated working with public fields
[21:57]<+Craig> 5 3TB drives, think that is enough?
[21:58]<+Craig> What are Public Fields?
[21:58]<@BC_Programming> Variables accessible outside an object
[21:58]<+Craig> Ahh
[21:58]<+Craig> Its Very warm in my office...
[21:59]<@BC_Programming> with Java you are supposed to avoid Public fields and instead use Accessor methods. Because they were public fields they were part of the API that some other plugins use
[21:59]<+Craig> Ahhh
[21:59]<lucifer1> http://mibpaste.com/805OxJ
[21:59]<lucifer1> ^ gpu info
[21:59]<lucifer1> its not a 8400gs XD
[21:59]<@BC_Programming> I don't know how many, but we figured that we may as well break it once for long term maintainability and configurability
[21:59]<+Craig> Ahhh makes sense
[22:00]<+Craig> I just upgraded my customer reinstall/testing flashdrive to USB3 :) woot
[22:00]<@BC_Programming> dynmap still works as far as I can tell, as well as a few other plugins, so I don't think many plugins use those public fields. If they did it should be easy to port for the next release anyway
[22:00]<+Craig> I love Dynmap!
[22:00]<+Craig> I think its awesome
[22:01]<@BC_Programming> or rather the Dynmap-GriefPrevention plugin
[22:01]<@BC_Programming> the one that shows claims in Dynmap that is
[22:01]<@BC_Programming> I was spitballing with tux about a hilarious feature idea
[22:01]<@BC_Programming> there are some people asking for a way to prevent withers from being made inside claims
[22:02]<@BC_Programming> so I was thinking, an option so that if somebody makes a wither in somebody elses claim, nothing happens... but in addition to that
[22:02]<@BC_Programming> after five minutes, a wither spawns right next to them
[22:02]<@BC_Programming> so they'll try to make one, nothing happens, go "aww, oh well" go home... then get a Visitor
[22:02]<+Craig> BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
[22:02]<+Craig> That would be freaking awesome
[22:02]<+Craig> Or find their claim and put one there.
[22:02]<@BC_Programming> I was thinking "GriefPrevention.PunishWitherGriefers" as the option lol
[22:02]<+Craig> BAHAHAHA that would be SO mean
[22:03]<+Craig> :P
[22:03]<@BC_Programming> it's possible to have multiple claims though
[22:03]<@BC_Programming> It's funny because it doesn't "make" a wither out of nowhere, since that person will have used the heads and sand already heheh
[22:03]<+Craig> True
[22:04]<@BC_Programming> I can already see the complaints "OMG I tried to make a wither and it didn't work :/"
[22:04]<@BC_Programming> five minutes later "HALP"
[22:04]<+Craig> You are almost crewel BC. :P
[22:05]<@BC_Programming> it may be called GriefPrevention but I see no reason not to add GriefPunishment
[22:05]<lucifer1> hes a puppy compared to my algebra 2 teacher
[22:06]<lucifer1> my teacher decide on the last week of school to assaign 30 problems a night
[22:06]<@BC_Programming> and?
[22:06]<+Craig> Umm how old are you there Jammer?
[22:06]<lucifer1> 16 craig
[22:06]<+Craig> Ahhh Makes sense
[22:06]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[22:07]<lucifer1> BC_Programming we have exams
[22:07]<@BC_Programming> so your teacher decided on the last week of school to assign 30 problems a night and you had exams
[22:07]<+Craig> Why are you having exams at night?
[22:07]<@BC_Programming> lol
[22:08]<lucifer1> exams during school
[22:08]<+Craig> jk :P
[22:08]<@BC_Programming> 30 problems seems like maybe a half hour, especially algebra
[22:08]<+Craig> Muhahahahah and I made it in before the correction! :P
[22:08]<+Craig> Yeah, thats not that many
[22:08]<+Craig> What grade is that, 10/11?
[22:08]<+Craig> Simple stuff.
[22:08]<@BC_Programming> I mean, calculus or synthetic division problems that would take quite a bit longer
[22:09]<@BC_Programming> I recall covering Algebra in grade 7 and 8
[22:09]<jamer> Were doing pre-cal stuff
[22:09]<@BC_Programming> you said algebra
[22:09]<jamer> Algebra 2 teacher ... we go up to next class level
[22:09]<@BC_Programming> Precalculus in the US is Algebra 3
[22:10]<@BC_Programming> Wow looking at it it's actually pretty amazing how far behind some U.S cirricula is compared to Canada
[22:10]<jamer> Im taking all my math easily by a year
[22:11]<jamer> Ill be a junior taking senior math classes
[22:11]<@BC_Programming> will you still be complaining about it here though
[22:11]<jamer> Nah ... different teacher
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[22:13]<jamer> I took my algebra 1 in 8th grade my geometry my freshman year then this year I just completed was algebra 2 next is precal then I could do calculus
[22:14]<jamer> Its alot of math
[22:15]<@BC_Programming> wow it's a good thing you told me, now I can be prepared for what I did 8 years ago :P
[22:16]<jamer> Lol
[22:17]<jamer> Ironically u think my teacher tried to faik my exam score
[22:17]<@BC_Programming> No I don't
[22:18]<+Craig> ?? Thats an interesting assumption?
[22:18]<jamer> I ... im using the touch screen keyboaed XD
[22:19]<+Craig> ahhh
[22:19]<+Craig> You mean't I then
[22:19]<jamer> Yeah
[22:26]<+Craig> I am now installing Chrome Beta
[22:27]<+Craig> For the Enhanced features :P
[22:32]<Nat> i use Firefox, i used to use Chrome, but its gotten way too bloated. which speaks volumes since i switched to Firefox
[22:33]<Nat> somebody needs to make a browser that's just a rendering engine and some basic navigation
[22:33]<Nat> everything else is plugin based
[22:33]<@BC_Programming> All the browsers suck more than they should
[22:33]<+Craig> Too True BC
[22:33]<Nat> but that's just me being an ignorant fool
[22:33]<@BC_Programming> I mean why does Firefox use more RAM than any other program I havbe
[22:33]<@BC_Programming> have*
[22:33]<Nat> Javascript
[22:33]<@BC_Programming> I have VISUAL STUDIO with my entire project open and like 3 giant add-ons and it's using half as much memory as FF
[22:35]<+Craig> :P
[22:35]<+Craig> I don't care how much ram a program uses. :p
[22:36]<@BC_Programming> then you are part of the problem, if you think about it
[22:36]<+Craig> I have 32GB, what do I need the extra for? It was on sale, thats why
[22:36]<+Craig> :P
[22:37]<@BC_Programming> I mean it's a web browser... we had Web browsers that worked reasonably with 4MB of Memory 20 years ago, and browsers have not come far enough along to justify them bogging down something with four times as many cores running at 100 times the speed and with over 1000 times the memory as machines then
[22:37]<+Craig> So write your own?
[22:38]<@BC_Programming> I did, pretty much. I wrote a HTML/CSS parser for BASeBlock tooltips
[22:38]<+Craig> Cool,
[22:38]<+Craig> And how does it work?
[22:38]<@BC_Programming> by parsing HTML and CSS
[22:40]<+Craig> ....
[22:40]<+Craig> I mean how well does it work?
[22:40]<@BC_Programming> It's used for tooltips. I haven't used it for websites so I have no idea
[22:42]<@BC_Programming> but "write your own" is just ridiculous. We've got 20+ years and we have several browsers to choose from, and they all suffer from many of the same issues. I'm not smarter than the people working on either Google Chrome or Firefox or IE, I just think the thing is they aren't working towards the correct goals
[22:42]<@BC_Programming> take Firefox as an example, a lot of the UI changes they made don't make browsing easier but seem to be dedicated to just making it look different
[22:43]<@BC_Programming> I mean it looks nice, but, did putting that Firefox button in the top left make browsing 'more effective' as it was claimed? I highly doubt it :P
[22:44]<+Craig> Heh, :P
[22:44]<+Craig> I see what you are saying, and I agree,
[22:44]<@BC_Programming> Actually on that note, Opera is actually seeming to be more lightweight than I thought
[22:46]<@BC_Programming> stol ~200MB of memory usage but that's not something to be concerned about like Firefox's 2GB.. I may have to give it a go as my goto browser for a bit
[22:46]<@BC_Programming> Also ironically I tried to go to about:memory in Firefox and the script stopped responding lol
[22:47]<@BC_Programming> apparently 80% of the memory it has committed is for Javascript stuff, interesting
[22:49]<Nat> Opera has always been my favorite underdog
[22:49]<Nat> and as i said Javascript
[23:49] * Nat (natman97@mib-642FCA28.socal.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: All good things must come to an end. In fact so do the bad things. In fact everything will end eventually.)