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[07:27]<+camerongray> Hey jacky
[07:27]<@jacky> camerongray: Hello
[07:30]<+camerongray> How's everything?
[07:31]<+camerongray> jacky? :P
[07:32]<@jacky> sorry... was emailing
[07:32]<@jacky> doing ok... nothing special
[07:32]<+camerongray> ahh, lol
[07:32]<@jacky> finally! today, it is supposed to get warm
[07:32]<@jacky> 70-ish
[07:32]<+camerongray> Nice, it's warm-ish here
[07:32]<+camerongray> Might open the window to get some fresh air in
[07:33]<@jacky> we've been 10 to 20 degress BELOW average. I think average for today is upper 60something
[07:33]<+camerongray> Ahh
[07:33]<@jacky> heck... one TV station is pushing it... and claiming we might hit 80 on Wed
[07:33]<@jacky> hehehe
[07:33]<+camerongray> It was really nice a couple of days ago but I was at a hackathon so didn't really get to enjoy it much :P
[07:34]<@jacky> you've told me what that is, and I've forgotten exactly.
[07:34]<@jacky> but
[07:34]<@jacky> classic example... staying indoor, instead of getting out
[07:34]<+camerongray> lol
[07:34]<+camerongray> Basically, go and stay awake for over 24 hours programming
[07:34]<+camerongray> This time it was run by Amazon
[07:35]<@jacky> now see... if you could do that while doing something out-doors-y , like fishing.... then you'd have it all
[07:35]<@jacky> heh
[07:35]<+camerongray> hehehe
[07:35]<+camerongray> Took a while but we got them to acutally open the curtains so we could pretend to be outside
[07:35]<@jacky> har
[07:35]<+camerongray> This was our table half way through: http://t.co/iOroo8Nc4a
[07:36]<@jacky> seriously, I'd think that they would do better, if they held those sorts of things between December and March
[07:36]<@jacky> what's the guy with the fingers doing?
[07:36]<@jacky> holding his hand up, like that
[07:36]<+camerongray> hehehe, was trying to make a "gangster sign" without me noticing, I didn't ;P
[07:37]<+camerongray> Do you think we had enough screens? :P
[07:37]<@jacky> is that an attempt to be cool? or... just what was his purpose?
[07:37]<@jacky> screens = laptops?
[07:37]<+camerongray> lol, just to do something daft in the photo without being noticed
[07:38]<@jacky> if so... , there seems to be a dozen or more. heheeh
[07:38]<+camerongray> Laptops and external monitors
[07:38]<+camerongray> Yeah, the two thinkpads each have an external monitor
[07:38]<@jacky> are all those comptures on the same network?
[07:38]<@jacky> ah yes.. I see some ext monitors now
[07:38]<+camerongray> And even that wasn't enough for me so I had my MacBook sitting on a chair next to me which spent most of its time displaying that image
[07:38]<@jacky> heh
[07:39]<+camerongray> Yeah, the Uni's public LAN with 100mbps connection
[07:39]<@jacky> do you have gangs in Scotland?
[07:39]<+camerongray> Nah :P
[07:39]<@jacky> it just looks strange to me... anything to do with gangs, and everybody is 100% white
[07:39]<@jacky> hehehe
[07:39]<+camerongray> Yeah :P - Noone there was really the gang type
[07:39]<+camerongray> I think we were the only team to actually upgrade our network
[07:40]<@jacky> I guess you have different problems in your country.... we all have our problems.... sigh
[07:40]<+camerongray> We were supplied with a 10/100 hub that we upgraded to a gigabit switch
[07:40]<@jacky> how many on a team?
[07:40]<+camerongray> We had 4 but could be any number
[07:40]<@jacky> and... did you do that just to be cool? I mean... you were not moving massive amounts of data, were you?
[07:40]<+camerongray> We were building a file upload system so we were a bit :P
[07:41]<+camerongray> The upgrade more than doubled the speed
[07:41]<@jacky> so when you tested, you wanted to test quick. I got it.
[07:41]<+camerongray> I was using the leftmost laptops, the guy using the one on the right left to go to a club part way through
[07:41]<@jacky> so... did you win?
[07:41]<+camerongray> Then came back and had to write a complex video transoding system
[07:42]<+camerongray> Nah, a lot more experienced teams there
[07:42]<@jacky> heh
[07:42]<@jacky> what do they win?
[07:42]<+camerongray> Amazon Web Services credit
[07:42]<@jacky> how does it work?.... at start time is when a team learns what its project is?
[07:42]<@jacky> what does that do for you? a Web Services credit?
[07:42]<+camerongray> You are told roughly what to do which in this case was build something using amazon web services
[07:43]<+camerongray> Your team then decides on a project
[07:43]<+camerongray> Yeah, this is the result of trying to write a video transcoding system after clubbing: http://t.co/jZAweqyYeC
[07:43]<+camerongray> Amazingly, he got it working
[07:43]<@jacky> but doesn't that allow for a team to arrive, with the project already mostly completed? giving them an advantage?
[07:44]<+camerongray> You can have an idea beforehand yes but they don't allow code to be brought in
[07:44]<@jacky> oh come on... nobody snuck in a flash drive??
[07:44]<@jacky> heheh
[07:44]<+camerongray> You have to use source control so they can see what code was submitted and when
[07:44]<@jacky> what is source control?
[07:45]<+camerongray> A way to upload changes to code so you can see who made what changes to what files and when
[07:45]<+camerongray> You can then roll back if someone breaks something
[07:45]<@jacky> ok
[07:45]<+camerongray> Also means that two people can work on the same file without things breaking
[07:45]<@jacky> so the code is stored somewhere... not just kept in a text file on your computer that I see there
[07:46]<@jacky> what language(s)?
[07:46]<+camerongray> We used PHP and Javascript
[07:46]<+camerongray> https://github.com/CraigDem/amazonhack
[07:46]<+camerongray> That's all our code
[07:46]<+camerongray> You can see the comments made when we committed changes and the usernames of the person who submitted it
[07:47]<@jacky> cool
[07:47]<@jacky> all composed that day?
[07:47]<+camerongray> Yeah
[07:47]<@jacky> I only had a quick glance, and closed the window
[07:47]<+camerongray> Some of that code (in the system folder) is part of the framework that we used so we didn't write that
[07:47]<@jacky> this was 24 hours straight?
[07:47]<+camerongray> But most of the other stuff was
[07:47]<+camerongray> Yeah, 20 hours coding
[07:48]<@jacky> oh.. if you said, I missed it.. what is a Web Services Credit?
[07:49]<+camerongray> Amazon Web Services allows you to buy web hosting and storage.etc from amazon, the credit is basically a voucher to get $100 worth of hosting
[07:49]<@jacky> ah
[07:50]<@jacky> Well... even though it is an indoor activity on a nice day, it beats hanging around on the street corner with the gang - outdoors.
[07:50]<@jacky> heheheh
[07:50]<+camerongray> lol
[07:51]<+camerongray> There isn't really any gang stuff here - Which is good since I worked out that at that hackahton I was carrying about £3000 worth of stuff in my bag :P
[07:52]<@jacky> you'd have nothing to worry about, if part of that 3,000 was a 300.00 pistol.
[07:52]<@jacky> :)
[07:53]<+camerongray> hehehe
[07:53]<+camerongray> I was struggling even having 2 laptops and 3 screens
[07:53]<+camerongray> kk
[07:53]<@jacky> like you NEEDED all that
[07:53]<@jacky> that was your "cool" factor
[07:53]<@jacky> heheeh
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[08:17]<+camerongray> lol
[08:17]<+camerongray> hey Tux2
[08:18]<+Tux2> Hi camerongray
[08:46]<+camerongray> How's everything>
[08:56]<+Tux2> Oh... quite "peachy"
[08:56]<+camerongray> lol
[08:58]<+camerongray> I really hope I've properly canceled all the AWS services I used at the hackathon, else it will cost over $100/mo
[08:58]<+Tux2> Yikes!
[08:58]<+camerongray> yeah, we got $50 credit for the 24 hours
[08:59]<+Tux2> Oh, camerongray, have you looked at this post: http://epicminecrafter.com/forums/m/8752707/viewthread/6469332-butterman1122-brighthands
[08:59]<+Tux2> BC_Programming: you there?
[08:59]<+camerongray> But you still had to register with a card so we ended up using mine
[08:59]<+Tux2> heh
[09:00]<+camerongray> Some people should grow up :P
[09:01]<+Tux2> lol, I'm trying to hunt down a user who has a cached version of that picture on their hard drive
[09:05]<+camerongray> Hmm, I wonder when the hackathon photos go up
[09:12]<+camerongray> I love how bad our git commets were :P
[09:13]<+camerongray> "Fixing stuff"
[09:20]<+Tux2> lol
[09:20]<+Tux2> I PMed jrfj asking him to re-post the picture or suffer the ban hammer for lying
[09:21]<+camerongray> ahh
[09:21]<+Tux2> I also told him he needed to apologize for lying
[09:23]<+Tux2> http://files.enjin.com.s3.amazonaws.com/291839/modules/forum/attachments/whathack_1365433976.png <---- see the edit times of the OP and this post?
[09:24]<+camerongray> yeah
[09:24]<+Tux2> He made me look like a fool... and lied...
[09:27]<+Tux2> I feel like a parent catching a kid and having them lie about it, which gets them into bigger trouble than they already were...
[09:32]<+camerongray> lol
[09:36]<+camerongray> Oh great, now ADT are doing cold calling
[09:37]<+camerongray> Yeah, I'll just let a random guy in to look at the alarm system...
[09:37]<+camerongray> You know, the one that is not opperated by ADT
[09:37]<+camerongray> operated*
[09:38]<+camerongray> Tempted to phone ADT to check it was legit, could have been dodgy
[09:42]<+camerongray> Like, I imagine you could get some elderly people letting them in to play with their alarms
[09:44]<+Tux2> lol
[09:45]<+camerongray> I mean, it clearly says "Corstorphine Security Systems" in several places on the outside, so either it was dodgy or he was trying to sell stuff
[09:47]<+Tux2> lol, yeah
[11:24]<+camerongray> Nothing more annoying than trying to learn rails using a YouTube tutorial and finding the series die part wa
[11:24]<+camerongray> way*
[12:16]<+Tux2> heh
[12:48]<+camerongray> Aaaand he's back!
[12:50]<+camerongray> MIght contact the police just to check
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[13:19]<+camerongray> Ahh, he was genuine but the police said they had recieved several calls about him :P
[13:20]<@BC_Programming> competitive gaming is so ridiculous
[13:20]<+camerongray> Yeah
[13:20]<@BC_Programming> I have this person trying to say that Call of Duty has "strategy"
[13:20]<+camerongray> lol!
[13:21]<@BC_Programming> they said "it doesn't have strategy until you look at the metagame"
[13:21]<@BC_Programming> and I said "That probably applies to tic-tac-toe as well. Doesn't change the reality that there really is no strategy involved.
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[14:20]<@BC_Programming> I really do not like Firefox's changed download thing
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[14:52]<@BC_Programming> writing another article about Java and C#, I write too many of these but I feel like I need to post something...
[14:54]<@BC_Programming> well that's interesting
[14:54]<@BC_Programming> apparently there is a GCC Java compiler, GCJ
[14:54]<lucifer> ?
[15:17]<lucifer> camerongray lostcoast has totally banned vps's
[15:18]<@BC_Programming> what
[15:18]<@BC_Programming> Sounds like I'm missing something in CH huh
[15:18]<+camerongray> Sorry what?
[15:19]<lucifer> Like if you host a vps and it's the same ip as the one you use for computerhope he will ban it
[15:19]<@BC_Programming> and how would he know it's a VPS?
[15:19]<+camerongray> for IRC?
[15:19]<lucifer> Yep
[15:20]<+camerongray> I'll need to speak to him about that
[15:20]<@BC_Programming> you'd think it would have to break a rule, but LostCoast has already admitted to me in PM that he basically makes up the rules as he goes along
[15:20]<+camerongray> I'm hardly going to host my IRC differently for one channel
[15:20]<@BC_Programming> for example if you were to be banned for this "reason", it's no doubt the real reason is just because they don't like their stupidity to be highlighted so readily
[15:20]<+camerongray> lucifer: Where did you hear this?
[15:20]<lucifer> camerongray you remember bling from in there?
[15:21]<+camerongray> nope :P
[15:21]<lucifer> He was a regular and was a half op at one point
[15:22]<@BC_Programming> then Lostcoast and him had some sort of disagreement and Lostcoast found a "reason" to ban him
[15:22]<lucifer> And him and lostcoast disagreed on something (probably wrong info) and banned him then latter banned the vps and all vps
[15:22]<@BC_Programming> HAHA!
[15:22]<+camerongray> Ahh
[15:22]<lucifer> BC_Programming you nailed it
[15:22]<@BC_Programming> I'm psychic!
[15:22]<+camerongray> I'll have a word with him
[15:22]<+camerongray> Mind if I have to mention that you told me?
[15:22]<@BC_Programming> I wouldn't bring it up at all
[15:23]<lucifer> I don't mind
[15:23]<+camerongray> True, but I want to know his reason
[15:23]<lucifer> Me and him don't get along anymore either cause of wrong info
[15:23]<@BC_Programming> there is no outward stated rule about it... it's just an excuse to ban people that highlight their idiocracy
[15:23]<@BC_Programming> if you were to ask he might go "AH HA! Now I can ban him I am so happy"
[15:24]<@BC_Programming> "now we can continue to give out advice that even a Gerbil would find assinine without fear of smart people telling us otherwise"
[15:24]<+camerongray> Then I go, ahaa - NATHAN!
[15:24]<lucifer> That's fine he can ban me ... I really don't care
[15:24]<@BC_Programming> Nathan has already left the Channel completely up to LostCoast's Discretion though, so it won't matter
[15:25]<lucifer> I've not broke the rules none of them and Nathan even knows this
[15:25]<lucifer> And I'll be back in 30
[15:25]<+camerongray> Yeah, I'm still tempted to contact him about some of the bad advice
[15:31]<+camerongray> Well, that was odd but at least I;m safe
[15:31]<+camerongray> Still so tempted to contact Nathan :P
[15:31]<@BC_Programming> what was odd
[15:31]<+camerongray> But I don't want patio/lostcoast to hate me more :P
[15:31]<+camerongray> Called me odd for the way I use IRC
[15:32]<@BC_Programming> screw'em
[15:32]<+camerongray> heheeh
[15:32]<@BC_Programming> (no thanks they're ugly)
[15:32]<+camerongray> lol!
[15:45]<+Tux2> lol...
[15:45]<+Tux2> lol, wait, if he's banning all vps's then why isn't tuxreminder banned?
[15:46]<+camerongray> lol, doesn't seem to be
[15:46]<+camerongray> But thinks that they are for "ban evading"
[15:46]<+camerongray> I really don't know whether to email/message Nathan
[15:46]<+camerongray> or not*
[15:46]<@BC_Programming> today we learned that LostCoast has no idea what the difference between a Proxy and a VPS is
[15:46]<+Tux2> lol, I bet he won't risk banning TuxReminder
[16:02]<+Tux2> Okay, I wasted an hour of my time today due to a faulty ISO....
[16:08]<+camerongray> ouch!
[16:08]<+Tux2> lol, yeah...
[16:15]<lucifer> camerongray email him and I could possibly get you his phone number
[16:16]<@BC_Programming> his Cell is 801-232-8181
[16:16]<lucifer> XD BC_Programming you beat me XD
[16:17]<@BC_Programming> I already have his phone number
[16:17]<lucifer> I have it written down somewhere
[16:21]<@BC_Programming> yeah next UHC episode
[16:21]<@BC_Programming> also my Java & C# write-up may be a bit involved since it looks at the Java Bytecode and IL dissassemblies
[16:25]<@BC_Programming> I added options to my plugin to disable hunger-based regeneration too, seems like a useful feature
[16:37]<lucifer> 0.0 lc says they don't support overclocking then links to an overclocking forum
[16:37]<@BC_Programming> heh
[16:37]<+camerongray> Yep, just saw that
[16:37]<+camerongray> drives me mad
[16:38]<lucifer> Ticks me off
[16:38]<+camerongray> Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean we can't discuss it
[16:38]<+camerongray> We should confront him :P
[16:39]<@BC_Programming> who cares, he is in his own world
[16:39]<@BC_Programming> just like Patio
[16:39]<lucifer> It gives people like us bad names
[16:40]<@BC_Programming> they both think they have "experience" and you cannot change them. If that 'experience' has them thinking Home Premium doesn't have Aero, then it's obviously worthless
[16:42]<+camerongray> Yeah
[16:42]<+camerongray> I just don't know how to start a message to nathan or how he'll take it
[16:43]<lucifer> Just say that you two need ti talk
[16:44]<@BC_Programming> he's not breaking up with him...
[16:45]<lucifer> XD
[16:45]<+camerongray> lol
[16:55]<lucifer> Fox news are idiots ... Allowed a british man to use twit
[16:56]<+camerongray> twit?
[16:57]<lucifer> Yep
[16:58]<+camerongray> No, as in what do you mean by allowing a british man to use twit?
[16:59]<lucifer> Live broadcast and they were talking about the upper class in England
[17:00]<@BC_Programming> that doesn't answer the question...
[17:00]<lucifer> They didn't censor it out
[17:00]<@BC_Programming> and?
[17:01]<lucifer> It's a derogatory term
[17:01]<@BC_Programming> so?
[17:01]<@BC_Programming> would they censor it if they said "fool"?
[17:02]<lucifer> No
[17:02]<@BC_Programming> they mean the same thing
[17:02]<lucifer> Ah
[17:02]<@BC_Programming> you might be thinking of "twat"
[17:02]<lucifer> Probably
[17:03]<+camerongray> Ahh
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