Session Start: Tue Feb 05 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[11:29]<+camerongray> Another little gem from CH...
[11:29]<+camerongray> Guy wanted to know alternatives to Adobe Flash Player...
[11:29]<+camerongray> To be different from his friends
[11:30]<+camerongray> He seriously said that
[11:35]<@jacky> umm... sounds like he might already be "different"
[11:35]<@jacky> heh
[11:36]<@jacky> camerongray: trying to remember... didn't you have a website or something that dealt with short urls?
[11:36]<+camerongray> Yeah
[11:36]<+camerongray> http://unshorten.it
[11:36]<@jacky> did it shorten?
[11:36]<@jacky> ah.. other way around, huh?
[11:36]<+camerongray> Nah
[11:36]<+camerongray> Yeah, Just use bit.ly or something
[11:36]<@jacky> aha
[11:36]<@jacky> got a few minutes?
[11:36]<+camerongray> Yeah
[11:37]<@jacky> here's what is going on: new bot... helping Craig with it... he found a script that shortens... but nothing happens. zilch. I suspect that the site moved, or changed their display, or something
[11:37]<@jacky> thus, I need to edit script, to point it another site, or fix it somehow
[11:37]<@jacky> and
[11:37]<+camerongray> Hmm, look into bit.ly's API
[11:37]<+camerongray> Shouldn't be too ahrd
[11:37]<+camerongray> hard*
[11:37]<@jacky> I'm not good with scripting to read websites
[11:38]<@jacky> so.. are you recommending that one?
[11:38]<@jacky> it doesn't change often, etc. ?
[11:38]<+camerongray> Yeah, it's the biggest one so will be reliable
[11:38]<+camerongray> Nah, shouldn't
[11:38]<+camerongray> They are actually doing a talk at uni tomorrow :P
[11:39]<@jacky> http://www.hawkee.com/snippet/8803/
[11:39]<@jacky> if you can look at it
[11:39]<@jacky> I know you don't do TCL, but you will get the idea
[11:39]<@jacky> perhaps you have some ideas for me/us to get it working
[11:39]<@jacky> I haven't delved into it yet... was waiting to talk to you, first
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[11:39]<+camerongray> Yeah, the site that's referencing looks dead
[11:39]<+camerongray> Would need to modify the URLs to point to the API of an external service
[11:40]<+camerongray> Look into using CURL with TCL, that's what you need to call external APIs - Once you know it, it is super useful
[11:40]<@jacky> "an external service" ?
[11:40]<+camerongray> Can pretty much pull in any data you want from an API
[11:40]<+camerongray> External service being something like bit.ly
[11:40]<+camerongray> They will provide an API you can use
[11:41]<Craig_phone> We should use that
[11:41]<@jacky> I don't even now what an API really is
[11:41]<Craig_phone> :-P
[11:41]<@jacky> <+camerongray> They will provide an API you can use << how? what do you mean?
[11:41]<Craig_phone> I do but not how to use it
[11:41]<+camerongray> It's basically a way you can get data and send data to a remote web service
[11:42]<+camerongray> Take a look at the unshorten.it API - shows how it works
[11:42]<+camerongray> http://unshorten.it/api/documentation
[11:42]<+camerongray> You see all the URLs in red?
[11:42]<@jacky> not yet
[11:42]<@jacky> where?
[11:42]<+camerongray> On that page, scroll down
[11:42]<+camerongray> Just under "Sample Requests"
[11:42]<@jacky> I see a lot of red text
[11:42]<@jacky> ah
[11:42]<@jacky> brb
[11:43]<+camerongray> Cool
[11:43]<@jacky> ok
[11:43]<@jacky> continue...
[11:43]<+camerongray> Basically, these are URLs to call the API - The API takes in a shortened URL and spits out a full URL
[11:43]<+camerongray> http://api.unshorten.it?shortURL=http://bit.ly/mhCHiI&apiKey=YOUR_API_KEY
[11:43]<+camerongray> The shortURL= part specifies the URL to expand
[11:43]<@jacky> so is this something you sign up for?
[11:43]<+camerongray> The apiKey= part specifies a unique key to allow access
[11:43]<@jacky> <+camerongray> They will provide an API you can use << how? what do you mean?
[11:44]<@jacky> with bitly ?
[11:44]<+camerongray> You'll probably need to sign up for a key with bit.ly - Basically so they can see who uses the API and shut down abusers
[11:44]<@jacky> ok. this will be on a bot.
[11:44]<@jacky> what constitutes "abuse" , usually?
[11:45]<+camerongray> Would be people using it in an automated script creating thousands of requests, not going to be a problem with a bot
[11:45]<@jacky> ah
[11:45]<@jacky> ok
[11:45]<@jacky> ok... any other tips, for now?
[11:45]<+camerongray> g2g for food - bbl
[11:45]<@jacky> You've given me enough for me to start to stumble around....
[11:45]<@jacky> thanks
[11:45]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, speak to Nathan from CH - hopebot has bit.ly
[11:45]<@jacky> yeah, sure, right
[11:46]<@jacky> heheheeheheeh
[11:46]<+camerongray> lol, nathan is a good guy
[11:46]<@jacky> since when?
[11:46]<@jacky> last I knew, he was pretty much an <censored>
[11:46]<+camerongray> Always been nice when I spoke to him
[11:46]<@jacky> was to me, anyway
[11:46]<@jacky> try to help him, and you'll see
[11:46]<@jacky> he's dumber than a clam
[11:46]<@jacky> and THAT is the problem with CH
[11:46]<+camerongray> lol
[11:46]<@jacky> he promotes their style
[11:47]<+camerongray> You should also try the unshorten.it API in a bot :P
[11:47]<@jacky> one step at a time
[11:47]<@jacky> heheeh
[11:47]<@jacky> (whew)
[11:47]<+camerongray> Tell people the full URL if someone posts a short one
[11:47]<@jacky> again... thanks for chatting with me about it
[11:47]<+camerongray> Cool, no worries
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[11:47]<+camerongray> hehehe
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[12:22]<+camerongray> I love the uni buildings!
[12:22]<+camerongray> Main entrance to Appleton Tower is closed due to "immediate health and safety problems with stairs/scaffolding"
[12:23]<+camerongray> So now this building with thousands of people can only be entered through a small back door and up a tiny staircase that can't cope with two way traffic
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[14:49]<+FusRoDah> Craig and BC_Programming could do with a chat with you both at some time if you're available
[14:49]<+Craig> brb :P
[14:49]<+FusRoDah> k
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[14:50]<+camerongray> Hackathon at uni :D
[14:50]<+Craig> Back
[14:51]<@Mulreay> Has to be private can you skype for 10mins?
[14:51]<+Craig> sure
[14:51]<@Mulreay> K let me get on my PC
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