Session Start: Sun Jan 06 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[00:00]<+Craig> no, no floppy :P
[00:00]<@BC_Programming> precisely
[00:01]<@BC_Programming> "solved it by simply plugging in a floppy drive"
[00:01]<+Craig> Bahahaha no sounds like they restarted and it just updated :p
[00:01]<@BC_Programming> ?
[00:01]<@BC_Programming> just updated what?
[00:01]<@BC_Programming> ESCD?
[00:01]<@BC_Programming> I guess that makes sense. Could also be a busted slot
[00:04]<@BC_Programming> in the meantime I'm spamming torches everywhere
[00:08]<@BC_Programming> hmm since they have gold and iron pressure plates now
[00:08]<@BC_Programming> they should add gold and iron buttons that have a different pulse length
[00:23]<+Craig> Oh He said floppy connector to the board to support 8 sticks of ram on an intel board. ... Didn't know they had that? I think someone may fry their board... S:
[00:23]<@BC_Programming> "he said"?
[00:23]<+Craig> Not sure what you mean past ESCD :P
[00:23]<+Craig> Have you connected the Floppy power connector to the board for extra Ram power incase it's not getting enough juice. This is "recommended when running all 8 slots full of memeory"
[00:23]<+Craig> http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/311564-12-asus-rampage-extreme-32gb-sees-24gb
[00:23]<@BC_Programming> like I said that doesn't make sense to me
[00:24]<+Craig> heh
[00:24]<+Craig> Well, I am not fully sure if its right either... :P
[00:31]<+Craig> $160 upgrade and I can only use 3/4th of it... :'(
[00:32]<+Craig> Hey BC, does my site load quickly? http://www.brokedcomputer.com/
[00:32]<@BC_Programming> have you tried to determine if there is maybe a dead RAM slot Craig?
[00:32]<+Craig> Heh, my 16GB used all 4 with 0 issues :)
[00:32]<+Craig> I even did a ram test
[00:33]<@BC_Programming> loads fast enough that I don't notice
[00:33]<+Craig> :) heh
[00:33]<+Craig> Thanks
[00:35]<+Tux2> Heya Craig
[00:35]<+Tux2> Have you checked out my tekkit lite server yet?
[00:35]<+Craig> No, sorry why?
[00:35]<@BC_Programming> You must
[00:35]<+Craig> What ever happened to the Epic tekkit server?
[00:35]<@BC_Programming> this is where you get him to join and the server is full lol
[00:36]<+Tux2> lol BC_Programming, too true...
[00:36]<+Tux2> Craig: this is epic tekkit
[00:36]<@BC_Programming> ahh so the tekkit lite is running on the server for cam?
[00:36]<+Tux2> There's 2 slots open
[00:36]<@BC_Programming> from*
[00:36]<+Tux2> yes
[00:36]<@BC_Programming> ahh that's why it works so well
[00:37]<@BC_Programming> 30 slots all filled and running reasonably is fairly impressive
[00:37]<+Tux2> :D I wouldn't run it if I couldn't run it well
[00:37]<+Tux2> I've had players ask me to raise the slots limit...
[00:37]<@BC_Programming> I mean there is a bit of block lag sometimes but nothing ridiculous
[00:37]<+Tux2> lol, yeah
[00:37]<+Tux2> That's why I'm not increasing it
[00:37]<+Craig> hahaha
[00:38]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[00:38]<@BC_Programming> Oh here's a funny story when I was moderating last night
[00:38]<@BC_Programming> somebody tried to tell me to op that skylord guy
[00:38]<+Tux2> lol
[00:38]<@BC_Programming> "yeah he seems responsible to me"
[00:39]<@BC_Programming> "and deop yourself"
[00:39]<@BC_Programming> and I'm like lol no
[00:39]<+Tux2> ROFL!
[00:39]<+Tux2> We aren't noobs here kids...
[00:39]<@BC_Programming> yeah I thought they were kidding but I think he was dead serious
[00:39]<@BC_Programming> oh and a lot of them thought you were a she
[00:39]<@BC_Programming> and didn't believe me when I said otherwise :/
[00:40]<+Tux2> lol BC_Programming, that's because I came on with my alt account melissar
[00:40]<@BC_Programming> yeah that's what I figured
[00:40]<@BC_Programming> and I told them as such
[00:40]<@BC_Programming> and they were like "MelissaR isn't a guys name"
[00:40]<@BC_Programming> and I said "no, it's not. it's a account name"
[00:41]<+Tux2> lol, and that's why that name works so well when I want to go under disguise
[00:41]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[00:41]<@BC_Programming> until I saw it on the test server I didn't even know it was an alt lol
[00:41]<@BC_Programming> I was like ok, there's that MelissaR person... where is Tux?"
[00:44]<+Tux2> lol, melissar is my alt when I don't want players knowing who I am
[00:45]<@BC_Programming> well it worked
[00:45]<@BC_Programming> heh
[00:45]<+Craig> Wow, Java7 is causing some serious lag with my computer...?
[00:45]<+Tux2> lol, really?
[00:45]<+Tux2> lol BC_Programming
[00:46]<+Tux2> I picked an alternate persona 180 degrees different from myself
[00:46]<+Craig> Ressilem interesting name.
[00:50]<+Tux2> lol, my server has been full ever since I opened it up
[00:55]<+Craig> Any ideas why when I load a java based program my computer lags to an almost unusable state? (this also happened before the ram upgrade)
[00:57]<@BC_Programming> no
[00:57]<@BC_Programming> uninstall all Java-related stuff and reinstall?
[00:57]<+Craig> Did that :p
[01:00]<+Tux2> Craig: did you use revo?
[01:01]<+Craig> Revo?
[01:02]<+Tux2> Revo uninstaller
[01:02]<+Tux2> it's what I use to make sure everything about a program is removed
[01:03]<@BC_Programming> Also did you install x64 or x86
[01:03]<+Craig> you know anything about why an M5A97 will only recognize 24GB of 32GB ram?
[01:04]<+Craig> First 64, then 32 after trying just 64
[01:09]<+Craig> Serious lag still on program start, and will not really respond...
[01:11]<+Craig> I don't get it either. 200MB usage for ram, and 0% CPU....
[01:12]<@BC_Programming> I take it you are installing the JRE?
[01:12]<@BC_Programming> let me try something
[01:12]<+Craig> ?
[01:13]<@BC_Programming> I'll create a one-liner java class and a batch file and you can see if it takes a while to start
[01:13]<+Craig> JRE7 x64 installed just fine, but when starting any standard Java application it fails horribly.
[01:13]<@BC_Programming> then we can see if it's slow for the java runtime to start or afterward
[01:14]<+Craig> What would you like to try?
[01:14]<@BC_Programming> I'm writing it
[01:14]<+Craig> :P
[01:14]<+Craig> bat file?
[01:14]<@BC_Programming> java program
[01:15]<+Craig> ah
[01:17]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/misc/simplejava.zip
[01:17]<@BC_Programming> it's just a batch and a class, the batch should launch the java program which should just write to the console
[01:17]<@BC_Programming> (so you'll probably need to run it from an existing command line)
[01:18]<@BC_Programming> wait is this on windows
[01:19]<+Craig> yeah
[01:19]<+Craig> 7
[01:19]<@BC_Programming> oh ok then
[01:19]<+Craig> windows 7
[01:20]<+Craig> Says it cant load the class file,
[01:21]<+Craig> simple or simple.class
[01:21]<@BC_Programming> how are you running it
[01:21]<+Craig> directly opening the bat file in cmd
[01:21]<@BC_Programming> run the batch file
[01:21]<@BC_Programming> it runs java simple
[01:21]<@BC_Programming> works here and loads and runs...
[01:21]<+Craig> yeah
[01:22]<@BC_Programming> you extracted both files I presume
[01:22]<+Craig> yes...
[01:22]<@BC_Programming> can you get the full error
[01:22]<+Craig> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
[01:22]<+Craig> Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
[01:22]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>M:\Backup\Craig\Desktop\simple.bat
[01:22]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>java simple
[01:22]<+Craig> Error: Could not find or load main class simple
[01:22]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>
[01:23]<+Craig> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
[01:23]<+Craig> Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
[01:23]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>M:\Backup\Craig\Desktop\simple.bat
[01:23]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>java simple
[01:23]<+Craig> Error: Could not find or load main class simple
[01:23]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>M:\Backup\Craig\Desktop\simple.bat
[01:23]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>java simple.class
[01:23]<+Craig> Error: Could not find or load main class simple.class
[01:23]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>
[01:23]<@BC_Programming> sigh
[01:23]<@BC_Programming> run it when you are in the correct directory for starters
[01:24]<+Craig> I am in that directory
[01:24]<@BC_Programming> presumably simple.class is in M:\Backup\Craig\Desktop\ along with simple.bat, so of course it's not going to find simple.class in C:\Users\Craig :/
[01:26]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>simple.bat
[01:26]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>java simple
[01:26]<+Craig> Test!
[01:26]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>
[01:26]<+Craig> Moved it, I couldnt transverse folders?
[01:26]<@BC_Programming> well I guess that works
[01:26]<@BC_Programming> hmm?
[01:26]<+Craig> That doesnt use Javaw though
[01:26]<@BC_Programming> when you run a batch file it runs the commands in the batc hfile
[01:26]<+Craig> No I understand that,
[01:27]<+Craig> I was trying to use the CD command, and I couldnt change folders
[01:27]<@BC_Programming> you can't use cd to change the current drive
[01:27]<+Craig> For example,
[01:27]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>simple.bat
[01:27]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>java simple
[01:27]<+Craig> Test!
[01:27]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>cd M:\
[01:27]<+Craig> C:\Users\Craig>
[01:27]<@BC_Programming> unless you use cd /d
[01:28]<@BC_Programming> Each drive has a current directory. if you don't use /d you change the current directory for that drive, but it doesn't actually change the current drive
[01:28]<+Craig> M:\Backup\Craig\Desktop>simple.bat
[01:28]<+Craig> M:\Backup\Craig\Desktop>java simple
[01:28]<+Craig> Test!
[01:28]<+Craig> M:\Backup\Craig\Desktop>
[01:29]<+Craig> Thank you...
[01:29]<+Craig> However, that didn't seem to do the same thing as it did when I load minecraft. Or my Webmin Filebrowser
[01:33]<@BC_Programming> Maybe a simple windowed app?
[01:33]<@BC_Programming> see if that starts?
[01:33]<+Craig> What do you mean?
[01:33]<@BC_Programming> instead of the one I used it would be a windowed Java application...
[01:35]<+Craig> Java instantly slows down everything even my cursor AS SOON as I click on the Filebrowser...?
[01:35]<+Craig> But if I load it a second time, it works just fine.?
[01:36]<@BC_Programming> Java Runtime has to load maybe
[01:36]<@BC_Programming> not sure why you would get that
[01:36]<+Craig> Maybe...?
[01:36]<@BC_Programming> honestly I haven't the first clue what is wrong with your setup or why it's doing that anymore than you do :P
[01:36]<+Craig> See the filebrowser works perfectly now...
[01:38]<+Craig> Minecraft however still fails horribly...
[01:41]<@BC_Programming> how does it "fail" exactly? Crash report?
[01:41]<+Craig> Nah, just opens, slows my computer, with no window. ?
[01:42]<@BC_Programming> maybe redownload the launcher?
[01:44]<+Craig> Nah, its not the launcher
[01:48]<+Craig> M:\Backup\Craig\Desktop>"C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe" -Xmx1024M -Xm
[01:48]<+Craig> s512M -cp "M:\Backup\Craig\Desktop\Launcher.jar" net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[01:49]<+Craig> Thats what I ran, still slow....
[01:54]<+Craig> Here
[01:54]<+Craig> is what I got from the console, http://pastebin.com/DfRvTGGb
[01:56]<@BC_Programming> interesting
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[02:09]<+Craig> To you maybe, but I am stuck hahahaha
[02:11]<@BC_Programming> that makes no sense to me at all
[02:12]<+Craig> Hahahaah thats more like it :p
[02:12]<@BC_Programming> it makes no sense because Minecraft never opens a file called lastlog, it tries to open a file called lastlogin...
[02:12]<@BC_Programming> ahh nevermind word wrapped
[02:13]<+Craig> :P
[02:16]<@BC_Programming> best I can come up with is bad Graphics Driver or something
[02:16]<@BC_Programming> because that's the only way I can see a Component HDC being null
[02:22]<+Craig> What is HDC?
[02:22]<@BC_Programming> Handle to a Device Context
[02:24]<+Craig> Ah
[02:24]<+Craig> Well, I am running ATI Drivers 12.10
[02:25]<@BC_Programming> did you install them
[02:26]<+Craig> Yeah
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