Session Start: Sat Jan 05 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[01:06]<+Tux2> Hey BC_Programming, you won't believe it! I switched the tekkit server to tekkit lite, and now we have 14 players on right now!
[01:06]<+Tux2> it's crazy!
[01:08]<@BC_Programming> their website is completely broken in Firefox, haha
[01:10]<@BC_Programming> I've been experimenting with hoppers
[01:11]<@BC_Programming> you can put a hopper over a dispenser, and then have a chest over that that keeps refilling the dispenser
[01:11]<@BC_Programming> then you could put a hopper then a chest over that to keep refilling the refill chest... etc
[01:12]<@BC_Programming> and you can load and unload minecarts though I haven't figured out how to automate it
[01:13]<@BC_Programming> also on the server somebody was giving everybody trouble and demanding people give them diamonds
[01:13]<@BC_Programming> so I said I'd give them some if they teleported to me and had some diamonds sitting in a room
[01:14]<@BC_Programming> they ran towards it and went on a pressure plate which released a anvil that was supposed to kill them but failed because it landed on the pressure plate
[01:14]<@BC_Programming> would have been funnier if it worked
[01:15]<+Tux2> rofl!
[01:16]<+Tux2> Okay, I updated to Tekkit Lite, and we're the first stable tekkit lite server people play on
[01:16]<+Tux2> All the other ones are super laggy. :D
[01:16]<@BC_Programming> yours will be too if you get too many players...
[01:17]<+Tux2> lol, I capped it at 25 players with 3GB
[01:17]<+Tux2> We had players fighting for spots earlier because it was the only non-laggy server out there
[01:18]<@BC_Programming> heh
[01:25]<+Tux2> One of the hilarious things is that the permissions system for this thing is in early alpha, and I didn't even know it had such a thing...
[01:26]<+Tux2> I booted it up and had to go for a bit left sean_mccarthyism in charge for a bit
[01:26]<+Tux2> Came back to "I can't place anything!" 10 minutes later...
[01:26]<@BC_Programming> why did that happen
[01:26]<+Tux2> Only then did I figure out there was a permissions system
[01:26]<+Tux2> Build restrictions
[01:26]<@BC_Programming> Also in other news I started catching up with my MLP wallpapers
[01:27]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.deviantart.com/art/Lightning-Dust-Wallpaper-346764855
[01:27]<+Tux2> awesome
[01:27]<@BC_Programming> I kind of cheated and based it off my first RD wallpaper because I mean come on how could I resist
[01:27]<+Tux2> lol, right?
[01:27]<+Tux2> It is kind of like RD's evil twin, right?
[01:28]<@BC_Programming> indeed
[01:28]<@BC_Programming> just without the telltale beard
[01:29]<@BC_Programming> in retrospect I wasn't as far "behind" as I thought... I have a wallpaper for corrupted trixie and one for Too many pinkies... still need to redux a spike one
[01:31]<+Tux2> lol
[01:31]<+Tux2> One of the most annoying things is this permissions system is almost entirely undocumented...
[01:32]<+Tux2> So I'm shooting in the dark for almost half of it
[01:32]<@BC_Programming> wait so they created their own permissions system instead of ste... I mean, adapting, one of the existing bukkit mods?
[01:32]<@BC_Programming> or plugins I should say
[01:33]<+Tux2> lol, correct, it's a new forge permissions system
[01:33]<+Tux2> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1592223-wip-alphaforgeessentials-permissions-protection-logging-more-for-forge-based-servers/
[01:37]<+Tux2> It's so bad I'm going to have to guess at certain perimissions and see if I'm right or not...
[01:38]<@BC_Programming> I have to figure out how to get my webhost from constantly trying to take funds from paypal for no reason
[01:40]<+Tux2> Ugh
[01:41]<+Tux2> Oh, this is frustrating!!!!
[01:41]<+Tux2> I add a new group, and now I can't place blocks...
[01:43]<@BC_Programming> wow they've COMPLETELY drained my paypal account and now paypal has limited my account access too
[01:43]<+Tux2> Yikes!
[01:43]<@BC_Programming> well at least it's credited on my webhost but still
[01:44]<+Tux2> Ah ha!
[01:44]<+Tux2> Well, that works
[01:46]<@BC_Programming> victory, I found where it was in Paypal, somehow I had three subscriptions so every month I was paying them three times
[01:46]<@BC_Programming> trickery I tell you
[01:46]<+Tux2> Yikes!
[01:47]<@BC_Programming> on the bright side this means I can't use it for something other than the site I guess teehee
[01:47]<+Tux2> lol
[01:48]<@BC_Programming> account credit is like $32 which will last until October so I should be good there
[01:52]<+Tux2> :D
[01:53]<+Tux2> Hey, BC_Programming, I need some help testing perms, mind hopping on my test Tekkit Lite server?
[01:53]<@BC_Programming> uh sure... I was kind of trying to figure out a hardware issue though gimme a sec
[01:53]<+Tux2> 174.22.43.250
[01:53]<@BC_Programming> (case fan is really loud)
[01:53]<+Tux2> lol, that's fine
[01:55]<+Tux2> lol, okay... I'm an owner and I can't place items? this is madness I tell you!
[01:56]<@BC_Programming> heh is it the same one that forwards from tekkit.tux2mc.com?
[01:56]<@BC_Programming> it describes itself as "A tekkit lite server"
[01:57]<@BC_Programming> I'm tempted to just unplug this case fan
[01:58]<@BC_Programming> ahh silence
[01:59]<+Tux2> lol, that's the live server
[01:59]<+Tux2> I'm on my test server trying to work out this POS permissions system
[01:59]<@BC_Programming> I get a connection reset error
[02:00]<+Tux2> 174.22.43.250 ?
[02:00]<@BC_Programming> ooh wait I chose the wrong mod
[02:01]<+Tux2> Oookay, so I add more permissions in and the whole thing goes crazy...
[02:02]<+Tux2> This is the craziest, touchiest permissions system I have EVER worked with...
[02:03]<@BC_Programming> k I'm in methinks
[02:03]<+Tux2> lol, that you are
[02:10]<+Tux2> This perms system is extremely touchy
[02:26]<+Tux2> Heh, okay, so ban isn't working unless you're op... good to know...
[02:27]<+Tux2> Time to upload this new perms stuff to the server
[02:29]<+Tux2> Okay, tekkit.tux2mc.com points to the new server
[02:37]<+Tux2> lol, I've got to make an auto announcer for this new tekkit server
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[04:02]<@BC_Programming> I probably shouldn't do this but now I'm going to plug my case fan back in
[04:02]<@BC_Programming> WHile the PC is on
[04:02]<@BC_Programming> if I ping timeout, best wishes
[04:02]<@BC_Programming> lol
[04:04]<@BC_Programming> can't do it, shutting down first :P
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[04:28]<+Tux2> Hey BC_Programming
[04:28]<+Tux2> Hey Mulreay, you there?
[04:28]<@BC_Programming> I shut down to plug the fan back in
[04:28]<+Tux2> Ah...
[04:28]<+Tux2> I need a favor to ask you BC_Programming
[04:29]<@BC_Programming> sure
[04:29]<+Tux2> I need a mod on the tekkit server until someone else can get on...
[04:29]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[04:29]<+Tux2> We're fluctuating between 12-24 people right now...
[04:29]<@BC_Programming> :O
[04:30]<+Tux2> and I need some sleep
[04:30]<@BC_Programming> kk
[04:30]<+Tux2> If you can handle it that would be awesome!
[04:31]<+Tux2> I've opped crunkatog as well, so as soon as she gets on epic minecrafter tomorrow you can point her to the tekkit server
[04:31]<+Tux2> Mulreay is also opped
[04:31]<@BC_Programming> cool
[04:31]<+Tux2> Basically the same rules as tux2mc
[04:32]<+Tux2> except it's pvp
[04:32]<@BC_Programming> eeyup
[04:32]<+Tux2> I'd change your name tag but that would require a server restart
[04:33]<@BC_Programming> I'm undercover
[04:33]<@BC_Programming> :P
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[08:38]<@BC_Programming> ok who the heck is Jimmy Kurian
[08:38]<@jacky> !g Jimmy Kurian
[08:38]<@jacky> ug
[08:38]<@BC_Programming> apparently he started following my github a week or so ago
[08:39]<@jacky> is that a Good Thing, or a Bad Thing?
[08:39]<@BC_Programming> I dunno
[08:39]<@jacky> oh
[08:39]<@jacky> ok
[08:39]<@jacky> just checkin'
[08:39]<@jacky> heh
[08:39]<@BC_Programming> it's a confusing thing if nothing else
[08:40]<@jacky> well!
[08:40]<@jacky> find his git-thing, and just follow it yourself!!
[08:40]<@jacky> so there
[08:41]<@BC_Programming> he has two projects on github
[08:41]<@BC_Programming> I have 11
[08:41]<@BC_Programming> I WIN
[08:41]<@jacky> unless his are good, and yours are garbage
[08:42]<@jacky> do his make the hub git farther?
[08:42]<@BC_Programming> well his names could use a little work
[08:42]<@BC_Programming> a Ruby on Rails project for managing Movie titles
[08:42]<@BC_Programming> "Cinema"
[08:42]<@jacky> you don't like "Jimmy"?
[08:42]<@BC_Programming> Another one for Books... "Library"
[08:42]<@BC_Programming> I mean come on use some imagination, something that organizes book could be called something clever
[08:43]<@jacky> "Book DB" ?
[08:43]<@BC_Programming> like... Dewey-Decimal Divider
[08:44]<@jacky> Jimmy's DDD !!
[08:44]<@BC_Programming> yes it has the advantage
[08:44]<@BC_Programming> "Come see our Triple D's!"
[08:45]<@jacky> I was almost there...
[08:45]<@jacky> heheeh
[08:46]<@BC_Programming> Hmm this is rather annoying
[08:46]<@jacky> talking to me??!!??
[08:46]<@BC_Programming> haha no
[08:46]<@jacky> (that was too easy ... hehehe )
[08:46]<@BC_Programming> job search stuff
[08:46]<@BC_Programming> I apply for one, don't hear anything back
[08:47]<@jacky> and if you try to follow up, then you are a pain in the ass....
[08:47]<@jacky> right?
[08:47]<@BC_Programming> yeah there is that as well
[08:47]<@BC_Programming> I did follow up on the place I got an interview but they seem to be ignoring me
[08:48]<@jacky> take your AR-15 with you, and go visit them.
[08:48]<@BC_Programming> I come to this conclusion because I haven't gotten a response from them
[08:48]<@BC_Programming> it took quite some figuring to do so
[08:49]<@jacky> from '09, eh?
[08:49]<@BC_Programming> mainly though there are these listings that I apply for, don't hear anything, so figure they filled it or what-have-you
[08:49]<@BC_Programming> then I look a few months later and they've reposted the exact same thing
[08:49]<@jacky> apply again... I gues
[08:50]<@BC_Programming> yeah that's what I'm doing
[08:50]<@BC_Programming> a crafty one I am
[08:50]<@jacky> online stuff? or by hand, with a letter?
[08:51]<@BC_Programming> They don't usually give an address and want examples provided in the E-mail
[08:51]<@jacky> examples?
[08:52]<@BC_Programming> of work
[08:52]<@jacky> what kind of work is this?
[08:52]<@BC_Programming> PHP Programming
[08:52]<@jacky> ah
[08:52]<@jacky> ok
[08:52]<@BC_Programming> websites and stuff
[08:52]<@jacky> umm.. maybe you suck?
[08:52]<@jacky> heh
[08:52]<@BC_Programming> well would be nice of them to let me know
[08:52]<@BC_Programming> ... so I can tell them where to shove it...
[08:52]<@BC_Programming> :P
[08:53]<@jacky> apply for THAT job! "Assistant Exec. in Charge of Replying to People that Suck"
[08:53]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[08:55]<@jacky> can you do an auto email super spammer, all in PHP?
[08:55]<@jacky> have IT do your applying to them
[08:55]<@jacky> heh
[08:55]<@BC_Programming> hmm an interesting approach
[08:55]<@BC_Programming> see by filling their inbox with copies of my application, other applicants will be denied entry
[08:56]<@jacky> yer catchin' on
[08:56]<@BC_Programming> Then it will become a race
[08:56]<@jacky> tip: spoof the CEO's email addy, for the return address
[08:56]<@BC_Programming> to see which E-mail server crashes first, my webhosts, or theirs
[08:57]<@BC_Programming> bahaha... OMG I'm totally doing that for kicks
[08:57]<@jacky> yours? c'mon... use some class... hi-jack somebody ELSE's
[08:57]<@jacky> y'know... show off a little
[08:57]<@BC_Programming> they'll go to reply to me and it goes to their CEO and he's like WTF why did you send me this
[08:58]<@jacky> in the text body, is where you put your phone number or something
[08:58]<@BC_Programming> it's clever
[08:58]<@jacky> of course
[08:58]<@BC_Programming> because I'm not the one actually sending it
[08:58]<@jacky> _I_ thought of it
[08:58]<@jacky> heh
[08:58]<@BC_Programming> ok, so if it backfires I know who to blame, right?
[08:58]<@BC_Programming> camerongray, of course
[08:58]<@jacky> there ya go!
[08:58]<@jacky> you've caught on!
[08:59]<@jacky> if he whines, we'll let HIM blame ChanbotVI
[08:59]<@jacky> heh
[09:00]<+camerongray> Hey jacky & BC_Programming
[09:01] * @jacky does the happy dance
[09:01]<@jacky> I'm first, I'm first, I'm first
[09:01]<@jacky> >g<
[09:01]<+camerongray> I'm meant to be building a PC today, that would be if Parcelforce could understand the concept of "Saturday Delivery" meaning Saturday, not Monday
[09:02]<+camerongray> All couriers in the UK are hopeless
[09:02]<@jacky> camerongray: that's ok. sorry about that. by the way, can you post all the info here about your mail server?
[09:02]<@jacky> heheheehe
[09:02]<+camerongray> hahaha
[09:02]<@BC_Programming> lol
[09:03]<@jacky> ... sigh... I tried
[09:04]<+camerongray> I gave up trying to run email from my box, it worked but many email providers blocked the emails as they didn't recognise the server
[09:04]<+camerongray> Now I host it on Google Apps or Zoho
[09:04]<@BC_Programming> that's discrimination it is
[09:04]<+camerongray> lol
[09:04]<@BC_Programming> next there will be a fountain for beige boxes and a fountain for everybody else
[09:04]<+camerongray> Outlook.com also works for custom domains but they don't allow IMAP
[09:05]<@jacky> BC_Programming: ewww... can you just imagine? sending email to a beige box???
[09:06]<@BC_Programming> or E-mailing cookies
[09:06]<+camerongray> lol, don't get me started about one of the linux fanboys at uni, threw a fuss about email moving to Office 365 from the dreadful system they have ATM
[09:06]<@BC_Programming> But the system they have at the moment was Stallman-approved
[09:06]<+camerongray> HIs argument basically consisted of, "Our emails will be processed with WIndows"
[09:07]<@jacky> but! is that Windows on a beige box??
[09:07]<+camerongray> I wonder if I can find it
[09:07]<+camerongray> Probably, the uni's systems are a mess
[09:07]<@jacky> har
[09:07]<@BC_Programming> Apparently Stallman threw this gigantic fit when giving a presentation
[09:07]<+camerongray> One of the projects is still using SPARC hardware
[09:07]<@BC_Programming> he started in English... and he's in Spain
[09:07]<@BC_Programming> then a few minutes in somebody comes up and says that "uh, yeah, not everybody here speaks english"
[09:08]<@BC_Programming> and he started screaming and hollering and throwing chairs around
[09:08]<+camerongray> Found his rant
[09:08]<@jacky> BC_Programming: refresh me. you all told me once.. I seem to remember that STallman is a linux promoter... but can you give me the short description again?
[09:08]<+camerongray> "No, University of Edinburgh, you will NOT switch the mail service to Microsoft Office 365."
[09:08]<@BC_Programming> he's not a Linux promoter, ironically enough
[09:08]<@jacky> sorry
[09:08]<+camerongray> "I've been so happy in these 19 years avoiding Microsoft's products. So happy..."
[09:08]<@jacky> what is he?
[09:08]<@BC_Programming> he promotes "GNU" software, that is, it has to be free
[09:08]<@jacky> ah
[09:08]<+camerongray> Finally: "I've done the same, but the idea of having my emails sorted and processed by windows running servers is terrible."
[09:08]<@BC_Programming> but only his kind of free is allowed
[09:08]<@jacky> and linux is licensed under that too, isn't it?
[09:09]<@BC_Programming> Ubuntu is Evil according to him
[09:09]<@BC_Programming> the "approved" Linux distributions are a short list of distributions that very few people have heard of and even fewer want to
[09:09]<+camerongray> I like open source stuff, I just hate the complete fanboys
[09:09]<@BC_Programming> Apparently he had people at the win8 launch giving away Trisquel
[09:09]<+camerongray> That same guy ranted at me during a lecture because I had Windows
[09:10]<+camerongray> Then continued to rant about any application I opened that wasn't open source
[09:10]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: but see that's the thing, ol' Stallman hates Open Source as well
[09:10]<@BC_Programming> because it "undercuts his efforts"
[09:10]<+camerongray> "Why are you using chrome, you should use chromium"
[09:10]<@BC_Programming> his efforts being writing a text editor program for UNIX 60 years ago and never shutting up about it since pretty much
[09:10]<+camerongray> "MS WORD?!?!?!" followed by shouting "Open Office" at me repeatedly
[09:11]<@BC_Programming> "hey don't you know who I am? I started emacs"
[09:11]<@BC_Programming> well yeah, but then other people made it usable
[09:11]<+camerongray> hahaha
[09:11]<@jacky> what's the main difference in Open Source and GNU stuff?
[09:11]<@BC_Programming> well see Open Source is Open Source, Free Software
[09:11]<@BC_Programming> and GNU is Open Source, Free Software that sucks up to Stallman
[09:11]<@jacky> har
[09:13]<@BC_Programming> a "proper" FSF-approved OS wouldn't be able to use DVDs because he's declared those Evil, couldn't play movies as a result, wouldn't be able to play CDs because those are also Evil, wouldn't be able to play MP3s because that's a proprietary format and therefore it is also evil, ad infinitum
[09:14]<+camerongray> Yeah, I can't stand people like that
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> "you should support Free as in Beer software"
[09:15]<+camerongray> Open source and free software is good and I like using it, but I don't see the point in using it to the extent that it limits you
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> "how about I support free as in blood flowing out of your nose freely"
[09:15]<@jacky> that's right! we are limited enough as it is!
[09:15]<+camerongray> hehehe
[09:15]<@jacky> heh
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> like "Oh, I can't use that program, because it doesn't have source available"
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> and what bugs me about them, is the people that complain that there is no Source available wouldn't look at it anyway
[09:16]<+camerongray> Like, can you imagine if I turned up at work "Can you test the tracking on this website" "Oh, sorry, I'd have to use Fiddler 2 and that's not open source" - I don't think that would go down well
[09:16]<@BC_Programming> I mean how many people that call OSS such a advantage have actually looked at the Linux Source, and of those, how many are actually qualified to look at it
[09:17]<+camerongray> Or if I were to email a client "Oh, I don't believe in commercial software, can you send me that docx in .odf";
[09:17]<@BC_Programming> That isn't to say it's bad, of course, just that Software should be judged in it's own individual merits and not on some political nonsense
[09:17]<+camerongray> And yes, I did manage to terminate that chat line with a semicolon by mistake :P
[09:17]<@BC_Programming> heh I always love the "I don't believe in commercial software"
[09:18]<@BC_Programming> makes me think of ghosts and stuff
[09:18]<+camerongray> lol
[09:18]<@BC_Programming> I like the one where Stallman flips out on somebody on a mailing list because they announced they were having a baby
[09:19]<+camerongray> People are like that at uni about anything, "Oh, I don't believe in eating that bar of chocolate" then go on ranting about how many people die in africa
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> "maybe you can move there and be one of them"
[09:20]<@jacky> you young people are wising up. Take heed.... these people that you are exposed to now... will be the generation that runs the world soon. Scary, ain't it?
[09:20]<+camerongray> They do the weirdest protests
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> "Save the lobsters"
[09:21]<+camerongray> Saw this on my way to the lab: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8ZTih4CUAALWtM.jpg:large
[09:21]<@BC_Programming> bahaha
[09:21]<@BC_Programming> what is that even for
[09:21]<+camerongray> That;s the thing, there was none there
[09:21]<@BC_Programming> like they've lost so much focus in their activism that they can't even remember what they were activists for
[09:22]<@BC_Programming> "Was it whales? dammit... well whatever it is, it's happening, so just put that, I'm sure I'll remember later"
[09:22]<+camerongray> I go to lunch "Would you like to free tibet?"
[09:22]<+camerongray> I actually got someone coming up to me "Would you like a leaflet?"
[09:22]<@BC_Programming> I'd probably make up some nonsense on the spot
[09:22]<+camerongray> They didn't even show the leaflet
[09:23]<@BC_Programming> "well, that's a many layered question, you see the actions of a single person couldn't in and of themselves solve the years of geopolitical instablity in the region"
[09:23]<+camerongray> lol
[09:23]<+camerongray> Then there were the people giving out coupon books with their megaphone - Outside the computer labs
[09:23]<+camerongray> All I could here all day "Get 50% off pizza hut..."
[09:23]<@BC_Programming> "Now, the Dolly Llama, who to my understanding was a talking Llama, was a very wise Llama, but it's hard to recognize him as a soveriegn ruler"
[09:24]<+camerongray> hahaha, they'd probably kill you
[09:24]<@BC_Programming> "So we'd have to push for equal rights for Llama's... hey where are you going"
[09:24]<+camerongray> Did I tell you about what the christian society do?
[09:25]<@BC_Programming> well I doubt it's bar mitzfahs
[09:25]<+camerongray> You text them a question you would ask jesus and they deliver toast to you and discuss the question
[09:25]<@BC_Programming> toast?
[09:25]<@BC_Programming> now just to be clear, that is just toasted bread
[09:26]<+camerongray> Oh, toastie
[09:26]<@jacky> not like the guy in the local news here yesterday? got pulled over... had 350 POUNDS of pot
[09:26]<+camerongray> I think you can include the filling in the text
[09:26]<@jacky> now that's a lot of dope...
[09:26]<+camerongray> They even have a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aykvWNqGMVA
[09:27]<@BC_Programming> I've been seeing a lot of commercials for the catholic church
[09:27]<@BC_Programming> they confuse me
[09:27]<@BC_Programming> "We invented the scientific method"
[09:27]<@jacky> commercial ads for the Catholic Church?
[09:27]<@jacky> really?
[09:27]<@BC_Programming> yep
[09:27]<@jacky> interesting
[09:28]<@BC_Programming> they almost make rofl because they are just so silly
[09:28]<@jacky> what are they doing? promoting joining?
[09:28]<@BC_Programming> I don't remember, I think so
[09:28]<@jacky> if you don't remember... that's telling you something. the ad failed
[09:28]<@jacky> heh
[09:28]<@BC_Programming> well I was laughing pretty hard
[09:28]<@BC_Programming> I like the testimonials
[09:29]<@BC_Programming> "When I was in a tough spot, I found Jesus"
[09:29]<@BC_Programming> and I'm thinking "well then I guess he was in that tough spot too"
[09:29]<+camerongray> hehehe
[09:29]<@jacky> I don't fault people for their beliefs
[09:30]<@BC_Programming> me either, but I mean that's not really a convincing thing for conversion I don't think
[09:30]<@BC_Programming> "see look these other people believe in X, you should too" type thing
[09:30]<@jacky> really. I'm surprised they trying mass media
[09:30]<@jacky> it just doesn't seem to fit
[09:31]<@BC_Programming> it might work to reinforce the beliefs of those that already hold them, so I guess there is that
[09:31]<@jacky> then... why spend the money on ads??
[09:31]<@jacky> odd
[09:31]<+camerongray> We don't get that here sadly
[09:31]<@jacky> any religion... their best bet... is to "advertise" by example
[09:31]<@BC_Programming> don't ask me I'm as lost on it as anybody
[09:33]<@jacky> and the bottom line of any legit religion is: faith . which one can't argue with... either take it or leave it...
[09:33]<@BC_Programming> indeed
[09:33]<@jacky> I don't mind most of them, until they start having beliefs like, " it is good to kill others that don't believe like we do"
[09:33]<@jacky> we have them running around the world now, it seems
[09:33]<@BC_Programming> yep religious extremism is when things get bumpy
[09:34]<@jacky> well... like good politicians... they are good at saying one thing, and then doing another, whilst twisting and spinning the story the whole time
[09:34]<@jacky> very dangerous people
[09:35]<@BC_Programming> like the ones that warped parts of Islam to make people think that blowing themselves up and killing a bunch of bystanders will guarantee them dozens of virgins in the afterlife
[09:36]<@jacky> bingo
[09:36]<@BC_Programming> ignoring the humanity of it, you have the overriding question of why they want a dozen virgins, I mean surely you'd want at least one girl with experience
[09:36]<@jacky> "We're not building an atomic bomb"
[09:37]<@BC_Programming> "this isn't a nuclear weapons facility, it's a potato chip storage shack!"
[09:37]<@BC_Programming> "Oh how did that plutonium get there"
[09:37]<@jacky> glow in the dark chips!
[09:38]<@jacky> that's ok... .we are full of our own idiots. One of our glorious former Vice Presidents just made $100 selling his American cable tv station to Al-Jezerra
[09:38]<@jacky> you know? the wacko propoganda station ove rthere? that relays messages from terrorists?
[09:38]<@jacky> correction $100 million
[09:39]<@BC_Programming> I was going to say
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[09:39]<@jacky> shhhh!!! it's camerongray_
[09:39]<@jacky> don't talk about him now
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[09:39]<+camerongray_> lol
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[09:47]<+camerongray> I think I've just successfully hackintoshed my ThinkPad :D
[09:48]<@BC_Programming> something to add to the ol' CV
[09:48]<@Mulreay> Can you guy's keep it down pls trying to get some sleep.
[09:48]<+camerongray> lol
[09:48]<+camerongray> hey Mulreay
[09:48]<@BC_Programming> beep
[09:48]<@BC_Programming> beeo
[09:49]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[09:49]<@BC_Programming> beep*
[09:49]<@BC_Programming> though beeo kind of works too
[09:49]<@Mulreay> hey camerongra, BC_Programming everyone and jacky
[09:49]<+camerongray> All I need to do is get the SSD in it and replace the WiFi card
[09:49]<@BC_Programming> LOL
[09:49]<+camerongray> Which is fun on ThinkPads since I'll have to hack the BIOS since they have a whitelist of cards it will allow
[09:50] * @jacky does the UnHappy Squat
[09:50]<@BC_Programming> TMI
[09:50]<@jacky> hahahahah
[09:50]<+camerongray> hehhe
[09:50]<@BC_Programming> hohoho
[09:50]<+camerongray> Oh, will also need to remap the keyboard, bloody apple
[09:51]<+camerongray> Shift + 2 should be " not @
[09:51]<@BC_Programming> I got to be Santa
[09:51]<@BC_Programming> Shift+2 makes a @ for me
[09:51]<@jacky> ·
[09:51]<@BC_Programming> but my layout is also sane
[09:51]<@jacky> !
[09:51]<+camerongray> US layout
[09:51]<@BC_Programming> a backwards F!
[09:51]<@jacky> É
[09:51]<@BC_Programming> AHHH
[09:51]<@jacky> V
[09:52]<@jacky> 
[09:52]<@jacky> ú
[09:52]<@BC_Programming> you've discovered my weakness, strange obscure extended ASCII characters
[09:52]<@BC_Programming> I'm MELTING
[09:52]<+camerongray> For you, Shift + 3 is #, in the uk it's £, apple put the £ sign but forget to put the # somewhere else
[09:52]<@jacky> heh
[09:52]<+camerongray> So their solution "Just press Alt + 3"
[09:52]<@BC_Programming> that's their solution to everything
[09:52]<@jacky> can I tell 'em where to put the # sign? please? please??
[09:52]<+camerongray> Yet I have a dedicated key that doesn't need any modifier keys, right next to return
[09:52]<+camerongray> lol
[09:52]<+camerongray> And they remove the backtick
[09:53]<@BC_Programming> I remember their old screenshot thing
[09:53]<@BC_Programming> where you could only ever have 10 screenshots
[09:53]<@BC_Programming> "What happens if you try to take a screenshot and you already have ten"
[09:53]<@BC_Programming> "nothing"
[09:53]<+camerongray> lol
[09:54]<@BC_Programming> pah who would take ten screenshots, that's crazy talk anyway
[09:54]<@BC_Programming> let's focus on confusing people with AppleScript and Hypercard instead
[09:54]<+camerongray> Screenshots are still a random combination but I use "Grab" - Basically the same as "Snipping Tool" on Windows
[09:54]<+camerongray> Only complaint is it saves as TIFF so I have to convert it
[09:54]<@BC_Programming> I thought it was like... Alt F3 or something
[09:54]<@BC_Programming> yeah you get those programs sometimes
[09:55]<@BC_Programming> it's like the designers were like
[09:55]<@BC_Programming> "now, we could use a format everybody understands, but why don't we use something obscure and difficult to handle"
[09:55]<+camerongray> WOOOO! Sleep works on the Thinkpad
[09:56]<@BC_Programming> I use a pillow, personally
[09:56]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[09:57]<@BC_Programming> I stayed up all night but it's Tux's fault
[09:57]<@BC_Programming> he needed somebody to mod the tekkit lite server
[09:57]<+camerongray> lol
[09:57]<@BC_Programming> that was not particularly fun... bunch of whiney kids
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> it was even funnier because the rank display in chat didn't represent that I had op powers
[09:58]<+camerongray> My phone keeps waking me up, I put it on silent but it has a little RGB led, if I get a bunch of notifications the whole room starts flashing different colours
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> so everybody thought there were no admins on
[09:58]<+camerongray> Several times I've had to stick electrical tape over it
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> that's where you take a lesson from the Hammer Brothers
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> If it makes you mad
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> THROW HAMMERS
[09:59]<+camerongray> hahaha
[09:59]<@BC_Programming> actually maybe those games should have had a higher rating
[09:59]<@BC_Programming> I mean really it encourages kids to throw hammers, that's just dangerous and we need to protect them and keep them from using common sense as long as possible until their common sense lobe shrivels up and dies
[10:00]<@BC_Programming> pac-man encourages you to eat strange pills and then hunt ghosts
[10:00]<@BC_Programming> and that's how ghost-hunters are born
[10:01]<@BC_Programming> centipede is simple game that is actually a apt metaphor for society, it's always harder to hit a descending centipede when the playing field is full of mushrooms
[10:01]<@BC_Programming> and those spider things that follow you around
[10:01]<@BC_Programming> just like in real life
[10:02]<@BC_Programming> I forgot where I was headed with this, but my point is that Germans should be required to wear hats
[10:04]<@BC_Programming> I interpret this awkward silence as resounding approval
[10:04]<@BC_Programming> or unsounding approval, since it's silent
[10:06]<@jacky> see you all later
[10:06]<@BC_Programming> if you insist
[10:06]<@jacky> heh
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[10:08]<@BC_Programming> well I'm off to bed
[10:08]<@BC_Programming> later
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[10:08]<@MrPillow> this is going to confuse people
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[11:44]<+Tux2> Hey Nat
[11:44]<Nat> hiya Tux2!
[11:45]<Nat> what are you up to?
[11:46]<+Tux2> Managing a VERY full Tekkit Lite server :D
[11:46]<+camerongray> nice!
[11:46]<@Mulreay> Hey guys
[11:46]<+camerongray> hey
[12:04]<Nat> Tekkit Lite?
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[18:46]<@BC_Programming> lol wow the server truly is full!
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[19:27]<@BC_Programming> regretting ever joining that tekkit lite server
[20:12]<@BC_Programming> RELEASE your inner monkey
[20:23]<@BC_Programming> Tux: permissions getting you down again :L
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[22:11]<@BC_Programming> Who's around then
[22:58]<+Craig> Me! Me! hahahah
[22:58]<+Craig> :"P
[22:58]<@BC_Programming> hi Craig
[22:58]<+Craig> How goes it?
[22:58]<@BC_Programming> I've been automating stuff in Minecraft with the snapshot
[22:59]<@BC_Programming> trying to make a fully automatic sugar cane farm using the light detector and hoppers
[23:17]<+Craig> hahaha nice
[23:18]<@BC_Programming> automatic as in I don't even need to hit a lever :D
[23:28]<+Craig> Nice, brb
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[23:41]<@BC_Programming> well that was fing retarded
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[23:46]<Craig> Annd, I am back :P
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[23:46]<@BC_Programming> I think mob spawning is screwy in the snapshot
[23:46]<+Craig> But I still only have 24GB.... :( I have 32GB physical though and it says my board supports it... ?
[23:46]<+Craig> Oh?
[23:47]<@BC_Programming> literally a dozen creepers in my storage room
[23:47]<@BC_Programming> and I have no idea how they got in there since it's lit up
[23:47]<@BC_Programming> and other mobs appearing all over my base where they shouldn't be able to, and weren't before
[23:48]<+Craig> Interesting
[23:48]<+Craig> That actually sounds like a serious bug :P
[23:48]<@BC_Programming> yeah zombies spawned inside my village
[23:48]<@BC_Programming> and infected them all :/
[23:49]<+Craig> Awwww
[23:49]<@BC_Programming> I'm going to check the bugtracker see if this is known
[23:54]<+Craig> Any clue why my ASUS motherboard only registers 24GB ram, but the sticks claim their all 8GB?
[23:55]<@BC_Programming> Motherboard limitation?
[23:55]<+Craig> It states 32GB max
[23:55]<+Craig> :P
[23:56]<@BC_Programming> well one reason is if you have three sticks
[23:56]<+Craig> Nop 4 :P
[23:57]<@BC_Programming> this is going to sound strange
[23:57]<@BC_Programming> but do you have a floppy drive connected?
[23:58]<@BC_Programming> I found some stuff online where people with ASUS motherboards were only recognizing 24GB
[23:58]<@BC_Programming> and one of them solved it by simply plugging in a floppy drive
[23:58]<@BC_Programming> which doesn't make any sense to me at all