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[13:50]<lucifer> dude ... i think i found something ...
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Session Start: Sun Jun 17 17:55:09 2012 Session Ident: #glitchpc [17:55] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[17:55] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[18:17]<Nat> hello
[18:21]<Nat> you there Mulreay?
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[18:37]<Lucifer> i might be buying a macbook and fixing it up
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[21:26]<Nat> hello
[21:29]<+camerongray> hey Nat
[21:30]<Nat> what's new cameron?
[21:30]<+camerongray> Trying to learn objective-c :P
[21:30]<+camerongray> It's EVIL!!!!
[21:31]<Nat> hehe
[21:31]<Nat> its pretty bad
[21:31]<+camerongray> yeah
[21:31]<Nat> it doesn't follow C syntax
[21:31]<Nat> it just sucks
[21:31]<Nat> i don't know why it exists
[21:31]<+camerongray> yeah!
[21:32]<Nat> most people i know use Cocoa headers for C and C++
[21:32]<+camerongray> And this is what my holiday has turned in to :P
[21:32]<Nat> you'll never believe what i just found inside a computer
[21:32]<+camerongray> lol, what?
[21:32]<Nat> i was disassembling a late 90's NEC computer
[21:32]<Nat> for parts
[21:32]<Nat> so i took out the floppy drive, no problems, then i took out the CD drive
[21:33]<Nat> and i noticed something weird on the label
[21:33]<Nat> it turns out NEC used Apple CD drives in their computers because they used a propiretary pin combo
[21:33]<Nat> it has to be the weirdest things i've ever seen
[21:34]<+camerongray> wow!
[21:34]<+camerongray> yeah, very strange
[21:35]<Nat> that also meant that i can't use the CD or the floppy drive for what i wanted
[21:35]<+camerongray> ahh :(
[21:35]<+camerongray> What do you think of the retina mbp?
[21:36]<Nat> me and H4XG33K went to the mall to check them out
[21:36]<Nat> you can't really see the retina-ness unless you look really up close
[21:36]<Nat> it IS much thinner
[21:36]<Nat> its kind of a comprimise the whole thing
[21:36]<lucifer> im gonna buy a macbook here soon
[21:36]<Nat> you told me
[21:37]<+camerongray> Yeah, I went to an apple store too
[21:37]<+camerongray> I did like the way you could scale stuff smaller
[21:37]<+camerongray> But no way to upgrade it :(
[21:37]<+camerongray> And only 15"
[21:38]<lucifer> camerongray im buying the 15" though mines the 2007 model
[21:38]<+camerongray> Cool!
[21:38]<lucifer> meaning upgrades :D
[21:38]<+camerongray> I need a 13" as I'll be carrying it around at university
[21:39]<+camerongray> It sucks that there are no apple stores near me :(
[21:39]<+camerongray> So I end up spending my holidays in them instead :P
[21:39]<lucifer> im buying mine for $40 because it needs ram hard drive and charger
[21:39]<lucifer> everything else is good lol
[21:40]<+camerongray> $40??!?!?!
[21:40]<lucifer> yeah
[21:40]<+camerongray> Well, that is VERY cheap!
[21:40]<lucifer> http://fortwayne.craigslist.org/sys/3003674816.html
[21:41]<+camerongray> That's insanely cheap!
[21:41]<+camerongray> Worth at least $300
[21:41]<lucifer> i know
[21:41]<lucifer> i find really good deals
[21:41]<Nat> its broken
[21:42]<+camerongray> Sounds like my i7 920 & ASUS P6T Deluxe v2 for ?60
[21:42]<lucifer> nat easy fix
[21:42]<Nat> yep
[21:43]<+camerongray> Going to the Fifth Avenue apple store in a week :D
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[21:43]<lucifer> he's too excited ...
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[21:43]<lucifer> smooth
[21:44]<lucifer> camerongray i might actually just sell the macbook once fixed
[21:44]<+camerongray> lol
[21:44]<+camerongray> hmm, could do
[21:44]<lucifer> make an insane amount of money from it lol
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[21:45]<lucifer> 5
[21:45]<lucifer> 4
[21:45]<lucifer> 3
[21:45]<lucifer> 2
[21:45]<lucifer> 1
[21:45]<lucifer> aww ... he's not back yet ...
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[21:47]<+camerongray> oops
[21:48]<lucifer> yep definitely too excited ...
[21:48]<+camerongray> lol, battery ran out
[21:48]<lucifer> lol
[21:48]<+camerongray> Then I almost died
[21:48]<+camerongray> Whoever designed USA wall outlets should be shot
[21:48] * lucifer thanks god for the extended battery in his thinkpad
[21:48]<+camerongray> lol
[21:49]<+camerongray> I plugged my charger in and a spark shot out!
[21:49]<lucifer> camerongray yeah i know ... the only outlet in my room sparks and the plugs dont stay in
[21:49]<+camerongray> lol, my charger is hanging out
[21:50]<lucifer> i seriously plug things in in my sleep
[21:50]<+camerongray> lol
[21:50]<+camerongray> And there are live pins exposed!
[21:50]<+camerongray> And it's not grounded
[21:51]<lucifer> camerongray my laptop and a couple of my desktop's cords are one of the few that stay in my wall outlet
[21:51]<+camerongray> No chance they would be legal in the UK
[21:51]<lucifer> camerongray one of my old laptops was from the uk
[21:51]<+camerongray> cool
[21:51]<+camerongray> UK outlets are soooo safe!
[21:51]<+camerongray> You can switch them off
[21:52]<+camerongray> And the ground pin makes contact before any others
[21:52]<lucifer> agree ... my adapter you have to literally yank the side out
[21:52]<+camerongray> And live pins have plastic bits so by the time electrical contact is made, no metal is exposed
[21:52]<lucifer> camerongray my thinkpad came without a grounded charger
[21:53]<+camerongray> Yeah, some things aren't
[21:53]<+camerongray> But ALL have a pin
[21:53]<lucifer> yeah
[21:53]<+camerongray> Helps keep the plug in the wall
[21:53]<lucifer> camerongray my thinkpad isnt uk
[21:53]<+camerongray> ahh
[21:54]<+camerongray> There's also a child safety bit where the earth pin opens "shutters" over the live pins
[21:54]<+camerongray> US ones seriously freak me out!
[21:54]<lucifer> ive shocked myself 4 times by an outlet
[21:54]<+camerongray> ouch!
[21:55]<lucifer> all 4 on purpose too
[21:55]<+camerongray> lol
[21:55]<+camerongray> why?
[21:55]<lucifer> idk bored ... lol
[21:56]<lucifer> first time tickled so did the 2nd time though i blew a fuse .... 3rd and 4th time i didnt feel a thing and i still blew a fuse
[21:56]<+camerongray> lol
[21:57]<lucifer> it doesnt hurt anymore
[21:57]<+camerongray> I suppose you are only 115v
[21:57]<+camerongray> UK is 230v
[21:57]<lucifer> 4th time was 220volt ...
[21:58]<lucifer> oh well
[21:58]<+camerongray> lol
[21:59]<lucifer> i also like that the uk plugs have built in fuses
[21:59]<+camerongray> yeah
[21:59]<+camerongray> And many modern houses have RCDs on the outlets
[22:00]<lucifer> not my house but my house is built in the 1880's too
[22:01]<+camerongray> ahh
[22:01]<+camerongray> Mine is 1960s
[22:02]<+camerongray> Wiring is still a mess!
[22:02]<lucifer> yeah
[22:05]<+camerongray> I guess I better go back to objective c
[22:05]<lucifer> why?
[22:05]<+camerongray> Need to learn it
[22:05]<+camerongray> Well, I don't really
[22:06]<+camerongray> Trying to justify buying an iPod Touch by saying I'll use it for app development
[22:06]<+camerongray> TheNewBoston rules!
[22:07]<+camerongray> He just explains things well
[22:07]<lucifer> heh
[22:07]<lucifer> he does
[22:07]<+camerongray> I learned java from him too
[22:08]<+camerongray> I should probably focus more on Java, need it for university in September
[22:08]<+camerongray> Pretty easy though
[22:09]<lucifer> heh ... someone tried saying how java needed an "engine" to run on
[22:09]<lucifer> i told him browsers are one and he started freaking out saying that they arent
[22:10]<+camerongray> lol
[22:10]<+camerongray> So glad they use Java at Edinburgh Uni, some used C#.net
[22:10]<lucifer> yeah
[22:10]<+camerongray> And they use Linux PCs XD
[22:11]<lucifer> :D
[22:11]<lucifer> out school uses apple
[22:11]<lucifer> our*
[22:12]<lucifer> so if i keep the macbook (i might) it would instantly get cleared by the school to use during a study hall
[22:12]<+camerongray> Mine used ancient Athlon 64 HPs
[22:13]<lucifer> funny thing ... the macbook is a macbook pro ... i looked up the looks of each different version and the pro version is what that is
[22:13]<+camerongray> yeah
[22:13]<lucifer> its a real good buy
[22:13]<+camerongray> The school are meant to be replacing the PCs this summer
[22:13]<+camerongray> But instead upgraded them to 2gb RAM
[22:13]<lucifer> we are getting ipad in the next 3 years
[22:14]<lucifer> lol
[22:14]<+camerongray> Which makes NO difference to them since the 1.9GHz CPUs and slow HDDs are the bottlenecks
[22:14]<lucifer> our school upgrades our macs every 2 years ...
[22:14]<+camerongray> Mine got them when I started 6 years ago
[22:15]<lucifer> we have all new imacs with the i7 in them
[22:15]<+camerongray> How rich is your school?!?!?!
[22:15]<lucifer> we still have work problems on them in a couple of classes
[22:15]<+camerongray> Before that they had Pentium Pro Windows NT 4.0 systems
[22:15]<lucifer> camerongray not really but we have state grants for tech
[22:15]<+camerongray> Ahh
[22:16]<+camerongray> Well, I never need to go back to school again!!!! They can all suffer their PCs MUAHAHA!
[22:16]<lucifer> lol
[22:17]<lucifer> all schools in my area have macs ... my old school had the mac mini for their desktops .... those are horrible
[22:17]<+camerongray> I am serious when I say this...
[22:17]<+camerongray> The school's server room is in the cleaner;s cupboard
[22:17]<lucifer> so if ours ....
[22:17]<+camerongray> The cleaner even managed to spill some cleaner through the switches
[22:18]<+camerongray> That was fun!
[22:18]<lucifer> we have so much server problems .... our teacher plans ahead so for 18 weeks of school we actually have around 16 or 17 weeks of actual work
[22:18]<+camerongray> lol
[22:19]<+camerongray> And support is useless! They replace broken PCs with broken ones
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[22:19]<lucifer> last year we had the server go down for close to a month
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[22:19]<lucifer> last year we had the server go down for close to a month^
[22:19]<+camerongray> Wow!
[22:19]<+camerongray> Each pupil gets 50mb server space1
[22:20]<Nat> nice!
[22:20]<lucifer> we have like 10 - 20 gb of server space
[22:20]<+camerongray> lol, You do realise I said Megabyte :P
[22:21]<lucifer> i do
[22:21]<+camerongray> This results in people bringing in flash drives and getting viruses on the network
[22:21]<lucifer> thats small ... lol
[22:21]<+camerongray> But that's okay, they use McAfee!
[22:21]<lucifer> we dont even have an antivirus
[22:22]<lucifer> we're just told not to use flash drives at all
[22:22]<+camerongray> ahh
[22:22]<+camerongray> makes sense
[22:22]<lucifer> then we get complained how we dont get work done because they only give us 3 days in the lab to work on them
[22:22]<+camerongray> it's a complete mess
[22:22]<+camerongray> lol
[22:23]<lucifer> even still we get viruses ...
[22:23]<+camerongray> At least at university they have a network of sandy bridge i3 linux boxes that's properly maintained
[22:23]<Nat> my school is trying a program where they actually force a student to buy a macbook
[22:24]<Nat> its failing to say the least
[22:24]<lucifer> yeah ... thats what their trying to force on the ipads too
[22:24]<+camerongray> lol
[22:25]<+camerongray> I used to just take my ThinkPad L512 (and later my MBP) and use that instead
[22:25]<+camerongray> Couldn't use the network but I tethered to my phone
[22:27]<lucifer> camerongray i soft hacked my way into the router last year and now i know the wifi password at my school
[22:27]<+camerongray> lol
[22:27]<+camerongray> We don;t have wifi
[22:28]<+camerongray> But the building is over 100 years old so too thick for wifi
[22:28]<lucifer> so is ours..... we have over 5 wifi transmitters in the school
[22:29]<lucifer> and theres still rooms that have no wifi
[22:29]<+camerongray> ahh
[22:29]<lucifer> the IT isnt smart ... actually the IT is a female too
[22:29]<+camerongray> lol
[22:30]<+camerongray> Our IT is outsourced
[22:30]<lucifer> lesbian and a female IT ... it isnt a good combination
[22:30]<+camerongray> now now, not time to discriminate!
[22:30]<lucifer> allmost all out teachers are girls ....
[22:30]<+camerongray> We have pretty much 50/50
[22:31]<+camerongray> Well, had, I'm not at school any more!
[22:31]<+camerongray> Just beginning to set in
[22:31]<lucifer> our principle is sexest towards men ....
[22:31]<+camerongray> Graduated just over a week ago
[22:31]<+camerongray> ahh
[22:31]<lucifer> nice
[22:31]<+camerongray> What year are you in at school?
[22:31]<lucifer> im going into 10th grade
[22:32]<+camerongray> cool
[22:32]<lucifer> 2 years till graduating
[22:32]<+camerongray> ahh
[22:32]<+camerongray> What do you plan to do after that?
[22:33]<lucifer> ill probly study computers at a local college then airforce
[22:33]<lucifer> aka ill be an officer when i join if i do that
[22:34]<lucifer> btw camerongray with that macbook ... i offered the guy 40 instead of 80 and he took it
[22:34]<+camerongray> nice!
[22:34]<+camerongray> Nat: What do you plan on doing after school?
[22:35]<lucifer> someone fell outta bed .......
[22:35]<+camerongray> ?
[22:35]<Nat> hopefully get a CS degree
[22:36]<lucifer> camerongray i heard thumps
[22:36]<+camerongray> ahh :P
[22:36]<Nat> i'm most interested in doing low-level kernel programming
[22:36]<+camerongray> YAY, SAME!
[22:36]<+camerongray> Oh shut up ChanbotV
[22:36]<Nat> lylz
[22:36]<Nat> *lulz
[22:36]<Nat> yeah
[22:36]<+camerongray> I'm doing Computer Science BSc a Edinburgh University
[22:36]<Nat> though looking through the Linux source is a pain
[22:37]<Nat> oh wow
[22:37]<Nat> nice
[22:37]<+camerongray> One of the best UK universities for it
[22:37]<+camerongray> Plus I can pretty much walk to it
[22:37]<+camerongray> By pretty much I mean I COULD but can't be bothered
[22:38]<Nat> Xd
[22:38]<+camerongray> And I get 24 hour computer lab access
[22:39]<lucifer> nice :D
[22:39]<Nat> boss
[22:39]<Nat> any supercomputers there?
[22:39]<lucifer> should have 3-4
[22:40]<Nat> not all unis have them
[22:40]<lucifer> i know
[22:40]<Nat> i once got to visit USC's quantum computing lab
[22:41]<lucifer> O.o
[22:41]<+camerongray> http://www.hector.ac.uk/
[22:41]<Nat> unfortunetly, their quantum computer is less than functional
[22:41]<lucifer> lol
[22:41]<+camerongray> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HECToR
[22:41]<Nat> woah
[22:42]<Nat> i bet you could have 5 games of minecraft running on that thing at the same time
[22:42]<+camerongray> lol
[22:43]<+camerongray> 90TB RAM!
[22:43]<lucifer> nat and all in farlands
[22:43]<Nat> nah
[22:43]<+camerongray> 90,112 cores
[22:43]<Nat> too much lag
[22:43]<Nat> from what i've seen in the source code minecraft has no multiprocessing support
[22:44]<Nat> almost everything is done in a single thread syncronized by the frame buffer
[22:44]<Nat> so one slow process can slow down the whole game
[22:44]<+camerongray> ahh
[22:45]<+camerongray> Doubt I'll get to use hector :P
[22:46]<Nat> you'd have to be at least a grad student if not a researcher
[22:46]<+camerongray> yeah
[22:46]<+camerongray> They have banks of servers that we can use, but not the same ;P
[22:50]<Nat> XD
[22:51]<+camerongray> I will be able to use this system: http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/information-services/services/research-support/research-computing/ecdf/
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[22:54]<Nat> so much compiling
[22:54]<+camerongray> ,
[22:54]<+camerongray> lol*
[22:55]<Nat> interestingly enough i have access to UCLA and USC's equivalent of this because i interned with researchers there
[22:55]<Nat> i have yet to use it though
[22:57]<+camerongray> sweet!
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[22:57]<lucifer> next year i should be able to use the us gov't equivalent of it
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[22:57]<+camerongray> The system runs scientific linux
[22:59]<lucifer> lol .... second night in a row i made this one person mad .... i keep on outbidding this guy and winning on a game
[23:00]<lucifer> what .... he bids on high dollar stuff at like 15K credits .... i bid on stuff for 20K
[23:01]<Nat> nice, but there are so many databanks they have
[23:01]<Nat> CIA, FBI, White House has one
[23:01]<Nat> Pentagon
[23:01]<Nat> Naval submarines
[23:01]<+camerongray> g2g, getting late :P
[23:01]<lucifer> ok camerongray
[23:02]<lucifer> nsa nat
[23:02] * camerongray (camerongra@48468DE.7F0CC5C0.4D03E4A3.IP) Quit (Quit: camerongray)
[23:02]<Nat> oh you told me about this
[23:02]<lucifer> yeah ...