Session Start: Tue Apr 10 00:00:00 2012 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[08:12]<+Craig> Hey Jacky,
[08:12]<@jacky> Craig: Hello
[08:12]<+Craig> Having any issues connecting to the server or such?
[08:12]<@jacky> no.. I don't think so
[08:12]<@jacky> I think I connected today... hehe
[08:12]<+Craig> Cool, just checking
[08:12]<@jacky> sometimes, I do things out of habit...
[08:13]<@jacky> what's new with you? much?
[08:15]<+Craig> Lots of work, and no time to do it. :p
[08:15]<@jacky> heh
[08:15]<@jacky> that'll keep you out of trouble then
[08:16]<+Craig> not really, I am an expert at putting trouble in any amount of time possible. :P
[08:16]<@jacky> hehehe
[08:16]<@jacky> ok
[08:16]<@jacky> hehehe
[08:39]<+Craig> Hey Mulreay, why don't you join http://www.onforce.co.uk/?
[08:40]<+Craig> Dang their not in the UK JUST yet...
[08:40]<+Craig> Hey BC_Programming you there?
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[08:52]<+Craig> Hey Pottsi
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[08:53]<@jacky> pottsi: Hello
[08:54]<+pottsi> hey Craig
[08:54]<+pottsi> hey jacky
[08:54]<+pottsi> sorry i've not been able to reply/test what you said
[08:54]<+Craig> Hey Pottsi, are you a computer tech?
[08:54]<+pottsi> i've a job interview tomorrow
[08:54]<+pottsi> hmm
[08:55]<@jacky> pottsi: np. :)
[08:55]<+pottsi> i would like to think so Craig, sup?
[08:55]<+Craig> You should join OnForce.com :) I am on it, and I have gotten a lot of very well paying jobs. :)
[08:55]<+Craig> If all else fails at least there are HP jobs. :p
[08:56]<+pottsi> will check it out
[08:56]<+pottsi> :D
[08:56]<+Craig> https://canada.onforce.com/servicepro/133655 <- check out my profile. :)
[08:56]<+Craig> You could join under my name if you like as well. :)
[09:00]<+pottsi> intresting
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[12:21]<@BC_Programming> hey Craig
[12:25]<+Craig> BC!!! Do you live in Vancouve?
[12:25]<+Craig> Vancouver*
[12:26]<@BC_Programming> no
[12:26]<+camerongray> hey Craig & BC_Programming
[12:26]<+Craig> How far are you from there?
[12:26]<+Craig> Hey Cameron
[12:26]<@BC_Programming> across the strait on Vancouver Island
[12:26]<+Craig> Hmmm,
[12:26]<+Craig> how far is that?
[12:27]<@BC_Programming> a few hours by ferry
[12:27]<+Craig> How much does it cost to take the ferry, and is there a faster way?
[12:27]<@BC_Programming> I don't know how much it costs
[12:28]<@BC_Programming> only other ways are slower, iirc
[12:28]<+Craig> hmmm
[12:28]<@BC_Programming> I think it's probably 20-30 dollars, not sure though
[12:28]<+Craig> Thats not bad,
[12:29]<@BC_Programming> that's pretty much just a guess though, heh
[12:29]<@BC_Programming> brb
[12:30]<@BC_Programming> back
[12:38]<@BC_Programming> heh we're ignoring Camerongray :P
[12:38]<+camerongray> lol
[12:38]<@BC_Programming> Hello Camerongray :)
[12:38]<+camerongray> hey
[12:38]<@BC_Programming> whew that's settled
[12:39]<+camerongray> lol
[12:48]<+Craig> I said hi?
[12:48]<@BC_Programming> oh
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[12:55]<+Craig> Laterzs guys, gotta go to work. :p
[13:03]<@BC_Programming> oh wow... the guy I'm working for on FreeLancer must be very impressed with my work
[13:03]<@BC_Programming> since he just gave me 100$ bonus
[13:03]<@BC_Programming> $100 rather
[13:11]<+camerongray> nice!
[13:11]<@BC_Programming> that'll be on top of the 230 for the project itself too :P
[13:17]<Nepherius> didnt you complain a while ago that freelancer is a scam ?:)
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[13:20]<@BC_Programming> I was concerned that it was for a while
[13:23]<@BC_Programming> since it took like 3 weeks for the first $$$ transfer
[13:24]<Nepherius> eh, well gratz for your bonus :)
[13:24]<@BC_Programming> yeah the bonus was actually directly to my paypal, I think he used the donate button on my site
[13:26]<Nepherius> you must have done some impresive work ...
[13:26]<@BC_Programming> it was funny because he told me about the issue and I worked for three days on it
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[13:27]<@BC_Programming> and 5 minutes after I finished it he said the same problem was in other tools for the same purpose
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> then I said "well your's will be better :P" and attached a screenshot of the "fixed" issue
[13:27]<Nepherius> :)
[13:28]<@BC_Programming> he was all apologetic "sorry for wasting your time on this" type stuff, heh
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[13:28]<@BC_Programming> Longest Common Subsequence diff algorithm with Semantic processing
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> Hmmm
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> my website stats are interesting... in January I got 10K hits total
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> every month afterward it doubled the one before; feb is ~20K, march is ~40K; April is already at 20K for the past 10 days
[14:38]<@BC_Programming> hmm.... I'm getting most of my hits from a single IP
[14:38]<@BC_Programming> I figured it was mine... but mine is second... this person is going to my page more than I am
[14:38]<@BC_Programming> apparently it's in Aubrey
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[15:20]<@BC_Programming> wb
[15:33]<+camerongray> thanks
[15:34]<+camerongray> I'm discovering the joys of an unmanaged VPS :P
[15:34]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[15:34]<+camerongray> How on earth do I add the email to outlook
[15:34]<+camerongray> No idea what the imap settings are, I can use Roundcube (Webmail Client) but nothing else
[15:34]<+camerongray> And round cube's server settings simply point to localhost
[15:35]<@BC_Programming> don't look at me, I'm lucky if I can get thunderbird working with my bcp e-mail
[15:35]<+camerongray> lol
[15:35]<@BC_Programming> seriously, I gave up and just use the webmail in the cpanel now, lol
[15:36]<+camerongray> But you don't have your mother trying to use an account on it :P
[15:36]<+camerongray> Won't move from outlook
[15:36]<@BC_Programming> oooh
[15:36]<@BC_Programming> well my mom actually has a @bc-programming e-mail
[15:36]<@BC_Programming> but she's never used it herself
[15:36]<@BC_Programming> she can barely use a computer :/
[15:37]<+camerongray> lol
[15:37]<@BC_Programming> she asked once why the pointer works so stupid. She was using the mouse backwards
[15:37]<+camerongray> BAHAHA!
[15:38]<@BC_Programming> "I just want to check my facepage"
[15:38]<+camerongray> Mine is convinced that her email is broken after outlook crashed ONCE when she tried to send around 50 raw images from an 18mp DSLR
[15:38]<+camerongray> Try building your mum a website!
[15:38]<@BC_Programming> heh
[15:39]<+camerongray> Refuses to let me show her how to add links, she's taken to adding [link] next to where she wants links for me to add
[15:39]<@BC_Programming> she tried to get me to design a page for one of her friends, a business site for a hair salon or something, think I mentioned it here
[15:39]<+camerongray> Can't remember it
[15:40]<@BC_Programming> what I didn't mention was the short discussion about it I had with that friend
[15:40]<+camerongray> lol
[15:40]<+camerongray> clientsfromhell.net?
[15:40]<@BC_Programming> after detailing all sorts of stuff it needed- working out that it would probably need MySQL, PHP, etc
[15:40]<@BC_Programming> could go there
[15:40]<@BC_Programming> server costs, etc
[15:40]<+camerongray> lol
[15:40]<@BC_Programming> she says "sounds good, so how much do I have to pay you, like 20 dollars?"
[15:40]<@BC_Programming> I laughed because I thought it was a joke
[15:41]<@BC_Programming> but she was serious
[15:41]<+camerongray> lol
[15:41]<+camerongray> I'm getting ?250 for this
[15:41]<@BC_Programming> "But you can add it to your portfolio!"
[15:41]<+camerongray> But I'm hosting it as well
[15:41]<+camerongray> I'm beginning to regret using my own CMS!
[15:41]<@BC_Programming> heh Mine works :P
[15:42]<+camerongray> I keep getting emails (she emails me from downstairs :P) saying things like "Why doesn't X button do anything" or "I left this box blank and now it's giving me an odd error about PHP"
[15:42]<@BC_Programming> although the download counts seem to be random, oh well
[15:42]<+camerongray> lol
[15:42]<+camerongray> The main issue with mine is ckeditor
[15:42]<+camerongray> It likes to comment out apostrophes in the text
[15:43]<@BC_Programming> oh yeah and there was another "friend" who rambled on about moving her data to the cloud
[15:43]<@BC_Programming> "But everybody uses a cloud now, aren't they like satellites, but in the sky?"
[15:43]<@BC_Programming> *facepalm*
[15:43]<+camerongray> lol
[15:43]<@BC_Programming> I'm DEAD SERIOUS exact quote
[15:43]<+camerongray> The cloud is the solution to everything!
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> turns out her "data" is a Access database
[15:44]<+camerongray> lol
[15:44]<+camerongray> Got a new PC order for someone :D
[15:44]<+camerongray> Nothing fancy
[15:44]<+camerongray> Pentium Dual Core G620
[15:44]<+camerongray> 4gb RAM
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> and I finally got out of her the "real" question, which was basically that she wanted the primary key to only be 5 numbers but wanted to magically be able to hold more than 99999 entries
[15:44]<+camerongray> 320gb 7200rpm
[15:44]<+camerongray> lol
[15:44]<+camerongray> Basic mATX board and case
[15:45]<@BC_Programming> "Can't it like, roll over to the start"
[15:45]<+camerongray> And a PSU that's probably the equivalent of a AA battery
[15:45]<@BC_Programming> "well yes if you don't want the ones using those values"
[15:45]<+camerongray> lol
[15:45]<@BC_Programming> "yeah but can't two of them like use the same unique number?"
[15:45]<@BC_Programming> q_q
[15:46]<@BC_Programming> that PC config sounds pretty much like my brothers PC
[15:46]<@BC_Programming> though his has a 9800GTX+ in it
[15:46]<@BC_Programming> yes my brothers video card is technically better than my own, heh
[15:46]<+camerongray> Yeah, this is onboard graphics
[15:46]<+camerongray> The pentium dual core sandy bridges are decent chips
[15:46]<+camerongray> Bear in mind this is for a pair of OAPs :P
[15:47]<+camerongray> 22" monitor, font size WAY up :P
[15:47]<@BC_Programming> OAP= Old Age Pensioner?
[15:47]<+camerongray> yeah
[15:47]<@BC_Programming> apparently my old CRT still works, I thought it was broken
[15:48]<+camerongray> cool
[15:48]<@BC_Programming> of course in my infinite wisdom I threw out my only other PS/2 keyboard when I moved, haha
[15:49]<+camerongray> lol
[15:49]<+camerongray> With this build they want a nice new setup yet want to keep the old dell keyboard to save ?5 for a new one :P
[15:50]<@BC_Programming> I could use it with my laptop
[15:50]<@BC_Programming> though when I say "Old" CRT I mean old... 13" 1024x768
[15:50]<@BC_Programming> looks like it has a crappy dot pitch too
[15:50]<+camerongray> Best thing, they are "Mr Incompetent"'s grandparents and he will be there :P
[15:50]<@BC_Programming> oh dear
[15:50]<+camerongray> lol
[15:50]<+camerongray> "This looks cool" as he waves the motherboard around :P
[15:51]<+camerongray> He's not as bad as he was
[15:51]<+camerongray> But I hope he doesn't break anything :P
[15:51]<@BC_Programming> or while you are going to get something he plugs every connector inside the PC into something
[15:51]<+camerongray> This is the guy who has smashed his iPhone 4's screen 3 times and stood on his laptop!
[15:51]<+camerongray> lol
[15:51]<@BC_Programming> My brother tried to "fix" my 486 computer when I was in Victoria for a year
[15:52]<@BC_Programming> apparently he decided he was PC tech too... his solution was to make sure every loose cable was plugged into something
[15:52]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, that was the iPhone 4 he got to replace the 3GS that ended up in the pool
[15:52]<+camerongray> And that 3GS was a replacement to the Nokia 5800 that fell in a pile of snow
[15:52]<@BC_Programming> so there were power connectors plugged into jumpers on the video card, on random slots... fried the MB I think
[15:53]<@BC_Programming> there is something sad about people with extremely expensive stuff like iPhones treating them really casually
[15:53]<+camerongray> hahaha
[15:53]<+camerongray> True
[15:54]<+camerongray> This wasn't him not taking care it was "OH MY GOD IT'S VIBRATING" as he throws it on the floor
[15:54]<@BC_Programming> oh
[15:54]<@BC_Programming> wow
[15:54]<@BC_Programming> well you do call him Mr.Incompetent for a reason
[15:54]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, forgot about his laptop with a detached screen
[15:54]<@BC_Programming> have you considered that he hasn't actually gotten better, but that you've become used to it in some degree?
[15:55]<+camerongray> Before it completely came off he said "I don't know why it's like that" as he picks it up by the screen and carries it across the room
[15:55]<+camerongray> lol - Been used to it after 10 years :P
[15:55]<@BC_Programming> yeah that would do it
[15:56]<+camerongray> Some things still surprise me
[15:56]<+camerongray> Phone rings "CAMERON! We need your laptop to play backing tracks at the community fund raiser event"
[15:57]<@BC_Programming> I signed up on this tech site with Craig's help earlier... would be hilarious if at some point I got tasked with fixing a touchscreen POS where I used to work
[15:57]<+camerongray> 5 mins before it was due to start
[15:57]<@BC_Programming> haha
[15:57]<+camerongray> lol
[15:57]<+camerongray> What would they have done if I wasn't in
[15:58]<+camerongray> "Oh sorry Mr Local Celebrity Guest, we don't have any music for the people to dance to"
[15:58]<@BC_Programming> You know what you do, is you answer calls from them with a different name
[15:58]<@BC_Programming> "Hello this is Murphy"
[15:58]<+camerongray> lol
[15:58]<@BC_Programming> and then they can "ask" for cameron
[15:58]<@BC_Programming> and you can decide whether you want to talk to them
[15:58]<+camerongray> lol
[15:58]<@BC_Programming> and then you can blame communication problems on Murphy, it's perfect
[15:58]<+camerongray> Consider what he could be wanting
[15:59]<+camerongray> The funny thing was that as he phoned I was in the process of taking the SSD out the laptop in preparation for the MacBook
[15:59]<+camerongray> Had to throw it back together
[16:04]<@BC_Programming> wow playing MC on my desktop feels totally different now
[16:04]<@BC_Programming> so silky smooth
[16:04]<+camerongray> Nice!
[16:04]<+camerongray> Got it connected?
[16:04]<@BC_Programming> what no
[16:04]<@BC_Programming> I mean SSP
[16:04]<@BC_Programming> compared to my laptop which I'm used to playing on
[16:05]<@BC_Programming> or got used to playing on in multiplayer on the server
[16:05]<@BC_Programming> I think I can bridge the connection, iirc it was easier to do in Mint 12 than Mint 10
[16:05]<@BC_Programming> just haven't tried
[16:07]<+camerongray> ahh
[16:07]<@BC_Programming> I'm going to mark the spot the laptop is sitting with a marker though
[16:07]<@BC_Programming> so I don't lose it's sweet spot
[16:07]<@BC_Programming> heh
[16:07]<+camerongray> lol
[16:07]<+camerongray> And the position of everything in the room
[16:08]<+camerongray> And the weather :P
[16:08]<@BC_Programming> Actually I haven't disconnected for almost a week
[16:08]<+camerongray> nice
[16:08]<@BC_Programming> before when I got up there would be about 50 of those stupid auth dialogs
[16:08]<@BC_Programming> not sure why it needs more than one
[16:10]<+camerongray> lol
[16:13]<@BC_Programming> haha... just enchanted a level 50 diamond pick on my SSP
[16:13]<@BC_Programming> got exactly the same enchantments as one of my other picks that was almost gone
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> Eff IV, Fortune III, Unbreaking III
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> that's the ticket to mining
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> you use a silk touch pick to acquire the blocks for coal, redstone, lapis, etc
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> then you use the fortune pick on them when you get back to base
[16:18]<+camerongray> nice!
[16:19]<@BC_Programming> I have almost an entire double-chest filled with high-level enchanted tools on my SSP
[16:19]<+camerongray> Nice!
[16:19]<@BC_Programming> I've already managed to get more crap on the server than I can rightly organize so my next task will have to be a proper storage room
[16:19]<+camerongray> You should enchant mine on the server :P
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> I don't have a high-level enchanting table setup yet, need more shelves
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> and it takes forever to get to lvl 50 for the good ones
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> I got to like level 200 while building the skellie cannon on SSP
[16:20]<+camerongray> Ahh
[16:21]<+camerongray> I don't know anything about enchanting :P
[16:21]<@BC_Programming> trust me it's one of the most awesome parts of the game
[16:22]<+camerongray> lol
[16:22]<@BC_Programming> a diamond pick with a high efficiency level, I think four or higher, and you can actually mine out a ceiling without slowing down
[16:22]<+camerongray> nice!
[16:22]<@BC_Programming> or the two sides, you have to get the right angle though
[16:23]<+camerongray> sweet!
[16:26]<+camerongray> Woooo! Mailserver works
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[17:56]<@BC_Programming> http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
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[19:40]<@BC_Programming> ahhh SOOO close to setting up NAT
[19:40]<@BC_Programming> it sorta worked
[19:41]<@BC_Programming> but my laptop was flipping out with notifications "LAN 1 disconnected"
[19:41]<Nat> see this is why i hate IRC sometimes, everytime someone has a convo about routers and my nick gets mentioned all willy-nilly
[19:41]<@BC_Programming> LOL
[19:43]<Nat> finally found my USB controller
[19:43]<@BC_Programming> cool, I use a Logitech Dual Action myself
[19:44]<@BC_Programming> I have two for some reason
[19:44]<Nat> ah i've got the same ;)
[19:44]<Nat> cheap, but indestructable
[19:44]<@BC_Programming> I have a rumblepad 2, but no batteries
[19:46]<Nat> i don't see the need for rumble when all i do is play emulators
[19:47]<Nat> though i seem to have lost my N64 one
[19:47]<Nat> i probably could dust off my nintendo 64, but i'm pretty lazy
[19:48]<@BC_Programming> yeah the rumble is some proprietary thing
[19:48]<@BC_Programming> I think I got it working with project64, but it was really finicky
[19:48]<sonicrules1234> Nat: Rumble is needed to use the stone of agony in ocarina of time
[19:48]<@BC_Programming> for OOT I just use my Collectors Edition on GC :P
[19:48]<Nat> i don't think i ever got enough of those gold spider things to use it
[19:49]<@BC_Programming> :O
[19:49]<Nat> and i didn't have a rumble pak for my n64 anyways
[19:49]<sonicrules1234> And of course, when OOT came out in virtual console, it didn't use the wiimote's rumble or anything
[19:49]<Nat> wiimote doesn't have rumble from what i understand
[19:49]<sonicrules1234> It does too
[19:49]<Nat> the last console i had was an n64 :(
[19:49]<@BC_Programming> I have an SNES and a GC
[19:50]<sonicrules1234> I have a wii
[19:50]<sonicrules1234> And that's it
[19:50]<Nat> actually the only two consoles i own are n64 and an Atari 2600
[19:50]<Nat> and the Atari barely works
[19:50]<sonicrules1234> Parents wouldn't buy us consoles when we were little
[19:50]<@BC_Programming> I had to buy these ones... but I had an SNES and N64 that I got as birthday presents
[19:50]<sonicrules1234> Lucky
[19:50]<@BC_Programming> they got sold though when I was away >:(
[19:51]<sonicrules1234> >.>
[19:51]<Nat> Atari was my uncle's and the n64 is actually my sisters
[19:51]<Nat> i remember when i was younger they never let me play XD
[19:51]<Nat> i'm sure they'd still own me in mario kart
[19:51]<@BC_Programming> I was pissed when I got the SNES
[19:51]<@BC_Programming> because I wanted an NES, lol
[19:51]<sonicrules1234> Haha
[19:51]<Nat> though i was the master of super mario 64
[19:52]<Nat> ooooh that game was the best
[19:52]<@BC_Programming> I can't play that game, because I'm like doing a let's play and if I play it I'll feel obligated to continue it
[19:52]<Nat> XD
[19:53]<Nat> send me the game file and i'll do the next painting :D
[19:53]<sonicrules1234> I'm trying to remember what you got for killing 10 gold skullatulas
[19:53]<Nat> you got the bigger wallet
[19:53]<Nat> then you got the stone
[19:53]<Nat> then the giant wallet
[19:53]<@BC_Programming> adult wallet iirc
[19:53]<sonicrules1234> For just 10?
[19:53]<Nat> and i think after that you got UNLIMITED MONEYS
[19:53]<sonicrules1234> That can't be right
[19:53]<@BC_Programming> Nat: Unlimited moneys was 100
[19:54]<sonicrules1234> Nat: You had to get all 100 for unlimited monies
[19:54]<sonicrules1234> :p
[19:54]<@BC_Programming> although it was sorta pointless since you already could get unlimited moneys by just killing things with light arrows
[19:54]<sonicrules1234> I swear I remember having to get at least 20 for the adults wallet
[19:54]<@BC_Programming> it might start at 20
[19:54]<sonicrules1234> Yeah
[19:54]<sonicrules1234> And I thought stone of agony was before adults wallet
[19:55]<Nat> see
[19:55]<Nat> i wouldn't know since i never had a rumble pak
[19:55]<sonicrules1234> Nat: You would have know
[19:55]<sonicrules1234> It says "You got the Stone of Agony!"
[19:55]<sonicrules1234> Like it does with every other new item
[19:56]<@BC_Programming> well I just loaded a random state
[19:56]<sonicrules1234> Though in virtual console I got the adults wallet as the first prize
[19:56]<@BC_Programming> 30 skulltulas, have adults wallet and stone of agony
[19:57]<sonicrules1234> I'm thinking like, did they change it?
[19:57]<@BC_Programming> so thinking adult wallet, then stone of agony, starting at 20
[19:57]<sonicrules1234> Ah
[19:57]<Nat> i actually played the 3d ocarina of time recently
[19:57]<@BC_Programming> ok now I'm confused
[19:57]<Nat> headache inducing
[19:58]<@BC_Programming> another savestate, 39 skulltullas
[19:58]<Nat> but it was quite good after turning it off
[19:58]<@BC_Programming> giant's wallet & stone of agony
[19:58]<Nat> http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/House_of_Skulltula
[19:58]<@BC_Programming> but that takes the fun away
[19:59]<sonicrules1234> I always have the wiimote rumble turned off, so when we play gamecube games, I'm always startled by the rumble
[19:59]<@BC_Programming> I like my new method of going through the game where I glitch myself green gauntlets, which act like golden gauntlets
[19:59]<@BC_Programming> White hearts before forest temple ftw
[19:59]<Nat> XD
[19:59]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Which version of the game?
[20:00]<@BC_Programming> sonic: all of them... 1.0, 1.2, and the GC version.
[20:00]<sonicrules1234> Ah
[20:00]<@BC_Programming> I think the virtual console just uses a ROM, so it doesn't change it afaik
[20:00]<@BC_Programming> 1.2 fixes a few things like the swordless link thing
[20:00]<sonicrules1234> It doesn't just use only a rom
[20:00]<sonicrules1234> There's plenty of porting involved
[20:01]<sonicrules1234> I've been following the wii homebrew scene for a while
[20:01]<sonicrules1234> Although, they don't port the whole game over
[20:01]<sonicrules1234> Virtual console does plenty of emulating
[20:02]<sonicrules1234> Plus, they fixed some of the bugs from OOT in the virtual console one
[20:02]<sonicrules1234> And even more in the 3DS version
[20:02]<@BC_Programming> 3ds I can see... are you sure they didn't just use 1.2 for the VC though?
[20:02]<sonicrules1234> I read somewhere that they did some fixes
[20:03]<@BC_Programming> I wonder what they fixed though
[20:03]<sonicrules1234> Although that might have involved making some new bugs
[20:03]<@BC_Programming> Reverse Bottle Adventure probably
[20:03]<Nat> i actually heard that in the 3ds the emulated some of the bugs and glitches
[20:03]<sonicrules1234> Kinda like minecraft
[20:04]<@BC_Programming> heh I accidentally ruined a save when I first did the green gauntlets glitch
[20:04]<@BC_Programming> I managed to replace my bow in the inventory screen with something else
[20:04]<@BC_Programming> can't remember what it was
[20:04]<sonicrules1234> Haha
[20:04]<sonicrules1234> There's a risk of that kind of thing with the bottle glitch as well
[20:05]<@BC_Programming> well yeah, but only if you purposely switch to the item
[20:05]<@BC_Programming> RBA is some funky weird memory hacking
[20:05]<sonicrules1234> It can be done accidentally
[20:05]<@BC_Programming> I didn't even notice until I went to equip my bow and was like hey wtf
[20:06]<sonicrules1234> I read that the n64 had some really good defences against homebrew
[20:06]<sonicrules1234> Something involving a ticker
[20:07]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: I like that glitch where you get your sword moving super fast
[20:07]<@BC_Programming> what do you mean?
[20:07]<Nat> i think at the time it wasn't even homebrew is was just unlicensed companies getting around nintendo's restricions
[20:08]<sonicrules1234> You have to do something with your sword on one of those unbreakable signs
[20:08]<@BC_Programming> oh
[20:08]<sonicrules1234> Know which one I'm talking about?
[20:08]<@BC_Programming> you mean the one where it thinks your sword is "swinging" but it's not
[20:08]<sonicrules1234> Yeah
[20:08]<@BC_Programming> so it damages stuff
[20:09]<sonicrules1234> Yeah, but it makes the sword all glitchy
[20:09]<sonicrules1234> Its almost invincibility
[20:10]<@BC_Programming> it does some other stuff but I can't remember what it was
[20:10]<sonicrules1234> I think it keeps you from jumping
[20:10]<sonicrules1234> Or maybe if you jump it ends the effect
[20:11]<@BC_Programming> yeah something like that, keeps you from doing something anyway
[20:11]<@BC_Programming> I think the only thing that stops it is if you put the sword away or swing it
[20:11]<sonicrules1234> Yeah
[20:11]<Nat> while i appreciate the emulators recreating my old TV's flickery lines i can safely assume that this is more than annoying
[20:12]<sonicrules1234> Nat: Its not that, its doing a different type of display method than what your monitor does
[20:12]<sonicrules1234> I can't remember what its called
[20:12]<sonicrules1234> Oh yeah
[20:12]<@BC_Programming> interlacing?
[20:12]<Nat> yeah
[20:12]<sonicrules1234> Yep
[20:12]<Nat> i should turn on vsync right?
[20:12]<Nat> or am i thinking of something else...
[20:12]<sonicrules1234> Something like that
[20:13]<Nat> changing the video plugin was sufficient
[20:13]<sonicrules1234> What emulator are you using?
[20:13]<Nat> Mupen64
[20:13]<sonicrules1234> Ah
[20:13]<sonicrules1234> I couldn't get the flickering fixed in mupen64
[20:14]<@BC_Programming> they work the same for me in both
[20:14]<@BC_Programming> probably different plugin though
[20:15]<sonicrules1234> I remember at one point I got high resolution texture replacing working, but the only thing I replaced shield, which I put my face on
[20:15]<sonicrules1234> *was the shield
[20:15]<Nat> well now for the ultimate challenge
[20:15]<Nat> getting passed that yellow thing with the camera
[20:15]<Nat> without him talking to me
[20:15]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/images/ootlowhighcompare.jpeg
[20:15]<@BC_Programming> lakitu
[20:16]<@BC_Programming> then he's stuck in the ground iirc
[20:16]<sonicrules1234> Wait, what game is he playing?
[20:16]<Nat> Super Mario 64
[20:16]<Nat> ok
[20:16]<sonicrules1234> Oh
[20:16]<Nat> long jump on the right banister if iirc
[20:17]<Nat> son of a...
[20:17]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Problem with high resolution textures is that my computer already runs the game slowly
[20:17]<@BC_Programming> hehe
[20:17]<@BC_Programming> I dont use them, too much of a pain
[20:18]<sonicrules1234> Although, it looked like they used the smallest texture possible for the walls and stuff
[20:18]<sonicrules1234> Because it upscales to be so blurry
[20:19]<sonicrules1234> Even on a tv
[20:19]<@BC_Programming> because the cartridge format, low res textures
[20:19]<sonicrules1234> Yeah
[20:19]<Nat> well now time for a challenge
[20:19]<Nat> how far down can i carry king bob-omb?
[20:19]<sonicrules1234> But, even more so for OOT then other games
[20:19]<@BC_Programming> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piuL-bCr8Rw&list=UUr83sZS-oUNJafVBBemaTwg&index=4&feature=plcp
[20:20]<@BC_Programming> I tried the lakitu skip but failed miserably
[20:20]<Nat> XD
[20:20]<Nat> i misscalculated my long jumo
[20:20]<Nat> *jump
[20:21]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Also, I love how when you talk to the owl, the default answer makes him repeat
[20:21]<sonicrules1234> Makes people actually read the stuff
[20:21]<@BC_Programming> kaepora gaebora needs to die
[20:21]<sonicrules1234> :p
[20:23]<Nat> so far i've made it to the heart thingy
[20:23]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: In the high res texture that you posted, it looks like the eye has curvature, and isn't just flat
[20:23]<@BC_Programming> I think that's a bump map
[20:24]<sonicrules1234> Yeah, but doesn't that only work if you are viewing it at one angle?
[20:24]<@BC_Programming> no...
[20:24]<sonicrules1234> How does it work then?
[20:24]<@BC_Programming> ... It's a bump map...
[20:25]<@BC_Programming> bump maps work based on the position of the viewer and light sources
[20:25]<sonicrules1234> Yeah
[20:25]<sonicrules1234> So if the view looks at it at a different angle, it doesn't work
[20:25]<sonicrules1234> *viewer
[20:25]<@BC_Programming> no it works fine...
[20:26]<Nat> and the fun doesn't stop! http://cl.ly/1U3M2K0c2H230j2w3O2o
[20:26]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: I don't see how it would work unless you change the texture at every angle
[20:26]<@BC_Programming> that's what a bump map does
[20:26]<sonicrules1234> Oh, I thought it was a single texture
[20:27]<sonicrules1234> I wonder how they got the emulator to use a bump map instead of a static texture
[20:27]<@BC_Programming> Rice video plugin
[20:27]<sonicrules1234> Ah
[20:28]<@BC_Programming> that's one of the reasons I don't play with highres textures, that plugin is really finicky
[20:28]<sonicrules1234> Mhm
[20:28]<sonicrules1234> I remember a glitch involving being in mid air with the longshot
[20:29]<sonicrules1234> And it had something with epona
[20:29]<@BC_Programming> might only work with the swordless link thing, because that let's you use items on Epona for some reason
[20:29]<sonicrules1234> Yeah
[20:29]<sonicrules1234> It used that
[20:30]<@BC_Programming> I like the Tool Assisted speedruns of the game, insane stuff
[20:30]<sonicrules1234> Oh, I just remembered something that changed in the virtual console version
[20:30]<@BC_Programming> same with a lot of TAS's actually...
[20:30]<sonicrules1234> Remember that place that was fenced off behind the windmill in kakikaro?
[20:31]<@BC_Programming> I think so
[20:31]<sonicrules1234> Its not there in the virtual console version
[20:31]<@BC_Programming> just an invisible wall? or is it just a cliff
[20:31]<sonicrules1234> I remember seeing a howto to get back there, but I never got it to work
[20:32]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Can't remember, I just remember it not being there
[20:32]<sonicrules1234> I guess I can check if you want
[20:32]<@BC_Programming> not that important, just curious
[20:32]<sonicrules1234> Ok, good
[20:32]<@BC_Programming> heh
[20:32]<sonicrules1234> I really didn't want to do that
[20:33]<@BC_Programming> :P
[20:35]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Have you played Skyward Sword?
[20:35]<@BC_Programming> nope
[20:35]<@BC_Programming> don't have a wii
[20:35]<sonicrules1234> Aw
[20:35]<sonicrules1234> Its good stuff
[20:35]<sonicrules1234> The game that is
[20:35]<@BC_Programming> I do have a iso for dolphin but don't like messing about with the wii mote configuration stuff
[20:36]<sonicrules1234> You can't really do it in dolphin without a real wiimote and motion plus
[20:36]<@BC_Programming> yeah that's what I figured... I don't really have enough buttons to assign all the motion controls
[20:37]<sonicrules1234> You can't really do it with buttons anyways
[20:37]<@BC_Programming> well I mean axes & buttons
[20:38]<sonicrules1234> Dolphin doesn't support the wii motion plus emulation without actual wiimote and motion plus anymore
[20:38]<@BC_Programming> I only have 4 axes to work with on my controller.. which wasn't enough for all the motiony controls
[20:38]<sonicrules1234> Though, that might have changed by now
[20:41]<Nat> you can use a mobile phone with an accelerometer and a gyroscope
[20:42]<@BC_Programming> kind of funny that I have two mario paint carts, but no SNES mouse, lol
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[20:53]<@BC_Programming> now for minecraft
[20:55]<Nat> the owl in zelda may be annoying, but the owl in mario is a bro
[20:56]<@BC_Programming> "oh hey you woke me up, Imma fly around for no reason wanna come?"
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[21:07]<@BC_Programming> I made a song
[21:07]<@BC_Programming> My Little Browser
[21:07]<@BC_Programming> I used to wonder what the web could be (My Little Browser)
[21:07]<@BC_Programming> until I saw it's capability
[21:07]<@BC_Programming> big imagemaps
[21:07]<@BC_Programming> tons of links
[21:07]<@BC_Programming> a bueatiful style
[21:07]<@BC_Programming> emphasis and strong
[21:07]<@BC_Programming> using social media
[21:07]<@BC_Programming> it's an easy feat
[21:07]<@BC_Programming> and the Browser makes it all complete
[21:07]<@BC_Programming> yay
[21:09]<Nat> beautiful
[21:09]<@BC_Programming> I thought so
[21:09]<@BC_Programming> I should make another embarassing "I wrote a song but can't sing for crap" video
[21:16]<Nat> XD
[21:16]<@BC_Programming> the lyrics aren't terrible usually
[21:16]<@BC_Programming> I just give out the sound of a weasel stuck in a taffy pulling machine
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