Session Start: Fri Feb 10 00:00:00 2012
Session Ident: #glitchpc
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[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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Session Start: Fri Feb 10 03:05:09 2012
Session Ident: #glitchpc
[03:05] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[03:05] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[03:05] * Set by jacky on Tue Mar 02 11:03:23
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[04:54]<+Mulreay> !seen jacky
[04:57]<+Mulreay> !weather manchester uk
[04:58]<+Mulreay> I can attest to that... seriously nippy outside
[07:21]<Tux2> Mulreay:
[07:21]<Tux2> you still there?
[07:24]<+Mulreay> on the phone to Mum ...
[07:25]<Tux2> Ah, okay Mulreay
[07:44]<+Mulreay> OK here
[07:45]<+Mulreay> I have to go to the shops soon...
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[07:55]<@jacky> Mulreay: Hello :)
[07:55]<+Mulreay> Hey, jacky... bad timing brb
[07:56]<@jacky> np.. getting tea anyway
[07:56]<@jacky> yell, when you are back
[07:56]<@jacky> :)
[07:56]<@jacky>
[07:56]<@jacky>
[08:06]<@jacky> testing
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[08:54]<Calum> Hi all
[08:54]<@jacky> well.. look what the cat drug in!
[08:54]<@jacky> :)
[08:54]<@jacky> Hello!
[08:55]<Calum> Heh, just got your PM and I was lurking around in ch chat, figured I'd drop in
[08:55]<@jacky> I saw you where there again
[08:55]<@jacky> :)
[08:55]<@jacky> glutton for punishment?
[08:55]<@jacky> hehehe
[08:55]<Calum> I drop by now and again, rarely get involved in actually helping hehe
[08:56]<Calum> Not since some moron wandered in and engaged me in an argument, or attempted to
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[08:56]<@jacky> I feel the pulse there... it is not changed... the elite are smart asses to the little people
[08:56]<+camerongray> CALUM!!!
[08:56]<Calum> Yep
[08:56]<@jacky> How is Calum though? what's new?
[08:56]<Calum> hehe, hey there
[08:56]<@jacky> still building computers
[08:56]<@jacky> camerongray: Hello
[08:56]<@jacky> ?
[08:56]<Calum> Pretty good here...nah, I left that place in October
[08:57]<@jacky> dang.... now where do I go to get free (reliable) advice??
[08:57]<@jacky> <g>
[08:57]<Calum> haha
[08:57]<@jacky> so.. what's up now? anything good?
[08:57]<Calum> Probably starting my own business soon...had enough of looking for work, there's nothing decent going
[08:58]<@jacky> speaking of jobs... BC lost his, and is not able to be here for a while. :(
[08:58]<@jacky> what kind of business?
[08:58]<Calum> ah, that sucks...didn't know that :(
[08:58]<Calum> refurbished computer sales, and computer repairs and similar stuff
[08:58]<@jacky> and... I guess I assume you left the computer shop to go to another job... so, why did you leave?
[08:58]<@jacky> that sounds interesting and fun... but... is there even a market for refurbished computers?
[08:59]<@jacky> computers are like so many things today... use it, and throw it away
[08:59]<Calum> Nah, I left because I'd had enough of the way they treated the staff, I couldn't stand that any longer. I did work somewhere else for a few weeks but it didn't suit me
[08:59]<+camerongray> Ahh
[08:59]<Calum> You'd be surprised actually, I was going to do an Ebay shop and they seem to sell quite well on there
[08:59]<@jacky> <Calum> Nah, I left because I'd had enough of the way they treated the staff, I couldn't stand that any longer. <<< that's what happened to me, too. Funny thing... I expect to get paid all my money, and on time.
[09:00]<Calum> haha, funny that
[09:00]<+camerongray> Yeah - people do still buy them
[09:00]<@jacky> Wait! I know what it is!
[09:00]<@jacky> you just need to clean out your closet!!!
[09:00]<@jacky> am I right?
[09:00]<@jacky> :)
[09:00]<+camerongray> I bought my MacBook refurb - Still going strong
[09:00]<Calum> hahaha, already done that, mostly
[09:00]<+camerongray> Well, it's on ebay again :P
[09:00]<Calum> sold a LOT of random stuff
[09:01]<@jacky> that's great
[09:01]<@jacky> it kind of blows my mind though
[09:01]<Calum> refurbs are good, I buy a lot of refurb stuff for myself
[09:01]<+camerongray> Yeah
[09:01]<@jacky> see... I know guy sthat do it with car parts and their wives do it with stuff I would call junk
[09:01]<+camerongray> Also look into doing refurb macs - They hold their value a lot more than PCs do
[09:01]<@jacky> they go buy it, and then sell it on ebay, and make money
[09:01]<Calum> yeah
[09:02]<@jacky> I don't understand why it is suddenly worth more, on ebay
[09:02]<Calum> yep, I've done that with computer parts to some degree already
[09:02]<@jacky> it blows my mind
[09:02]<Calum> you want to know why?
[09:02]<+camerongray> My 6 year old macbook with a broken DVD drive and battery is going for ?200 with 6 days left
[09:02]<Calum> you want the ultimate secret to that?
[09:02]<@jacky> well.. the basic rule of advertising:
[09:02]<@jacky> the broader the audience, the higher the price
[09:02]<Calum> nope...because most people on Ebay are morons! :) they just don't have a clue
[09:02]<@jacky> but still...
[09:02]<@jacky> har
[09:02]<@jacky> ok
[09:02]<@jacky> you win that one
[09:02]<@jacky> heheheeh
[09:02]<Calum> hehe
[09:03]<@jacky> look up a famous american
[09:03]<@jacky> you'll love his slogan
[09:03]<@jacky> p.t. barnum
[09:03]<Calum> brb I'll check it now
[09:03]<Calum> haha, yeah, he's dead on
[09:03]<@jacky> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute
[09:03]<@jacky> heheheh
[09:03]<@jacky> and no conscience, either!
[09:03]<@jacky> hehehe
[09:03]<Calum> heh
[09:04]<@jacky> guess what? I got a (another) email from Street... like 2 days ago
[09:04]<Calum> oh?
[09:04]<@jacky> speaking of old computers....
[09:04]<Calum> Computer's still working then heh
[09:04]<@jacky> I guess his is still being used, and is infected
[09:05]<Calum> yeah
[09:05]<@jacky> oh.. tv says that Europe is having a VERY cold winter
[09:05]<@jacky> we are having a mild one
[09:05]<@jacky> what's it really like?
[09:05]<Calum> it's been bitter these last few days
[09:05]<@jacky> snow?
[09:05]<Calum> had a fair bit of snow last Saturday, and a light dusting last night
[09:05]<@jacky> wow
[09:05]<Calum> but everywhere is still frozen and they've forecast more this weekend
[09:06]<+camerongray> None here yet :D
[09:06]<@jacky> we had just a little bit, if you were awake to see it, and then it was gone. so far this year
[09:06]<@jacky> VERY different from Feb '10
[09:06]<@jacky> when we were inundated
[09:06]<@jacky> for this area, anyway
[09:06]<@jacky> I remember.. for sure... we had snow on the ground every day, in Feb ... that yea
[09:06]<@jacky> r
[09:06]<@jacky> and that is unusual for my locale
[09:07]<@jacky> here today... it is chilly and raw.. but the temp is up to almost 50
[09:07]<Calum> very different then
[09:07]<@jacky> I think... Sun and Mon,. i twill be highs in the 30's and maybe low 40's
[09:07]<@jacky> then right back to low 50s
[09:07]<@jacky> which is a tad bit above avg for us
[09:07]<@jacky> been that way, all winter
[09:07]<@jacky> and it suits me!
[09:07]<@jacky> I'm sorry for you all
[09:08]<Calum> I don't know what the temp actually is here right now...new car doesn't have an outside temperature guage which I find annoying heh
[09:08]<Calum> but, it certainly feels very very cold
[09:08]<@jacky> "new car" ??
[09:08]<@jacky> details, please
[09:08]<@jacky> :)
[09:08]<Calum> well, got it in June...new to you I think hah
[09:08]<@jacky> does the heater core leak?
[09:08]<@jacky> :)
[09:08]<@Mulreay> Hey, Calum
[09:08]<Calum> nope! Wait...you know I had another car since that one, right? Not sure...
[09:08]<Calum> hey Mulreay :)
[09:09]<@jacky> Calum: not sure what I remember... refresh me
[09:09]<@Mulreay> Calum, greatb to hear from you
[09:09]<@Mulreay> Great*
[09:09]<Calum> Mulreay: good to be back buddy
[09:09]<@Mulreay> How'stricks?
[09:10]<Calum> jacky: I had the leaky turquoise one for about 6 months, then I had a turbodiesel version of the same car, in red, for just over a year...then I got this one in June or July last year
[09:10]<Calum> Mulreay: not too bad thanks, yourself? How's your PC?
[09:10]<@jacky> diesel rings a bell
[09:10]<@jacky> what do you have now? brand name? and gas or diesel?
[09:10]<Calum> jacky: I had a straight diesel first time, then a turbo
[09:10]<@Mulreay> Will let you catch up with jacky :)
[09:10]<Calum> Got an MG ZS now, gas/petrol, just a 1.8
[09:10]<@jacky> Mulreay: no... please stay
[09:10]<@jacky> let's pepper him
[09:10]<@jacky> heheheeh
[09:11]<Calum> haha
[09:11]<@Mulreay> lol
[09:11]<@jacky> he's supposed to be able to multi-task... let him prove it
[09:11]<@jacky> :)
[09:11]<@jacky> MG ... two seater?
[09:12]<Calum> nah, you're thinking of the classic MGs
[09:12]<Calum> the newer ones are Rovers, with uprated suspension and interior
[09:12]<Calum> trying to find where I uploaded a pic, to show you
[09:12]<@jacky> Rover? like a four wheel drive truck?
[09:12]<Calum> http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9554/img0026vt.jpg
[09:13]<Calum> oh, no, that was it before cleaning it heh, this is a bit better
[09:13]<Calum> http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2283/img0043yg.jpg
[09:13]<@jacky> that's not just any one? that is literally yours?
[09:13]<Calum> yep
[09:13]<@jacky> that's a nice looking little car
[09:14]<@jacky> they all look alike to me anymore
[09:14]<@jacky> heheehe
[09:14]<Calum> it's not too shabby heh
[09:14]<Calum> needs some bits doing
[09:14]<@jacky> is it in better shape than the previous ones?
[09:14]<Calum> but I have a fart can on the back hehehe
[09:14]<@jacky> it doesn't look beat all to hell...
[09:14]<@jacky> fart can?
[09:14]<Calum> well, my last car was in good shape, just had a fear or something bad happening like the turbo failing, because of the mileage
[09:14]<Calum> loud exhaust heh
[09:14]<@Mulreay> I had a classic 'Metro' I changed out the bonnet, bumpers, lights and the interiar including the carpets, stearing wheel and the dash to make it an MG
[09:14]<@jacky> ok on loud. hehe
[09:15]<+camerongray> lol
[09:15]<@jacky> a friends son, is putting turbo's ON cars now...
[09:15]<Calum> Mulreay: ah, yeah, I remember you telling me about that Metro, sounded good
[09:15]<@Mulreay> Heh, yeah was fun
[09:15]<@jacky> but.. they are young, and don't care if something goes out, later. heheeheh
[09:15]<Calum> my exhaust isn't all that loud in fairness, only when you rev it hard...driving normally it's not very noticeable
[09:16]<@jacky> yesterday though... stopped by my friend's garage... and they were doing soemthing I could relate too
[09:16]<@jacky> you've reminded me of it...
[09:16]<@jacky> a fellow has an old truck... I'm guessing around a '71
[09:16]<@jacky> a damned old Ford!
[09:16]<Calum> heh
[09:16]<@jacky> but it has either a 302 or 351 in it
[09:16]<@jacky> a small block, anyway
[09:16]<@jacky> he put headers on it
[09:16]<@jacky> and was trying to figure out how to run the pipes
[09:16]<@jacky> started her up... with open headers
[09:16]<@jacky> brought back memories
[09:17]<@jacky> heheeheheh
[09:17]<Calum> heh I bet
[09:17]<@Mulreay> I had two exhausts... one of them I drilled 4 holes near the manivold so it sounded like a proper 4/8 I used to pull up at the lights and rev the engine and people would laugh... good/funny times
[09:17]<Calum> sounds good
[09:17]<@jacky> background: a 302 is (was) a popular V-8 Ford motor
[09:18]<Calum> ok
[09:18]<@Mulreay> I did mean V-8 fyi... sorry
[09:18]<@jacky> here... these boys that have what I call rice-rockets ... jap 4 cylinder cars... are taking the exhaust system off, and making their own replacement. No muffler at all. just the catlytic converter in the line... and using bigger diameter pipe..
[09:18]<@jacky> doesn't sound too bad
[09:18]<@jacky> for a 4 cyl
[09:18]<@jacky> and.. not as loud as you might think
[09:18]<@jacky> the length of pipe takes the edge off
[09:19]<Calum> yeah
[09:19]<@Mulreay> Depends on the mufler as well
[09:19]<@jacky> Mulreay: no muffler at all. removed
[09:19]<@jacky> straight pipe..
[09:19]<@Mulreay> sweet
[09:19]<@jacky> to me, a 4 cyl sounds like a perma-fart
[09:19]<@jacky> but hey
[09:19]<@jacky> heheheeh
[09:20]<@jacky> Calum: change of topic: you quit with FAH a long time ago? just got tired of it, or what?
[09:20]<Calum> jacky: I moved to a different team, is all, when I stopped posting on glitch pc
[09:20]<@Mulreay> Jacky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDlMLqdvHzI
[09:21]<+camerongray> I should start folding again
[09:21]<@jacky> Calum: cool. friends from work team?
[09:21]<Calum> jacky: the place I used to work has a pretty big team so, I just fold for them, yeah
[09:21]<@jacky> "nobody is buying V-8s" heheheehe that's funny
[09:22]<@jacky> Calum: cool
[09:22]<@Mulreay> My last car was a 1.6
[09:22]<Calum> Tell you what...the difference in power output etc isn't all that much between my old car and this one, but this is SO much more fun to drive
[09:23]<@jacky> better handling?
[09:23]<Calum> much better handling but mainly it's the engine...coming from a low revving turbodiesel where the power is low down, this thing is designed to produce power mainly at high revs, so it's much more involved to drive
[09:24]<Calum> much more fun to stick it in 2nd and feel it pulling more and more as it revs higher
[09:24]<@jacky> this one is gas?
[09:24]<Calum> yep
[09:24]<@Mulreay> I'm moving to Malta this year and the only thing I have to worry about is the fact that the Maltese drive in the shade
[09:24]<Calum> haha
[09:24]<@jacky> you are hitting the power range... feels good at the base of your spine, doesn't it? :)
[09:24]<Calum> heh, yeah it does
[09:24]<@jacky> drive in the shade?
[09:25]<@jacky> Here is the extreme: http://www.hmccc.50g.com/photo8.jpg
[09:25]<@jacky> the one on the left
[09:25]<Calum> mmmm...yeah....hehe
[09:25]<@jacky> I know him
[09:25]<Calum> oh cool
[09:25]<@jacky> he's had that car since the '50s
[09:25]<@jacky> when he drove it daily, on the street
[09:25]<@Mulreay> sweet
[09:25]<@jacky> it is a '55 Chevy
[09:25]<@jacky> http://nitrohutch.smugmug.com/Other/Little-Guys-Nationals-Virginia/JimSwaglerGitGo/543735145_inreM-L-1.jpg
[09:26]<@jacky> look at the wrinkles in the tires! wow...
[09:26]<Calum> very nice
[09:26]<@jacky> http://gassermadness.com/visitorscars/swagler/photo5.jpg
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[09:26]<@jacky> there's some horsepower
[09:26]<@jacky> THAT will set you back in the seat
[09:26]<@jacky> heheehehe
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[09:26]<Calum> haha no kidding
[09:26]<@jacky> and that thing is still tagged! it can't really be driven wellon the street though
[09:27]<Calum> heh
[09:27]<@jacky> he just keeps it tagged for the hell of it
[09:27]<@jacky> what did Mulreay mean?
[09:27]<@jacky> about driving in the shade?
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[09:27]<@Mulreay> Would that not twist the chase
[09:28]<@jacky> huh?
[09:28]<@Mulreay> oh, in the shade... there used to be limited care/rules in Malta about driving hence 'drive in the shade'. There was when I was there only one set of trafic lights... it's a bit better know.
[09:29]<@Calum> from what a friend who goes there regularly says, the Maltese people drive like loons
[09:29]<@jacky> ah
[09:29]<@jacky> ok
[09:29]<@jacky> like our New York City or Boston drivers
[09:29]<@jacky> heheehe
[09:29]<@Calum> heh
[09:29]<@jacky> I was in Mexico a time or two... the curb is like 2.5 feet high
[09:29]<@jacky> that is to keep them from running over the pedestrians!
[09:29]<@Calum> haha, wow
[09:30]<@jacky> total idiocy
[09:30]<@jacky> ever car... EVERY car ... was beat all to hel
[09:30]<@jacky> l
[09:30]<@jacky> this was not a big, nice city
[09:30]<@jacky> but a tourist trap town on the border
[09:30]<@Mulreay> I was saying that much torque doesn't bend the chassis?
[09:31]<@jacky> Mulreay: not that I know of... they do have to do things to the chassis to be sure the car goes straight though.
[09:31]<@jacky> what CAN bend things
[09:31]<@jacky> is if he lets up and comes down hard
[09:31]<@jacky> so.. when racing like that, he has to be sure to be lined up perfectly, before he cuts it loose
[09:31]<@jacky> he really can't just take his foot off it
[09:32]<@jacky> if he did... wham-o! when he comes down
[09:32]<@Mulreay> Yeah
[09:32]<@jacky> his other car has wheelie bars to keep it down
[09:32]<@Mulreay> wheelie bars?
[09:32]<@jacky> I think this one does too, but he plays around like that... adjusts them
[09:33]<@jacky> wheelie bars are to prevent such a high wheelie - a wheel stand - like in the photos
[09:33]<@jacky> normally, they don't want to have them come up that high
[09:33]<@Mulreay> Do they use any 4 whell drive?
[09:33]<@Mulreay> wheel*
[09:34]<@jacky> http://nitrohutch.smugmug.com/Other/Little-Guys-Nationals-Virginia/JimSwaglerGitGo/543735145_inreM-L-1.jpg <<< you can see the wheelie bars very well
[09:34]<@jacky> extending from the read end, to little wheels, under the back bumper
[09:34]<@jacky> he has them adjusted, to let the car come up that far, apparently
[09:34]<@jacky>
[09:34]<@Mulreay> ahh, like stabilizers
[09:34]<@jacky> <@Mulreay> Do they use any 4 whell drive? <<< I don't understand... sorry
[09:35]<@Mulreay> 4 Wheel drive cars.. I did do a 'wheel*
[09:35]<@jacky> these are not 4WD drive cars
[09:35]<@jacky> they are conventional read wheel drive
[09:35]<@Mulreay> Hence, do they use the?
[09:35]<@jacky> that's why I dont' understand...
[09:35]<@jacky> what do you mean?
[09:35]<@Mulreay> so no they don't
[09:36]<@jacky> ok
[09:36]<@jacky> I guess
[09:36]<@jacky> heheeheh
[09:36]<@Mulreay> They don't use 4 wheel drive cars
[09:36]<@jacky> never heard of one used, for this kind of racing
[09:36]<@jacky> and, they are a farily new thing
[09:36]<@jacky> trucks, on the other hand... have been around in 4WD for a long time
[09:36]<@Mulreay> That picture you can actually see the tyre warp when the car is setting off
[09:36]<@jacky> cars, I think they call them all wheel drive though
[09:37]<@jacky> yep... that is one hell of a launch
[09:37]<@jacky> oh! he has an automatic transmission in that thing, too
[09:37]<@jacky> that's not like he popped his foot off the clutch
[09:37]<@Mulreay> eaugh at auto... hehe
[09:37]<@jacky> but ... the trans is super special... modified, etc. big bucks.
[09:37]<@Calum> why an auto?
[09:37]<@jacky> consistency
[09:38]<@Calum> ah
[09:38]<@jacky> for that type of racing, consistency is critical
[09:38]<@jacky> it is even all computerized now!
[09:38]<@jacky> no <censored>...
[09:38]<@Calum> fair enough
[09:38]<@jacky> he puts in data... what the other guy is expected to run
[09:38]<@jacky> what he wants the motor to shift the trans at
[09:38]<@jacky> how long the timing of the starting liights is
[09:38]<@jacky> etc.
[09:38]<@jacky> pulls up to the line
[09:38]<@Mulreay> It seems to us Brits that Americans like the Auto gear box where in Britain we prefer the manual.. or stick I think you call it
[09:38]<@jacky> pushes a button
[09:38]<@jacky> and floors it
[09:39]<@jacky> the computer does the rest
[09:39]<@Calum> sounds pretty good
[09:39]<@Calum> but, give me a manual personally any day ;)
[09:39]<@jacky> Mulreay: used to be (when I was young) that the drag racers like him, used 4 speed manual. yep
[09:39]<@Mulreay> Me too :)
[09:39]<@jacky> times have changed
[09:39]<@jacky> technology has changed
[09:39]<@jacky> the manual IS fun. :)
[09:39]<@Calum> my dad got an auto not long ago...he likes it, I can't stand it heh
[09:40]<@jacky> for every day street driving, I dont' mind a manual
[09:40]<@jacky> drove one for years
[09:40]<@jacky> but... the auto IS nice
[09:40]<@jacky> either suits me
[09:40]<@jacky> for sport... if I was rich... it would depend on what kind of car I had
[09:40]<@Calum> I guess it depends on the car and the box, and how you drive
[09:40]<@Mulreay> I hate auto, hired a car a year back... hated it... I prefer manual
[09:41]<@jacky> I think manual is more economical... fuel wise
[09:41]<@Calum> yeah it is
[09:41]<@jacky> if.. IF .. the driver is not crazy
[09:41]<@Calum> assuming the person driving the manual can drive properly
[09:41]<@jacky> great minds...
[09:41]<@jacky> hehehe
[09:41]<@Calum> heh yeah
[09:41]<@Mulreay> I like the option to be or not to be... 'crazy'.
[09:41]<@jacky> Calum: change of topic... so what's new with your computers? what have you now?
[09:42]<@jacky> Mulreay: I used up all my "crazy", about 30 some years ago. whew... I'm glad I lived through it.
[09:42]<@Mulreay> Yeah me too
[09:42]<@Calum> jacky: right now, I've got an old style i7, 24GB of RAM, all watercooled with a custom cut case and such
[09:42]<@jacky> wow
[09:42]<@Calum> I did have a dual CPU rig for a while, too, but I sold all that
[09:42]<@Mulreay> 24GB RAM?
[09:42]<@jacky> "old style" i7?
[09:42]<@jacky> I thought i7 was the newest... shows what I know... hehehe
[09:43]<@jacky> what os, to use all that ram?
[09:43]<@Calum> the older socket, 1366, as opposed to the Sandy Bridge i7 which is socket 1155, or the -E which is socket 2011
[09:43]<@Mulreay> Balls to the CPU 24GB of RAM????
[09:43]<@Calum> i7 is still current branding, just got the older version
[09:43]<@Calum> RAM was cheap heh
[09:43]<@Calum> Using Windows 7 Pro
[09:43]<@Mulreay> How many slots?
[09:43]<@jacky> so... they do what they do.. use the same name, but diff sockets.... to keep us confused. sigh....
[09:43]<@Calum> all 6 filled
[09:44]<@Mulreay> Corsair?
[09:44]<@Calum> jacky: different naming style. Mine is an i7 930, they did a 920, 950, 970, etc. Newer style is i7-2600K, i7-2700K, etc
[09:44]<@jacky> do you do anything with computer, that you can actually tell that all that ram is helping?
[09:44]<@Calum> Mulreay: Kingston
[09:44]<@Calum> jacky: I have a RAMdrive, it's awesome
[09:45]<@Calum> over 5GB/sec read speeds
[09:45]<@jacky> I played with ram drive back in old dos days. had a 486 with like 8 meg of ram. heheheehe
[09:45]<@Calum> heh
[09:45]<@jacky> what do you do? create the ram drive at boot?
[09:45]<@jacky> trying to remember...
[09:45]<@jacky> and do you just experiment with it? or actually use it?
[09:45]<@Calum> I use a piece of software to do it automatically, it backs up the RAMdrive on shutdown and loads it on startup
[09:46]<@Calum> I keep whatever game I'm playing on there...first in game, EVERY time :)
[09:46]<@jacky> "first in game" ?
[09:46]<+camerongray> Ohh, that RAM Drive thing looks very cool
[09:46]<@Calum> when we play multiplayer, everyone else is aprtway through loading the map, I'm in a tank halfway to their base....hehehe
[09:46]<+camerongray> Will need to get more RAM first though
[09:46]<@jacky> ( how much ram is allocated to the ram drive, on boot? )
[09:47]<@Calum> I've currently got it set to 12GB because that's the size of my largest game, but it's easily adjustable with a reboot
[09:47]<@jacky> ok on speed. very cool
[09:47]<@jacky> cool
[09:47]<@Calum> but it's usable for anything, I could put MS Office on there for example
[09:47]<@jacky> oh hey.. I don't keep up with prices... but was looking for something for somebody the other day
[09:47]<+camerongray> Sweet!
[09:47]<@jacky> yes... ram looked lower than I recall
[09:47]<@Calum> camerongray: definitely, definitely worth it
[09:47]<@jacky> but hard drives. did they go up?
[09:48]<@Mulreay> I just turned an office Compaq DC7100 PC into 4GHZ CPU pent 4 (already had that) 512mb RAM and on board GPU into.. a 4GHZ CPU, 3GB RAM a speedlink sound card 5.1 and a Radeon HD5450 GPU... I can play Minecraft like you wouldn't believe
[09:48]<@Calum> RAM is very cheap but slowly rising again
[09:48]<@Calum> HDDs are crazy, floods in Thailand where they produce the drives, spindles, and motors
[09:48]<@jacky> crazy? as in going up?
[09:48]<+camerongray> Currently running a hackintosh and can't get it to run stable with more than 4gb RAM so kinda stuck with the ramdrive for now
[09:48]<@jacky> in price?
[09:48]<@Calum> they're already HUGELY up in price, double or triple
[09:49]<@jacky> I thought I was not dreaming that
[09:49]<@jacky> ok
[09:49]<@Calum> they fluctuate daily, they seem a little less than in say November right now
[09:49]<+camerongray> There is 8gb in the system - I can boot with all 8gb but 32bit apps crash so I need to force 4gb :(
[09:49]<@jacky> camerongray: what OS?
[09:49]<@Calum> but, my sources say they probably won't come back down till summer, and even then they won't be down to prices before the floods
[09:49]<+camerongray> Mac OS 10.6.8
[09:49]<@Calum> however, new platters are out, 1TB platters, so that should help bring prices down soon
[09:49]<@jacky> Calum: are you accusing somebody of being greedy??? nah!... can't be that!! <g>
[09:49]<@Mulreay> I'm gonna build my new computer in May... I keep saying it but that's the date
[09:50]<+camerongray> lol
[09:50]<@Calum> jacky: HDD manufacturers' profits are up hugely, no kidding about that
[09:50]<@jacky> my cousin works for WD, in California
[09:50]<@Calum> I heard 10% down on production, 50% up on profit, quoted the other day
[09:50]<@jacky> but we are not close
[09:50]<@jacky> thinking...
[09:50]<@Calum> Mulreay: looking forward to it?
[09:51]<@jacky> I wonder... I'd say that there is a bigger market for Hard drives, than ram
[09:51]<@jacky> hobbiests will buy ram
[09:51]<@jacky> every day users will buy hd
[09:51]<+camerongray> They are ridiculously priced ATM - I ended up pulling apart an external HDD instead of getting a new one for the hackintosh
[09:51]<+camerongray> Shame that it's only 5400rpm
[09:51]<@Mulreay> Calum: always, it used to be scary now it's just waiting for the money to buy the parts...
[09:51]<@Calum> don't forget though that RAM is also in other devices, the stuff they make will be in phones, things like that, as well as just PCs
[09:52]<@Calum> Mulreay: you got the bug now huh? hehehe
[09:52]<@Mulreay> Indeed
[09:52]<@Calum> I want some new hardware but...nothing I really need
[09:52]<@jacky> Calum: where will you run your new business? will you have a shop somewhere?
[09:52]<@Calum> I think my next purchase is a mechanical keyboard
[09:52]<@jacky> like a store front?
[09:53]<+camerongray> Oh yes - Mechanical FTW!!!!
[09:53]<@Calum> jacky: from home at first to get an idea how much I can make...if and when I can afford it I'll rent a shop front
[09:53]<@Mulreay> Calum camerongray does some awesome reviews online for stuff like that... you should check them out
[09:53]<+camerongray> I have the Filco Majestouch - Very expensive but great for me since I do a lot of programming
[09:53]<@jacky> if at home like that... where will your business come from? advertising?
[09:53]<@Calum> camerongray: I need a backlit one though, and they're so expensive...I have an old beige mechanical I use for typing, but for gaming I want something backlit
[09:53]<+camerongray> Yeah
[09:54]<@Calum> jacky: word of mouth works pretty well, but I'll advertise locally too. I expect most of the income to be from refurb sales, which I'll just need to advertise through Ebay for
[09:54]<+camerongray> See if you can get one with MX Browns - I have blues in mine which are fine for typing but can be distractingly loud when gaming
[09:54]<@jacky> Calum: where will you acquire the stuff to do the refurbing on though?
[09:54]<@Calum> camerongray: I game with headphones so blues should be OK for me
[09:54]<+camerongray> Cool
[09:55]<@Calum> jacky: have some sources already, easy enough to buy in bulk, or semi-bulk, very cheaply
[09:55]<@jacky> and glad that you feel you can rely on word of mouth. it doesn't cost, out of pocket. :)
[09:55]<@jacky> it is?
[09:55]<@jacky> like where?
[09:55]<@jacky> that's interesting....
[09:55]<+camerongray> Ex Business is a way to go
[09:55]<+camerongray> Or sit at the dump :P
[09:55]<@Calum> I can buy, say, 20 computers at around ?20 each...figure in the cost of some parts for anything faulty, and sell for ?60 or more, no problem
[09:56]<@jacky> Calum: that's just it... where to buy them?
[09:56]<+camerongray> Stupid council don't allow people to take stuff - It pains me to see Core 2 Duo PCs being dumped
[09:56]<@Calum> Ebay mostly heh, office clearances, that kind of stuff
[09:56]<@jacky> camerongray: guess what? they have a great big dumpster thing at our dump. you can put electronics in it. and nobody is allowed scavenge it! I know... I got kicked out of it
[09:56]<+camerongray> hahaha
[09:56]<@jacky> Calum: ok on ebay.
[09:57]<@Calum> They don't let you do that near me, either, but the guys who work there can take what they like
[09:57]<+camerongray> Same
[09:57]<+camerongray> Threw a broken hedge trimmer in and one of them is off with it
[09:57]<@Calum> me and my mate took a whole bunch of busted stuff down there and they grabbed a load of it, pretty rude so I didn't tell them it was all broken beyond repair
[09:57]<@jacky> camerongray: what they said, sort of made sense, when explained: they actually SELL the contents, in bulk. by contract. so whoever is buying it, gets pissed if it is all picked over.
[09:57]<+camerongray> Ahh
[09:58]<+camerongray> They sit at ours with piles of laptops
[09:58]<@jacky> now just WHO that contract bulk buyer is... I have no idea
[09:58]<+camerongray> Here they just tear them down
[09:58]<@jacky> probably Calum.... sigh...
[09:58]<@Calum> haha
[09:58]<@jacky> heh
[09:59]<+camerongray> The stuff people chuck out though
[09:59]<@Mulreay> Just to say incase I disappear 'Calum awesome seeing you again.. keep in touch where you can :)
[09:59]<+camerongray> I mean - A P4 is fine for basic office stuff
[09:59]<@jacky> camerongray: true. but can you even buy a motherboard for it today?
[09:59]<@jacky> someday, just getting a fan for it, will be a pain
[09:59]<@Calum> Mulreay: good to see you too mate, will hopefully be around more from now on
[09:59]<+camerongray> 2nd hand
[10:00]<@jacky> that's the problem... the stuff still could do the job, but it gets harder and harder to find parts.
[10:00]<+camerongray> Yeah
[10:00]<@jacky> it is ... some kind of extinction....
[10:00]<+camerongray> True
[10:00]<@jacky> and sad
[10:00]<@jacky> and wasteful
[10:00]<@jacky> but
[10:00]<@jacky> that's the way it is
[10:01]<+camerongray> People also believe shop staff too much - "ooh, it's going to be expensive to fix... Oh, we just got this new one in"
[10:01]<@jacky> Calum: do you think you'll be able to continue to drop by here, occasionally?
[10:01]<@Calum> jacky: hopefully, yes
[10:01]<+camerongray> *COUGH* PC *COUGH* World *COUGH*
[10:01]<@jacky> camerongray: yes.. and one thing leads to another
[10:01]<@Calum> I might even get an IRC client installed again...hehehe
[10:01]<@jacky> Calum: I hope so
[10:01]<@jacky> no client???
[10:01]<@jacky> auugghhh!!!
[10:01]<@jacky> !say *irc*
[10:01]<@Calum> using the webclient at the minute haha
[10:02]<@jacky> so I see
[10:02]<@jacky> !say kvirc
[10:02]<@jacky> !say mirc
[10:02]<@jacky> !say xchat
[10:02]<@jacky> hehehee
[10:02]<@Calum> grrr
[10:02]<@Calum> hehe
[10:02]<@Calum> next time I'm on I'll have some sort of real client
[10:02]<+camerongray> Ahh - the memories of my argument in the middle of Comet about Norton - Basically dissolved into "It's good", "No it's not", "Yes it is", "No it's not", "Yes it is", and so on
[10:02]<@jacky> comet ?
[10:03]<+camerongray> Like best buy
[10:03]<@Calum> hell...probably just get one on my phone, now I have something newer where I can type around the same speed as on my keyboard heh
[10:03]<@jacky> ok
[10:03]<@Calum> plus I'm always on my phone anyway, not too often I sit here on chat on my PC
[10:03]<+camerongray> Nice - Phones are growing scarily fast now
[10:03]<@jacky> Calum: rig it up... so that if we say "Calum" it vibrates in your pocket
[10:03]<@jacky> heh
[10:03]<@Calum> oh! I got something awesome on mine at the minute
[10:03]<@Calum> jacky: I will :)
[10:04]<+camerongray> What is it?
[10:04]<@jacky> Calum: you do, I'll write a script to drive you crazy! heheehehe
[10:04]<@Calum> I bought a Bluetooth OBD reader for my car, so now my phone can read all the info from it...it's so interesting
[10:04]<+camerongray> Nice
[10:04]<@Calum> driving along, seeing my real time MPG, coolant temp, intake temp, all that stuff
[10:04]<+camerongray> Soon I'll be able to pay in shops with my phone
[10:04]<@Calum> cool
[10:05]<+camerongray> And look like an idiot while trying to get it to work
[10:05]<@jacky> camerongray: what's your phone number? wow... that's going to be almost like asking for somebody's credit card number, someday
[10:05]<@jacky> heheheehe
[10:05]<@Calum> haha true
[10:05]<+camerongray> Yeah
[10:05]<+camerongray> It uses NFC so you just need to tap it against something to send data
[10:06]<@Calum> what phone do you have?
[10:06]<@jacky> nfc ?
[10:06]<+camerongray> Galaxy Nexus
[10:06]<+camerongray> Near Field Communication
[10:06]<@Calum> ah right, sweet
[10:06]<+camerongray> What do you have?
[10:06]<@jacky> not "No F***ing Clue" ??
[10:06]<@jacky> <g>
[10:06]<@Calum> I have a Desire Z, needed something with a physical keyboard
[10:06]<+camerongray> Nice
[10:06]<@Calum> rooted and overclocked ;)
[10:06]<+camerongray> Cool - I did that with my San Francisco
[10:07]<@Calum> I'm possibly getting one of those as a business phone, to keep things separate
[10:07]<@jacky> what's the diff between near feild communication, and blue tooth? I mean... blue tooth doesn't work over great distance...
[10:07]<@jacky> does it?
[10:07]<+camerongray> Bluetooth is greater distance
[10:07]<@jacky> how much distance ?
[10:07]<@Calum> depends if I can stump up the difference between that and...something cheaper, can't remember the name of it, but it's like ?40 at Asda
[10:07]<@Calum> 10M
[10:07]<+camerongray> 100m I think
[10:07]<@jacky> I thought you had to be within feet
[10:07]<@jacky> really?
[10:07]<@jacky> ok
[10:07]<@jacky> didn't know that
[10:07]<+camerongray> NFC is within inches
[10:08]<@jacky> somebody will find a way to hack it
[10:08]<+camerongray> The san francisco is really good IMO - I unlocked mine and put Cyanogenmod 7 on it
[10:08]<@Calum> unless the newer versions have a longer range...I know 10M was the range for whatever was current when I learnt it
[10:08]<@Calum> yeah, I have CM7 on my Z now, waiting for CM9
[10:08]<@jacky> Calum: referring to NFC ?
[10:08]<@Calum> jacky: sorry, no, Bluetooth
[10:08]<@Calum> I know almost nothing about NFC other than the name
[10:08]<+camerongray> Yeah - I have CM9 Alpha on my HP Touchpad - Android 4.0 tablet for ?89 :D
[10:08]<@jacky> ok. that's more in line with that I thought
[10:09]<@Calum> camerongray: nice, I wish I'd been able to pick one up when they were available, right now I can still get them but don't have the money
[10:09]<+camerongray> Ahh
[10:09]<+camerongray> It was insane
[10:09]<@jacky> I need to appear idle a while
[10:09]<@jacky> Calum: anything else, for now?
[10:09]<@Calum> I'd put one in my car to use as a display for all that info I mentioned earlier heh
[10:09]<+camerongray> All DSG stores crashed
[10:09]<@jacky> Calum: it sure is nice to see you again. please don't be a stranger
[10:09]<+camerongray> Comet had a queue on their site
[10:10]<@Calum> jacky: nothing from me, just wanted to check in and say hi :)
[10:10]<@Calum> jacky: I'll definitely be around more from now on
[10:10]<@Calum> camerongray: yeah, I heard about all that, it was madness
[10:10]<+camerongray> Finally got mine from CPW in a few mins while the site was up
[10:10]<@Calum> heh
[10:15]<@Calum> hm not sure if I'm lagging or everyone stopped talking at once...
[10:16]<@Calum> you guys are probably /noticing each other laughing at me :)
[10:17]<@Mulreay> heh
[10:17]<@Calum> or maybe I'm just paranoid heh, either way I'm off for now, probably gonna go play some games
[10:17]<+camerongray> lol - I opened Minecraft :P
[10:18]<@Calum> nice chatting with you all again, catch you later :)
[10:18]<@Mulreay> we missed you buddy
[10:18]<@Calum> *man hugs* lol
[10:18]<@Mulreay> later
[10:18]<@Mulreay> heh
[10:18]<@Calum> missed you guys too
[10:18]<@Mulreay> Stay safe and in touch
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[10:19]<@Mulreay> Could be worse, Steve could have come back
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[10:37]<@Mulreay> brb
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[10:39]<@jacky> be back later
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[10:39]<+camerongray> lol
[10:40]<+camerongray> Steve: "CALUM, You imposter talking to these people"
[10:40]<+camerongray> lol
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[10:40]<+camerongray> And Calum accepted my friend request - I'm honoured!
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[10:41]<@Mulreay> Steve = Cockend Calum = nice guy
[10:41]<+camerongray> lol - true
[10:42]<@Mulreay> friend request??? WHAT... lol
[10:43]<@Mulreay> Heh, he's top notch
[10:43]<+camerongray> He's finally on Facebook
[10:44]<+camerongray> I remember him saying that he'd never sign up :P
[10:44]<+camerongray> Then I search and there he is!
[10:44]<@Mulreay> Really? I have his mobile number... will txt him to death util he adds me..
[10:44]<+camerongray> lol
[10:44]<@Mulreay> lol jk
[10:44]<+camerongray> Or just add him :P
[10:44]<@Mulreay> yeah will do
[10:46]<@Mulreay> mmm can't make head nor tail... lin k me?
[10:46]<@Mulreay> link*
[10:46]<+camerongray> https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003193004455
[10:47]<@Mulreay> cool, thanks
[10:51]<@Mulreay> Wow, not what I expected... but then again I look like a tit
[10:51]<+camerongray> I'd say you looked more like a human but oh well
[10:51]<+camerongray> :P
[10:52]<@Mulreay> haha thanks
[10:52]<@Mulreay> Have you seen Tux2?
[10:52]<@Mulreay> There is a video
[10:54]<+camerongray> Yeah
[10:54]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, I really need to make more videos - there's a queue following
[10:55]<+camerongray> beginning*
[10:55]<+camerongray> Chrome for android, HP G7 (Unboxing and review), Canon 600D (Unboxing and review) and MacBook pro (Unboxing and Review)
[10:56]<@Mulreay> I have a HUGE vide in the making... gonna take ages but will be AWESOME
[10:56]<+camerongray> Nice!
[10:57]<@Mulreay> Hope you will like it... taking as much media as I can
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[12:24]<@Mulreay> Nope, crap
[12:25]<@Mulreay> Won't try that again
[12:31]<@Mulreay> Ventrilo is not working
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[14:45]<+Graham> Craig you in?
[14:48]<+Graham> guess not
[15:19]<@Mulreay> Will be here for a while
[15:22]<@Mulreay> Anyone else like 'bad romance'?
[15:25]<@Mulreay> Guess not... OK don't try anything I will just ban you.. you have one chance and that's it... push your luck your banned simple.
[15:29]<@Mulreay> Wow I didn't say that..... my girlfriend has issues
[15:31]<@Mulreay> OK sorry about that.. that was not me...
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[16:02]<+Graham> brb
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[19:28]<+Craig> You hear about the dad who shot the laptop?
[19:29]<+Craig> Tux2?
[19:29]<Tux2> Oh, is it a joke?
[19:29]<Tux2> hey craig
[19:29]<+Craig> Nope its real
[19:30]<Tux2> oh wow...
[19:30]<+Craig> :P
[19:30]<+Craig> and Hi
[19:30]<Tux2> did you hear that my server is getting quite popular?
[19:30]<+Craig> http://thechive.com/2012/02/10/right-or-wrong-this-dad-teaches-his-daughter-a-serious-lesson-for-her-facebook-rant-video/
[19:30]<+Craig> no?
[19:31]<+Craig> Heh best quote ever!! "hunt for her meals in the wild with only a spork"
[19:38]<+Craig> @HuntingWithSpork
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[20:19]<+Craig> What did you think Tux?
[20:23]<Tux2> Um, Haven't read it yet. I have like 4 people pulling me on my server and on skype and stuff...
[21:22]<+Craig> hahahah nice
[23:56]<SlenderMan> xbox?