Session Start: Sat Dec 31 00:00:00 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[06:32]<@bc_programming> I got bored so I'm re-writing my INIFile C# class for VB.NET aiming for the exact same functionality
[06:33]<@bc_programming> that will give me a chance to discuss differences between VB.NET, VB6, and C# in a blog post as well
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[07:36]<@bc_programming> hello camerongray
[07:37]<+camerongray> Howdy
[07:37]<@bc_programming> I'm rewriting my C# INIFile/MRUList classes in VB.NET for no reason :P
[07:47]<@bc_programming> it's worked well since I've fixed several minor bugs and issues in the C# implementation as well... that fixes bugs in BASeBlock AND the JobClock Program in one swoop
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[08:38]<+camerongray> hey jacky
[08:39]<@jacky> camerongray: Hello
[08:54]<@bc_programming> curses, VB.NET 2008 doesn't have iterator functions. This means I have to write my own implementation
[09:09]<Craig> Hey All,
[09:09]<Craig> How goes it?
[09:09]<@bc_programming> hi Craig
[09:09]<@bc_programming> If I said good, I'd be half-lying, but I complain a lot so I'll just be quiet, haha :P
[09:11]<@bc_programming> on the bright side, At least I'm starting to get milestone payments for my work. the downside is they forgot to "release" them to me before they went on days off for New Years, :/
[09:12]<@bc_programming> And I've still no idea if the program works on their end. Basically I had to walk them through the process of Installing MySQL on Windows and configuring it to the point where my App can become self-sufficient... which thankfully only requires the creation of a user/password
[09:18]<@bc_programming> how about yourself?
[09:20]<Craig> Just got home from Edmonton, I took my sister to the Airport. :P
[09:21]<Craig> She's going back to Korea till August.
[09:21]<@bc_programming> ahh christmas gathering goodbyes eh
[09:21]<Craig> Kinda
[09:22]<@bc_programming> I remember those from back in the day. Well, from before my grandmother died, she was sorta the glue that made everybody come together on christmas :)
[09:22]<Craig> Yeah thats kinda how it used to be with my family before we moved to Alberta..
[09:23]<@bc_programming> She'd basically phone everybody who wasn't in Victoria, "you should come down for christmas" and almost everybody would come, it was pretty cool
[09:24]<Craig> That is cool, :)
[09:25]<@bc_programming> well, was, she's gone and nobody took on the role of "gathering organizer" person. I mean there are still christmas cards and phone calls and all that but it's not the same
[09:25]<@bc_programming> I'm being a downer of sorts but that isn't on purpose, haha
[09:26]<Craig> Its not your fault, I know how it is, My family has gone through a lot of changes as well.
[09:27]<@bc_programming> Time may change us, but we can't change time
[09:27]<Craig> up
[09:27]<Craig> Yup*
[09:34]<Craig> http://www.wimp.com/elthamflood/ GIT ER DONE!
[09:35]<@bc_programming> heh. That could be in an Isuzu commercia
[09:35]<@bc_programming> commercial*
[09:35]<Craig> :P
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[09:48]<+camerongray> grr - Stupid Sandforce SSD controller
[09:48]<@bc_programming> what happened
[09:48]<@bc_programming> tell us all about how it broke your heart
[09:48]<@bc_programming> heh
[10:07]<+camerongray> lol - Causes lock-ups and BSODs
[10:07]<+camerongray> Very rare but a pain
[10:07]<@bc_programming> my Audigy SE card used to do that
[10:07]<+camerongray> Although, it's the only controller that can provide over 500mbps transfer speed
[10:07]<@bc_programming> but it was avoidable since it only happened if I used it as a MIDI synth and it played a percussion note
[10:08]<+camerongray> lol
[10:08]<@bc_programming> I'm not sure whether to blame freelancer or the employer, but it takes a hella-long time to get paid
[10:08]<+camerongray> Oh - It's actually 550MB/s read and 450MB/s write - Pretty fast!
[10:08]<@bc_programming> I mean cripes I had the app finished on time and it took him until 3 days after to respond, grrr
[10:09]<@bc_programming> For Hard Drives, except for copying HUGE amounts of files, I never really notice speed differences
[10:09]<+camerongray> Ahh
[10:09]<+camerongray> You would with an SSD
[10:09]<@bc_programming> my laptop HD is 5200RPM but it doesn't feel any less responsive than my 7200, or any of my flash drives
[10:10]<@bc_programming> well I have no doubt about that, but If it ain't broke don't fix it type thing
[10:10]<+camerongray> Does Word 2010 open in 0.5 seconds :P
[10:10]<+camerongray> And does chrome open instantly :P
[10:10]<+camerongray> It's a pest having to ensure you install large stuff to another drive
[10:10]<+camerongray> As the SSD is only 60gb
[10:11]<@bc_programming> for me Word 2003 opens instantly. I'd measure 2007 but it always has to complain that it's configured wrong
[10:11]<@bc_programming> then it runs fine...
[10:12]<@bc_programming> I think in a way SuperFetch makes an SSD almost redundant. And personally, I'd rather spend any money that would go into a SSD on a much larger magnetic drive
[10:12]<@bc_programming> of course with 6 SATA slots who knows what this machine will end up with
[10:12]<@bc_programming> Also, I rather like VB.NET as a language
[10:13]<@bc_programming> I keep trying to put semicolons and braces without thinking though, which is funny because I kept forgetting them when I first moved from VB6 to C#
[11:06]<@bc_programming> hmm, Print Screen isn't working on my desktop
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[11:54]<@bc_programming> good news, after much hair-pulling, copying the clipboard viewer to my win7 machine, blaming the "clipX" tool for my pasting troubles, I have discovered why I was unable to paste a printscreen in Photoshop
[11:55]<@bc_programming> you can't paste without an open document... so there I am trying to figure out why paste was disabled in PS and all the while it was because you need a picture open to paste
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[14:56]<Graham> Hello everybody peeps
[14:56]<@bc_programming> sup
[14:56]<@bc_programming> everybody else has been ignoring me
[14:56]<@bc_programming> well except Craig
[14:56]<Graham> anybody?
[14:57]<@bc_programming> heh
[14:57]<@bc_programming> touche
[14:57]<Graham> heh
[14:57]<Graham> how goes it?
[14:58]<@bc_programming> oddly, I'm not really sure to be honest
[14:58]<Graham> oh, do tell
[14:58]<@bc_programming> I'm finally starting to get money out of that project, or, at least I was able to get a 150 dollar milestone
[14:58]<Graham> cool
[14:59]<@bc_programming> the employer guy created it, but he didn't "release" it, pretty sure he forgot
[14:59]<@bc_programming> but hopefully I will see it soon
[14:59]<@bc_programming> along with the rest of it of course
[14:59]<Graham> not sure what you mean...
[14:59]<@bc_programming> neither am I, the site is weird
[15:00]<@bc_programming> you have to get paid in "milestones" whatever the heck those are
[15:00]<Graham> odd
[15:00]<@bc_programming> basically he told me to request some milestones and he'd fund them, so I did, and he did- freelancer has the money
[15:00]<@bc_programming> but he has to "release" it to me before I can get it
[15:01]<@bc_programming> sort of like saying "yep, he's done what I need for this milestone in the project" type thing
[15:01]<Graham> ahh, so when the product works he then does his bit
[15:01]<@bc_programming> yeah
[15:01]<@bc_programming> well the product works, I just have to help him setup the database server, my instructions were confusing for the first pass
[15:01]<@bc_programming> so I rewrote them
[15:01]<Graham> cool
[15:02]<@bc_programming> I haven't actually worked on the program in a while, It's "Finished" more or less, unless he finds some issues once he has it working, I guess
[15:02]<Graham> yeah
[15:03]<@bc_programming> so that's how I am in a nutshell, aside from suffocating and wondering why it's so dark. How about yourself
[15:03]<Graham> haha, I'm good just got back from a meal with my parents and now were sat here doing the usual... waiting for new year to roll in so we can go to bed.
[15:04]<@bc_programming> oh right I sometimes forget the different times stuff
[15:04]<@bc_programming> Happy New Year :D
[15:04]<@bc_programming> still ~10 hours of 2010 left here
[15:04]<Graham> heh, still 2 hours to go for us
[15:04]<Graham> 2010~?
[15:05]<Graham> wow the time difference is bigger than I thought
[15:05]<@bc_programming> sorry 2011, heh
[15:05]<Graham> heh
[15:06]<@bc_programming> yeah forgot millenium savings year doesn't kick in until the third January of the seventh prime number of the date of John Wilkes Booth's birthdate
[15:07]<@bc_programming> oh also writing a huge "Windows Optimization Tips" thing for my blog
[15:07]<@bc_programming> at 5 thousand words or so now, heh
[15:08]<Graham> haha, lets not forget it's rapture again tonight... obviously the whoile of the East has been wiped out already.. were due for the Apocalypse in about 2 hours and you guys will follow us soon after... those damn Mayans didn't think about time zones did they.
[15:08]<Graham> hah cool
[15:08]<@bc_programming> Also been playing a hella lot of terraria lately
[15:09]<@bc_programming> catching up with the updates as it were
[15:09]<Graham> I have that now after it was gifted to me
[15:09]<@bc_programming> yeah I like it, it's like minecraft but also not like minecraft
[15:10]<Graham> Yeah, will have to play some stuff when I get home... I have 3x 1Gb RAM sticks and a sound card waiting for me
[15:10]<@bc_programming> nice
[15:13]<Graham> Yeah, 2 weeks at my parents is starting to grow weary... here's looking forward to Tue
[15:13]<Graham> Plus they bought me Skyrim for the PS3 so want to get back for that
[15:14]<@bc_programming> fun game. Even if it is buggy as hell
[15:14]<Graham> yeah, I can deal with buggyness as long as the game is cool
[15:28]<@bc_programming> well, I sorta got sick of the bugs so I stopped playing, broke immersion too much for me or something, can't put my finger on it
[15:28]<@bc_programming> either that, or I got to a part where I kept dying, I can't remember
[15:32]<Graham> I'll give it a go see what happens.. hopefully it may have been updated on the PS3 to fix some stuff
[15:33]<Graham> Always happens, you buy a game install it and then it says there are updates for this game
[15:35]<@bc_programming> heh... as for gifts I got absolutely nothing, nobody in my family gave or received... Times are tough money-wise. We didn't even have a christmas tree... pretty crap christmas overall but could always be worse
[15:35]<@bc_programming> sorry I really do complain too much
[15:35]<Graham> Not at all, shocker to hear that, I will send you something
[15:36]<@bc_programming> under normal circumstances I'd say "oh I don't want to be a bother" bit I'll just say that would be awesome
[15:37]<@bc_programming> particularly since I can prove that my IRC friends aren't a fictitious whimsy that exists solely in my head
[15:44]<Graham> heh
[16:05]<Graham> OK I sent you something bc_programming
[16:06]<@bc_programming> haha cool
[16:06]<@bc_programming> tyvm
[16:06]<Graham> Wish I could do more
[16:06]<Graham> np
[16:07]<@bc_programming> don't worry about it, you've done more than I would ever have expected :)
[16:07]<@bc_programming> and my milestone was released and he has instructions for me! More work for me :)
[16:07]<Graham> sweet
[16:15]<Graham> my photoshop projects don't seem to come into par with yours
[16:18]<Graham> http://imagebin.org/191165 is my new one
[16:19]<@bc_programming> cool
[16:20]<@bc_programming> I love this, he has the app working and has suggestions and changes he would like, this is AWESOME actually getting paid for this stuff :D And to know something I made is being used somewhere as part of a business feels epic
[16:21]<Graham> I'm really happy for you, I would love that kind of freedom myself
[16:21]<@bc_programming> it's going to be hard work making a proper living off this, but as I do and finish more projects I'll probably build a better reputation and stuff
[16:21]<Graham> I can see you going far with this
[16:25]<Graham> Just don't take on too much work obviously
[16:51]<@bc_programming> Obviously! that would have something of an impact on it's quality
[16:52]<@bc_programming> and at BASeCamp Software Solutions, we take pride in Quality
[16:52]<@bc_programming> we're like the schneiders of software
[16:52]<Graham> haha
[16:58]<@bc_programming> sorry just practicing being a salesman
[16:58]<@bc_programming> I wonder if they think we are like a team of developers, that would be funny
[16:58]<@bc_programming> and by we I mean I
[17:00]<Graham> 2 minutes to new year
[17:00]<Graham> for me
[17:00]<@bc_programming> heh sun hasn't even gone down for me yet :P
[17:00]<Graham> I would work for you, i could make tea... 'earl grey hot'?
[17:00]<@bc_programming> you're hired
[17:00]<Graham> lol
[17:00]<@bc_programming> now go chop firewood
[17:00]<Graham> lol
[17:01]<Graham> Happy new year to one and all, 2012 will be our year I'm sure. Forget passed problems and digressions, think to how you can make 2012 the BEST year ever! Love to all my friends and my family and I can't wait to share in your happenings of 2012. -xx-
[17:02]<@bc_programming> hey heres a fun fact
[17:02]<@bc_programming> did you know, that 2012 backwards, is 2102?
[17:14]<Graham> Just had to do new year with mum and dad... London fireworks were AWESOME
[17:14]<@bc_programming> cool
[17:15]<@bc_programming> I love this.... I'm able to write a program and think "I'm getting paid for this"
[17:15]<@bc_programming> I should have bid more though, but oh well
[17:17]<Graham> Get a rep and then you can charge lots
[17:17]<@bc_programming> I think I would have won if I had bid more, actually
[17:18]<Graham> Learn from it
[17:18]<@bc_programming> everybody else was basically "Hello I am Raul From Liberia and I am ready to start work anytime"
[17:18]<@bc_programming> OTOH, I did notice they have another, closed project that I imagine they still need
[17:18]<Graham> lol, that was me actually
[17:19]<@bc_programming> basically it was a web front-end for the very same information I'm putting in a MySQL database... take a guess who knows PHP and dealing with MySQL databases, haha
[17:19]<@bc_programming> and the budget? 1100-1700 dollars
[17:19]<Graham> wow, cool
[17:19]<@bc_programming> I should bring that up
[17:20]<@bc_programming> there were a bunch of bids but he didn't accept any of them
[17:20]<Graham> yeah
[17:20]<@bc_programming> I'll do it near the end of this one "oh, by the way..."
[17:21]<@bc_programming> because honestly it seems like it would be easier, overall, than this project
[17:21]<Graham> heh yeah
[17:21]<@bc_programming> and I rather like the budget, haha
[17:22]<@bc_programming> "If you still need that, it might be a good idea to hire somebody who happens to know the database layout; maybe even the person who designed it. I happen to be both, if you're interested"
[17:25]<@bc_programming> I LOVE how I already have written so many reusable classes to do stuff I need too...
[17:25]<@bc_programming> "HMM I want this listview to be sortable"
[17:25]<@bc_programming> Just add a class I already wrote, plug in a single line of code, and POOF. It handles all the sorting chores, HAHAHA
[17:26]<Graham> Just waiting for dad to go to bed... I HATE this part of being with my parents... I have to sleep on there sofa/bed. They pay 1380 ponds per month for a one bedroom flat in St Johns Wood... and I have to sleep on a fecking sofa
[17:26]<@bc_programming> woah... that is PRICEY
[17:26]<@bc_programming> we're paying I think just over 1000 dollars for a 3 bedroom
[17:27]<@bc_programming> I'll never complain about rental prices again
[17:27]<@bc_programming> heh
[17:27]<Graham> Yeah, they live in a 'high end' place in London...
[17:27]<@bc_programming> ahhhhh
[17:27]<@bc_programming> that explains it
[17:28]<Graham> There shop/business is in st Johns wood as well... so they stay here...
[17:29]<Graham> A 2 bedroom would cost about 2450 a m onth
[17:29]<@bc_programming> yeah, it's either that or live a fair distance, and then you have to wonder whether you really save money what with the extra petrol or train costs of a commute
[17:32]<Graham> They do have some perks... a 24hr concierge on the main doors a garden with a fish pond and all they have to do for there bins is leave the bag outside the flat door and it gets taken...
[17:33]<@bc_programming> cool
[17:33]<Graham> But they pay a FORTUNE
[17:33]<Graham> I hate how much they pay
[17:36]<@bc_programming> yeah can see that,especially with a rental
[17:36]<@bc_programming> with a mortgage you are actually "Buying" the house, but with renting it basically "goes away"
[17:38]<Graham> yeah, hence when we move to malta it will be a mortgage
[17:43]<@bc_programming> I'm still loving how I'm basically cashing in on stuff I already wrote
[17:43]<@bc_programming> "I need this"
[17:43]<@bc_programming> "well it's a good think I wrote a class to do exactly that a month ago for BASeBlock"
[17:44]<@bc_programming> thing*
[17:47]<Graham> brb
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[18:26]<+camerongray> Happy New Year!
[18:26]<@bc_programming> indeed!
[18:27]<@bc_programming> well, not for another 6 hours for me, heh
[18:27]<@bc_programming> so what are things like in 2012
[18:28]<@bc_programming> quiet, it would seem
[18:28]<+camerongray> Wet and sore feet :P
[18:29]<+camerongray> Just walked 3 miles home in very flat shoes
[18:29]<@bc_programming> heh
[18:29]<@bc_programming> here's a bit of news, my "employer" I guess I can call him that, got back to me, he got my app working, he really likes it, but he wants a few features
[18:30]<@bc_programming> so I'm busy :D
[18:30]<+camerongray> lol
[18:30]<@bc_programming> sorry I just love the fact that I can code, and get paid for it
[18:30]<Tux2> nice!
[18:30]<@bc_programming> it's like having cake and eating it too, I'm so used to it being a "leisure" activity
[18:31]<Tux2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbLircUWG2Y <- how would you guys like this mod in the spoutcraft world?
[18:31]<@bc_programming> AND best of all, a lot of the stuff I've been using I already wrote! I'll think "hmm, this could really use X" and then "well it's a good thing I wrote a class to do X for BASeBlock."
[18:31]<Tux2> :)
[18:32]<@bc_programming> and X isn't always something simple
[18:33]<Tux2> :)
[18:33]<@bc_programming> my INIFile class is actually rather complicated... my VB.NET rewrite attempt has proved that to me... or my MultiTypeManager that manages reflected class types and inspects assemblies... so glad I wrote them in a modular, uncoupled fashion
[18:34]<Tux2> :D
[18:34]<Tux2> I do the same thing with my stuff.
[18:34]<Tux2> A lot of my plugins is a whole bunch of copy/paste
[18:34]<@bc_programming> yeah but it's cool to actually be able to reuse stuff
[18:35]<Tux2> Exactly.
[18:35]<Tux2> I've been collecting a whole bunch of really cool ideas for the spoutcraft world I have planned. :D
[18:35]<@bc_programming> and if I wanted to, I could add support to allow the program to check for updates with 3 lines of code, just need to reference the famous BCUpdateLib which handles all that and turns it into a single function call
[18:37]<Tux2> cool
[18:41]<@bc_programming> the shielding, or lack thereof, on my sound systems external volume thing is starting to get on my nerves. It's picking up the wifi signal from my laptop or something, since it changes depending on whether I'm communicating with the adapter
[18:43]<@bc_programming> there I fixed it
[18:43]<@bc_programming> I put a CD on top of it and it stopped, lol
[18:45]<Tux2> lol
[18:57]<@bc_programming> OMG! he DOES think I am a team... I quote- "...if you guys could add that ..."
[18:57]<@bc_programming> this.ego++
[18:58]<@bc_programming> or maybe this.ego*=2
[19:07]<Tux2> ha ha!
[19:08]<@bc_programming> yeah I guess that's just how awesome I am
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