Session Start: Sat Oct 15 00:00:00 2011
Session Ident: #glitchpc
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Session Start: Sat Oct 15 02:45:16 2011
Session Ident: #glitchpc
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[03:03]<Craig> Well, that was the weirdest glitch I have seen from Shaw yet. :P
[03:03]<Craig> They had a peice of hardware die...
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[09:27]<@BC_Programming> ahhh they changed the MLP intro
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[09:50]<@jacky> GlitchPC: http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/faq/#autoperform
[09:59]<GlitchPC> jacky: Thanks! I already use that to identify. Bookmarked. Will come in handy.
[09:59]<@jacky> :)
[09:59]<@BC_Programming> on an unrelated note, that was the best episode of MLP ever
[09:59]<@jacky> BC_Programming: am talking with Shah
[09:59]<@jacky> he has a problem
[09:59]<@jacky> he has shell with Tux
[10:00]<@jacky> seems that when he does something that returns a lot
[10:00]<@jacky> it hangs
[10:00]<@jacky> like la -ls
[10:00]<@jacky> thoughts?
[10:00]<@BC_Programming> I don't know
[10:00]<@jacky> for now... while Tux is sleeping
[10:00]<@jacky> hehe
[10:00]<@jacky> ok
[10:00]<@BC_Programming> I've never used a remote shell...
[10:00]<@jacky> I took a shot
[10:00]<@jacky> Tnx
[10:00]<@BC_Programming> you tried :P
[10:02]<@jacky> BC_Programming: get one, with that link I gave you the other day
[10:02]<@jacky> with your warped mind, you could be dangerous!
[10:02]<@jacky> hehehe
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[11:49]<Tux2> lol BC_Programming, Atomic Rainboom!
[11:49]<@BC_Programming> like I said that was the best episode ever
[11:49]<@BC_Programming> for a variety of reasons
[11:50]<Tux2> eyup
[11:50]<@BC_Programming> and the intro was revamped
[11:51]<@BC_Programming> I nearly choked on my drink when rarity kept moving the couch thing just to flop in it dramatically, lol
[11:51]<Tux2> lol...
[11:52]<Tux2> and then when the one time she didn't you were expecting her too...
[11:52]<@jacky> Tux2: does your client block incoming notices?
[11:52]<@jacky> sorry to interrupt...
[11:53]<Tux2> Oh, no it doesn't, it just puts them in the PM window if there is one open...
[11:53]<@jacky> ok
[11:53]<@jacky> hint: check your PM window
[11:53]<@jacky> hehe
[11:53]<Tux2> lol...
[11:53]<Tux2> seems to be working now
[11:53]<@jacky> oh?
[11:53]<@jacky> I tried it, just seconds before
[11:53]<@jacky> brb
[11:54]<@jacky> ah
[11:54]<@jacky> "connection refused"
[11:54]<Tux2> IP must have changed... It takes a few minutes sometimes before the record is updated...
[11:54]<Tux2> How many connections does he have open?
[11:54]<@jacky> who?
[11:54]<Tux2> whoah, it does say connection refused...
[11:54]<@jacky> I know
[11:54]<@jacky> I just tried it again
[12:01]<Tux2> Okay, just called my mom, internet went down over there and they didn't even call me...
[12:01]<Tux2> My brother is resetting the modem right now
[12:01]<@jacky> cool
[12:02]<@jacky> while we wait
[12:02]<Tux2> should be back up in 5 minutes
[12:02]<@jacky> ( I asume you've read my pm by now)
[12:02]<@jacky> any thoughts on that?
[12:02]<Tux2> lol, yes
[12:02]<@jacky> then.... for me, it seemed fine
[12:02]<@jacky> for what that is worth
[12:03]<Tux2> lost packets or something. I get that so much when I'm working in this one building, they have soo many lost packets it does that...
[12:03]<Tux2> best advice is a screen session that you connect back up to
[12:03]<@jacky> wow
[12:03]<@jacky> that sucks....
[12:03]<@jacky> because what he has now, is about useless
[12:04]<@jacky> I wonder why it is fine for me, and doesn't work for him
[12:04]<Tux2> where are you?
[12:04]<@jacky> home
[12:04]<@jacky> why?
[12:05]<@BC_Programming> I'm at home too, just in case somebody asks "where is BC" that's the answer
[12:05]<Tux2> I mean country
[12:05]<@jacky> USA
[12:05]<Tux2> He is near india
[12:05]<@BC_Programming> jacky: can you double-check? Har
[12:05] * @jacky checks
[12:05]<Tux2> lol...
[12:05] * @jacky is still here
[12:05]<@jacky> Tux2: and.. ?
[12:06]<Tux2> bigger latency
[12:06]<@jacky> ok
[12:06]<@jacky> I've just never heard of a ssh session being useless before
[12:06]<@jacky> I figured it might be something in his client setup
[12:06]<Tux2> might be...
[12:07]<Tux2> Oh, until the dns record gets updated; 97.118.178.24
[12:07]<@jacky> the way he describes it, it hangs instantly when he uses a command that seems to put a lot of lines on the screen
[12:07]<@jacky> tnx
[12:07]<@jacky> no rush for me
[12:07]<@jacky> :)
[12:07]<Tux2> :)
[12:07]<@jacky> if he has already paid you, will you refund it?
[12:07]<Tux2> Yeah, I'll see if there are settings you can tweak to fix that...
[12:07]<@jacky> "you" ?
[12:07]<Tux2> Yes, I will definitely refund it if he can't use it.
[12:07]<@jacky> I don't have a problem
[12:08]<Tux2> He*
[12:09]<@jacky> I think... that if there was some way you could monitor... when he tries a simple command like ls -la that hangs it, if you could determine for sure, that it is on his end.... that wuold be good to know
[12:11]<@jacky>
[12:11]<@jacky> I guess dns is updated
[12:11]<@jacky> for fun, I just tried it again
[12:11]<@jacky> shows me logged in twice... I guess that is left over from when it died
[12:11]<@jacky> how often does it come around and wipe off old log ins?
[12:12]<Tux2> http://www.snailbook.com/faq/mtu-mismatch.auto.html
[12:12]<Tux2> That describes exactly why he can't use it, his firewall
[12:13]<@jacky> firewall is network interface ?
[12:14]<Tux2> his firewall isn't assembling the packets correctly...
[12:14]<Tux2> so it's dropping them.
[12:14]<@jacky> what do they mean by "network interface" ?
[12:14]<@BC_Programming> NIC
[12:15]<Tux2> the network card in the computer
[12:15]<@jacky> BC_Programming: that's what I thought too
[12:15]<Tux2> I can definitely do what is suggested on my side, see if that solves the issues
[12:15]<@jacky> Tux2: it saying to adjust the "network interface" , not the firewall
[12:15]<Tux2> read the long answer
[12:15]<@jacky> For each network interface on both client and server set the MTU to 576
[12:15]<@jacky>
[12:16]<@jacky> am picking through it too
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> jacky: because the firewall can't work with fragmented TCP packets properly and a larger MTU means it's less likely to get fragmented
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> iirc the default is something like... 64 or something
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> (not sure about that at all)
[12:16]<@jacky> ok
[12:17]<@jacky> ( I wonder how I check my own... )
[12:18]<Tux2> I just set my mtu to that now
[12:18]<@jacky> cool
[12:18]<@jacky> one side, done
[12:18]<@jacky> just curious now
[12:18]<@jacky> looking to see what mine is, if I can find it
[12:18]<@jacky> heh
[12:18]<@BC_Programming> with windows I think it's a registry setting
[12:18]<Tux2> Yeah, and he is using windows
[12:19]<@jacky> BC_Programming: not in Device Manager?
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> sometimes the MTU will be in the network card properties
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> but not always, depends if the driver writers decided to expose that
[12:20]<@jacky> named literally "MTU" , you think?
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> mine didn't, for whatever reason
[12:20]<@jacky> buffers, maybe?
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> also, one way you can see is to run this command
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> netsh interface ipv4 show subinterface
[12:21]<@BC_Programming> for me that gives me 1500 for my MTU
[12:21]<@BC_Programming> the device manager shows 512 for "receive buffers" so they are probably not related
[12:22]<@jacky> that command result for mtu for me is 4294967295
[12:22]<@jacky> first thing listed, right? it is line wrapped here... let me try again
[12:22]<@BC_Programming> no, not the first thing... I have a bunch listed
[12:23]<@BC_Programming> you want the one for "Local Area Connection"
[12:23]<@BC_Programming> "loop-back psuedo interface" was the first one I had listed and it has that value
[12:23]<@jacky> dammit... isn't it ctrl-enter to change to full screen?
[12:23]<@jacky> I'm getting old and forgetting stuff.... sigh
[12:24]<@BC_Programming> Alt enter usually
[12:24]<@jacky> tried that too
[12:24]<@jacky> rats
[12:24]<@BC_Programming> what are you trying it with
[12:24]<@BC_Programming> it doesn't work for Windows windows
[12:25]<@jacky> just to make the "command prompt" window bigger
[12:25]<@jacky> been ages since I tried that...
[12:25]<@jacky> I thought it was me
[12:25]<@BC_Programming> you could change the font size
[12:25]<Tux2> just maximize it
[12:25]<@BC_Programming> cmd can't go fullscreen like command.com could though
[12:25]<@jacky> Tux2: I did... gets long and tall
[12:25]<@jacky> ok... what do I do, to get a full screen?
[12:25]<Tux2> yup, it doesn't go any wider...
[12:26]<@jacky> grrr
[12:26]<@BC_Programming> unless you change it to do so...
[12:26]<@BC_Programming> Alt+Spacebar, properties, layout tab
[12:27]<Tux2> ALT+Enter works for me
[12:28]<@BC_Programming> it does nothing here
[12:28]<Tux2> but that was xp
[12:28]<@jacky> hehehe changed it to be read wide
[12:28]<@jacky> with layout
[12:28]<@jacky> and it STILL line wraps
[12:28]<@BC_Programming> what do you mean? I have a similar crazy big value but mine doesn't wrap around
[12:29]<@jacky> hard to explain
[12:29]<@BC_Programming> the first line doesn't lineup proper but that's because of the crazy-big value
[12:29]<@jacky> to me, it looks like aline wrap
[12:29]<@jacky>
[12:29]<@jacky>
[12:29]<@jacky> MTU MediaSenseState Bytes In Bytes Out Interface
[12:29]<@jacky> ------ --------------- --------- --------- -------------
[12:29]<@jacky> 4294967295 1 0 120661 Loopback Pseudo-Interface 1
[12:29]<@jacky> 1500 1 3906368789 168202095 Local Area Connection
[12:29]<@jacky>
[12:29]<@jacky> is what I see
[12:29]<@jacky>
[12:30]<@jacky> from that, can you tell what mine is set to?
[12:30]<@BC_Programming> 1500
[12:30]<@jacky> that's not a line wrap?
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> no. after loopback Psuedo Interface 1 there is a line break
[12:31]<Tux2> lol BC_Programming, I love how spike interacted with the background...
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> and it starts the next 'record'/adapter
[12:31]<@jacky> BC_Programming: ok.. the stuff not lining up threw me off, I guess
[12:31]<@jacky> tnx
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[12:32]<Tux2> hey shah
[12:32]<Shah> yes Tux
[12:32]<@jacky> cool
[12:32]<@jacky> everybody is here
[12:32]<Tux2> I think I solved the problem
[12:32]<@jacky> :)
[12:32]<Shah> :( sorry
[12:32]<Shah> but i shd go to home
[12:32]<Shah> am for 10-15 mins
[12:33]<@jacky> are you saying that you are here now, for 10 minutes or so?
[12:33]<Shah> *am here
[12:33]<Shah> yes jacky :)
[12:33]<@jacky> cool
[12:33]<@jacky> Tux2: is that enough for you to tell him what to do?
[12:35]<@jacky> Shah: while you wait, can you log back in again using putty, and try ls -la again
[12:35]<@jacky> to see if it behaves any different, now?
[12:35]<Shah> ok
[12:39]<@BC_Programming> I wish my laptop had a simply key combination to disable the touchpad
[12:39]<Shah> working fine
[12:39]<@jacky> BC_Programming: use a small sledghammer. gauranteed to disalbe it
[12:39]<@jacky> Shah: it is?
[12:39]<@jacky> Shah: Great!
[12:40]<Shah> jacky yes:)
[12:40]<@BC_Programming> victory!
[12:40]<Shah> its fine now
[12:40] * @jacky does the happy dance
[12:40]<Shah> BC_Programming :)
[12:40]<Shah> ))
[12:40]<@BC_Programming> despite what everybody else might say it was all my idea
[12:40]<@jacky> Tux2: Thanks!
[12:40]<@jacky> har
[12:40]<Shah> Tux2 thanks
[12:40]<Tux2> No problem. :)
[12:41]<Shah> now i want to remove the standart eggdrop and install this version
[12:41]<Tux2> Now I'm answering a thread where a few other people are having the same issue but there is no answer...
[12:41]<Shah> http://egghelp.net/files/eggdrop1.6.20-sp0010.tar.gz
[12:41]<Shah> hope it will work without issues
[12:41]<@jacky> Shah: only one way to find out
[12:41]<@jacky> hehe
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[12:41]<@jacky> boom!
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[12:42]<@jacky> wb
[12:42]<Shah> thx
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> that 'peer' guy is kind of a jerk, always resetting connections
[12:43]<@jacky> hehe
[12:43]<@jacky> BC_Programming: I set the Layout of the dos window back to 80 and 25, like I found it
[12:43]<@jacky> now
[12:43]<@jacky> it let's me pull it out, by the edge
[12:43]<@jacky> wouldn't od that before
[12:43]<Tux2> hmmm
[12:43]<Tux2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11348573#post11348573
[12:44]<@jacky> Tux2: but for now, isn't "don't fix it anymore if it ain't broke anymore" best?
[12:44]<Shah> how to properly remove the existing eggdrop? :)
[12:44]<Shah> shd i remove folder?
[12:44]<@jacky> Shah: yep
[12:45]<@jacky> Shah: carefully
[12:45]<Shah> carefully? :)
[12:45]<Tux2> jacky: that was me responding to everyone with the answer...
[12:45]<@jacky> dont' remove some other directories, and all, with -f by mistake
[12:45]<Shah> rm -r -f ./eggd*
[12:46]<Shah> is it ok?
[12:46]<@jacky> Tux2: ah. ok
[12:46]<@jacky> Shah: I'd have to check. I bet Tux cananswer off the top of his head
[12:46]<Tux2> yes shah, that command is allright
[12:46]<Shah> jacky ok
[12:46]<Shah> ok Tux2, thx
[12:47]<Tux2> if you WERE to delete everything I could just restore your home folder
[12:47]<Tux2> can't do much damage outside of it anyways
[12:47]<Shah> done, now i want to install another version
[12:47]<@jacky>
[12:47]<@jacky> Tux2: I'd found: http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2007/11/setting-mtu-in-windows-vista.html
[12:47]<@jacky> for what that is worth
[12:47]<@jacky>
[12:48]<Tux2> nice jacky! *bookmarks*
[12:48]<@jacky> is that "persistent" part important? in other words, should you edi tyour post?
[12:49]<@jacky> oh wait
[12:49]<@jacky> you were talking linux, right?
[12:49]<@BC_Programming> his post is for linux :P
[12:49]<@jacky> I'm jumping around too m uch
[12:50]<@jacky> although, it could be handy to have that link in the post, in case just fixing the linux end was not enough to cure the problem
[12:50]<Tux2> hmm... well, if they have a windows machine...
[12:50]<@jacky> ... just a thought...
[12:50]<@jacky>
[12:51]<@BC_Programming> ... did it hurt?
[12:51]<@BC_Programming> :P
[12:51]<@jacky> that won't hurt much... ... did it?
[12:51]<@jacky> hehe
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[13:02]<Tux2> Hey BC_Programming, mind voting again for my server?
[13:02]<@BC_Programming> voting?
[13:02]<@BC_Programming> did I vote
[13:02]<Tux2> You can vote every 24 hours
[13:02]<@BC_Programming> oh
[13:02]<@BC_Programming> linky
[13:03]<Tux2> http://minestatus.net/4138-tux2-s-minecraft-server/vote http://mcserverstatus.com/action/viewserver/5821
[13:06]<Tux2> BC_Programming: anonymous?
[13:07]<@BC_Programming> yes. they shortened In game name to "IGN" which confused the bejesus out of me
[13:07]<Tux2> lol...
[13:11]<Shah2> Thanks Tux2 jacky
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[13:11]<@jacky> yer welcome
[13:11]<@jacky> heh
[13:11]<@jacky> poof
[13:12]<Tux2> lol
[13:12]<@jacky> I think it is a little bit of English as a second lang
[13:12]<@jacky> because
[13:12]<@jacky> he's not dumb
[13:12]<@jacky> he's kind of funny, at times
[13:14]<Tux2> lol. Yeah, he did have a PEBKAC error with ssh...
[13:14]<@jacky> oh?
[13:14]<@jacky> what'd he do?
[13:15]<Tux2> he put the port number in, then picked ssh, which reset the port number before he connected
[13:15] * @jacky is so proud of myself... that I know what PEBKAC even is
[13:15]<@jacky> oh.. that's aputty thing
[13:15]<@BC_Programming> I wouldn't call that a pebkac error
[13:15]<@jacky> craig's server(s)... he has one on one port and other on another... same ip
[13:15]<@BC_Programming> I'd call call that shite user interface design
[13:15]<@jacky> I have to manually fiddle it
[13:15]<Tux2> lol...
[13:16]<Tux2> I just saved the settings so that it will always connect
[13:16]<@jacky> I found that changing the saved settings can wack it, sometimes
[13:16]<@jacky> can't remember the details righ tnow...
[13:16]<@jacky> but I think i was changing one, and it wacked the saved one I have for pottsi
[13:17]<@jacky> and... since I'd come to rely on it... I didn't even consider that THAT could be the sudden, new problem
[13:17]<@jacky> We're talking about Putty here, right?
[13:17]<@jacky> Putty for windows
[13:17]<Tux2> yup
[13:17]<@jacky> like any tool, one must get used to it....
[13:18]<@jacky> bc is our favorite tool, in this channel, by the way
[13:18]<@jacky> <g>
[13:19]<@jacky>
[13:19]<@jacky> ok... see you all later/tomorrow/sometime
[13:19]<@jacky>
[13:20]<@jacky> thanks, all
[13:20]<@jacky>
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[13:42]<Tux2> lol, i thought I was sending a wireshark sniff to someone who needed it for minecraft packets but it turns out it saved all my packets during that time...
[13:42]<Tux2> good thing I wasn't doing anything except minecraft at the moment...
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[14:34]<Tux2> lol BC_Programming, what was funny was that they actually put sunglasses on RD this episode...
[14:49]<@jacky> Tux2: is there a port assigned to Shah's bot?
[14:50]<Tux2> I don't have a port opened for it... does he need a remote management port?
[14:50]<Shah> yes please Tux2
[14:50]<Shah> please 3322 if its possible
[14:50]<Tux2> any prefrence?
[14:51]<@jacky> Tux2: tnx. :)
[14:51]<Shah> Tux2 thx
[14:52]<@jacky> Shah: you should test that, as soon as Tux replies and say it is ok to test
[14:52]<@jacky> :)
[14:52]<@jacky> get it done, while he is here now
[14:52]<Shah> seems port still closed
[14:52]<Tux2> which port does he want?
[14:52]<@jacky> Shah: that's why I said to test it now. :)
[14:53]<@jacky> Tux2: huh?
[14:53]<Shah> Tux2 3322
[14:53]<Tux2> ah, missed it...
[14:53]<@jacky> oh
[14:53]<@jacky> ok
[14:53]<@jacky> hehehe
[14:53]<@jacky> Tux2: will you have to make a phone call, to have router rebooted or anything?
[14:53]<Shah> and can i configure crontab?
[14:54]<@jacky> Shah: type crontab -e
[14:54]<@jacky> whta happens? anything?
[14:54]<Tux2> jacky: nope, I can do all that remotely
[14:54]<Tux2> done
[14:54]<@jacky> Tux2: very cool
[14:54]<Shah> i want to use for botchk
[14:55]<Tux2> also, yes, I do allow a crontab task.
[14:56]<Shah> Tux2 telnet worked
[14:56]<@jacky> Tux2: I told him to use: tmw.jrtechsupport.com <<< is this ok, and preferred?
[14:56]<@jacky> for telnet to bot
[14:58]<Tux2> well, it is still there... tmw.jrtechsupport.com, home.jrtechsupport.com, both work
[14:59]<Tux2> I think even ssh.jrtechsupport.com works...
[15:00]<@jacky> cool
[15:00]<@jacky> tnx
[15:00]<Tux2> I try to keep all those pointing to the same place. The only unreliable one would be the dyndns one as that one is subject to change from time to time...
[15:01]<@jacky> tnx
[15:01]<Tux2> no problem
[15:01]<@jacky> just whatever you prefer, is what he/me should use
[15:01]<@jacky> :)
[15:02]<Tux2> :)
[15:02]<Tux2> an alternate, backup address you can use which uses a backup dyndns service is ttt.mfav.me just in case something happens to the first service.
[15:07]<@jacky> I'll stick with the one I've been using, and if I hit a snag, will contact you then
[15:07]<@jacky> heheeh
[15:07]<@jacky> you know K.I.S.S. ?
[15:07]<@jacky> this is it
[15:07]<@jacky> heheheeh
[15:07]<Tux2> lol, yup
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[15:36]<@jacky> be back later/tomorrow/sometime....
[15:36]<@jacky>
[15:36]<@jacky> Tux2: tnx again
[15:36]<@jacky> :)
[15:36]<@jacky>
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[19:37]<Tannim> !help
[19:52]<Tannim> Tux2 you here? I'm about to lose my linux loving mind!
[20:09]<Tux2> what's up Tannim?
[20:13]<Tannim> I think I'm going to scream. Trying to set up a mysql server on my linux box but something is going terribly horribly wrong. i think i must've missed something
[20:13]<Tux2> what exactly have you done?
[20:14]<Tannim> let's see...i got mysql and phpmyadmin through apt-get
[20:15]<Tannim> left the default user, changed the password through install
[20:16]<Tannim> checked with netstat and it appears to be working
[20:17]<Tux2> are you trying to access it locally or on another machine?
[20:17]<Tannim> either way
[20:17]<Tannim> actually, i'd like to be able to hit it from this machine, my laptop, and nell's laptop
[20:17]<Tux2> do: sudo service mysqld restart
[20:18]<Tannim> unrecognized service where did i goof
[20:21]<@BC_Programming> wouldn't it be just mysql and not mysqld? that's how it shows in my service list
[20:21]<Tannim> that was it
[20:21]<Tannim> mysql start/running, process 6176
[20:22]<@BC_Programming> I only connect to mysql locally since that is where php is running, though
[20:25]<Tannim> i'd be thrilled if i could even do that
[20:26]<@BC_Programming> I recall having to reinstall phpmyadmin the first time before it would work, not sure why
[20:31]<Tannim> wow, you can tell i've had to spend too much time around macs lately. didn't config
[20:46]<Tannim> shouldn't there be more in my phpmyadmin folder than just blowfish_secret.inc.php config.inc.php tmp
[20:47]<@BC_Programming> I honestly have no idea, personally
[20:47]<Tux2> did you install apache?
[20:47]<Tannim> no, i don't believe i did
[20:48]<Tannim> but even the index.php and documentation.html files that the quick start guide says should be there are missing
[20:49]<Tannim> or am i in the wrong phpmyadmin folder? is there more than one?
[20:49]<Tannim> i really did try to figure this out before i bugged you. i think the macs are melting my brain
[20:50]<Tux2> interesting...
[20:50]<Tux2> do: sudo apt-get install apache2
[20:52]<Tannim> that was fast
[21:04]<Tannim> ok, if you go all the way back to the root directory and do all the apt-get ing from there, what is the default folder for phpmyadmin and mysql
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