Session Start: Fri Oct 14 00:00:00 2011
Session Ident: #glitchpc
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[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[00:00] * Set by jacky on Tue Mar 02 11:03:23
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[07:13]<@BC_Programming> I recall saying "minecraft is awesome" in Alpha 1.2.5
[07:13]<@BC_Programming> if that's the case I don't know what it is now
[07:13]<@BC_Programming> super awesome I guess
[07:14]<@BC_Programming> Potions- Awesome. Enchantments - Awesome, nether stuff- awesome
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[07:21]<@BC_Programming> OK... first Steve Jobs, and now Dennis Ritchie
[07:21]<@BC_Programming> it's like last year when celebrities were dying, except now it's people that actually did something important
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[07:53]<+camerongray> Right - I've decided I'm switching this 19" TV I'm using as a monitor for my spare 17" monitor
[07:53]<+camerongray> Going back to 4:3 but much higher rexs
[07:53]<+camerongray> res*
[07:53]<@BC_Programming> that's a big change
[07:53]<@BC_Programming> have you properly prepared yourself? filled out your will and all that?
[08:00]<+camerongray> lol
[08:01]<+camerongray> hmm - It looks clearer but so narrow!
[08:01]<+camerongray> Nope - Don't like this
[08:01]<+camerongray> Oh well, rubbish TV it is
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[08:35]<GlitchPC> How's #glitchpc doin' today?
[08:39]<@BC_Programming> it feels purple
[08:40]<GlitchPC> purple?
[08:41]<@BC_Programming> of course
[08:41]<GlitchPC> how's that?
[08:41]<@BC_Programming> :P
[08:41]<@BC_Programming> I dunno was just being random
[08:44]<GlitchPC> random...that's a good thing
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[09:57]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: ping
[09:59]<@jacky> Pong
[09:59]<@BC_Programming> heh
[10:16]<GlitchPC> Microsoft acquisitioned Skype?
[10:16]<@BC_Programming> yeah that's old news
[10:17]<GlitchPC> first i heard...man...i'm always a day late and a dollar short
[10:18]<GlitchPC> Wow! the sun's coming out
[10:18]<@BC_Programming> yeah that happens every day in fact
[10:18]<@BC_Programming> lol
[10:18]<GlitchPC> it may come out/up...seeing it is relative though
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[10:34]<@BC_Programming> !seen Mulreay
[10:34]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[10:35]<@BC_Programming> last thing I have from him in a query is "F*** this", then he left and hasn't been back since?
[10:36]<@jacky> I think I saw him say something.... was it yesteray?.... about his meds
[10:37]<@jacky> and, from what I saw and experienced a couple days ago... it would make sense
[10:37]<@jacky> he was way out there
[10:37]<@jacky> could this... what you say... be part of that?
[10:37]<@BC_Programming> could very well be
[10:37]<@jacky> I hope he is ok
[10:37]<@BC_Programming> me too
[10:39]<@jacky> !seen my_butt
[10:40]<@jacky> just thought of Street, and had to do that
[10:40]<@jacky> heh
[10:40]<@BC_Programming> hehe
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[10:55]<GlitchPC> jacky: What was the name of that irc client? mIRC was it?
[10:55]<@jacky> I like, and use mIRC... yes
[10:55]<@jacky> !say *irc*
[10:55]<@jacky> !say mirc
[10:55]<@jacky> there's one
[10:55]<@jacky> and several more
[10:55]<GlitchPC> any of them free?
[10:56]<@jacky> I believe:
[10:56]<GlitchPC> and thanks
[10:56]<@jacky> !say kvirc
[10:56]<@jacky> !say hydrairc
[10:56]<GlitchPC> sweet...thanks, again
[10:56]<@jacky> mirc is shareware, that just keeps on working with a nag, after xx days or something
[10:56]<@jacky> not sure about xchat
[10:56]<@jacky> we are talking Windows here, right?
[10:56]<GlitchPC> yes...xp
[10:57]<@BC_Programming> xchat is commercial on windows, free on linux. (for some reason)
[10:57]<@jacky> if it were me, I'd check out mirc, kvirc, and hydrairc
[10:57]<@jacky> BC_Programming: all software must be free... at least the source... for linux, right?
[10:57]<@BC_Programming> no... it doesn't have to be by any means
[10:58]<@BC_Programming> typically it is though
[10:58]<@jacky> oh?
[10:58]<@jacky> I thought that .. what's his name... Linus Torvulds made that a rule
[10:58]<@BC_Programming> nope
[10:58]<@jacky> then I dreamed that?
[10:58]<@BC_Programming> evidently... there is plenty of commercial and not-open source software for Linux
[10:58]<@BC_Programming> skype, for example
[10:59]<@jacky> I thought that was what used to be a major "thing" about linux... security, since one could d/l the source and hack it
[10:59]<@BC_Programming> a good portion of drivers aren't open source either, specifically those released by Nvidia and ATI
[10:59]<@jacky> interesting
[10:59]<@jacky> someday I'll google some, and see if I can find out where I got that idea
[10:59]<@jacky> tnx
[11:00]<@BC_Programming> I think you are thinking of the GPL, which most Linux stuff is licensed under, and requires the source to be available
[11:00]<@jacky> ok
[11:00]<@jacky> is linux itself licensed under that?
[11:00]<@BC_Programming> I believe the Linux kernel is GPLv2
[11:00]<@jacky> what's v2 ?
[11:00]<@jacky> mean?
[11:00]<@BC_Programming> and no I don't know the difference between the versions
[11:01]<@BC_Programming> "version 2"
[11:01]<@jacky> heh
[11:01]<@jacky> duh
[11:01]<@BC_Programming> apparently they changed it for a version 3 or something
[11:01]<@jacky> well... then linux itself must be free... at least the source
[11:01]<@jacky> is that right?
[11:01]<@BC_Programming> yep
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[11:01]<@jacky> maybe that is what I sort of extended/blended
[11:02]<@BC_Programming> of course because the Linux kernel doesn't use GPLv3, it's instantly evil in the eyes of the great Stallman
[11:02]<@BC_Programming> and I do say "great" ironically
[11:03]<@jacky> he's the guy you mentioned.... what is it?... he wants everything to be free?
[11:03]<@BC_Programming> yeah he wrote a text editor(emacs), stopped maintaining it and 'let' other people work on it, and now just complains about the licenses software uses
[11:04]<@jacky> I tried that once... emacs ... I think it sounds familiar
[11:04]<@jacky> years ago
[11:04]<@jacky> long time
[11:04]<@jacky> wow
[11:04]<@jacky> it is not what you want, if you just need to edit something real quick
[11:04]<@jacky> and you are a linux beginner
[11:05]<@jacky> can you use it? ever used it?
[11:05]<Tux2> BC_Programming: you pinged me a while back?
[11:05]<@BC_Programming> I have it on my laptop, but I find it utterly useless
[11:05]<@jacky> it's alive!!!!!!!!!!
[11:05]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: yes
[11:05]<@jacky> BC_Programming: too complicated?
[11:05]<@BC_Programming> jacky: overcomplicated. It tries to turn text editing into rocket science
[11:06]<@jacky> good analogy
[11:06]<@jacky> I feel the same, from what I remember
[11:06]<@jacky> talk to Tux... I'm back to what I was doing
[11:06]<@jacky> tnx
[11:06]<@jacky>
[11:06]<@BC_Programming> heh
[11:06]<Tux2> lol...
[11:06]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: I finally 'finished' that second season song
[11:06]<@BC_Programming> but it's still awful
[11:08]<@BC_Programming> the difficult part is I had to make it "quietly" to avoid clipping...
[11:08]<Tux2> lol...
[11:10]<@BC_Programming> needless to say I think I will stick to photoshop
[11:12]<Tux2> lol, I dare say...
[11:13]<Tux2> sounds just as bad as what I would do...
[11:13]<@BC_Programming> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylvtvAWEnRA
[11:13]<@BC_Programming> oh
[11:13]<@BC_Programming> was expecting something else
[11:14]<@BC_Programming> it might be better if I could get a microphone that didn't clip so bloody easily
[11:15]<@BC_Programming> I just love how smart youtube is
[11:15]<@BC_Programming> you post a comment on your own channel say in response to somebody
[11:15]<@BC_Programming> and it E-mails you
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[11:19]<GlitchPC> Thanks, jacky. Using hydrairc.
[11:19]<@jacky> cool
[11:19]<@BC_Programming> camerongray uses hydrairc
[11:19]<@jacky> I played with it, a long time ago
[11:19]<@jacky> if I recall, it has a lot of windows, if you wish... with a lot of info
[11:19]<GlitchPC> a little cluttered...different from mIRC
[11:19]<@jacky> BC_Programming: he still uses it? I thought... nah... I don't know
[11:20]<@BC_Programming> well I just remember seeing the quit message now and again
[11:20]<@jacky> GlitchPC: close, or at least shrink.. the windows you discover that you don't need all the time
[11:20]<@jacky> BC_Programming: we'll have to ask him... can't remember.
[11:21]<GlitchPC> going to have to do some reading up
[11:21]<@jacky> ?
[11:21]<@jacky> on...?
[11:21]<GlitchPC> Learn how to use this client
[11:21]<@BC_Programming> on how to be old
[11:21]<@BC_Programming> oh
[11:21]<@BC_Programming> nevermind
[11:21]<@jacky> oh, yes
[11:21]<@BC_Programming> :P
[11:21]<GlitchPC> don't have to read that BC...
[11:21]<@jacky> BC_Programming: he wrote the book!!
[11:21]<GlitchPC> LMAO
[11:22]<@jacky> that was just tooooo easy
[11:22]<@jacky> BC_Programming: nice pitch, by the way
[11:22]<GlitchPC> Well...there ya go
[11:23]<Tux2> lol...
[11:23]<Tux2> I just use xchat
[11:23]<@BC_Programming> yeah but that's not free for windows
[11:23]<Tux2> there is a version that's free for windows
[11:24]<@BC_Programming> is there? I thought it was commercial or something
[11:27]<Tux2> http://code.google.com/p/xchat-wdk/
[11:27]<@BC_Programming> cool
[11:28]<Tux2> http://code.google.com/p/xchat-wdk/downloads/detail?name=XChat-WDK%201496-6.exe&can=2&q=
[11:28]<Tux2> yup. :)
[11:28]<Tux2> A quick google search reveals it.
[11:29]<@jacky> I'm googling " how to teach BC to use google" ....
[11:30]<@jacky>
[11:30]<@jacky> there is some interesting reading here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XChat#Shareware_controversy
[11:30]<@jacky> not sure what to make of it....
[11:32]<Tux2> Yeah, I know
[11:33]<Tux2> TuxReminder is built using GPL code, therefore, he is licensed under the GLP license
[11:33]<@jacky> not the GPL license, eh?
[11:33]<@jacky> heheeh
[11:33]<@jacky> sounds like a goldfish... glup, glup
[11:33]<Tux2> lol...
[11:34]<@jacky> couldn't resist
[11:34]<@jacky> I do dyslexic typing all the time, myself
[11:34]<Tux2> More like my keyboard doesn't like me...
[11:35]<@jacky> wait 'till it sends 10K volts to your fingertips
[11:36]<Tux2> lol
[11:36]<@jacky> http://oaks.nvg.org/h/homskrim.jpg
[11:37]<Tux2> uhoh...
[11:37]<@jacky> eh?
[11:38]<Tux2> Hey BC_Programming, now that we have 42 slots on the minecraft server mind posting in the thread on the forum that I have for the server to bump it back up in the list?
[11:38]<Tux2> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/259400-tux2s-minecraft-server-247-looking-for-players-whitelistbukkit42-slotsurvivalcreativespout/
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[11:51]<@BC_Programming> wow I just recorded a 20 minute rant about registry cleaners
[11:52]<Tux2> lol....
[11:52]<@jacky> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/
[11:52]<@jacky> saw it today
[11:52]<@jacky> hehehehe
[11:52]<@BC_Programming> haha
[11:52]<Tux2> BC_Programming: get it for your clean install in a vm. ;)
[11:52]<@jacky> and see how much it "finds"?
[11:52]<@BC_Programming> yeah I highly doubt I'll ever actually do that
[11:53]<@BC_Programming> I've been meaning to for a good year but never bothered...
[11:53]<Tux2> lol...
[11:54]<@BC_Programming> I'm surprised how long I was able to go for in my 'rant', thought I was going to need a script
[11:55]<Tux2> lol!
[11:56]<Tux2> BC_Programming: did you see my message about the server up there?
[11:56]<@BC_Programming> yes
[11:57]<@BC_Programming> reminds me of my idea for 1.9
[11:57]<@BC_Programming> you could reset the nether
[11:58]<Tux2> :) Good idea.
[11:58]<Tux2> Nether reset would be good
[11:58]<@BC_Programming> I'd lose the bridge but we would gain those nether fortresses
[11:58]<Tux2> I'm thinking the diamond portal might be used when we go to 1.9
[11:59]<Tux2> new 1.9 map = diamond portal
[11:59]<Tux2> or should I switch the main map over to a 1.9 generated map?
[11:59]<@BC_Programming> I dunno
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[12:00]<Tux2> lol...
[12:00]<@BC_Programming> personally for each new update I ditch everything an start a new world all over, but not everybody would like that
[12:00]<Tux2> I'll post a poll on the forum...
[12:00]<@BC_Programming> camerongray in particular get's dreadful attached to his creations
[12:00]<Tux2> yeah
[12:00]<GlitchPC> minecraft...enlighten me
[12:01]<GlitchPC> ...or not
[12:01]<GlitchPC> is it fun?
[12:01]<GlitchPC> is it free?
[12:01]<@BC_Programming> it's fun
[12:02]<GlitchPC> does it hurt as much as this?
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[12:02]<@BC_Programming> minecraft classic is free
[12:02]<@BC_Programming> but IMO minecraft classic blows
[12:02]<@BC_Programming> it's the survival that is where it's at, but that is 15 euros or 20 dollars or thereabouts
[12:02]<GlitchPC> how does one play?
[12:02]<GlitchPC> ahh
[12:02]<@BC_Programming> http://www.minecraft.net/
[12:03]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/images/creeps.png
[12:03]<Tux2> GlitchPC: if you get the game I'll whitelist you on the server
[12:04]<Tux2> lol
[12:04]<@BC_Programming> sorry I just love that image
[12:04]<@BC_Programming> he was just sitting there, staring at me
[12:04]<GlitchPC> kk...will let you know...looking at the youtube vid now
[12:04]<Tux2> Our server website is here: http://tux2mc.com It has a huge amount of images and stuff on it for you to browse
[12:05]<@BC_Programming> this guy does good videos on youtube
[12:05]<@BC_Programming> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwaoH3HoD9c
[12:05]<GlitchPC> you can play this in your browser? OR do I need to purchase it?
[12:05]<GlitchPC> Just for clarification
[12:05]<@BC_Programming> GlitchPC for the "real" version you need to buy it
[12:05]<@BC_Programming> the "beta" you need to buy, Minecraft classic is free
[12:05]<Tux2> exactly.
[12:06]<GlitchPC> gotcha
[12:06]<Tux2> If you wanted to try out the beta I have a cracked launcher I made. you just wouldn't be able to join the server.
[12:06]<@BC_Programming> no cracked, you have a "made friendly" launcher
[12:06]<@BC_Programming> heh
[12:11]<Tux2> lol!
[12:11]<Tux2> http://tux2mc.com/article.php?story=2011101412065933
[12:14]<@BC_Programming> question: if I update spoutcraft will I still be able to join the server?
[12:17]<Tux2> yes
[12:17]<@BC_Programming> oh, thx
[12:17]<Tux2> mcmmo has an interesting graphical glitch...
[12:17]<Tux2> It's semi-transparent.
[12:18]<Tux2> but yeah, I updated just to see...
[12:18]<Tux2> works fiine
[12:22]<Tux2> thanks for the bump BC_Programming. Appreciate it. :D
[12:22]<@BC_Programming> np
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[12:23]<Tux2> I
[12:24]<Tux2> I'm thinking of paying for a premium slot for one of the minecraft server list websites.
[12:24]<@BC_Programming> cool
[12:25]<Tux2> Yeah, I put in a bid of $35 on the most popular one... Hopefully 2 servers don't pay so I get on...
[12:25]<Tux2> http://minestatus.net/sponsored/bids
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Session Start: Fri Oct 14 13:01:24 2011
Session Ident: #glitchpc
[13:01] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[13:01] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[13:01] * Set by jacky on Tue Mar 02 11:03:23
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[13:01]<@jacky> !g 2 + 2 =
[13:01]<@jacky> ! 75F in C =
[13:01]<@jacky> !g 75F in C =
[13:02]<@jacky> !g 1 dollar in pounds =
[13:02]<@jacky>
[13:02]<@jacky> !g is your friend
[13:02]<@jacky> !g test
[13:05]<@jacky> !g test
[13:06]<@jacky> !g is your friend
[13:06]<@jacky>
[13:06]<@jacky>
[13:06]<@jacky> BC_Programming: I knew that !google was broken, and just had not gotten around to finding a newer version
[13:06]<@jacky> BC_Programming: did that today
[13:07]<@jacky> BC_Programming: and... you see I've played with it briefly
[13:07]<@jacky> BC_Programming: this is a way different version... somebody else took it over
[13:07]<@jacky> BC_Programming: let me know if you get a chance to play with it, and what happens, etc., etc.
[13:07]<@jacky> tnx
[13:07]<@jacky>
[13:07]<@jacky> Tux2: ditto
[13:07]<@jacky>
[13:07]<@jacky> sonicrules1234: ditto
[13:07]<@jacky>
[13:07]<@jacky> Craig: ditto
[13:07]<@jacky>
[13:20]<sonicrules1234> Huh?
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[13:24]<GlitchPC> anybody here?
[13:25]<@jacky> not for long...
[13:26]<GlitchPC> no prob...just checking...
[13:26]<@jacky> chatzilla now?
[13:27]<GlitchPC> yeah...testing
[13:27]<GlitchPC> wanted something a little less intrusive and complicated
[13:28]<@jacky> I think the "best" is usually whatever one gets used to
[13:28]<@jacky> heh
[13:28]<GlitchPC> it was mirc but, that was some time ago
[13:28]<GlitchPC> I remember you taking all that time to instruct me on its use
[13:30]<@jacky> I got used to mIRC from ages ago
[13:30]<@jacky> and, it IS like the king kong of windows IRC programs, having beena round so long
[13:30]<@jacky> to each his own.... :)
[13:31]<GlitchPC> Well...who knows...maybe I'll pay for it...one of these days
[13:31]<@jacky> ( and I can only scratch the surface)
[13:31]<@jacky> that's the idea behind shareware.... to see if one feels it is worth it / wants it
[13:32]<GlitchPC> this is so true
[13:32]<@jacky> is chatzilla something like an addon for firefox?
[13:33]<GlitchPC> yes
[13:33]<@jacky> cool
[13:34]<GlitchPC> so far...so good but, I have to see if there are scripts for idntifying
[13:35]<@jacky> see? ... made you lazy, didnt' we?
[13:35]<@jacky> heh
[13:35]<GlitchPC> yes...YOU did
[13:35]<@jacky> I have to work at it, just to remember my own pw
[13:35]<@jacky> that's the danger
[13:36]<GlitchPC> this, too, is sooo true
[13:37]<GlitchPC> well...we're having a storm here...guess I better call it a night
[13:37]<GlitchPC> have a good one jacky
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[13:37]<@jacky> ok...
[13:37]<@jacky> !g chatzilla scripting
[13:41]<@jacky>
[13:41]<@jacky> be back later
[13:41]<@jacky>
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[15:29]<stillwire> hey
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[15:57]<@jacky> stillwire: Hello
[16:04]<stillwire> what's up
[16:05]<@jacky> not much
[16:05]<@jacky> you?
[16:05]<@jacky> ( watching stove... brb )
[16:09]<stillwire> well, a got a new job and I got fired on the first day, that was pretty depressing
[16:10]<stillwire> but I think I'm over it now
[16:11]<@jacky> wow
[16:11]<@jacky> doing what?
[16:11]<@jacky> and... why?
[16:14]<stillwire> one sec on the phone
[16:14]<@jacky> np
[16:14]<@jacky> I'm back-n-forth myself
[16:15]<@jacky> but tnx
[16:17]<stillwire> getting yelled at by my girlfriend
[16:17]<stillwire> probably soon to be ex again
[16:22]<@jacky> heh
[16:22]<@jacky> tell me about it later
[16:22]<@jacky> I'm going to eat
[16:23]<stillwire> ok
[16:23]<@jacky> oh
[16:23]<@jacky> you here?
[16:23]<@jacky> real quick... what happened at work?
[16:23]<stillwire> i'm not a very fast mail sorter it seems
[16:23]<@jacky> was it US Post office?
[16:23]<stillwire> no it was a law firm
[16:23]<@jacky> wow.. they must have a lot of mail
[16:24]<@jacky>
[16:24]<@jacky> be back later...
[16:24]<@jacky>
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[16:26]<Tux2> Oh, a caped player just requested to be whitelisted!
[16:34]<Tux2> BC_Programming: you got to hear this! The new player not only has a minecon cape, he's also a brony!
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[17:36]<mib_e71pue> Hey folks. My question is about C and passing a string through a couple of recursive functions. The code i'm working with is here: http://pastebin.com/My2wZYHd For some reason, the string's data changes somewhere in the code. I would appreciate help, I'm not very programming-savvy.
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