Session Start: Fri Oct 07 00:00:00 2011
Session Ident: #glitchpc
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[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[00:00] * Set by jacky on Tue Mar 02 11:03:23
[00:29]<@BC_Programming> whew
[00:29]<@BC_Programming> well got that wallpaper finished to my satisfaction anyway
[00:37]<@BC_Programming> haha all that work on the 3d thing and you can barely see it
[00:42]<Tux2> lol!
[00:42]<Tux2> Still looks good though. :)
[00:42]<@BC_Programming> yeah I used the same font/layer styles on the text for each element as their respective wallpapers :D
[00:49]<Tux2> Right now I'm coding all the stuff needed for the map scaling...
[00:51]<Tux2> Hopefully it all works out the way I want it to....
[00:51]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[00:52]<Tux2> I've got like a huge amount of new code just to support all the options for the new option...
[00:53]<Tux2> I also updated some of the other code to allow for more options, so yeah, lots of new, untested code...
[00:53]<@BC_Programming> I hate that
[00:53]<@BC_Programming> well except when it all works
[01:05]<Tux2> lol...
[01:05]<Tux2> Well, it's all in, now to test...
[01:05]<Tux2> This should be really fun.... ;)
[01:06]<Tux2> I wonder what kind of bugs I've introduced into it...
[01:06]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[01:15]<Tux2> Well, so far just a few things I forgot to add, so nothing major yet...
[01:22]<Tux2> WOW!!!!! IT WORKED!!!!! sorry ChanbotV
[01:26]<@BC_Programming> haha nice
[01:26]<Tux2> Yeah, now to test the other part of the plugin...
[01:26]<Tux2> I was like "WOW!!! The map is actually zoomed in!"
[01:27]<@BC_Programming> I thought the map we already had was the zoomed in version, heh
[01:28]<Tux2> lol, no, it's medium zoom...
[01:28]<@BC_Programming> oh, there are three levels?
[01:28]<@BC_Programming> I thought there were only two
[01:29]<@BC_Programming> wonder how... and WHEN Mojang are finally going to complete the implementation :P
[01:30]<Tux2> there are 5 zoom levels
[01:30]<Tux2> I don't know... but I just did. ;)
[01:30]<Tux2> ugh, having trouble charging with items...
[01:32]<Tux2> lol! I forgot to rename a variable when I did my huge copy/paste...
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[01:34]<Tux2> Yikes! I have a bug! It's taking 4 items instead of just 3!!!!
[01:35]<@BC_Programming> oops
[01:35]<Tux2> lol, it works properly if the items are separated though... hmm....
[01:36]<Tux2> lol, I figured it out...
[01:36]<Tux2> should be fixed now...
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[01:46]<Tux2> YES! I worked out all the bugs. ;)
[01:46]<@BC_Programming> nice
[01:46]<Tux2> now to see if it works on 1185...
[01:48]<Tux2> Yup. :) I'm happy. :D
[01:49]<@BC_Programming> cool
[01:49]<@BC_Programming> I sort of abandoned BCPixArt, lol
[01:49]<Tux2> lol...
[01:50]<@BC_Programming> I tried to use it on my 173 server when we were making pixel art so I could get a good idea what blocks to use for what colours
[01:50]<@BC_Programming> it's colour selection leaves much to be desired
[01:50]<@BC_Programming> ... which was probably why I was in the process of adding a real Octree quantizer, then I got distracted
[01:51]<@BC_Programming> blech... bloody tea bags keep breaking on me >:(
[01:54]<@BC_Programming> Oh yeah... the animation for the enchantment table is bloody epic
[01:55]<Tux2> Nice!
[01:55]<@BC_Programming> I wasn't expecting an animation at all
[01:55]<@BC_Programming> but the book on top of it opens and closes when you move close and away
[02:02]<@BC_Programming> new thunderclap sound too I think
[02:10]<Tux2> :D
[02:10]<Tux2> BC_Programming: http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/fun-mech-mapclone-v0-5-clone-any-in-game-map-1185-1240.19340/
[02:11]<Tux2> That picture shows the closest zoom level.
[02:13]<@BC_Programming> coool
[02:13]<@BC_Programming> I think I know what the "epic" thing Notch and Jens are adding is
[02:13]<@BC_Programming> a new realm...
[02:14]<Tux2> yeah
[02:14]<Tux2> Now to get MapClone on bukkitdev...
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[02:35]<Tux2> There BC_Programming! All my plugins are now on bukkitdev! http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/mapclone/
[02:35]<@BC_Programming> cool
[02:36]<Tux2> Yup. I'm liking this new Map API stuff... I have a feeling that I'm going to be integrating more of the features in it.
[02:39]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/images/minecraft/bluestuff.png
[02:39]<@BC_Programming> there was a silverfish spawner protecting whatever the heck that is
[02:39]<Tux2> woah...
[02:40]<@BC_Programming> yeah I'm guessing it's going to be some sort of portal or something
[02:46]<Tux2> Well, now that I have all my plugins updated, I'm going to bed...
[02:46]<@BC_Programming> heh ok
[02:46]<@BC_Programming> I will continue my 1.9 'research'
[02:46]<Tux2> ;) Please do. let me know if any of the in game mechanics will conflict with any of the plugins I've made
[02:47]<@BC_Programming> doesn't look like it but I'll keep that in mind now
[02:48]<Tux2> Thanks. :)
[02:49]<Tux2> Ugh, I need logos for Claygen and MapClone...
[02:49]<Tux2> Tomorrow...
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[06:55]<@BC_Programming> greetings
[06:55]<+Mulreay> good day sir
[06:55]<@BC_Programming> heh sorry for the 43 minute long minecraft video, lol
[06:56]<+Mulreay> heh, I've just seen it on youtube, not watched it yet... had my head stuck in Deus Ex too much
[06:56]<@BC_Programming> ahh
[06:57]<@BC_Programming> ok either my site is getting slammed again or my webhost is slow as molasses
[06:57]<@BC_Programming> the latter is far more likely
[06:57]<+Mulreay> Yeah, seems a little slow
[06:59]<@BC_Programming> oh it's just spammers trying to hack the forum or something
[06:59]<@BC_Programming> if perusing the raw access logs is any indication
[06:59]<+Mulreay> well that's ok then :p
[07:01]<@BC_Programming> oooh
[07:01]<@BC_Programming> I know what it is
[07:01]<@BC_Programming> gimme a few secs and we'll see if I was right :P
[07:04]<@BC_Programming> hmm well now I broke firefox
[07:04]<@BC_Programming> not quite the effect I was after
[07:04]<+Mulreay> lol
[07:06]<@BC_Programming> hmm it's process refuses to terminate
[07:07]<@BC_Programming> well it still takes a million years to load the page in chrome
[07:07]<@BC_Programming> but the blog and main page load fine
[07:07]<@BC_Programming> and oh boy is the main page broken in chrome
[07:08]<+Mulreay> Main page is quite slow for me
[07:08]<+Mulreay> blog page that is
[07:08]<@BC_Programming> the main page isn't even loading for me anymore
[07:09]<@BC_Programming> this is starting to piss me off
[07:09]<+Mulreay> 16 secs to load the blog and it's now broken on FF for me
[07:09]<@BC_Programming> less than a second for me
[07:10]<@BC_Programming> works fine (the blog does)
[07:10]<@BC_Programming> the main landing page is completely busted and crashes all browsers I've tried
[07:11]<+Mulreay> I think that's the page I mean... the page that has baseblock stuff on that you added on the 3rd Oct... loads but the page is all messed up
[07:11]<@BC_Programming> yep that one
[07:11]<@BC_Programming> it's messed up in chrome for me
[07:11]<@BC_Programming> but that might have been the last change I made, since I tried to refresh and FF crashed
[07:11]<@BC_Programming> and only just now FINALLY terminated after I pressed end process like a million times
[07:12]<+Mulreay> odd happenings are afoot
[07:12]<@BC_Programming> so I started firefox again
[07:12]<@BC_Programming> it's updating
[07:13]<@BC_Programming> then it stopped responding
[07:13]<@BC_Programming> lol
[07:13]<@BC_Programming> at least the main page is fixed
[07:13]<@BC_Programming> still takes hella-long to load though
[07:14]<@BC_Programming> wtf is going on
[07:14]<@BC_Programming> it shouldn't take 10 bloody seconds to load the main page
[07:15]<+Mulreay> yeah, annoyingly slow
[07:17]<@BC_Programming> hmm well it's a little bit faster now
[07:18]<@BC_Programming> by which I mean maybe 9.5 seconds
[07:18]<+Mulreay> It's atleast going in the right direction
[07:20]<+Mulreay> For everyone, this contains very strong language so if your offended by such things then don't look at it.. http://imagebin.org/177824
[07:20]<@BC_Programming> I don't heh
[07:21]<+Mulreay> It was priarily for you
[07:21]<+Mulreay> primarily*
[07:21]<@BC_Programming> OK THIS IS STARTING THE REALLY FECKING PISS ME OFF and shut up chanbot you dismissive douche
[07:22]<@BC_Programming> that's right
[07:22]<+Mulreay> lol
[07:22]<@BC_Programming> you keep quiet
[07:22]<@BC_Programming> I was talking to chanbot t here
[07:22]<+Mulreay> it worked
[07:24]<@BC_Programming> geez my main site was speedier when I was being slammed by eqD visitors
[07:25]<@BC_Programming> ahh never mind clearly I am imagining everything, cpanel says "your site had no issues in the past 24 hours" carry on everybody
[07:25]<@BC_Programming> clearly I was merely caught in a quantum distortion field that made it seem to take longer
[07:25]<+Mulreay> lol
[07:28]<@BC_Programming> hmm seems faster. Could just be that I was picking my nose at the time which made time go faster. proven fact
[07:29]<+Mulreay> heh
[07:32]<+Mulreay> Subscriptions are working on my new forum.... sweeeet
[07:32]<+Mulreay> 'paid subscriptions' that is
[07:32]<@BC_Programming> ugh... BCSearch still links to GlitchPC.com
[07:33]<+Mulreay> yuck
[07:33]<@BC_Programming> but it doesn't work because that link is dead
[07:33]<+Mulreay> yeah
[07:33]<@BC_Programming> can't fix it though because I can't seem to actually work with the code, it just breaks when I try to run or compile it
[07:33]<@BC_Programming> so mehy
[07:40]<@BC_Programming> no surprise every single article from my codeproject newsletter is Steve Jobs related
[07:41]<@BC_Programming> on an unrelated nite
[07:41]<@BC_Programming> note
[07:41]<@BC_Programming> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RAmNCIVTKY&list=LLr83sZS-oUNJafVBBemaTwg&feature=player_detailpage
[07:45]<+Mulreay> heh, prity good
[07:46]<@BC_Programming> for some reason I find it hilarious
[07:46]<@BC_Programming> I am so putting it on my mp3 player
[07:46]<@BC_Programming> then at work in the morning somebody will be like "OH I KNOW THIS SONG"
[07:46]<@BC_Programming> then be like "wait a minute wtf"
[07:50]<@BC_Programming> speaking of people saying "hey wait a minute"... if you hadn't seen that minecraft video, then who liked it
[07:51]<@BC_Programming> somebody else being the obvious answer to that question
[07:51]<+Mulreay> mmm no idea, cameron may be
[07:52]<@BC_Programming> my minecraft dupe exploit video has the most views
[07:52]<@BC_Programming> followed by the Rainbow Dash AMV
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[08:02]<@BC_Programming> hey you guys remember how I was ranting about how Richard Stallman was a douche
[08:02]<@BC_Programming> well
[08:02]<@BC_Programming> here's proof
[08:02]<@BC_Programming> http://stallman.org/archives/2011-jul-oct.html#06_October_2011_(Steve_Jobs
[08:02]<@BC_Programming> the "06 October 2011" entry
[08:04]<@jacky> why do I remember that name? ... Stallman ?
[08:04]<@BC_Programming> he's the guy who does absolutely nothing but keeps whining about software "freedom"
[08:04]<@jacky> ok
[08:04]<@BC_Programming> FSF and all that
[08:04]<@jacky> looking for it now...
[08:05]<@jacky> FSF stands for..?
[08:05]<@BC_Programming> Free software foundation
[08:05]<@jacky> free software foundation?
[08:05]<@jacky> is it his?
[08:05]<@BC_Programming> he founded it yes
[08:05]<@jacky> or is it ok?
[08:05]<@jacky> can't remember...
[08:05]<@BC_Programming> the FSF is ironically the biggest thing holding Free and Open Source software back, if you ask me
[08:06]<@jacky> oh?
[08:06]<@jacky> negative impressions?
[08:06]<@BC_Programming> well yes, there is that
[08:06]<@BC_Programming> but I mean, he doesn't actually WRITE free software, or even really do anything to help it, he just tells everybody "it's not 'free enough'
[08:06]<@BC_Programming> for example
[08:06]<@BC_Programming> firefox isn't free enough
[08:06]<@BC_Programming> because they had the AUDACITY to actually trademark the logo
[08:07]<@jacky> ehe
[08:07]<@BC_Programming> I'm not even making that up
[08:07]<@BC_Programming> he actually wrote a gigantic rant about it
[08:07]<@BC_Programming> like it was the worst thing to ever happen in the universe or something
[08:07]<@jacky> but... step outside and think about it... the world needs a few... (just a few) ... people like him. When they present their ideas, it keeps the rest of us awake and paying attention.
[08:07]<@jacky> seriously
[08:08]<@BC_Programming> it certainly gives us soemthing to talk about
[08:08]<@jacky> I try to remind myself about that angle, with some of the things that I care about, in the news....
[08:08]<@jacky> In other words, we need the dumb asses, so as to help us keep our perspective
[08:08]<@jacky> heheeheh
[08:08]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[08:08]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[08:31]<+Mulreay> 06 October 2011 (UK Body Scanners)
[08:31]<+Mulreay> The UK is forcing people to go through body scanners at train stations.
[08:31]<+Mulreay> That is utter bullshite
[08:31]<+Mulreay> Just thought I would add
[08:32]<@BC_Programming> from what I read
[08:32]<@BC_Programming> your train system is a clusterfeck
[08:32]<@BC_Programming> I mean like having all these rules for finding "legal" routes and crap
[08:32]<+Mulreay> Never heard of that
[08:33]<@BC_Programming> http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/t/25060.aspx
[08:35]<+Mulreay> mmm ok, or you just go online/phone/use a terminal at the station and state I'm going from point A to point B.. can I have a ticket please
[08:36]<+Mulreay> Those things mean jack to anyone using the rail system... we don't have to work anything out it's all done for you
[08:37]<+Mulreay> You get a ticket and it has any changes on it... not sure why that is even getting mentioned
[08:37]<@BC_Programming> oh ok
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[08:40]<+Mulreay> It may be that, that is the way the one of the networks has to work out your journey but it certainly has no effect on the consumer
[08:41]<+Mulreay> On your ticket it would just say 'change at this station for' and so
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[08:41]<+Mulreay> I use the rail a lot to get from Manchester to London and to get to football matches in Bury and never any problems
[08:43]<@BC_Programming> wonder where fennec is
[08:46]<+Mulreay> Where did that come from? Think it's Africa
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[08:57]<+Mulreay> cool, dragons in minecraft
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[08:59]<@BC_Programming> yeah saw that, awesome
[08:59]<@BC_Programming> downloaded the prelease 3 of 1.9; freaking epic
[09:00]<@BC_Programming> I enchanted a bunch of my stuff. No idea what it does but they look cool now
[09:00]<@BC_Programming> made potions and all that
[09:00]<+Mulreay> cool, watched the yogscast on them, they look awesome
[09:01]<@BC_Programming> oh not seen that one yet
[09:01]<@BC_Programming> I played it like seconds after jeb posted the link :P
[09:02]<@BC_Programming> Oh I think I figured out why firefox is suddenly unstable
[09:02]<@BC_Programming> probably the stability update it just installed
[09:02]<@BC_Programming> how is that for irony
[09:02]<+Mulreay> heh
[09:06]<+Mulreay> Just had to go back through saves on Deus Ex to get before a point I made a fatal error... lost about 3hrs of gameplay
[09:08]<+Mulreay> Just an FYI and no spoiler intended, when you get offered the upgraded trip DONT take it
[09:09]<+Mulreay> chip*
[09:09]<@BC_Programming> I don't intend to play the game tbh
[09:09]<+Mulreay> really? it's awesome
[09:09]<@BC_Programming> I've seen it
[09:10]<+Mulreay> Seen and played are two different kettle of fish
[09:14]<@BC_Programming> firefox has been hung for like 40 minutes now
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[09:14]<@BC_Programming> despite me pressing "End Process" in task manager, the "this program is not responding" thing, Process Explorer, and running taskkill
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> what hte bloody FECKis wrong with this shite
[09:15]<+Mulreay> It's OK Jacky seems to be having as much fun with his connection
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> this is starting to grate on me, sertiously. when I want to kill a task, I want the <censored> task to go away, I don't want it to sit there
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> oh and then when you click on it, windows taunts you
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> "this program is not responding, do you want to end the process"
[09:15]<+Mulreay> lol, I HATE that
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> yes of course I do that's why I said to end the bloody process 10 fecking times already
[09:16]<@BC_Programming> and it sits there for 40 FECKING MINUTES and it's still there and refuses to bloody close
[09:16]<@BC_Programming> and I'm going to get to the bottom of it right fecking now because programs doing this have started to piss me off
[09:16]<+Mulreay> Have you tried the process tree? Never makes much difference but you never know
[09:17]<@BC_Programming> I'm using PROCESS EXPLORER. That is pretty much as powerful as it gets... if process explorer can't kill it, something is bloody wrong, basically
[09:17]<@BC_Programming> sorry didn't mean to capitalize that
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[09:17]<+Mulreay> heh, I did wonder why you were shouting at me... I was like 'OK sorry for suggesting that'
[09:18]<@BC_Programming> it's a known issue apparently, though
[09:18]<@BC_Programming> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproperf/thread/598fe2b4-844d-412d-b195-5fa53dc62661/
[09:18]<Tux3> lol...
[09:18]<@BC_Programming> seems to be a driver thing
[09:18]<Tux3> another reason I use linux
[09:19]<@BC_Programming> too bad that happens with about half the bloody programs I use on Mint 10
[09:19]<@BC_Programming> I end up dragging them to another screen
[09:19]<@BC_Programming> I swear my second desktop has like 10 broken minecraft windows on it
[09:19]<@BC_Programming> somehow their window part got dissassociated from their process or something
[09:19]<@BC_Programming> so I just moved them out of the way and forgot about them
[09:20]<Tux3> lol...
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> and by "half the programs I use" on linux, I mean minecraft, because it's pretty much minecraft and firefox there
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> I have a lot more installed but only for the sake of filling up the mint menu I guess
[09:20]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: LinMint 10 is old
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> sonicrules1234 Oh really? is that so?
[09:20]<sonicrules1234> Yes 11 is out
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> well if you could tell me how to upgrade to Mint 11 without reformatting the machine that would be just bloody peachy
[09:21]<@BC_Programming> I already know mint 11 is out
[09:21]<+Mulreay> I need to make a Linux disk actually, tried getting my spare laptop to boot from the USB with the linux ISO on but was having nothing of it
[09:21]<Tux3> lol, I'm still running Mandriva Spring 2010
[09:21]<@BC_Programming> and I'm not about to just redirect aptitude to the new repo
[09:21]<Tux3> I have mandriva 2011 on another hard drive it's just not set up the way I want it to be...
[09:21]<sonicrules1234> I'm pretty sure there is a way to upgrade it without reformatting
[09:21]<@BC_Programming> and honestly the machine works fine- it's probably an issue with the JRE or something, or possibly beryl/emerald that causes MC to get all funky
[09:22]<sonicrules1234> I just don't remember what it is xD
[09:22]<sonicrules1234> Also
[09:22]<@BC_Programming> sonicrules1234 I'm pretty sure hours of googling ought to have revealed that to me
[09:22]<sonicrules1234> I have the hiccups :(
[09:22]<@BC_Programming> pretty much the only way to "update" to Mint 11 when running Mint 10 is to redirect aptitude to point to the Mint 11 repos
[09:22]<sonicrules1234> :o
[09:22]<Tux3> sonicrules1234, there always is, it's just better to do clean installs
[09:23]<@BC_Programming> which is altogether a bad idea and would likely end up in me just reformatting and reinstalling anyway
[09:24]<Tux3> Oh, BC_Programming, my MapClone project got approved on BukkitDev!
[09:24]<@BC_Programming> and t hen hooray I get to redo all my tweaks that got it all the way I wanted, obviously some people get their jollies out of repeatedly editing the same config files every install or more likely finding out where some smartass developer moved the file you need to edit to so you can make the changesm only to find they also changed the format, revoked some functionality "oh hey, heres the new
[09:24]<@BC_Programming> GDM, no you can't customize it go away"
[09:25]<@BC_Programming> "you want CUSTOM WALLPAPER on your locked computer screen?" YouDontNeedThat(tm)
[09:26]<Tux3> lol...
[09:29]<Tux3> What I don't like about bukkitdev is that every file you upload has to be "approved" which delays releases...
[09:29]<Tux3> No more "quick fixes"
[09:30]<@BC_Programming> hmm I wonder if I could get away with just logging out
[09:30]<@BC_Programming> brb
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[09:43]<BC_Programmer> HEY guess what I think I know the cause
[09:43]<BC_Programmer> Windows update
[09:43]<Tux3> Give me a break, I've been a developer for over 3 months now, can't I just upload a file?????
[09:44]<Tux3> lol, nice BC_Programmer!
[09:44]<BC_Programmer> giant pile of shite that thing is for all it's worth
[09:44]<BC_Programmer> I don't recall a single good thing ever coming from it, tbh
[09:45]<BC_Programmer> although I'm giving it another chance since I set it to not automatically install last time when it did and pissed me off
[09:45]<BC_Programmer> so it has like 2 months of updates to do
[09:46]<BC_Programmer> in the meantime I can do feck-all
[09:50]<Tux3> Don't you just love windows?
[09:51]<Tux3> Oh, and someone already asked if I could add a spout gui about an hour ago...
[09:51]<+Mulreay> I find it as a useful test on my charachter... I can either slate as most do or work at the problem, discover a solution and be better for it..
[09:51]<Tux3> to MonsterBox that is...
[09:52]<+Mulreay> Plus it makes a nice noise when it starts... like I'm taking a trip
[09:55]<+Mulreay> Windows is not a 'bad thing' Linux is not a 'bad thing and OSX is not a 'bad thing'. Each have ther merits and each have there down falls. Live and let live I say.
[09:57]<Tux3> lol, yup
[09:57]<Tux3> We all use what we use because it works for us
[09:57]<+Mulreay> exactly
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[10:32]<Tux3> lol, the new version of bukkit introduced an infinite recursion loop into one of my functions in claygen...
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[11:24]<curmet> hello ever'body !!! what r u doing now?
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[11:28]<Serpent> typing an answer.
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[12:36]<+Mulreay> In out, in out craig you are yet to shake it all about
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[12:58]<+Mulreay> Craig and Tux2 are you live?
[12:59]<Craig> I am, just testing out some windows 7 tweaks... :P
[12:59]<Craig> and I added more ram... :P
[12:59]<+Mulreay> Cool, I need to ask you something
[12:59]<+Mulreay> Can I PM you?
[13:00]<Craig> sure
[13:00]<Craig> :)
[13:27]<Tux2> Mulreay: I'm back, had to go to the post office...
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[13:56]<+Mulreay> Pray to god he hears me, pray to god he hears me... my new thought everyday
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[13:56]<+Mulreay> Hey camerongray
[13:58]<+camerongray> howdt
[13:58]<+camerongray> New case :D
[14:00]<+Mulreay> I hope that is a new PC case and not some strange youth weirdo coment
[14:01]<+camerongray> lol - Yeh
[14:01]<+camerongray> PC case
[14:02]<+Mulreay> Thought you were going all 'gangsta' on me
[14:03]<+Mulreay> Anyway need to go, later people
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[14:29]<Tux2> BC_programming: what would you think if I gave you guys the ability to change what type of mob a mob spawner spawns? (For a hefty price of course)
[14:29]<@BC_programming> would be neat
[14:29]<@BC_programming> can we pick up spawners with it?
[14:29]<@BC_programming> I can't remember
[14:29]<Tux2> Yeah, of couse
[14:29]<@BC_programming> ahh
[14:30]<@BC_programming> that would be cool for building mob farms and grinders and stuff
[14:30]<Tux2> :)
[14:30]<Tux2> I was thinking of setting the price to change the type of mob it spawns to something around $10,000 in game money
[14:31]<@BC_programming> pricey :P
[14:31]<Tux2> lol... yeah...
[14:32]<Tux2> I don't want people going into a dungeon and going "oooh... a cave spider spawner, not any more... it's a cow spawner"
[14:33]<Tux2> basically changing the spawn type would be equivalent to 5.7 diamonds
[14:34]<@BC_programming> yeah
[14:34]<@BC_programming> make it inefficient to just change the type of spawners to make it easier :P
[14:34]<Tux2> Exactly. What do you think of the price though, is it set right? Or do you have another reccomendation?
[14:35]<@BC_programming> sounds good
[14:35]<@BC_programming> make it configurable though
[14:35]<Tux2> Of course, it already is... I was talking about our server...
[14:35]<@BC_programming> oh ok
[14:35]<@BC_programming> sounds fine :P
[14:36]<@BC_programming> that should keep people from putting pig spawners all over the place like before
[14:36]<@BC_programming> that was really annoying
[14:36]<Tux2> lol... I actually placed a pig spawner because of the lack of animals in the old world...
[14:36]<Tux2> People had too many wolves!
[14:36]<@BC_programming> camerongray had too many wolves
[14:37]<+camerongray> Y EH
[14:37]<Tux2> lol...
[14:37]<+camerongray> Not feeding them anymore - they were a pain
[14:37]<@BC_programming> I think Wolves are bloody stupid. They get in the way, they kill themselves, they constantly drain your food source, etc
[14:37]<Tux2> I like how wolves are much harder to find now...
[14:38]<@BC_programming> I had a few on single player but it's just a matter of time before they become more trouble than they were worth
[14:50]<Tux2> Okay, I'm ready for a huge, really awful gui here....
[14:50]<@BC_programming> haha
[14:55]<@BC_programming> yay speed issues for bc-programming.com are gone
[14:57]<Tux2> How did you accomplish that?
[14:58]<@BC_programming> nothing, it was apparently server-side...
[14:58]<@BC_programming> I sort of presumed that, since they appeared out of nowhere, not from a change I made
[15:01]<Tux2> lol...
[15:02]<Tux2> I completely borked the screen... There are no buttons visible...
[15:07]<@BC_programming> gedit does NOT like files with really really long lines
[15:07]<Tux2> lol!
[15:07]<@BC_programming> works in emacs though
[15:08]<@BC_programming> just a js script from somebody having an issue on CH...
[15:18]<@BC_programming> hmm I need to rewrite BCSearch in C#
[15:19]<@BC_programming> I say need mostly because I can't actually work on the project anymore, VB6 refuses the run it and just presents vague errors, haha
[15:19]<Tux2> lol...
[15:19]<Tux2> Okay, well, I got one button to show up, I guess that's progress....
[15:20]<@BC_programming> hehheh
[15:20]<@BC_programming> via SpoutCraft?
[15:20]<@BC_programming> or Spout I should say
[15:28]<Tux2> lol, yeah
[15:28]<Tux2> Oh, I got all the buttons to show up, and the event to process, I just need it to close the window now!
[15:32]<@BC_programming> nice
[15:34]<Tux2> lol, wow, once I ironed out those few bugs it's working like it should now!
[15:34]<@BC_programming> good job :)
[15:35]<Tux2> Now to get the gui to open up when you right click the block with a gold sword. :D
[15:44]<@BC_programming> heh found this yesterday in that MLP music torrent
[15:44]<@BC_programming> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RAmNCIVTKY&feature=player_detailpage&list=LLr83sZS-oUNJafVBBemaTwg
[15:44]<@BC_programming> win
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[15:49]<Tux2> lol BC_programming!
[15:49]<@BC_programming> yeah I totally added that to my mp3 PLAYER
[15:49]<@BC_programming> woops
[15:49]<@BC_programming> people will be like "Oh I know this.... hey wait wtf"
[15:53]<Tux2> ha ha!
[15:58]<Tux2> Oh wow! It works wonderfully!
[15:59]<@BC_programming> coolness
[16:10]<Tux2> Right click with gold sword: Poof! Opens the gui if you have permission and the spout client...
[16:10]<@BC_programming> cool
[16:12]<Tux2> Yeah, now to change some IDs around...
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[16:46]<Tux2> BC_programming: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35110620/2011-10-07_16.09.41.png
[16:47]<@BC_programming> very nice
[16:47]<@BC_programming> another feature you could add
[16:47]<@BC_programming> is different prices for different mobs...
[16:48]<Tux2> Yeah, working on that...
[16:48]<Tux2> Displaying the prices right next to the name of the mob would be cool too. ;)
[16:49]<@BC_programming> yeah was just going to say that
[16:49]<Tux2> lol!
[16:50]<Tux2> Should I wait and put the variable prices per mob in the next version, or should I just forge ahead and try to stick them in this version?
[16:51]<@BC_programming> hmm
[16:51]<@BC_programming> don't know
[16:52]<@BC_programming> for all you know you could very well have added the feature by the time somebody approves the submission on bukkitdev... lol
[16:52]<Tux2> lol!
[16:52]<Tux2> Very true, very true....
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[17:21]<cameron_touchpad> ssh - Murray's here
[17:22]<cameron_touchpad> Go and die autocorrect!
[17:22]<cameron_touchpad> mulreay*
[17:22]<cameron_touchpad> :-P
[17:22]<+Mulreay> heh, I'm the only family in the world with 'Mulreay' I guess auto anything will not work
[17:22]<cameron_touchpad> And there is no way to turn it off :'(
[17:23]<Tux2> lol....
[17:23]<@BC_programming> lol
[17:23]<@BC_programming> Murray
[17:23]<Tux2> Oh, I added a spout enabled gui to MonsterBox. :)
[17:23]<Tux2> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35110620/2011-10-07_16.09.41.png
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[17:36]<+Mulreay> If I could just get onlive to use Minecraft
[17:36]<@BC_programming> haha yeah I was thinking that before
[17:37]<+Mulreay> would be cool
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[18:32]<+Mulreay> Nice come back BC_programming
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[19:13]<+Mulreay> Adobe is trying it's hardest to update stuff like CS5.... Mwah ha aha
[19:13]<+Mulreay> You have no chance
[19:13]<@BC_programming> heh
[19:16]<+Mulreay> BC_programming fancy watching me on this boss fight? I will die lots..
[19:18]<@BC_programming> no busy
[19:18]<+Mulreay> ok
[19:29]<Tux2> lol...
[19:30]<Tux2> I just uploaded images for all of my mods... so now they "stick" out...
[19:30]<@BC_programming> cool
[19:30]<Tux2> http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/monsterbox/images/1-logo/
[19:31]<@BC_programming> I'm making rarity's mark in 3ds now, heh
[19:31]<Tux2> lol...
[19:31]<@BC_programming> already done AJs, lol
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[19:43]<mib_4szzw1> Hi, I had a few questions about dual booting windows 7 and os x Lion on my laptop
[19:43]<mib_4szzw1> does anyone have experience/know something about this?
[19:44]<@BC_programming> I don't
[19:45]<@BC_programming> but I have/do dual-boot windows with Linux
[19:45]<mib_4szzw1> k, that might help answer
[19:45]<mib_4szzw1> I have that too, through wubi
[19:45]<mib_4szzw1> but I was wondering about paritioning my hard drive
[19:45]<mib_4szzw1> and putting each OS on a seperate partition with a single partition for saving files from both OS
[19:46]<mib_4szzw1> so basically 3 partitions
[19:46]<@BC_programming> Should work as long as the file system you use on the data partition is understood by both operating systems
[19:47]<mib_4szzw1> Ok sweet, I'll read up on that then. Thanks so much!
[19:47]<+Mulreay> You can only partition linux dual boot to what is available... as in if you have 20gb available it will only partition 3gb example.
[19:47]<@BC_programming> Mulreay: what?
[19:48]<+Mulreay> Dual boot
[19:48]<mib_4szzw1> oh you mean the system itself?
[19:48]<@BC_programming> why would having 20GB available mean it makes a 3gb partition...
[19:48]<+Mulreay> OK I'm out, BC_programming will sort you out
[19:49]<mib_4szzw1> I think he means the system itself. Which would be ideal, I dont want my OS and files to be on the same partition
[19:49]<mib_4szzw1> thanks Mulreay
[19:49]<@BC_programming> 1 partition for windows, 1 partition for Lion, and one for data
[19:49]<mib_4szzw1> yeah
[19:49]<@BC_programming> you wouldn't be able to install Windows and OSX to the same partition anyway I wouldn't think
[19:49]<mib_4szzw1> did you partition your drives for your win/linux dual?
[19:49]<@BC_programming> yes
[19:50]<mib_4szzw1> how much did you give the win partition?
[19:50]<@BC_programming> I'd have to check, it's my laptop, gimme a sec :P
[19:50]<Tux2> mib_4szzw1: does your computer have the right hardware for lion?
[19:51]<@BC_programming> 170GB out of 250GB... but in retrospect I ought to have given Linux Mint more, since I hardly boot win7 on it
[19:51]<mib_4szzw1> not too sure, its pretty new
[19:51]<mib_4szzw1> oh ok, so you have your system and files on the same partition
[19:51]<mib_4szzw1> Tux2, i have an inspiron 1545
[19:52]<mib_4szzw1> if lion is a no go, I'm totally fine with Snow Leopard
[19:52]<@BC_programming> oh... you're trying to make a hackintosh
[19:52]<Tux2> mib_4szzw1: this page should tell you which hardware will work with lion: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[19:52]<mib_4szzw1> yeah pretty much
[19:52]<mib_4szzw1> thanks Tux2
[19:52]<Tux2> no problem
[19:53]<mib_4szzw1> ok, so my specific laptop isnt on that list, I think I'll just go with snow leopard since that is on the list
[19:53]<@BC_programming> cool, good luck
[19:54]<Tux2> If it works with snow, It might work with lion...
[19:54]<mib_4szzw1> thanks, I'll see what I can do. Hopefully it wont mean a long night. Thanks so much guys :)
[19:54]<@BC_programming> your welcome :)
[19:55]<@BC_programming> woops
[19:55]<@BC_programming> you're*
[19:55]<Tux2> lol, my first time installing snow leopard into a virtual machine took a whole day...
[19:55]<mib_4szzw1> lol, oh man. Oh, I was wondering, did I stumble on the right irc channel? haha, I typed in 'PC help'
[19:55]<mib_4szzw1> :P
[19:56]<Tux2> lol, yes, you did... we don't get that may visitors in here, but the advice here tops that of other channels...
[19:57]<mib_4szzw1> sweet..haha, I may just stick around here for a while
[19:59]<Tux2> lol, you might learn a thing or two...
[20:57]<Tux2> lol, devil_boy broke 1 of 10 of the silverfish blocks I placed in front of my house...
[20:57]<@BC_programming> heh
[20:58]<Tux2> he got quite the surprise when all the silverfish came out...
[20:59]<Tux2> At least I had an iron sword on me when he broke it...
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[23:21]<Tux2> Oh spout, why do you have to make it so hard for me to make my plugin compatible for people who don't install spout on their server?
[23:22]<Tux2> lol, I switch over to my desktop to see the nightmare moon wallpaper is up