Session Start: Tue Feb 01 00:00:00 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[09:02]<+camerongray> hi jacky
[09:03]<@jacky> camerongray: Hello
[09:03]<+Mulreay> hey camerongray and jacky
[09:04]<@jacky> Mulreay: Hello
[09:07]<+pottsi> yah jacky
[09:07]<+pottsi> moment
[09:07]<+pottsi> Mulreay you have a bakup
[09:07]<+Mulreay> a what now?
[09:07]<+pottsi> backup* in your /home/ flolder
[09:07]<+pottsi> folder* :|
[09:07]<+Mulreay> ahh cool thx
[09:07]<@jacky> type much?
[09:07]<@jacky> heheheeh
[09:07]<@BC_Programming> ok did I miss something here
[09:08]<@jacky> BC_Programming: sigh... you people that do mono-channel irc.... tsk, tsk
[09:08]<@jacky> :)
[09:08]<@BC_Programming> heh
[09:08]<@BC_Programming> yeah I sort of figured it was either in another chan or a PM or something
[09:09]<@jacky> sometimes, it is just the voices in our heads
[09:09]<@jacky> you're just jealous! the voices don't talk to you, like they talk to ME !!
[09:09]<+Mulreay> I have them, they tell me to eat cheese
[09:10]<@BC_Programming> oh I get those sometimes too
[09:10]<@jacky> cheese?
[09:10]<@jacky> or voices?
[09:10]<@jacky> heh
[09:10]<+Mulreay> Just cheese
[09:10]<@jacky> that was for BC
[09:10]<@jacky> sometimes he gets cheesed, you know
[09:10]<+Mulreay> The voices told me to answer for him :p
[09:10]<@jacky> oh!!!
[09:10]<@jacky> I should have thought of that
[09:10]<@jacky> so sorry
[09:10]<@jacky> heheheehe
[09:10]<+Mulreay> heh
[09:11]<@BC_Programming> I have voices
[09:11]<@BC_Programming> they say "play minecraft"
[09:11]<@BC_Programming> but I resist
[09:11]<+Mulreay> yeah right
[09:11]<@jacky> you play cheesecraft instead?
[09:11]<+Mulreay> lol
[09:11]<@BC_Programming> also, I find it strange that my gravity block actually conforms to einstein's gravitational theory rather then newtons
[09:11]<+Mulreay> heh
[09:11]<+Mulreay> Now that's some nifty programming
[09:12]<@BC_Programming> mostly surprised because I used basic newtonian formula... but still, if the balls get into a stable elliptical orbit around the block their perihelion rotates around the block
[09:12]<@BC_Programming> of course I had to sit there waiting for about 15 minutes unable to do a damned thing as the ball rotated just out of reach of the paddle
[09:13]<+Mulreay> lol
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> the game taunted me
[09:16]<@BC_Programming> the balls orbit brought it to within a pixel of the paddle
[09:16]<@BC_Programming> then I noticed some blocks were invisible... sighed loudly and resigned myself to trying to figure out why
[09:18]<+Mulreay> haha I've just found a 'mini-nuke' in New Vegas... mmm what to test it on. Also now have the Archimedes weapon to play with
[09:19]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: you need to have a fat man or experimental MIRV to fire the mini-nuke
[09:19]<+Mulreay> ahhh ok
[09:19]<@BC_Programming> yeah it's the ammo
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> good times, I recall I once used console cheats to spawn like 200 mole rats in fallout 3, then I shot a nuke into the center
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> bodies everywhere! wooo
[09:20]<+Mulreay> heh
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> then I decided to try it on all sorts of enemies
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> 100 super mutants
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> 100 raiders
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> oh the fun
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> I of course gave myself 9999 mini nukes- for experimentation purposes, of course
[09:22]<+Mulreay> heh
[09:22]<@BC_Programming> then I guess I got bored... no idea where I am in the game now
[09:22]<@BC_Programming> fallout 3 I mean... new vegas I've played more recently :P
[09:22]<@BC_Programming> and I keep trying to open my pip boy with i instead of tab... curse you minecraft
[09:26]<+camerongray> Oh - hi Mulreay & BC
[09:27]<+camerongray> erm... I just spawned in that hole again
[09:27]<@BC_Programming> lol
[09:29]<@BC_Programming> heh I redid the title music for my game... remixed it to be precise
[09:32]<+camerongray> Is there a way to force a respawn?
[09:32]<@BC_Programming> I don't think so
[09:32]<+camerongray> damn
[09:32]<@BC_Programming> you could try /kill at the chat screen thing
[09:32]<+camerongray> That worked
[09:33]<@BC_Programming> oh cool
[09:33]<@BC_Programming> I was so guessing too
[09:33]<+Mulreay> heh
[09:34]<@BC_Programming> haha this guy isn't very smart
[09:34]<@BC_Programming> http://huntersinsight.com/2010/11/11/minecraft-has-bad-points-too/
[09:38]<@BC_Programming> heh "I can't see at night"
[09:38]<+Mulreay> this guys a tool
[09:38]<@BC_Programming> wow, wonder if he's ever been outside after dark
[09:39]<@BC_Programming> love how he blames his lack of forethought on the game "I run out of wood" well maybe you should have gotten a hell of a lot more...
[09:40]<+Mulreay> yeah his arguments are very leaky at best
[09:40]<+Mulreay> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x22vdZD-PU&feature=feedlik this is prity funny
[09:43]<@BC_Programming> hey look somebody found the wizards in adobe premiere
[09:45]<@BC_Programming> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjcH2UmK1uo not minecraft but still
[09:46]<+Mulreay> looking
[09:50]<@BC_Programming> I have a whole bunch of his stuff on my music playlist with Weird Al, heh
[09:52]<+Mulreay> heh cool song
[09:53]<@BC_Programming> yeah that's one of my favourites by him
[09:53]<@BC_Programming> I've been tempted to make a minecraft video with like zombies outside the door of a house with that song in it, lol
[09:53]<+Mulreay> heh that would be cool
[09:54]<@BC_Programming> use a mod and spawn like 200 zombies jumping all around a little glass house
[09:57]<@BC_Programming> supposedly that song is in left 4 dead 2, at least that's what some of the comments say
[09:57]<+Mulreay> cool
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> I know he made the song at the end of Portal, that was pretty funny
[10:02]<@BC_Programming> but of course it's pretty obvious that game is awesome, I mean even yahtzee of zero punctuation thought it was stellar
[10:02]<@BC_Programming> and he's not the most charitable reviewer, lol
[10:02]<+Mulreay> heh
[10:02]<+Mulreay> not seen that one
[10:03]<@BC_Programming> I think it was part of another review... orange box I think
[10:05]<@BC_Programming> utorrent just exploded in my face
[10:05]<+Mulreay> lol
[10:07]<@BC_Programming> wow that was a struggle killing the process as well
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[10:13]<+Mulreay> how come?
[10:24]<@BC_Programming> no idea
[10:24]<@BC_Programming> I went to "open containing folder" and utorrent just froze dead
[10:24]<@BC_Programming> stopping the process took like 10 tries before it actually died
[10:25]<+camerongray> woot - just found loads of redstone dust
[10:25]<@BC_Programming> yay redstone
[10:26]<@BC_Programming> I had to find that on the server last time when I got lost
[10:26]<@BC_Programming> I had four on me the first night but I left them in a chest I built in my little cave there
[10:26]<@BC_Programming> it was only later that I realized I could build a compass to find my way back
[10:26]<@BC_Programming> also, I think the "new" minimap mod has fixed my corruption issue
[10:28]<+Mulreay> cool
[10:31]<@BC_Programming> I don't know for sure, not eager to die and see, heh
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[10:31]<@BC_Programming> will have to work on my castle... it so puts craigs to shame, lol
[10:32]<+camerongray> Oh - Is that big one craig's?
[10:32]<@BC_Programming> on the server?
[10:32]<@BC_Programming> yeah he has that one that's like floating pretty much
[10:33]<@BC_Programming> but he has another one a good 600 units ... south, I think
[10:33]<@BC_Programming> there is a lighthouse that I built, we have a little train station there that goes all the way to the castle
[10:39]<+Mulreay> I need to build a new train station but like the one I already have... not looking forward to the amout of work needed
[10:40]<@BC_Programming> you could use mcedit and duplicate the one you have elsewhere
[10:40]<@BC_Programming> you'd have to learn the prog, but it's really quite powerful for editing Minecraft stuff
[10:41]<+Mulreay> Nah I like the challenge of building stuff, plus this time I want all the workings underground and just the platform above ground
[10:42]<@BC_Programming> heh... like in my nether station that I got a schematic for
[10:42]<+Mulreay> I did think of a program that would be AWESOME for minecraft but I'm no programmer as we know, unless it's tcl I suppose
[10:42]<@BC_Programming> oh shoot your idea then
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[10:48]<@jacky> be back later
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[10:48]<sonicrules1234> Aw
[11:21]<+Mulreay> Cool I have a dog 'rex' in new vegas
[11:47]<+Mulreay> OK don't swim with your 'robo-dog'
[11:47]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxznaXsk6Hg&feature=player_embedded#
[11:47]<@BC_Programming> lol
[11:48]<+Mulreay> looking
[11:51]<+Mulreay> That is F'ing awesome
[11:51]<@BC_Programming> "we arbitrarily threaten you"
[11:52]<+Mulreay> Lol,
[12:30]<+Mulreay> Just given Rex a new brain.. never thought I would be saying that in a sentence
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> oh I remember that bit, I think
[12:32]<+Mulreay> And footy is on in 30mins..whoo hoo.. time to stream from a heavily laden American advert channel
[12:32]<+Mulreay> I made him more viscious
[12:32]<@BC_Programming> oops?
[12:32]<+Mulreay> heh
[12:33]<+Mulreay> you know I meant vicious
[12:33]<@BC_Programming> yeah... but isn't that what happens when you don't have a high enough skill?
[12:34]<+Mulreay> No I made him have more attack points
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> oh I see
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> I hate followers in both fallout 3 and new vegas
[12:34]<+Mulreay> This is my first
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> they piss me off because they love to run in front of your bullets
[12:35]<@BC_Programming> or steal your kills
[12:35]<@BC_Programming> and of course even though they walked in front of you as you swung the super sledge, when you kill then you lose karma
[12:41]<+Mulreay> I like the way you can set perameters for the dog though, like sit, stay, aggresive and passive etc
[12:41]<+Mulreay> parameters*
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> pfft... it's no different with other followers
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> and they all piss me off
[12:42]<+Mulreay> Plus he can carry stuff
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> In fallout 3 at one point you get a pet dog named DogMeat
[12:43]<+Mulreay> lol
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> he usually dies pretty quick
[12:43]<+Mulreay> I've watched some fallout 3 videos on youtube, I prefer the look of New Vegas
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> hmm... may make a fallout3 vid
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> ahh I already have one actually
[12:46]<+Mulreay> Ooohh I have £238 in my account, been saving my benefits.. not claimed them in a month and they have just turned up... what to get what to get
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> I just need to convert it wop
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> woop*
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> I also demonstrate the Experimental MIRV
[12:48]<+Mulreay> I do have to pay my broadband bill £43 and my Credit card say £30... so about £165 to play with
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[13:12]<+Mulreay> DAMN no channels are showing the Man U match
[13:14]<+Mulreay> And I have to watch a 30sec advert EVERY time I try a new channel... slightly annoyed at this point
[13:15]<+Mulreay> Bet there making fortunes out of my channel hopping
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[15:00]<+Mulreay> Just bought a new set of headphones.. spent £25 this time rather than £8 for the crap that I'm wearing that has already broken
[15:00]<+Craig> Nice
[15:00]<+Craig> Good choice
[15:00]<+Craig> I recently upgraded to 8GB ram, is that the same?
[15:00]<+Mulreay> Just got to wait for them to arrive now
[15:01]<+Mulreay> Cool, upgrade
[15:01]<+Mulreay> I need some DDR RAM for my dell to upgrade...
[15:01]<@BC_Programming> PAH I already had 8GB
[15:02]<@BC_Programming> I had 8GB before it was cool!
[15:02]<@BC_Programming> heh
[15:02]<+Mulreay> My build will have 16
[15:02]<+Mulreay> Already have the specs
[15:02]<+Mulreay> My Dad is helping me out with the cost
[15:07]<+Mulreay> Did I tell you guys about my 'photoshop' problem?
[15:07]<@BC_Programming> I don't think so
[15:09]<+Mulreay> Heh, I decided to make an image but not sure how I would ever show it without being kicked or shunned from CH... I asked on facebook if anyone was good at photoshop, so atleast I would have the image... and guess what.. Nathan was the one to answer 'yeah I'm good, what do you want'. Wanna see the image?
[15:09]<@BC_Programming> ok
[15:09]<@BC_Programming> what is it?
[15:10]<+Mulreay> one sec
[15:11]<+Mulreay> I got help from somebody on here to get this image
[15:11]<@BC_Programming> ok...
[15:11]<+Mulreay> http://imagebin.org/135654
[15:11]<+Mulreay> I thought it was funny
[15:12]<@BC_Programming> I don't get it
[15:12]<+Mulreay> Yeah me neither now that I look at it again
[15:17]<+Mulreay> My takeaway is late :(
[15:17]<@BC_Programming> DAMN THEM!
[15:17]<@BC_Programming> damn them to the depths of the nether!
[15:18]<+Mulreay> agreed
[15:19]<+Mulreay> The company that you arder online from is called 'Just Eat' but they don't include 'Just Keep Waiting' damn you and your false advertising
[15:19]<+Mulreay> Nearlly an hour now
[15:19]<+Mulreay> nearly*
[15:26]<+Mulreay> It's here
[15:26]<@BC_Programming> whew
[15:26]<@BC_Programming> I was starting to worry
[15:26]<@BC_Programming> lol
[15:26]<+Mulreay> lol
[15:27]<+Mulreay> Gonna watch an episode of Red Dwarf whilst I eat
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Session Start: Tue Feb 01 16:15:08 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [16:15] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[16:15] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[16:20]<+Craig> Well that was weird?
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Session Start: Tue Feb 01 18:50:08 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [18:50] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[18:50] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[18:52]<GlitchPC> anybody home?
[18:52]<@jacky> GlitchPC: Hello
[18:52]<@jacky> long time
[18:52]<@jacky> how's you?
[18:53]<@BC_Programming> o mai
[18:53]<GlitchPC> yes
[18:53]<@BC_Programming> good to see you
[18:53]<GlitchPC> good...and you guys?
[18:53]<GlitchPC> same here, BC
[18:54]<GlitchPC> Just got internet service today and a phone
[18:54]<@BC_Programming> cool
[18:54]<GlitchPC> times is tough lol
[18:54]<GlitchPC> but...
[18:54]<GlitchPC> I'm back
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[18:55]<Craig> hmmmm Strange
[18:55]<GlitchPC> hello Craig
[18:55]<Craig> Hey Glitch and Jacky
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[18:55]<@jacky> Craig: Hello
[18:55]<@BC_Programming> GlitchPC:awesome, good to hear :D
[18:55]<GlitchPC> I tried going to glitchpc.net, but it seems the server is having issues
[18:55]<+Craig> Where is your server?
[18:56]<GlitchPC> No clue...it's all Calum now
[18:56]<+Craig> ahh
[18:56]<GlitchPC> unless it was a secret
[18:56]<@BC_Programming> loads the apache test page for me
[18:56]<@jacky> me too
[18:56]<GlitchPC> in that case...I just let the cat outta the bag
[18:56]<+Craig> HAHAHAH
[18:56]<@jacky> hey.. since everybody is here... I need help
[18:56]<@jacky> got a few minutes?
[18:56]<GlitchPC> shoot jacky
[18:56]<@BC_Programming> I believe Calum told us previously about the .net url
[18:56]<@jacky> some time back.. sound died
[18:56]<@BC_Programming> computer help? we don't do that here... LOL
[18:56]<@jacky> lightning
[18:56]<@jacky> just bought a new sound card
[18:56]<+Craig> Hey Jacky, any clue why I would keep DC'ing from irc?
[18:57]<@jacky> Asus card
[18:57]<+Craig> Nice choice
[18:57]<@jacky> Craig: I just had to get a new dsl modem, and it was doing it to me, too. I changed in mIRC.. to have server ports to be the ones I opened in router.. seemed to work
[18:57]<GlitchPC> what's the issue jacky
[18:57]<@jacky> can't get sound
[18:57]<@jacky> symtoms have not changed
[18:57]<@jacky> sound icon
[18:57]<@jacky> bottom right
[18:57]<@jacky> little red x on it
[18:57]<@jacky> hover
[18:58]<@jacky> and it says.. "no speakers or headphones connected"
[18:58]<@jacky> I just talked to patio some
[18:58]<@jacky> he pointed me to a forum
[18:58]<@jacky> sigh
[18:58]<@jacky> if I go into the sound stuff in CP... in one place it hangs
[18:58]<GlitchPC> do you still have the old hardware listed in device manager?
[18:58]<@jacky> another place, it says no audio device installed
[18:58]<@BC_Programming> hmm,You've installed the drivers and all is well in device manager
[18:59]<@jacky> old hardware: I shut it off, in bios. and uninstalled in CP
[18:59]<@jacky> BC_Programming: In device manager now... driver appears, and no yellow !
[18:59]<@jacky> on it
[18:59]<@jacky> if that answers the question
[18:59]<@jacky> does it?
[18:59]<GlitchPC> the old card is onboard?
[18:59]<@BC_Programming> yep
[19:00]<GlitchPC> sound i mena
[19:00]<@jacky> old card is integrated in mb, yes
[19:00]<+Craig> Someone wanna try DCC'ing me
[19:00]<+Craig> please
[19:00]<GlitchPC> jacky...have you tried reinstall
[19:01]<@jacky> a couple times
[19:01]<GlitchPC> k
[19:01]<@jacky> with CD that came with it
[19:01]<@jacky> and
[19:01]<@jacky> with drivers I d/l from Asus
[19:01]<@BC_Programming> Craig: unable to connect
[19:01]<@jacky> didn't check dates.. they might be the same...
[19:01]<+Craig> yeah... thanks
[19:01]<@BC_Programming> hmm... well let me think here, it says no speakers or headphones connected; I'm fairly certain that that is only "detectable" when you have it set to digital audio... I think I recall having a similar issue with my audigy
[19:02]<+Craig> Havent skinned it yet, but here is the new Broked Computer, finally set it up. :) Seperate server from my church and everything. http://www.brokedcomputer.com/
[19:02]<GlitchPC> Uninstall the software and remove the device from device manager and then try reinstall with just the drivers from the CD
[19:02]<@jacky> during install of driver, I choose AC97
[19:02]<@jacky> is that significant?
[19:02]<+Craig> Could be,
[19:02]<@BC_Programming> o
[19:02]<+Craig> depends on the hardware,
[19:02]<@jacky> GlitchPC: that's what I did
[19:02]<@BC_Programming> AC97 is usually for integrated stuff
[19:03]<+Craig> thats also true,
[19:03]<@jacky> BC_Programming: how or where to check.. to see if it is set to digital audio?
[19:03]<@BC_Programming> jacky: trying to figure that out now myself, actually... I had the problem with XP, and it's different now...
[19:03]<@jacky> BC_Programming: ok
[19:03]<GlitchPC> is there a player that came with the card
[19:03]<GlitchPC> software
[19:03]<GlitchPC> that is
[19:04]<@jacky> GlitchPC: how would I find out? ... I guess that is a no
[19:04]<@jacky> GlitchPC: but I can't even get a Windows "ding"
[19:04]<GlitchPC> so you only installed the drivers from the cd...no addt'l software?
[19:04]<@jacky> GlitchPC: correct I dont' think there was anything else
[19:05]<GlitchPC> check the speaker settings?
[19:05]<@jacky> can't... they don't come up
[19:05]<@jacky> highlight "speakers" and click the configure button... nothing happens
[19:06]<GlitchPC> when you right-click the speaker...what are your options?
[19:06]<@jacky> right click the speaker... where?
[19:06]<GlitchPC> in the systray
[19:06]<@jacky> pop up menu
[19:06]<@jacky> brb with entries
[19:06]<GlitchPC> k
[19:07]<@jacky> trouble shot
[19:07]<@jacky> shoot
[19:07]<@jacky> playback devices
[19:07]<@jacky> recording devices
[19:07]<@jacky> sound
[19:07]<@jacky> volume control options
[19:07]<@jacky> 
[19:07]<@jacky> 
[19:07]<@jacky> that's it
[19:07]<GlitchPC> have you checked sound setting?
[19:07]<@jacky> GlitchPC: where?
[19:07]<GlitchPC> actually all options?
[19:07]<@jacky> in there?
[19:07]<GlitchPC> yes
[19:08]<@jacky> some hang
[19:08]<@jacky> brb.. checking again
[19:08]<GlitchPC> check to see if there is something out of the ordinary...
[19:08]<@BC_Programming> here's something to peruse, seems my digital audio idea was sort of a dead end though
[19:08]<@BC_Programming> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/quot-no-speakers-or-headphones-are-plugged-in-quot-error-on-windows-7.aspx
[19:08]<GlitchPC> specifically the type of speakers you are using
[19:09]<@BC_Programming> it doesn't really have a good "resolution"... but it seems to be the result of you having to disable your on-board
[19:09]<@jacky> BC_Programming: hold that a moment..
[19:09]<GlitchPC> good idea
[19:09]<@jacky> GlitchPC: how so? elaborate
[19:09]<@BC_Programming> does it still boot up if the on-board sound is enabled?
[19:09]<GlitchPC> BC's idea
[19:09]<@jacky> BC_Programming: yes.. it boots either way
[19:10]<@jacky> GlitchPC: so forget the speakers you mentioned, and continue with BC?
[19:10]<@jacky> ok
[19:10]<@jacky> will check his link then
[19:10]<@jacky> brb
[19:10]<GlitchPC> for now
[19:10]<@BC_Programming> you could try enabling it again; the sound won't work with your on-board, but you should be able to switch the primary sound device to the new card
[19:10]<GlitchPC> is this XP or W7?
[19:10]<@jacky> BC_Programming: already read that. but... remember.. onboard sound is dead... that's why I bought a card
[19:11]<@jacky> Win7 x64
[19:11]<@jacky> BC_Programming: where to switch primary device?
[19:11]<@BC_Programming> when you right-click the sound icon and choose "Playback devices"
[19:11]<@BC_Programming> assuming that anything shows up, of course
[19:11]<@BC_Programming> still googling around
[19:11]<@jacky> right now... default device is "speakers"
[19:12]<@jacky> if I choose Recording devices... it hangs
[19:12]<@jacky> have to use Task manager to kill it
[19:12]<@BC_Programming> ooh that's bad
[19:13]<@jacky> why?
[19:13]<@jacky> patio vaguely said that it meant a software problem... but he didn't explain it
[19:13]<@BC_Programming> if it hangs, it's usually a hardware or driver problem
[19:13]<@jacky> exactly opposite of what he said.. .heheehe
[19:13]<@jacky> by the way
[19:13]<@jacky> if I choose Troubleshoot
[19:14]<@jacky> it says audio device is disabled
[19:14]<GlitchPC> enable it through device manager
[19:14]<@jacky> there is no "enable" there. only disable
[19:15]<@BC_Programming> what does the sound card show up as in device manager?
[19:15]<@jacky> two entries
[19:16]<GlitchPC> and they are?
[19:16]<@jacky> Asus Xonar DG Audio device
[19:16]<@jacky> and
[19:16]<@jacky> ATI High Definition Audio Device
[19:16]<@jacky> those are under Sound, video and game controllers
[19:16]<GlitchPC> is ATI enabled?
[19:16]<@BC_Programming> well, the first one is your sound card, as I'm sure you already know... second one is your video card's HDMI
[19:16]<GlitchPC> if so, disable it and enable the Asus
[19:16]<@jacky> in DM.. I guess so.. in Sound, it is not
[19:17]<@jacky> How to enable the Asus?
[19:17]<@jacky> BC_Programming: what is hdmi? just another type of video out, I thought
[19:17]<GlitchPC> not sure in 7, but you should be able to right-click the device in DM and then select properties to enable it
[19:17]<GlitchPC> at least in XP you can...on the general tab
[19:17]<@jacky> GlitchPC: <@jacky> there is no "enable" there. only disable
[19:17]<GlitchPC> saw that
[19:18]<GlitchPC> just not sure where it is in 7
[19:18]<@jacky> I wonder... if it does not appear, because it is already enabled?
[19:18]<GlitchPC> you may be able to right-clic the device and enable from there
[19:18]<@BC_Programming> jacky: in the playback devices portion, what does it show in "controller information" when you right click "speakers" and choose "Properties"?
[19:18]<@jacky> BC_Programming: brb
[19:19]<@jacky> Asus DG with a properties button
[19:19]<@jacky> click that, and it says this device is working properly
[19:19]<@BC_Programming> yeah, that seems to just open up the device manager page for the device
[19:19]<@jacky> but in Levels tab.. it is just all blank
[19:20]<@jacky> BC_Programming: is what I reported what you expected?
[19:20]<@BC_Programming> I take it that the Device Usage combobox is set to "Use this device(Enable)"?
[19:20]<@BC_Programming> jacky: all but the levels tab being blank
[19:20]<@jacky> BC_Programming: where? direct me...
[19:21]<@BC_Programming> same properties window, on the same page as the "controller information"
[19:21]<@BC_Programming> but near the bottom
[19:21]<@BC_Programming> or- closer to the bottom, I should say
[19:21]<@jacky> found it.. yes.. "use this device (enable)
[19:21]<GlitchPC> I miss my W7 PC
[19:22]<@jacky> I miss f***ing DOS
[19:22]<@BC_Programming> curses, everything appears like it should be working, but for whatever reason it is not
[19:22]<GlitchPC> lol
[19:22]<@jacky> BC_Programming: what' sin your levels tab?
[19:22]<@BC_Programming> whole bunch of sliders... Play control, S/PDIF-In, MIDI synth, Line-In, Auxilary... etc
[19:23]<@jacky> so.. that's something
[19:23]<@jacky> it aint' ther eon mine
[19:23]<@jacky> I wonder what that means....
[19:23]<GlitchPC> what speakers are selected in the sound properties
[19:24]<@jacky> just "speakers"
[19:24]<@jacky> not sure where else to look....
[19:25]<@jacky> BC_Programming: oh.. you said AC97 is for the integrated stuff... a ways back...
[19:25]<@jacky> for that
[19:25]<@jacky> I unplugged the connector on the mb that went to front panel earphones
[19:25]<@jacky> and plugged to "front panel" connector on new card
[19:25]<@jacky> ok?
[19:26]<GlitchPC> jacky stated: during install of driver, I choose AC97
[19:26]<@jacky> that connector is labeled AC97, if I recall
[19:26]<@jacky> GlitchPC: yep.. it asked.. I think other choice was HDMI
[19:26]<@BC_Programming> are you plugging the speakers into the back of the PC or that front-panel?
[19:27]<@jacky> back of pc.. into the card
[19:27]<@jacky> oh.. I tested speakers... took them to a friend, and plugged into laptop... played fine
[19:27]<@BC_Programming> ok, all is well then... it was basically just asking what kind of front-panel the card had plugged into it, I have a similar option
[19:28]<@jacky> semi-side note:
[19:28]<@jacky> loooong ago
[19:28]<@jacky> when various problems first started
[19:28]<@jacky> I lost usb ext hd enc too
[19:28]<@jacky> and now have one yellow ! in DM .. .unknown device
[19:28]<@jacky> it appears with every boot
[19:28]<@jacky> patio ... back then... recommended a Repair install
[19:29]<@jacky> would that also help this sound problem, you think?
[19:29]<@jacky> could something be wacked in Windows?
[19:29]<@BC_Programming> well, it probably wouldn't hurt to try
[19:29]<@jacky> I would want step by step instructions to follow.. so as to not lose everything
[19:29]<@jacky> know where to get good, clear, reliable instructions?
[19:29]<GlitchPC> well...2:30 comes awful early...may as well get some suteye
[19:29]<@BC_Programming> Actually, I've never done a win7 repair install, I'll do a google
[19:30]<@jacky> 2:30 ?? what do you do now?
[19:30]<GlitchPC> Logistics for a retail company
[19:30]<GlitchPC> lol
[19:30]<GlitchPC> I work in a stockroom
[19:30]<@jacky> BC_Programming: and.. I looked a tiny bit... something about needing disc that matches current SP level
[19:30]<@jacky> GlitchPC: cool
[19:30]<@jacky> take home samples?
[19:30]<@jacky> <g>
[19:30]<GlitchPC> naw
[19:30]<@BC_Programming> http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html
[19:30]<@jacky> what kind of stock?
[19:31]<GlitchPC> but later guys...have to go
[19:31]<@jacky> BC_Programming: brb. loading
[19:31]<GlitchPC> the retailer is Target
[19:31]<@jacky> GlitchPC: nice talking to you
[19:31]<@jacky> GlitchPC: cool
[19:31]<GlitchPC> same here
[19:31]<GlitchPC> will be back on tomorrow am
[19:31]<@BC_Programming> jacky: windows 7 doesn't have any service packs, so you should be fine... as long as you have the disk
[19:32]<@jacky> BC_Programming: I have my originals. All shiny and stuff.
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[19:32]<@jacky> how do people do it though, after sp comes out?
[19:32]<@BC_Programming> well, honestly I've repair installed XP SP3 with SP2 without any issues.... but supposedly you're "supposed" to make a slipstrea, disk
[19:33]<@BC_Programming> which I've never bothered to do myself
[19:33]<@jacky> ouch
[19:33]<@jacky> ok
[19:33]<@jacky> have you read the Win7 instructions there yet?
[19:33]<@jacky> it looks risky...
[19:33]<@BC_Programming> I glanced over them
[19:33]<@BC_Programming> yeah it is
[19:33]<@BC_Programming> that's why I avoid repair installs
[19:33]<@jacky> I'm confused then
[19:34]<@jacky> I thought it was perfectly safe, if instructions are followed
[19:34]<@jacky> yet
[19:34]<@jacky> this looks like install over top
[19:34]<@BC_Programming> odd...
[19:34]<@jacky> what?
[19:35]<@BC_Programming> although, that is pretty much what a "repair" install for the previous versions was
[19:35]<@BC_Programming> I just though that there was a specific repair option with it now
[19:35]<@jacky> I didn't see it mentioned
[19:35]<@jacky> that's what alarmed me
[19:41]<@jacky> anything else?
[19:41]<@jacky> are we out of ideas for now?
[19:41]<@jacky> sigh....
[19:41]<@BC_Programming> well
[19:42]<@jacky> all this, for a freakin' sound card... sigh
[19:42]<@jacky> I did without for so long... and now I've spent the money, and still have zilch....
[19:42]<@jacky> I'm frustrated....
[19:42]<@BC_Programming> all I can really think of now is to try booting a Linux LiveCD, and see if it can use the card... then we'll know wether it's a hardware issue, possibly from damage to the motherboard- or Windows
[19:43]<@jacky> I hadn't thought of that
[19:43]<@jacky> I think I have one somewhree... I know I do.. jus thave to find it
[19:43]<@BC_Programming> Also- you could try another expansion slot for the card, maybe the one it is in now is somehow damaged too?
[19:43]<@jacky> and figure out how to know if it has sound enabled on *it*
[19:43]<@jacky> there are 3 slots for pci
[19:43]<@jacky> last week... onboard lan died
[19:44]<@jacky> so did DSL modem
[19:44]<@jacky> maybe one took out the other
[19:44]<@jacky> dunno
[19:44]<@jacky> found old nic card, in old computer, and installed in one slot
[19:44]<@jacky> using it, right now
[19:44]<@jacky> have tried sound card in both the other two
[19:45]<@jacky> long answer... but hope it answers
[19:45]<@BC_Programming> yeah it answers
[19:45]<@jacky> I'm tired... but I like your live CD idea
[19:46]<@BC_Programming> it should automatically detect it as well... everytime I've tried one it found my sound device "soon" enough for it to play the startup sound
[19:46]<@BC_Programming> that was re: a Live CD
[19:47]<@jacky> found my Puppy live cd... it is a couple years old
[19:47]<@jacky> wow... I found a CD with stuff on it for my mother...
[19:47]<@jacky> too
[19:47]<@BC_Programming> heh
[19:47]<@jacky> did you know?
[19:48]<@BC_Programming> I don't know if an older LiveCD will work, tbh
[19:48]<@BC_Programming> but I can't think of a reason why not
[19:48]<@jacky> I've never tried it on this newer computer... but I can. :)
[19:49]<@BC_Programming> since you had to buy a new card I'm guessing you didn't have any "spares" lying around like you did for the NIC?
[19:49]<@jacky> correct
[19:49]<@jacky> I think... not sure what was in old computer
[19:50]<@jacky> if it was a pci card, that is
[19:50]<@jacky> I'd have to go look, I suppose
[19:50]<@jacky> isn't there something about old pci cards though?
[19:50]<@jacky> diff voltage?
[19:50]<@jacky> are they keyed different? or will the plug right in?
[19:50]<@BC_Programming> nope... not that I know of
[19:50]<@jacky> ok
[19:50]<@BC_Programming> that is nore an AGP thing
[19:50]<@BC_Programming> more*
[19:50]<@jacky> ah
[19:50]<@jacky> maybe that's it
[19:50]<@jacky> are *they* keyed diff?
[19:51]<@jacky> or will they plug right in?
[19:51]<@BC_Programming> the AGP cards are... PCI are all the same AFAIK
[19:51]<@jacky> ok
[19:51]<@jacky> can you stick around a few minutes?
[19:51]<@jacky> I'm going to try booting this
[19:52]<@BC_Programming> I have a good number of them ranging from the early nineties to last year and they are all the same and work fine :)
[19:52]<@BC_Programming> sure
[19:52]<@BC_Programming> I'll be around
[19:52]<@jacky> you have a goo dnumbe rof what? pci cards?
[19:52]<@jacky> or pci sound cards?
[19:52]<@BC_Programming> PCI cards... all kinds
[19:52]<@BC_Programming> I think I have two PCI Sound cards
[19:52]<@BC_Programming> but I'm not sure if they still work or not
[19:52]<@jacky> ok
[19:52]<@jacky> brb.. hopefully
[19:52]<@jacky> :)
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[20:01]<@jacky> BC_Programming: puppy won't boot. something about can't find something... attempting to kill init
[20:01]<@jacky> then it just sits
[20:01]<@jacky> I think I saw something about idecd
[20:02]<@jacky> that would do it... since CD is SATA?
[20:02]<@jacky> maybe old puppy?
[20:02]<@BC_Programming> maybe
[20:02]<@jacky> rats..
[20:02]<@BC_Programming> ...probably, actually
[20:02]<@jacky> hey... do you have a live cd that does sata?
[20:02]<@jacky> etc., etc.
[20:02]<@jacky> if so.. name it
[20:02]<@jacky> I'll d/l it
[20:02]<@jacky> hopefully a simple one
[20:02]<@jacky> heh
[20:03]<@BC_Programming> I don't know for sure, but I do know the latest version of Mint works with SATA, since it is on my laptop
[20:03]<@jacky> "on" the laptop though?
[20:03]<@jacky> is it live or installed?
[20:03]<@BC_Programming> both
[20:03]<@BC_Programming> http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php
[20:03]<@jacky> ok
[20:03]<@jacky> and ok
[20:03]<@jacky> checking now
[20:03]<@BC_Programming> oh sorry.... I mean installed, thought you meant Mint itself
[20:04]<@jacky> oh.. mint does sound too, all ok for you?
[20:04]<@jacky> wait
[20:04]<@jacky> is there a live ver of Mint?
[20:04]<@BC_Programming> I did run it as a liveCD before install, and it worked
[20:04]<@jacky> cool
[20:04]<@jacky> worked with sata AND sound?
[20:04]<@BC_Programming> to my recollection
[20:04]<@jacky> heh
[20:05]<@BC_Programming> it was the wireless I had to battle with to get working, that I remember
[20:05]<@jacky> I see two sets of live cds
[20:05]<@jacky> one is just more bloated?
[20:05]<@jacky> I want the smaller one, right?
[20:05]<@jacky> and.. would you do 32 bit or 64 bit?
[20:05]<@BC_Programming> yeah go for the LiveCD, the LiveDVD has stuff like openoffice and samba and whatnot
[20:06]<@jacky> ah... sorry.. tired.. didn't see "DVD" and "CD"
[20:06]<@BC_Programming> hmm... as for bitness, I'm using 64-bit
[20:06]<@jacky> ok
[20:07]<@jacky> I'm here: http://linuxfreedom.com/linuxmint/linuxmint.com/stable/10/linuxmint-10-gnome-cd-amd64.iso
[20:07]<@jacky> why are some over 700 meg? any idea?
[20:08]<@BC_Programming> DVD's have a minimum size to work properly, I think
[20:08]<@jacky> I have AMD processor... so Iassume I don't want I386, and do want amd64 ?
[20:08]<@jacky> arg... again.. didn't see DVD
[20:08]<@jacky> sorry
[20:08]<@jacky> so I want: linuxmint-10-gnome-cd-amd64.iso
[20:08]<@jacky>
[20:08]<@jacky> 697Meg
[20:08]<@jacky> 
[20:08]<@jacky> ?
[20:08]<@BC_Programming> amd64=64-bit, i386=32-bit, both would work
[20:08]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[20:09]<@jacky> ok.. .I'm going to get something to eat, watch a little tv, then to bed
[20:09]<@jacky> this will take a looooong time
[20:09]<@jacky> 1.5 hours, estimated
[20:09]<@BC_Programming> ok, later then :)
[20:09]<@jacky> hey
[20:10]<@jacky> thanks
[20:10]<@jacky> patio sort of dusted me off
[20:10]<@jacky> and I was surprised by that
[20:10]<@jacky> thanks for stickign with me
[20:10]<@BC_Programming> your welcome :)
[20:10]<@jacky> my welcome?
[20:10]<@jacky> <g>
[20:10]<@jacky> ohhhhh! you meant "you're"
[20:10]<@jacky> hehehheeh
[20:10]<@BC_Programming> yes, you can keep it
[20:10]<@jacky> har
[20:10]<@jacky> if something comes to you in a dream about this
[20:10]<@jacky> I'll pop in briefly tomorrow
[20:11]<@jacky> I'm desperate.. this is baffling me
[20:11]<@BC_Programming> k
[20:11]<@jacky> bye for now
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