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[09:32] sonicrules1234 (sonicrules@mib-6494DB2B.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined #glitchpc. [09:53] camerongray (camerongra@DFC306F8.8B48AAD.BA894C23.IP) left irc: Ping timeout [09:53] Nick change: jacky_away -> jacky [10:01] camerongray (camerongra@DFC306F8.8B48AAD.BA894C23.IP) joined #glitchpc. [10:02] camerongray (camerongra@DFC306F8.8B48AAD.BA894C23.IP) left irc: Quit: I'll be back later [10:07] be back later [10:07] jacky (the_kink@mib-D4621FC.slsbmd.east.verizon.net) left #glitchpc. [10:22] OS/2 Warp [10:35] ISP [10:35] sub light [10:36] OS/2 Warp is an OS :P [10:36] Yeah I get that [10:36] crazy buggers at IBM [10:42] Crazy peope in the Programming world... those crazy peeps, like what did they expect? Things to work? Or like to make a language never used? Lol at programmers... [10:43] My programming is just messy [10:43] Not found my signature yet [10:43] oh dear gawd... I was going to install OS/2 Warp 4 but I think I may have changed my mind [10:43] the setup program wants to create like 44 floppies [10:44] BC_Programming can I PM you my programming to see how messy you think it is...? [10:44] um ok [10:44] It is TCL [10:44] probably should pastebin [10:45] Yeah I will do obviously but I will link in PM [10:45] oh ok [10:46] Jacky has other stuff to deal with at the minute, dso just asking for outside help, sorry should have been clearer [10:47] I thought you wanted to know if it was messy [10:47] Yeah as I write these myself [10:48] oh ok [10:48] Can I PM you the link? [10:48] yep [10:48] Thx [10:50] I forgot how gross TCL was [10:50] heh [10:50] I mean... compared to like C# or python or whatever [10:51] not as messy as PHP or perl though... the code itself isn't messy at all [10:51] parts of BASeBlock look a million times worse [10:52] and I hard....code.... fonts... oh shute [10:52] shite* [10:52] that might be why it stopped working on linux... I hard-coded teh Consolas font... lol [10:53] I find TCL quite hard to deal with.... but I'm getting there as it's my first programming language I will take your word that it is aweful [10:54] could be worse... you could be using Perl or BASIC [10:54] k [10:55] actually, come to think of it Objective-C is probably one of the weirdest languages [10:55] it's like it was made by the french or something, everything is done backwards [10:55] lol [10:59] Found the best song EVER [10:59] kewl [11:08] Trying to find a video to use it on [11:09] ohhh need to re-post yours [11:16] Love people who SPAM http://www.youtube.com/user/VendorLock?email=share_youtube_user and those fools that try and drag you into it [11:18] rofl [11:18] "Imagine the power of turing" [11:18] What does Alan Turing have to do with it! haha [11:18] I hate these idiots [11:18] omfg... "put them on a mailing list" [11:18] what a douche [11:19] Did you see my message, this cock messaged me [11:19] haha he did? lol [11:19] I posted on his wall [11:20] you mean he's got a facebook as well? [11:20] I mean his youtube 'wall' thingy [11:20] message board [11:20] channel comments [11:20] That will do [11:20] I think he might have deleted yours [11:20] already [11:21] the last one was 12 hours agp [11:21] of course they are all "positive" comments, so it's no wonder what happened [11:21] looking back [11:22] this guy is the biggest a-hole who I've ever had the pleasure to listen to [11:22] damned spammers trying to sell his spamming techniques [11:23] Can I DCC you a file? [11:23] why if I didn't know any better I'd grep him I would [11:23] yeah sure [11:23] thx [11:24] haha! he gave his real E-mail [11:24] I shall add this to my "hacktargets" text file [11:24] which I of course have to create now [11:24] lol [11:25] haha.. can you imagine how many other people commented something like that that he deleted? [11:25] perhaps we should sign his E-mail up for some mailing lists? [11:25] see how he likes it [11:25] lol I would love for that to happen [11:26] step one: find shifty site [11:26] step two: sign up using his e-mail [11:26] step three: ? [11:26] step four: PROFIT! [11:26] lol [11:27] You reap what you soe [11:30] Craig (ce@EA3EABBF.9871C301.B29F9450.IP) joined #glitchpc. [11:30] signed him up for this: http://pcworkathome.net/ [11:30] lol [11:30] he should have some fun [11:31] looking [11:31] it's rated RED by WOT, so it's just what we're looking for [11:31] This site has a poor reputation. [11:31] pcworkathome.net [11:31] View rating details and comments [11:31] Trustworthiness [11:31] Very poor [11:31] Vendor reliability [11:31] Poor [11:31] Privacy [11:31] Poor [11:31] Child safety [11:31] Very poor [11:31] This site is safe - I want to rate it Ignore warning and go to th [11:32] that's what I just said [11:32] it's rated RED [11:32] Yeah sorry [11:32] that's sorta the idea tho, since I'm submitting e-mail..mwa haha [11:32] hehe [11:34] perhaps he should have an eHarmony profile [11:35] oh you genius [11:35] let's see.. I think he's a man seeking a man [11:35] damn need to invent some zip codes [11:35] I can give UK ones np [11:36] omfg! and he doesn't just give us one e-mail in the youtube, the popup has a bunch of others too [11:36] let's sign all of them up for that first mailing list [11:36] sweet [11:37] I feel a video coming about 'touche' [11:37] jacky (the_kink@mib-D4621FC.slsbmd.east.verizon.net) joined #glitchpc. [11:37] #glitchpc: mode change '+o jacky' by ChanServ!services@mibbit.com [11:38] This could be epic [11:38] Hold off before you send it all out [11:38] y [11:38] Mulreay: Hello [11:38] BC_Programming: Hello [11:38] I'm still trying to conceive of clever things to put in "his" eHarmony profile [11:39] Jacky:Hello [11:39] Whay not BC_Programming make a video of turning spammers to there stupidity... jacky hello [11:39] BC_Programming: you want to tell him, or should I? [11:40] heh [11:40] their* [11:40] tnx... I couldn't stand it much longer [11:41] one cannot let one's friends appear like dunderheads [11:41] :) [11:41] heh [11:42] wee not bee stoopid in h'yar... we bee edu-ma-ka-ted [11:44] BC_Programming: what's up with Warp 4? just playing around? [11:45] I was, but VMWare doesn't like it for some reason [11:46] can't say about that... when I ran Warp4, I'd never heard of vmware [11:46] heheeh [11:46] I ran it for years though [11:46] yeah no doubt it's solid [11:46] in the shaky world of windows, os/2 was solid [11:46] lol! [11:46] the old saying was: "OS/2 does DOS better than DOS does DOS" too [11:47] you had two "command prompt" windows. one was DOS, other was OS/2 [11:47] but, you could run dos batch files, from the OS/2 window, if you wished [11:47] OS/2 is in many ways similar to NT, since MS and IBM worked jointly on it for a time [11:47] then, there was REXX [11:47] other way around [11:47] NT is similar to OS/2 [11:47] heheehe [11:47] my PC-DOS 7 on my laptop had REXX [11:47] HPFS for example [11:47] I think they just renamed it to NTFS [11:48] naw, I think HPFS was a mac thing? [11:48] oh... wait, maybe that was HFS... [11:48] I only experimented with REXX a time or two... so I may as well have no experience [11:48] for sure HPFS was OS/2. I used it [11:48] instead of fat [11:48] I mean originally [11:48] sonicrules1234 (sonicrules@mib-6494DB2B.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout [11:48] High Performance File System, if I recall [11:49] no idea where it was "originally"... I'd have said it was IBM's though [11:49] I still have the install CD's... somewhere... if they still are good [11:49] I had both Warp3 and Warp4 [11:49] I wonder if you can still download the fix packs? [11:50] If I recall, you didn't want to go past FP-12, as then you got into some real new stuff, with Warp4 [11:50] I did FP-12, for Y2K stuff, I think [11:50] took forever, on a 56K modem [11:50] heh [11:55] well just figured out why it won't work in VMWare [11:55] turns out my processor needs to support Hardware virtualization or something [11:55] I wonder what that is [11:55] oh well [11:55] It's a processor feature [11:55] and.. how did you find out? [11:56] duhh [11:56] well I edited to cfg [11:56] to change the "GuestOS" from "other" to "os2experimental" like I found in a blog [11:56] oh.. I wonder what the hardware feature, of supporting hardware virtualization, is [11:56] and then when I went to start it VMWare said I needed hardware virtualization in order to run OS/2 as a guest OS [11:57] so.. VMWare told you that you need this? [11:57] ok [11:57] I wonder if it is something you can turn on, in bios [11:57] it means I need hardware virtualization to run OS/2 inside of VMWare [11:57] no [11:57] it's a processor feature [11:57] duh, again [11:57] heheeh [11:57] kind of circulare today, aren't you? heheheeh [11:58] <&BC_Programming> it's a processor feature << yep, you already said that [11:58] Yes. I know [11:58] heheh [11:58] so.. dual boot it, instead [11:58] ? [11:59] not fecking likely [11:59] what is the question.. sorry [11:59] oh? why? is it a problem to dual boot it? [11:59] yes. [12:00] Not worth the trouble, and I'd probably have to reformat, and I doubt OS/2 properly supports SATA and all that [12:00] oh.. didn't realize you'd have to reformat [12:00] and as for SATA... good question... you are probably right [12:00] I wonder if anybody ever came out with a driver or whatever it would be called... to support SATA under os/2... I bet some geek somewhere did it [12:01] that's why I wanted to run it in VMWare :( [12:01] actually I think I had it running in MS Virtual PC oddly enough [12:01] so you didn't have to reformat? .. yep, I see [12:09] VirtualBox claims to work with Warp 4, going to try that [12:10] more a curiousity thing, heh... I remember I removed OS/2 from my thinkpad since I was nearly out of space on the drive [12:10] didn't realize you'd ever run it [12:10] cool [12:10] I'm not sure if it was Warp 4, though [12:11] trying to even remember what the great diff was... if there was one [12:14] sonicrules1234 (sonicrules@mib-6494DB2B.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined #glitchpc. [12:14] BC_Programming (BC_Program@mib-E2D98C5E.no.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [12:14] BC_Programming (BC_Program@mib-E2D98C5E.no.shawcable.net) joined #glitchpc. [12:14] #glitchpc: mode change '+ao BC_Programming BC_Programming' by ChanServ!services@mibbit.com [12:16] jacky: you might find this interesting: http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/os2warp.html [12:16] loading [12:19] I'd seen that info before, I suppose, as it all seemed familiar [12:19] not that I retained it, of course [12:19] the part about Commodore, I didnt' remember at all [12:19] it is interesting though, to read how things come to be [12:19] ya [12:20] I like old computer stuff myself, watching ancient episodes of "Computer Chronicles" and watching them ooh and aah at stuff that we take for granted nowadays [12:21] it opens your eyes, and makes you think [12:22] I can remember my father telling me, one day as a boy, an airplane came over low... he guessed it was landing and guessed where (open field a couple miles away)... he said he took off running and was "almost there at the same time as that plane". I asked why... what's the big deal?.. he said he wanted to see one of these things, that people called "airplanes" !! [12:22] times have changed, eh? [12:22] ya [12:23] now people complain when planes fly too low :P [12:23] yep [12:23] I hate it when they hit my house, don't you? [12:23] heh [12:25] hmm, well, VirtualBox won't run OS/2 without hardware virtualization either [12:25] damn u OS/2 for using all the features of the x86 [12:25] :P [12:25] I could try a pure emulator though [12:26] but.. you are such a cad... shouldn't you use an impure emulator? [12:26] :P well I was, VirtualBox and VMWare aren't "pure" emulators in a sense [12:26] thus the virtualization [12:27] oh [12:27] ok [12:27] heh [12:27] whereas, say, bochs or qemu actually emulate everything... VMWare and cohorts will actually virtualize so that the physical CPU does some of the work, or something [12:27] and apparently it's hard to virtualize Ring 2 and OS/2 happens to use that [12:27] like I know what Ring 2 is.... [12:28] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_%28computer_security%29 [12:46] sonicrules1234 (sonicrules@mib-6494DB2B.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:58] sonicrules1234 (sonicrules@mib-6494DB2B.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined #glitchpc. [13:00] oh I forget if I told you Jacky... the txt2html python script is done [13:00] I think you did, it seems familiar [13:01] and I forgot it [13:01] sorry [13:01] heh [13:01] looking at what is online now though [13:01] what will it do for us? [13:01] well the script I wrote pretty much does the same thing as the old version [13:01] and, .. trying to remember... what is it that it does for us? [13:02] changes the text logs in that specific format that your chanbotII script is giving out into coloured HTML [13:02] ah... adds color then? [13:02] ok [13:02] cool [13:02] just tried: http://bc-programming.com/index.php?page=irc [13:02] and am getting error today [13:02] just fyi [13:02] yeah that might be broken [13:02] whathappened? [13:02] I made some changes to the php and forgot to test them :P [13:03] tsk, tsk [13:03] Rule #1 [13:03] fixed [13:03] or not [13:03] Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /home/bcprogra/public_html/irclogview.php on line 273 [13:04] sonicrules1234 (sonicrules@mib-6494DB2B.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout [13:04] there we go [13:04] I just ripped out the new routine [13:05] why is it showing logs from Jan 2011 ? [13:05] one of the logs is named 2010.01.31 [13:06] really?? [13:06] I was must messing with you, and made that up [13:06] http://bc-programming.com/irclogs/HTML/glitchpc.log.%5B2010.01.31%5D.html [13:06] oh wait [13:06] lol [13:06] I'm looking at jan 2010 [13:06] har [13:07] years confuse me [13:07] ok.. let's see... you need to send me that program? [13:07] what with their... numbers [13:07] ahh yes I'll upload it and give you a link [13:07] so I can put it on craig's server and process the file, before sending it to your server? [13:07] is this correct? [13:07] yep [13:07] can you just send it to me here, now? [13:09] I could do that as well [13:09] just have to transfer it from my laptop [13:09] am I to wait? [13:09] plz [13:09] (I'm leaving in... oh... 15 to 30 min from now ) [13:10] cool [13:10] ack'd it [13:10] it is not coming through though [13:11] got to 92% abd stopped [13:11] on my end I mean [13:11] oh? [13:11] I didn't see any of it [13:11] can you start a regular dcc chat with me though? [13:11] yeah 4KB is the size of a single packet I suppose [13:11] sort of... it starts and then it closes when I type anything [13:12] some sort of problem then, eh? [13:12] http://bc-programming.com/downloads/irc2html.zip [13:12] there :P [13:14] got it.. uploading to server, etc., etc. [13:14] I tried to document it in the readme [13:14] saw the file [13:14] Windoze notepad didn't like it [13:14] will read with less, in a min [13:15] ya :P I made it in linux gedit sorry [13:15] no biggy [13:17] what is -h switch ? [13:17] for help [13:17] ? [13:17] but in example, you have: [13:17] irc2html.py -u -h textin12.txt out.html [13:17] why would we do help, in there? [13:18] sonicrules1234 (sonicrules@mib-6494DB2B.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined #glitchpc. [13:18] um [13:19] ignore that, I think it's supposed to be a -u [13:19] my mistake [13:19] -u twice? [13:19] -r sorry [13:19] mainly... I'm looking to understand what command line switches I should use [13:19] heheehe [13:19] -r and -u [13:20] ok [13:20] cool [13:20] I may not have time, right now, to do the job [13:20] sorry for the confusion [13:20] but I'll try to get to it very soon [13:20] np [13:20] np [13:20] glad you were here, to answer q [13:20] :) [13:21] oh [13:21] one more [13:21] it looks for the .css and the .cfg file, in the same dir as .py is in? [13:22] if I wrote it properly [13:22] in other words, just put all three in same dir to use it? [13:22] it's supposed to [13:22] ok [13:22] cool [13:22] yep, that's what I did in my testing [13:22] easy enough [13:22] :) [13:22] and, now I sorta know python [13:22] heh [13:23] Python, meet BC. BC, meet Python [13:23] there you go [13:23] side tracking a bit [13:23] what did Mulreay do, with TCL? [13:23] hehehe [13:24] I saw he asked you something or other [13:24] oh it's just a segment of code, he wanted to know if it was "messy" [13:24] cool! [13:24] he's working on things... very good [13:24] and, I didn'trealize you'd ever done much with tcl [13:24] sorry, if I'd forgotten [13:25] I haven't really worked with tcl [13:26] oh [13:26] ok [13:26] hehehe [13:26] I mean, I can read it which was good enough for his purposes :P [13:26] and, what I know, I'm self taught... so I'm not an authority on it either [13:26] I'm just glad he is delving into it [13:27] if he sticks with it.. and just takes off small bites at a time, he will digest it... I'm sure [13:27] yeah I sorta had a problem not doing that when I was trying to learn C#... I tried to learn all of it at once [13:27] made my head spin [13:28] then I slowed down, and took smaller bites, absorbed each one, and moved on to the next "bite" etc, works best for almost anything really [13:28] including sandwiches [13:28] works best for almost anything really <<< yep [13:28] what is that old joke? how do you eat an elephant? [13:28] one bite at a time [13:28] heh [13:29] certainly not sideways [13:29] what was he doing? do you recall? [13:29] or.. is it none of my business [13:29] just curious.... [13:29] I'm not sure, I guess he added a new command from what I could gather [13:29] to print a message back [13:30] proc something {nick uhost handle chan text } { some stuff here} [13:30] something like that, then [13:30] yeah [13:30] putserv "privmsg $chan: $text" [13:30] cool [13:30] that too [13:30] I'm sure I'll bump into him, when he is around here, soon [13:30] I'm just glad he is pecking away at it, again [13:31] ok.. I need to get going [13:31] I'll try to stop back later on [13:31] k [13:31] tnx for the work on the python thing [13:31] now the ball is in my court [13:31] remind me, if you don't hear from me in a reasonable time [13:31] heh, ok [13:31] bye for now [13:31] jacky (the_kink@mib-D4621FC.slsbmd.east.verizon.net) left #glitchpc. [13:39] You crazy kids [13:39] indeed [13:41] Gonna do your video again later, as the one on youtube is lame [13:41] k [13:44]