Session Start: Tue Feb 23 00:00:00 2010
Session Ident: #glitchpc
[00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here.'
[00:00] * Set by Calum on Wed Dec 09 05:59:26
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[08:50] <Mulreay> HI jacky
[08:50] <@jacky> Mulreay: Hello
[08:50] <pottsi> hi jacky
[08:50] <@jacky> pottsi: Hello
[08:51] <@jacky> Mulreay: has Saber found you, with questions.. yet?
[08:51] <@jacky> ;)
[08:51] <Mulreay> I'm caught in a troubleshoot with sabretooth at the moment jacky.. may be you could see if you can help... :p we are getting there though..
[08:51] <@jacky> is it about his bot pinging out?
[08:51] <Mulreay> yes
[08:51] <@jacky> yesterday, I answered him on that... even gave him the links to read, in the egghelp forum
[08:51] <@jacky> he didn't like that answer
[08:51] <@jacky> said I didn't want to "help" him
[08:52] <Mulreay> what was it?
[08:52] <@jacky> and that he'd be asking you
[08:52] <@jacky> heheeheh
[08:52] <Mulreay> heh thx
[08:52] <@jacky> I used the search there... for
[08:52] <@jacky> trying to remember
[08:52] <@jacky> he showed it to me...
[08:52] <@jacky> copy n paste
[08:52] <Mulreay> Narrowed it down to a script
[08:52] <@jacky> from his log
[08:52] * isttop|online (pottsi@pottsi.staff.mibbit.net) has joined #glitchpc
[08:52] <@jacky> oh? according to HIM, waaaay back... first thing I had him do... was unload ALL scripts, and it still did it.... so it can't be a script
[08:52] <isttop|online> :D
[08:53] <@jacky> now, it is a script?
[08:53] <@jacky> heehheh
[08:53] <@jacky> wow... dealing with this guy is like pulling teeth...
[08:53] <isttop|online> ^^
[08:53] <@jacky> timer drift
[08:53] <@jacky> that's the thing he showed me from his log
[08:53] <isttop|online> when he first came to this server
[08:53] <@jacky> so.. I searched on that
[08:53] <isttop|online> he used to ask everyone
[08:53] <@jacky> and found a half dozen or so posts.... sounded exactly like his problem
[08:53] <Mulreay> Yeah I had him remove them all nothing happend.. added 3scripts that I know of and still not pinged out.. we are working through the scripts
[08:54] <@jacky> Mulreay: this is exactly the process I put him through... add them back, and figure out if one was causing it
[08:54] <isttop|online> i also told hi
[08:54] <isttop|online> m
[08:54] <@jacky> isttop|online: I don't mind being asked. I do mind being accused of "not helping" when I've spent a lot of time on it
[08:54] <pottsi> true dat
[08:55] <@jacky> if one does not want to listen, or simply doesn't like the answer, I get very close to a "F**K You!"
[08:55] <@jacky> heheehehe
[08:55] <pottsi> haha
[08:55] <@jacky> the way I see it... if it has already been described, detailed, and answered, in some forum posts... there is no need for me to re-write it all.
[08:55] <@jacky> go read it yourself
[08:55] <@jacky> THEN, if you don't understand it, we can talk about it
[08:56] <@jacky> y'know?
[08:56] <@jacky> sigh...
[08:56] <Mulreay> yeah the 'timer drift' I tried to explain means either the bot is taking to long to load scripts or he changed the clock on his machine
[08:56] <pottsi> heheh3
[08:56] <Mulreay> he's very... un-listening
[08:56] <@jacky> Mulreay: as I understood it, it was not time in loading scripts, but time in actually executing them
[08:56] <pottsi> fcuk i jjust spilt coffee
[08:56] <Mulreay> yes sorry.. thats what I meant
[08:57] <@jacky> "un-listening" <<< heheehe new word! very apropos! I like it...
[08:57] <Mulreay> heh... copyright
[08:57] <@jacky> I guess what bugs me is: just try. even a little bit... just try. even if you are wrong... put a little effort into learning it.
[08:57] <@jacky> don't just ask somebody else to do it all
[08:57] <@jacky> that is an employee
[08:57] <Mulreay> yeah..
[08:58] <@jacky> and we aint' getting paid.
[08:58] <@jacky> Mulreay: anyway, if you use the search, on the forums at egghelp.org
[08:58] <@jacky> search for timer drift
[08:58] <@jacky> and you'll find them
[08:58] <@jacky> a few are quite descriptive
[08:58] <@jacky> some are baloney
[08:58] <@jacky> typical
[08:59] <pottsi> i'm sorry again bout ssh problem jacky
[08:59] <@jacky> but it sure does sound like he has either : A script that is bogging things down
[08:59] <@jacky> or
[08:59] <Mulreay> yeah I had a good look
[08:59] <pottsi> hope it didnt stop you doing work
[08:59] <@jacky> soemthing else going on, on his computer (virus??) that is bogging it down
[08:59] <@jacky> pottsi: not too much.. just stuff I wanted to play around with
[08:59] <Mulreay> could be.. very realistic
[09:00] <pottsi> he could run wireshark
[09:00] <@jacky> Mulreay: if it never happens, when he has NO scripts loaded.... that is highly indicitive of some script being the culprit though
[09:00] <pottsi> even net stats to check his ip's
[09:00] <Mulreay> He could just give up and admit he can't run a bot
[09:00] <@jacky> pottsi: what do you mean?
[09:00] <pottsi> ?
[09:00] <@jacky> Mulreay: heheeh and the problem is not "can't run a bot" , the problem is "doesn't try"
[09:00] <@jacky> "check his ip's" ?
[09:01] <Mulreay> Yeah jacky: that's why were adding scripts on one at a time now then waiting 10mins between scripts
[09:01] <pottsi> yah, where his ip's connect to
[09:02] <@jacky> pottsi: like if some virus was running, and going out and connecting somewhere? is taht the idea?
[09:02] <Mulreay> I did find comething interesting in his CMD prompt though when he had all 8 scripts running
[09:02] <Mulreay> something*
[09:02] <pottsi> yeh jacky
[09:02] <@jacky> Mulreay: but.. has he run it long enogh, with NO scripts at all... to feel that the problem is gone when NO scripts are loaded?
[09:02] * pottsi checks all files before he runs them
[09:02] <Mulreay> by the way hello pottsi, sorry being rude
[09:02] <@jacky> pottsi: ok
[09:02] <pottsi> hiya Mulreay
[09:02] <Mulreay> we ran with it for 20mins with no scripts
[09:02] <@jacky> Mulreay: what was that... the interesting thing you found?
[09:03] <@jacky> Mulreay: and how does 20 min compare to before? in other words.. how often was it pinging out before?
[09:03] <Mulreay> not once
[09:03] <Mulreay> every 5mins
[09:03] <Mulreay> or so
[09:03] <@jacky> now that is telling you something, eh?
[09:03] <Mulreay> yup
[09:04] <@jacky> of course, when I had him do this, he said the opposite
[09:04] <@jacky> sigh
[09:04] <@jacky> that it still did it
[09:04] <@jacky> this makes it a heck of a lot easier
[09:04] <@jacky> now, you pretty much know it is a script
[09:05] <Mulreay> yeah.. he won't help himself
[09:05] <pottsi> i wonder if he has a slave to wipe is own arse
[09:05] <pottsi> :x
[09:05] <Mulreay> heh
[09:06] <@jacky> we've gotten to a bad place now... he still says things that make no sense, so I have to ask what he means
[09:06] <@jacky> and he thinks he can reply to me, the way I reply to him... "I already told you"
[09:06] <@jacky> so.. I've just been staying away
[09:06] <Mulreay> He's actually listening to what I say and following orders... bizarre
[09:07] <@jacky> that's a lot of f**king nerve... when I have the respect to ask what you mean... to show I'm interesting in trying to help... and get a smart ass reply for it
[09:07] <@jacky> that pisses me off
[09:07] <Mulreay> I have to speak like a fou yr old but.. progress is progress
[09:07] <@jacky> Mulreay: maybe he caught on... to get help, he's got to change his ways
[09:07] <Mulreay> four*
[09:07] <@jacky> if so.. .good
[09:07] <pottsi> t(-_-t) to him
[09:08] <Mulreay> yeah.. I did at firast say I wanted to speak to you first... I know what he's like. Then just caught up in it
[09:08] <@jacky> thinking...
[09:08] <@jacky> not getting it
[09:08] <@jacky> sorry pottsi
[09:08] <Mulreay> tw@t
[09:08] <pottsi> T
[09:08] <Mulreay> heh
[09:08] <pottsi> ^^
[09:08] <@jacky> twat to him?
[09:08] <@jacky> I think I'm lost
[09:08] <@jacky> heheeheh
[09:10] <Mulreay> Me too now
[09:10] <@jacky> heheeh
[09:10] <@jacky> that makes me feel better
[09:10] <Mulreay> lol
[09:11] <Mulreay> I have him on a 20min wait at the moment so I have some peace and quiet
[09:12] <@jacky> suggestion
[09:12] <@jacky> are you ready?
[09:12] <Mulreay> ok
[09:12] <@jacky> make it a 40 minute wait
[09:12] <@jacky> heh
[09:12] <Mulreay> heh
[09:13] <Mulreay> How about 24hrs... see you tomorrow sabertooth
[09:13] <@jacky> to make a better test, eh?
[09:13] <@jacky> heheheeh
[09:13] <Mulreay> Yeah..
[09:13] <@jacky> !seen street1
[09:13] <@jacky> brb
[09:13] <pottsi> ouch
[09:14] <Mulreay> not chatted with street for ages
[09:14] <Mulreay> ok jacky
[09:14] <Mulreay> or Robert should I say
[09:15] <Mulreay> Craig you here?
[09:16] <Mulreay> lurking?
[09:17] <Mulreay> that will be a no
[09:17] <Mulreay> !seen bc_programming
[09:17] <Mulreay> 6mins... wow
[09:18] <Mulreay> playing Fallout 3 no doubt
[09:20] * Mulreay is now known as mulreay_dancing
[09:20] <@jacky> back
[09:20] <@jacky> mulreay_dancing: we are concerned about street
[09:20] <@jacky> Calum is going to ask Glitch
[09:20] <mulreay_dancing> Testing the scripts on his channel
[09:20] <@jacky> Glitch, one time in the past, called street on the phone, if I recall
[09:21] <@jacky> maybe he can do that again
[09:21] <mulreay_dancing> yeah...
[09:21] <mulreay_dancing> Hope he's ok
[09:22] <@jacky> yes. very much so
[09:22] <@jacky> 
[09:22] <@jacky> oh.. not sure if I asked... did Saber tell you about the timer drift error message?
[09:22] <@jacky> or did you learn of it from me?
[09:22] <mulreay_dancing> no he told me then I looked into it..
[09:22] * mulreay_dancing is now known as Mulreay
[09:22] <@jacky> well good
[09:22] <@jacky> at least that much registered on him
[09:22] <@jacky> heh
[09:22] <Mulreay> I learned from you.. :)
[09:23] <@jacky> then you are a lost puppy
[09:23] <@jacky> heheheeh
[09:24] <Mulreay> I prefer to look into things than bother you all the time.. only ask now when i'm stuck.. your a great teacher Jacky
[09:24] <@jacky> now see... THAT's good. if you learned to TRY to look into things for yourself... that is just wonderful
[09:25] <@jacky> THEN, we can all share notes, and learn from each other
[09:25] <Mulreay> Yeah definately
[09:26] <Mulreay> My 20mins is nearlly up I think... he will tell me in a moment.. got Him running allhis games/scripts and using them to see if anything happens
[09:26] <@jacky> excellent
[09:27] <Mulreay> notall sorry.. only five.. there are two I'm not to sure about.. we will add them one at a time from now on
[09:27] <Mulreay> not all*
[09:28] <Mulreay> 2mins left according to sabretooth
[09:28] <Mulreay> He's timing heh
[09:29] <Mulreay> Why he can't do this for you jacky is beyond me
[09:30] <@jacky> I thought he already HAD, and we were beyond this
[09:30] <@jacky> sigh
[09:30] <@jacky> and he wonders why others are confused at times.....
[09:30] <Mulreay> yeah..
[09:31] <Mulreay> jacky have you ever used winident.tcl just for quick refrence
[09:32] <@jacky> I *think* it is loaded, by default, with windrops... but you know... I never paid much attention to it
[09:32] <@jacky> if I "used" it, it was because it is loaded by default
[09:32] <@jacky> other than that, I don't recall ever intentionally doing anything with it
[09:32] <@jacky> Have you?
[09:32] <@jacky> what's it about?
[09:32] <Mulreay> yeah your right..
[09:32] <Mulreay> He has it loaded twice I think...
[09:33] <@jacky> oh?
[09:33] <@jacky> what makes you feel that way?
[09:34] <Mulreay> stand by just enquiring with him...
[09:34] <@jacky> ok
[09:37] <Mulreay> He's loaded winident on again as an added script.. even though it's included in his normal script...
[09:38] <Mulreay> would that cause issues do you think jacky?
[09:38] <@jacky> without looking at it, it would be a guess
[09:39] <@jacky> and I don't recall every trying to examine that script
[09:39] <@jacky> I *would* think
[09:39] <@jacky> that it is not designed for that
[09:39] <@jacky> so I'd advise him to be sure to load it only once
[09:39] <Mulreay> yeah I'm thinking the same
[09:39] <Mulreay> Two of the same script running one is integral the other an add-on
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[09:40] <Mulreay> hi camerongray
[09:40] <camerongray> hey
[09:41] <camerongray> !seen street1
[09:41] <camerongray> Any word from him?
[09:41] <Mulreay> we tried that a minute age camerongray
[09:41] <camerongray> ahh - ok
[09:41] <Mulreay> no sorry you would not know that
[09:42] <camerongray> lol
[09:43] <Mulreay> We think glitch may have his number so...
[09:44] <Mulreay> How are you camerongray?
[09:48] <camerongray> good thanks - and yourself
[09:52] <Mulreay> No jacky was not that... my fault.. he was not clear when he told me his scripts
[09:53] <Mulreay> I'm good camerongray just plodding along with this laptop
[09:54] <@jacky> ok, I think
[09:54] <@jacky> hehe
[09:55] <Mulreay> It's like pulling teeth this with him..
[09:55] <@jacky> oh... it gets more painful
[09:56] <@jacky> just keep at it
[09:56] <@jacky> you'll see
[09:56] <@jacky> heheehe
[09:56] <Mulreay> heh
[09:56] <pottsi> lol
[09:59] <Mulreay> I have my thoughts about what it was but... keeping it close to my chest.. I did point it out to him so thinking it's this weird line in his cmd. He posts me his new command everytime he restarts and the (weird) thing has not come back yet...
[10:00] <Mulreay> bet you never get this jacky
[10:00] <Mulreay> <Sabertooth> Oh man.. ty for helping me
[10:00] <Mulreay> heh
[10:00] <@jacky> you can be the good guy. I suppose I'll be the bad guy
[10:00] <@jacky> :)
[10:00] <Mulreay> I could just be evil and walk away now....
[10:01] <Mulreay> your the best guy jacky... I'm the apprentice :)
[10:01] <@jacky> apparently, I am not. you seem to be able to reach him, much better than I
[10:01] <@jacky> :)
[10:02] <Mulreay> I think he see's me has his last hope....
[10:02] <@jacky> hey... that'll work too
[10:02] <@jacky> ;)
[10:02] <Mulreay> probably the truth..
[10:03] <@jacky> when he gets pissy, and say things like, "ok then, I'll just delete my bot if you wont' help me"
[10:03] <@jacky> I usually just reply with , "ok"
[10:03] <Mulreay> just annoys me that he gives you so much crap
[10:03] <@jacky> heheeheh
[10:03] <Mulreay> hehehe
[10:03] <@jacky> nah... YOU know I tried, and most importantly, *I* know I tried.
[10:03] <@jacky> hehehe
[10:04] <Mulreay> Nothing worse than a defeatist
[10:04] <Mulreay> You do well jacky.. I would still be trying to get on Mirc if it was not for you
[10:05] <@jacky> nah... you just needed some cheerleading from the side
[10:05] <@jacky> that's all I really do
[10:05] <@jacky> :)
[10:05] <Mulreay> heh
[10:05] * Mulreay is now known as mulreay_testing
[10:06] * mulreay_testing is now known as Mulreay
[10:06] <Mulreay> no longer testing *sigh
[10:09] <Mulreay> Did you manage to get hold of Glitch, jacky?
[10:09] <@jacky> I asked Calum to
[10:10] <Mulreay> ok
[10:10] <@jacky> that was yesterday, that I spoke to Calum here
[10:10] <@jacky> maybe today, if we are lucky, we will hear back
[10:10] <Mulreay> cool...
[10:11] <Mulreay> I have found my new favourite song...
[10:11] <Mulreay> By Colin Hay
[10:11] <Mulreay> 'Waiting for my real life to begin'
[10:18] <@jacky> Mulreay: by the way, if you happen to see Donta around
[10:18] <Mulreay> yeah
[10:18] <@jacky> she ( I think it is a 'she') is experimenting with Windrop
[10:18] <@jacky> and got it up and running, yesterday
[10:18] <@jacky> :)
[10:18] <Mulreay> cool
[10:18] <Mulreay> Yeah happy to help
[10:18] <@jacky> I think she is hanging in a couple chans, and one of them is #codingcafe
[10:18] <Mulreay> cool
[10:19] <@jacky> said she had a couple script running
[10:19] <@jacky> I gave her my "welcome" script... she said she like it.. the way it looked with Rog
[10:19] <@jacky> anyways... now you know
[10:19] <@jacky> maybe cameron will see this tool
[10:19] <@jacky> too
[10:19] <Mulreay> yeah
[10:20] <@jacky> (I don't think Donta is active right now... just leaves it logged in... not sure..)
[10:20] <Mulreay> ok np
[10:20] <@jacky> #howl is the channel she wanted the bot for. .. not really sure what it is about
[10:21] <Mulreay> np will say hello if she pops up
[10:21] <@jacky> yep
[10:21] <@jacky> I need to do an errand
[10:21] <@jacky> be back soon, I hope
[10:21] <@jacky> anything more, for right now?
[10:22] <Mulreay> no still plodding along
[10:22] <Mulreay> will be here
[10:22] <@jacky> :)
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[11:10] <camerongray> wb
[11:10] <Mulreay> hi jacky
[11:10] <@jacky> tnx
[11:10] <@jacky> hello
[11:13] <Mulreay> he turned on me jacky
[11:14] <@jacky> heheeh
[11:14] <Mulreay> <Mulreay> <Mulreay> we have one more script to load yes??
[11:14] <Mulreay> <Sabertooth> Yes
[11:14] <Mulreay> <Mulreay> ok how long has it been?
[11:14] <Mulreay> <Sabertooth> And thats egglearn
[11:14] <Mulreay> <Sabertooth> Haven't counted the time
[11:14] <Mulreay> <Sabertooth> forgot
[11:14] <Mulreay> <Mulreay> ok np.. add it now then restart.. unless your not interested anymore
[11:14] <Mulreay> <Sabertooth> Ofcourse I am.. hold on
[11:15] <Mulreay> heh
[11:15] <Mulreay> He gets too distracted
[11:15] <@jacky> ( for what it is worth, I have good history with EggLearn. In this channel is it the !say function, in #codingcafe it is !info . )
[11:15] <Mulreay> heh
[11:16] <@jacky> you coined a word earlier... what was it? un-something...
[11:16] <@jacky> heck.. it was funny too.. and I joked about it.. now I've forgotten it
[11:16] <Mulreay> un-listening
[11:16] <@jacky> that's it!
[11:16] <Mulreay> heh
[11:17] <@jacky> now.. for distracted... maybe it is un-attentive ?
[11:17] <@jacky> hehehe
[11:17] <Mulreay> my new word
[11:17] <Mulreay> hehehe that works
[11:17] <@jacky> not nearly as good as un-listening though
[11:17] <@jacky> !say
[11:17] <@jacky> !say *
[11:17] <Mulreay> I will have a chat with the 'oxford English dictionary'
[11:18] <Mulreay> !g un-listening
[11:18] <Mulreay> heh
[11:18] <@jacky> !addgl un-listening What Mulreay finds that some people do, when you try to tell them something
[11:18] <@jacky> !say *listen*
[11:18] <@jacky> !say un-listening
[11:18] <@jacky> heheheeh
[11:19] <Mulreay> hehehehehe
[11:19] <Mulreay> like that
[11:19] <@jacky> !backup
[11:19] <@jacky> !backupgl
[11:20] <Mulreay> Can you do that from the channel? I always do it from the partyline
[11:20] <@jacky> what's that? the Egglearn commands?
[11:20] <@jacky> that I just did?
[11:20] <Mulreay> backup or save
[11:20] <@jacky> that was just for Egglearn
[11:20] <Mulreay> ok
[11:20] <@jacky> the .save that you are probably thinking of.. is for eggie to save its userfile and chanfile
[11:21] <@jacky> I think there is .chsave too
[11:21] <Mulreay> Mine is just normal backups of the bot
[11:21] <@jacky> if you mean the chanfile and userfile, when you say "normal backup" , then ok
[11:21] <@jacky> I believe that is all that is backed up though
[11:21] <@jacky> that's a lot though. of the critical info...
[11:22] <@jacky> it is not everything... you know... for example the data that is kept by scripts.. !seen info, for example
[11:22] <Mulreay> yeah I run a .save and a .backup
[11:22] <@jacky> you know.. I forget just what .backup actually does
[11:22] <@jacky> I'll have to check
[11:22] <@jacky> tnx
[11:23] <Mulreay> I think it's backs up the basic script.. into a ~bac file
[11:23] <@jacky> with .help backup and a very quick read... it seems to be the same as .save
[11:23] <@jacky> heheh
[11:23] <Mulreay> heh
[11:24] <@jacky> and it is .chansave , not .chsave , for the other one
[11:24] <Mulreay> I do both
[11:24] <@jacky> I *think* .save covers what .chansave does anyway though
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[11:26] <Mulreay> Would chansave not just cover the logs for the channels?? And then .save or .backup actually backup your bot>
[11:26] <@jacky> not the logs
[11:27] <@jacky> the chanfile
[11:27] <@jacky> the one that holds all the settings, that you can view with .chaninfo
[11:27] <@jacky> that's .chansave
[11:27] <Mulreay> ahh ok
[11:27] <@jacky> .save does the same function, but on the userfile
[11:27] <@jacky> the one that holds all the handles, passwords, flags, etc.
[11:27] <@jacky> but
[11:27] <@jacky> it seems to me
[11:27] <@jacky> that if we do .save
[11:27] <@jacky> it does both
[11:28] <@jacky> try it
[11:28] <Mulreay> got you.. just two commands doing the same thing.. almost
[11:28] <Mulreay> yeah done both already
[11:28] <@jacky> you know what?
[11:28] <@jacky> I think there is a difference between .backup and .save
[11:28] <@jacky> .save updates the file in use
[11:28] <@jacky> .backup makes a copy of it
[11:29] <@jacky> I think, upon further reflection
[11:29] <Mulreay> yeah your right..
[11:29] <@jacky> probably a good idea you have there
[11:29] <@jacky> do both, occasionally
[11:29] <Mulreay> I do.. always
[11:29] <@jacky> .save happens by itself... if the bot stays up
[11:29] <@jacky> so, I tend to forget it
[11:30] <@jacky> you,... if you take the bot down all the time, need to remember it
[11:30] <@jacky> that might be why you DO remember it
[11:30] <@jacky> heeh
[11:30] <Mulreay> heh true
[11:30] <@jacky> getting any closer to ridding yourself of the Norton stuff?
[11:30] <Mulreay> End of this month
[11:31] <@jacky> ready?
[11:31] <@jacky> got something else chosen?
[11:31] <Mulreay> Yes.. back in a sec once I have... talked to you :)
[11:31] <@jacky> np
[11:52] <Mulreay> <Mulreay> where are we upto?
[11:52] <Mulreay> <Sabertooth> Still no ping out
[11:52] <Mulreay> <Mulreay> ok would it normally of happened by now?
[11:52] <Mulreay> <Sabertooth> Yes
[11:52] <Mulreay> WHOO hoo
[11:52] <Mulreay> ok sorry acting the child
[11:53] <Mulreay> I added the whoo hoo on here not on his channel :p
[11:53] <@jacky> hey.. sounds like you are progressing with fixing it
[11:54] <Mulreay> It will all go <censored> up don't get to comfy.. heh
[11:56] <Mulreay> I think it's fixed.... wow
[11:57] <@jacky> that is a huge hurdle
[11:58] <@jacky> congrats
[11:58] <@jacky> :)
[11:59] <Mulreay> Not patting myself on the back yet.. he will soon find out he has to run all his scripts for 1hr continuace.. games/google the lot
[12:00] <Mulreay> when I say run I mean use
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[12:03] <Mulreay> hi Calum
[12:03] <@Calum> hey
[12:04] <Mulreay> Found it.. jacky I think... but working on it.. will let you know
[12:05] <@jacky> Mulreay: very cool
[12:05] <@jacky> Hi Calum
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[12:14] <@Calum> wow, totally wasn;t paying attention, sorry. Multitasking as always.
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[17:16] <@GlitchPC> !seen street1
[17:17] <@jacky_away> Hello
[17:17] <@jacky_away> thank you for trying
[17:17] <@jacky_away> Calum relayed
[17:20] <@jacky_away> GlitchPC: when you get back to keyboard, say jacky please. something I wanted to ask you...
[17:33] <@GlitchPC> jacky
[17:33] <@GlitchPC> sorry
[17:33] <@jacky_away> Hello
[17:33] <@jacky_away> tnx again
[17:33] <@GlitchPC> hey, bud
[17:33] <@jacky_away> Calum told me you tried
[17:33] <@GlitchPC> Yes, not sure if he moved or not
[17:33] <@jacky_away> he said the number you had was not good
[17:33] <@GlitchPC> It's possible
[17:33] <@jacky_away> sounded like you had a number saved?
[17:33] <@GlitchPC> this is true
[17:33] <@GlitchPC> yes
[17:34] <@jacky_away> just curios... I looked it up, with www.switchboard.com
[17:34] <@GlitchPC> I also checked the net...and it was the same number
[17:34] <@jacky_away> his name
[17:34] <@jacky_away> and town
[17:34] <@GlitchPC> so, I know it wasn't me
[17:34] <@GlitchPC> better safe than sorry
[17:34] <@jacky_away> ok... you compared
[17:34] <@GlitchPC> yes
[17:34] <@jacky_away> that is what I wanted to be sure of
[17:34] <@jacky_away> damn
[17:34] <@jacky_away> was hoping....
[17:34] <@jacky_away> something just is not right....
[17:34] <@GlitchPC> It's only been a week
[17:34] <@jacky_away> his family is there
[17:34] <@jacky_away> father and mother in law next town over, I think
[17:35] <@GlitchPC> remember his brother?
[17:35] <@jacky_away> deceased... I forget when... august maybe
[17:35] <@GlitchPC> I believe his brother is sick, as well
[17:35] <@GlitchPC> really?
[17:35] <@jacky_away> Yep
[17:35] <@GlitchPC> I wasn't aware
[17:35] <@GlitchPC> sorry to hear
[17:35] <@GlitchPC> Maybe I just forgot
[17:35] <@jacky_away> me either... one time in conversation, I was like... oh yeah.. haven't asked in a while.. .how's your brother?
[17:35] <@jacky_away> and he told me then
[17:36] <@GlitchPC> Wow...it's a shame
[17:36] <@jacky_away> if he had said so before, I too had forgotten. I don't think I did....
[17:36] <@GlitchPC> I hate to hear about someone passing
[17:36] <@GlitchPC> brings me down
[17:36] <@jacky_away> rats... I wish we could find out if he is ok
[17:36] <@jacky_away> need to come up with another idea....
[17:36] <@jacky_away> never once crossed my mind, that the phone wouldn't work....
[17:37] <@GlitchPC> You could always try an email...have ya done that?
[17:37] <@jacky_away> 2 days before I asked Calum to contact you
[17:37] <@GlitchPC> figured you would have
[17:37] <@jacky_away> but.. fromexperience swapping jokes... sometimes he didn't check unitl prompted here
[17:37] <@GlitchPC> has he been at CH?
[17:37] <@jacky_away> so that didn't really rattle me... I did it on principle
[17:37] <@jacky_away> you know... I never checked
[17:37] <@jacky_away> can do
[17:37] <@jacky_away> brb
[17:38] <@jacky_away> Last Active: February 13, 2010, 09:57:42 PM
[17:38] <@GlitchPC> hmmm
[17:38] <@jacky_away> I flipped through some logs, on BC's site
[17:39] <@GlitchPC> might want to ask if anyone over there has heard from him
[17:39] <@jacky_away> and I seem to remember around then, was his last appearance here
[17:39] <@jacky_away> but... he didn't say anything
[17:39] <@jacky_away> just logged on
[17:39] <@jacky_away> and off
[17:39] <@jacky_away> more than once.
[17:39] <@GlitchPC> I'm sure everything is ok, but if you hear anything...please let me know
[17:39] <@jacky_away> oh, I will
[17:39] <@jacky_away> I sure hope so
[17:40] <@jacky_away> I don't have your confidence
[17:40] <@jacky_away> I feel the opposite, and hope I'm wrong
[17:40] <@jacky_away> again.. thanks for trying
[17:40] <@GlitchPC> Heh...neither do I...but I try to bee optimistic on these things
[17:40] <@jacky_away> ok.
[17:40] <@GlitchPC> you're welcome
[17:40] <@jacky_away> work it from both ends....
[17:40] <@GlitchPC> there ya go
[17:40] <@jacky_away> whatever /whoever hears something
[17:41] <@jacky_away> share it
[17:41] <@GlitchPC> sounds like a plan
[17:41] <@jacky_away> cool
[17:41] <@GlitchPC> k...dinner
[17:41] <@jacky_away> tnx for coming in, today
[17:41] <@GlitchPC> ttyl
[17:41] <@jacky_away> see you later
[17:41] <@jacky_away> take care
[17:41] <@GlitchPC> np
[17:41] <@GlitchPC> always try to check in daily
[17:41] <@GlitchPC> will probably pop in later, too
[17:41] <@jacky_away> we must be on at diff times
[17:41] <@GlitchPC> have to eat my lettuce and chicken
[17:41] <@jacky_away> health kick?
[17:42] <@GlitchPC> this is true
[17:42] <@GlitchPC> sometimes I see ya here, but nothing is going on'
[17:42] <@jacky_away> yep
[17:42] <@GlitchPC> yeah...have to watch what I've been eating
[17:42] <@GlitchPC> off the coffee
[17:42] <@GlitchPC> and have really cut back on smoking
[17:42] <@jacky_away> Excellent!
[17:42] <@jacky_away> Great news
[17:43] <@jacky_away> good for you
[17:43] <@GlitchPC> I'm a nervous wreck, though
[17:43] <@jacky_away> you ok without the caffiene? some folks go through withdrawal.. headaches and such
[17:43] <@jacky_away> what's causing the nerves? narrowed it down?
[17:43] <@GlitchPC> I've been off coffee for about a month now
[17:43] <@GlitchPC> cigarettes
[17:43] <@jacky_away> so it is not the lack of coffee then...
[17:43] <@jacky_away> find something to do
[17:43] <@GlitchPC> not the coffee
[17:43] <@jacky_away> take your mind off it
[17:44] <@GlitchPC> the nicotine
[17:44] <@jacky_away> if only for 3 min
[17:44] <@GlitchPC> will try
[17:44] <@jacky_away> walk
[17:44] <@jacky_away> work
[17:44] <@jacky_away> whatever
[17:44] <@GlitchPC> Will do
[17:44] <@jacky_away> you don't have to take your mind off it for long
[17:44] <@jacky_away> just a couple min
[17:44] <@jacky_away> worked for me... that's all I can say
[17:44] <@GlitchPC> Well...I'll do the best I can
[17:44] <@jacky_away> then again, I was at zero, and intending to stay that way.. if you are just cutting down, you are prolonging the torture. heheeheheh
[17:45] <@GlitchPC> Hopefully kick it altogether
[17:45] <@jacky_away> April 1 is coming.. Ten years for me!!
[17:45] <@jacky_away> :)
[17:45] <@GlitchPC> sweet
[17:45] <@GlitchPC> good to hear
[17:45] <@jacky_away> if you reallyU mean to quit, then pick a date that is advantageous to you
[17:45] <@jacky_away> oops
[17:45] <@GlitchPC> I'm afraid of the weight gain, but the dr says...stay on my iet and all will be good
[17:46] <@GlitchPC> diet
[17:46] <@jacky_away> and use the "do something" theory... do walking, or somethign.. .NOT eating
[17:46] <@jacky_away> I gained some.. but part of that is our age
[17:46] <@jacky_away> and not over eating
[17:46] <@GlitchPC> I chew on matchsticks
[17:46] <@GlitchPC> lol
[17:46] <@jacky_away> but I really believe the nicotine hypes up one's metabolism
[17:46] <@jacky_away> take it away.. and blamo!
[17:46] <@jacky_away> slow down
[17:47] <@GlitchPC> yep
[17:47] <@jacky_away> hey.. spring is coming
[17:47] <@jacky_away> serious... consider walking
[17:47] <@GlitchPC> plus you always want to have that cig in your hand
[17:47] <@GlitchPC> so you replace it with all the wrong foods
[17:47] <@jacky_away> that part passes quickly
[17:47] <@GlitchPC> chips, etc
[17:47] <@jacky_away> it actually becomes laughable
[17:47] <@GlitchPC> seriously...
[17:47] <@jacky_away> like, "WTF am I *thinking*??!!?? "
[17:47] <@jacky_away> heheheehe
[17:48] <@jacky_away> no joke.. consider walking
[17:48] <@GlitchPC> LMAO
[17:48] <@GlitchPC> I walk the dog everyday
[17:48] <@GlitchPC> we put in about a mile or two
[17:48] <@jacky_away> I meant... for when you quit, for when you want one, to take your mind off it
[17:48] <@GlitchPC> feels good
[17:48] <@jacky_away> AND
[17:48] <@jacky_away> to beat the weight gain thing
[17:48] <@jacky_away> two things, at once
[17:48] <@jacky_away> :)
[17:48] <@GlitchPC> yep
[17:49] <@jacky_away> I remember.. ( it was April 1 ) smelling lilacs, in a vase, from across the room,
[17:49] <@jacky_away> a few days after I quit
[17:49] <@jacky_away> I was AMAZED!
[17:49] <@jacky_away> heheheh
[17:49] <@GlitchPC> sense of smell came back?
[17:49] <@jacky_away> Big time!
[17:49] <@jacky_away> you have no idea how bad you stink
[17:49] <@jacky_away> heheheeh
[17:49] <@GlitchPC> yes i do
[17:49] <@jacky_away> it is worse
[17:49] <@jacky_away> trust me
[17:49] <@jacky_away> heheeheh
[17:50] <@GlitchPC> D smokes bigtime
[17:50] <@GlitchPC> more in the car than here at home
[17:50] <@jacky_away> D ?
[17:50] <@GlitchPC> Dorothy
[17:50] <@jacky_away> ah
[17:50] <@jacky_away> forgot
[17:50] <@jacky_away> sorry
[17:50] <@GlitchPC> np
[17:50] <@jacky_away> that will make it difficult for you
[17:50] <@jacky_away> you will need real determination
[17:50] <@GlitchPC> she can't quit
[17:50] <@GlitchPC> it isn't in her
[17:50] <@jacky_away> up to her
[17:51] <@GlitchPC> she's bi-polar
[17:51] <@GlitchPC> and is on so many meds it's ridiculous
[17:51] <@jacky_away> people like that... try cutting down... then cutting down again... then again...until they are down to like 3 per day... then screw it.. it ain't worth it at that point
[17:51] <@GlitchPC> so getting her to stop smoking will take an act of God
[17:51] <@jacky_away> that way, would never have worked for me, and I knew it
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[17:52] <@jacky_away> that is all stuff that I am not qualified to comment reasonably on... she needs a pro
[17:52] <@GlitchPC> she sees a psych
[17:52] <@GlitchPC> it's all good
[17:52] <@jacky_away> if she ever wanted to quit, then she should ask him about it
[17:52] <@GlitchPC> Actually, we're the best things to happen to each other
[17:52] <@jacky_away> how many are you down to, now? per day
[17:53] <@GlitchPC> that's the trick though...wanting to
[17:53] <@jacky_away> EXACTLY!
[17:53] <@GlitchPC> I smoke five butts a day
[17:53] <@GlitchPC> I used to smoke a pack and a half
[17:53] <@jacky_away> I got past wanting to... I worked up a good, solid, real, Hate for it
[17:53] <@jacky_away> heheehehe
[17:53] <@jacky_away> 5?
[17:53] <@jacky_away> Five???
[17:53] <@jacky_away> and you don't quit??
[17:53] <@GlitchPC> yes
[17:53] <@jacky_away> geez...
[17:53] <@jacky_away> heheeh
[17:53] <@GlitchPC> not yet
[17:54] <@GlitchPC> I have to get out of the first thing in the morning and after meal habit
[17:54] <@jacky_away> when you get your head screwed on straight... when you realize that you are just prolonging the agony... .. .you'll quit.
[17:54] <@jacky_away> heheeheheh
[17:54] <@GlitchPC> like right now
[17:54] <@GlitchPC> after i finish this salad
[17:54] <@jacky_away> now see? THAT's when you have to plan to "do something"
[17:54] <@GlitchPC> I'll want one
[17:54] <@jacky_away> make your attack plan
[17:54] <@jacky_away> to win this little battle
[17:55] <@GlitchPC> well...I'll see what I can do...and skip this one and have the one before bed
[17:55] <@jacky_away> plan to do... __________ (fill in the blank) whenever you finish a meal
[17:55] <@GlitchPC> have sex
[17:55] <@GlitchPC> LOL
[17:55] <@jacky_away> it must be something either physical, or soemthing that takes your concentration
[17:55] <@jacky_away> absorbs you
[17:55] <@jacky_away> Hey..! that'll do it!
[17:56] <@GlitchPC> kk
[17:56] <@GlitchPC> well
[17:56] <@jacky_away> by the way.. when I did it
[17:56] <@GlitchPC> I'm outta here
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[17:56] <@jacky_away> I started with a free 8 hour head start
[17:56] <@GlitchPC> gotta finish this food and take the dog out
[17:56] <@jacky_away> I figured I had been 8 hours with none, when I woke up
[17:56] <@GlitchPC> not to worry...no butts
[17:56] <@jacky_away> so I just didn't smoke the first one that day
[17:56] <@jacky_away> :)
[17:56] <@jacky_away> there you go
[17:56] <@GlitchPC> It's tough though
[17:56] <@jacky_away> walk the dog a little farther
[17:57] <@GlitchPC> I've been smoking for a long long time
[17:57] <@jacky_away> you are drivign yourself nuts though
[17:57] <@jacky_away> see... I got farther and farther away
[17:57] <@jacky_away> every hour
[17:57] <@jacky_away> see the difference?
[17:57] <@jacky_away> I wish you good luck, with your method
[17:57] <@jacky_away> whatever works, for you.
[17:57] <@GlitchPC> thx, jacky
[17:57] <@jacky_away> that's what counts
[17:57] <@jacky_away> take care
[17:57] <@GlitchPC> Appreciate the talk and support
[17:57] <@GlitchPC> ttyl
[17:57] <@jacky_away> if you quit. NEVER go back
[17:57] <@jacky_away> not even one
[17:58] <@jacky_away> that is key
[17:58] <@GlitchPC> will do my best
[17:58] <@jacky_away> me? I wounldn't dare,.. now.. .10 years later
[17:58] <@GlitchPC> have a good night
[17:58] <@GlitchPC> sorry
[17:58] <@jacky_away> see ya
[17:58] <@jacky_away> :)
[17:58] <@GlitchPC> have to go...dog is having a fit
[17:58] <@jacky_away> bye
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[17:58] <@jacky_away> :)
[17:58] <@GlitchPC> bbl
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[19:27] <@jacky> see you all later
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