Session Start: Sun Feb 07 00:00:00 2010
Session Ident: #glitchpc
[00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here.'
[00:00] * Set by Calum on Wed Dec 09 05:59:26
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[07:22] <Mulreay> Hi camerongray
[07:22] <camerongray> howdy
[07:25] <Mulreay> How are you camerongray?
[07:26] <camerongray> good thanks - how are you?
[07:27] <Mulreay> Not to bad... just can't remember if I had a go at BC the other day
[07:27] <camerongray> what about?
[07:28] <Mulreay> I came on.. was quite drunk then I have no memory of what happened, but I just feel I through my dummy out the pram
[07:28] <camerongray> oops
[07:28] <Mulreay> yeah big oops
[07:28] <camerongray> I'm sure he'll understand
[07:28] <Mulreay> It's BC!!
[07:28] <camerongray> It was the alcohol :P
[07:29] <Mulreay> Yeah but no excuse
[07:29] <Mulreay> Currently installing Skype which is taking a long time....
[07:30] <camerongray> I need to try out skype
[07:30] <Mulreay> Yeah it's supposed to be great.. esspecially as I have friends in America and Australia
[07:30] <Mulreay> especially*
[07:33] <camerongray> g2g - bbl
[07:36] <Mulreay> ok camerongray later
[07:44] <camerongray> back
[07:45] <camerongray> btw - I worked out how to integrate SMF with joomla
[07:45] <camerongray> so the forum appears inside a page on your site
[07:46] <jjs999jjs> wrapper camerongray ?
[07:46] <Mulreay> Cool
[07:47] <camerongray> JFusion
[07:47] <camerongray> do you want me to set it up?
[07:47] <Mulreay> Can you add that camerongray?
[07:48] <camerongray> kk - doing
[07:49] <Mulreay> Nice one thanks..
[07:50] <Mulreay> Sorry I'm also (stupid me) helping someone in CH
[07:53] <camerongray> hmm - component won't install
[07:56] <camerongray> bbl
[07:56] <Mulreay> ok
[09:25] <camerongray> Mulreay: Seems like you are wanted in #CodingCafe :P
[09:30] <Mulreay> Yeah it's just the annoying Ryan...
[09:39] <camerongray> lol
[09:39] <camerongray> what does he want you for?
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[09:56] <camerongray> hey jacky
[09:57] <@jacky> camerongray: :)
[09:57] <@jacky> got your stuff?
[09:57] <@jacky> or.. I should ask... was it still there?
[09:57] <camerongray> not checked yet
[09:57] <camerongray> been busy
[09:57] <@jacky> heh
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[10:07] <camerongray> bbl
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[10:41] <@Calum> hey
[10:42] <@jacky> Calum: Hello
[10:43] <@jacky> still here
[10:43] <@jacky> not totally frozen
[10:43] <@jacky> sigh
[10:43] <@jacky> heheehe
[10:43] <@Calum> heh, well that's something at least
[10:43] <@jacky> not really above freezing
[10:43] <@jacky> where I shoveled, the walk melted
[10:44] <@jacky> everything else, is hard
[10:44] <@jacky> haven't even tried to move a vehicle
[10:44] <@jacky> lucky though... electric is on
[10:44] <@jacky> TV says many are out
[10:44] <@jacky> I heard one poor woman say hers had been out for like a day and a half now
[10:44] <@jacky> whew..
[10:44] <@Calum> sheesh
[10:44] <@jacky> today, sun is out
[10:44] <@jacky> bright
[10:45] <@jacky> super glare
[10:45] <@Calum> yeah
[10:45] <@jacky> I need to go shovel some more I suppose
[10:45] <@jacky> it is 12:45 pm
[10:45] <@jacky> good time of day for it
[10:45] <@Calum> heh
[10:45] <@jacky> (I'm putting it off....)
[10:46] <@jacky> just checked on weather.com ... first time a "4" appears...as in the forecasted high being in the 40s... is like 10 days away.
[10:46] <@jacky> :(
[10:46] <@Calum> ugh
[10:46] <@Calum> nasty
[10:46] <@jacky> yep
[10:47] <@jacky> sigh
[10:47] <@jacky> brb... somebody pm
[10:47] <@jacky> ok?
[10:47] <@Calum> ok
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[15:23] <Ashley> Hello
[15:23] <jack_e> Ashley: Hello
[15:23] <Craig> Hey Ash, were all over in CodingCafe
[15:23] <Craig> #codingcafe
[15:24] <jack_e> Craig: get all fancy, and use the invite command
[15:24] <jack_e> heheeh
[15:24] <Craig> meh
[15:27] <Ashley> Hi jack_e
[15:27] <Ashley> ok Craig
[15:29] <Ashley> Tux5 you there ?
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[19:07] <Mulreay> Craig are you here?
[19:07] <Craig> Yo
[19:07] <@BC_Programming> he lives!
[19:07] <Craig> Wazzup?
[19:08] <Mulreay> Hi that programme I downloaded has wrecked my external drive
[19:08] <Craig> Not wrecked, encrypted,
[19:08] <Craig> you need to read the instructions,
[19:09] <Craig> To access the information you have to enter the password you chose when you encrypted it,
[19:09] <Craig> then you can access the information
[19:09] <Mulreay> Ok half way through encrypting I got a bsod now the drive needs to be formatted
[19:09] <@BC_Programming> oooh
[19:10] <@BC_Programming> well it wasn't the programs fault then, really
[19:10] <Craig> eeep,
[19:10] <@BC_Programming> hmm, what was the program though?
[19:10] <Craig> Its a encryption program
[19:10] <@BC_Programming> yes.
[19:10] <Craig> probably encrypting the data.,
[19:10] <@BC_Programming> I gathered that
[19:10] <Craig> :P
[19:10] <Craig> heh
[19:10] <@BC_Programming> which ONE was my question :P
[19:11] <Craig> Yeah, Mulreay, was it encrypting or was it just encoding?
[19:11] <Craig> And have you tried to continue the process with the program/
[19:11] <Craig> ?
[19:11] <Mulreay> encrypting as far as I know.. just left it running
[19:11] <@BC_Programming> ok well I suppose I'll have to take a look at the IRC logs on my site if I want to find out the name...
[19:11] <Mulreay> comodo no longer see's the drive????
[19:11] <Craig> Comodo
[19:12] <Craig> http://www.comodo.com/home/data-storage-encryption/disk-encryption.php
[19:12] <@BC_Programming> ok
[19:12] <@BC_Programming> thx
[19:13] <Mulreay> Sorry just a little miffed.. it's my own fault.. you would not believe the amount of stuff I have lost...
[19:13] <Craig> Just give us a moment there Mulreay, dont do anything rash
[19:13] <Mulreay> ok
[19:13] <@BC_Programming> it might not be lost quite yet
[19:14] <Mulreay> It's me times my luck... it's probably gone
[19:14] <Craig> ... someone encrypted C drive... :P hahaha, now they cant start the computer... :S
[19:14] <@BC_Programming> hmmm
[19:15] <@BC_Programming> it looks like a common issue with the program and Vista x64... are you using x64?
[19:15] <Mulreay> 32
[19:15] <@BC_Programming> also, they were able to, in some cases, get the drive working by using "tools->Add encrypted drive"
[19:15] <Craig> But Vista is probably the common problem
[19:15] <@BC_Programming> not sure if thats in the program... or added to Explorer
[19:16] <Craig> Probably in Manager (my computer (right click) -> manage)
[19:16] <@BC_Programming> No.
[19:16] <Craig> ?
[19:16] <@BC_Programming> you cannot add anything to the Disk Management Snap in... there is no functionality for plugins
[19:16] <Craig> Ah
[19:17] <Craig> Did you Run Comodo Encryption as administrator?
[19:17] <Mulreay> yes
[19:17] <@BC_Programming> What does disk management show for the external?
[19:17] <Craig> Well thats good for a start atleast, so it wasnt privileges,
[19:18] <Mulreay> disk management?
[19:18] <@BC_Programming> Start->Run, diskmgmt.msc
[19:18] <Mulreay> ahh ok
[19:19] <Mulreay> It's there... but not showing as the name I gave it and showing..well empty
[19:20] <Craig> When you restarted your computer, did you see a screen asking you for a password?
[19:20] <Mulreay> yes
[19:20] <Craig> Before your login screen for windows,
[19:20] <Mulreay> Removed that option now
[19:20] <Craig> did you input your password there?
[19:20] <Mulreay> yes
[19:20] <Craig> no complaints from that area?
[19:21] <Mulreay> yes untill I removed the external drive
[19:21] <@BC_Programming> ahh
[19:21] <@BC_Programming> ok
[19:21] <@BC_Programming> plug it in
[19:21] <Mulreay> As it tried to boot from it
[19:21] <@BC_Programming> and try re...wha
[19:21] <@BC_Programming> boot from the external?
[19:21] <Mulreay> yes
[19:21] <Craig> Why would you boot from the external?
[19:21] <@BC_Programming> IT tried, not him
[19:21] <Mulreay> No the computer is trying to
[19:21] <Craig> Oh,
[19:21] <Craig> can you manually choose a boot partition?
[19:21] <@BC_Programming> hold on hold on
[19:22] <Craig> ok,
[19:22] <@BC_Programming> so mulreay... after you entered the password the first time- you could see the contents of the external properly, until you rebooted?
[19:22] <Mulreay> If it helps all it says for the drive now is it needs to be formatted
[19:22] <Mulreay> no
[19:22] <@BC_Programming> oh
[19:22] <Mulreay> It just goes to a black screen and that's it
[19:23] <@BC_Programming> plug it in immediately after the laptop starts booting from the HD
[19:23] <Mulreay> If I ever leave my external on when booting it asks me to ctrl alt del and restart.. normally
[19:23] <Craig> (You could also go into the CMOS and turn off USB booting)
[19:24] <Mulreay> ok I will try to reboot... brb
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[19:24] <@BC_Programming> who the hell suggested he use a encryption program anyway?
[19:24] <Craig> doe all on the same computer,
[19:24] <@BC_Programming> I don't even use the built-in encryption in windows
[19:24] <Craig> I didnt suggest it,
[19:25] <Craig> He wanted on
[19:25] <@BC_Programming> shure...
[19:25] <@BC_Programming> :P
[19:25] <Craig> one*
[19:25] <@BC_Programming> perhaps you should have explained that he didn't need one.... that's what I would have done. more trouble then their worth... well illustrated here
[19:25] <@BC_Programming> oh well
[19:25] <@BC_Programming> he got off better then me with that even if he lost the entire contents of the drive
[19:26] <@BC_Programming> since it was probably mostly downloads he can eventually get again
[19:26] <@BC_Programming> better then a drive full of a few years of hard work :P
[19:26] <Craig> I dont know, I think the drive is ok, just needs a bit of tlc, I think it will be fine,
[19:27] <@BC_Programming> I'm not so sure
[19:27] <@BC_Programming> but certainly a possibility
[19:27] <Craig> Why is that?
[19:27] <Craig> From what I have seen of Comodo, they have some safeguards put in place for problems,
[19:28] <Craig> I wouldnt be suprised if they had a way to recover it.
[19:29] <@BC_Programming> hmm
[19:29] <@BC_Programming> well even though it is a external hard disk he probably should have selected the "USB Stick" option while encrypting it.... it might even be why he's having difficulties now, since it is basically a USB drive
[19:30] <Craig> yeah,
[19:30] <Craig> the USB Stick option though is for using a USB stick for Authorization
[19:30] <@BC_Programming> oh ok
[19:31] <Craig> Though it would have been a good idea to use that, since it wouldnt use the Windows boot loader to authenticate.,
[19:34] <@BC_Programming> actually to be a pedant I better point out that it probably adds a winlogon hook, heh
[19:34] <Craig> yeah, thats what I was trying to get at,
[19:37] <@BC_Programming> this is relevant
[19:37] <@BC_Programming> http://forums.comodo.com/comodo_disk_encryption/comodo_disk_encryption_bug_reports-t24247.0.html
[19:37] <@BC_Programming> seems like reply #7 is like his scenario
[19:37] <Craig> He didnt download the beta thogh?
[19:37] <Craig> maybe
[19:38] <@BC_Programming> notice the date on the thread
[19:38] <@BC_Programming> the "beta" is now the mainstream app
[19:38] <@BC_Programming> "July 08, 2008"
[19:38] <Craig> hmmm point
[19:38] <@BC_Programming> hmm
[19:39] <@BC_Programming> they had an interesting resolution to the issue
[19:39] <@BC_Programming> "format the drive"
[19:39] <@BC_Programming> yeah
[19:39] <@BC_Programming> that's helpful
[19:39] <Craig> :S
[19:39] <@BC_Programming> This can happen when :
[19:39] <@BC_Programming> 1) usb-stick is removed during encryption process.
[19:39] <@BC_Programming> 2) accidentally restarted the system during encryption process.
[19:39] <@BC_Programming> sounds familar
[19:39] <@BC_Programming> familiar*
[19:39] <Craig> yeah
[19:39] <Craig> looking bad...
[19:40] <Craig> Wonder why he wouldnt do a test on a older drive or something?
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[19:41] <@BC_Programming> Craig: did you suggest he do that? Mulreay isn't exactly a super ultra expert
[19:41] <Mulreay> heh
[19:41] <@BC_Programming> I of course mean no offense Mulreay :)
[19:41] <Craig> I hadnt thought about that, as I was not thinking Mulreay would do it instantly,
[19:42] <Mulreay> The drive is gone... I need to face it.. Who needed all those games, movies, videos and over 1000 photo's.
[19:42] <@BC_Programming> I don't think he HAS any other drives to "test"
[19:42] <Mulreay> Certainly not me
[19:42] <Craig> ah
[19:42] <Mulreay> Well best just format it
[19:42] <@BC_Programming> Craig: have you happened to ever lose the entire contents of a drive?
[19:43] <jjs999jjs> lol
[19:43] <@BC_Programming> of important stuff, I mean
[19:43] <Craig> Yup, but since they were not encrypted, I just used a bit finder
[19:43] <@BC_Programming> well you didn't LOSE the contents then, sicne you got them back...
[19:43] <@BC_Programming> I mean, permanently...
[19:43] <Craig> True, but I have always had backups,
[19:43] <@BC_Programming> I did, twice in one day, actually
[19:43] <Craig> ouch...
[19:44] <@BC_Programming> first my flash drive failed catastrophically... every single file truncated to 4KB
[19:44] <Craig> ouch
[19:44] <@BC_Programming> managed to use chkdsk to recover about 200 or so MB of data into a bunch of chk files
[19:45] <Mulreay> Just coming to terms with the vast amount of time and effort I have lost. If it was not 3am and my housemate was not asleep in the next room.. I would be screaming into my pillow right now!!
[19:45] <@BC_Programming> copy'd those into one giant file that I stored on C:. copied what I still had on the key to my third HD, and managed to recover 4 whole projects by using editpad and searching in the giant file for specific snippets
[19:45] <Craig> Hey Mulreay how big was that drive?
[19:45] <@BC_Programming> then... I wanted to fix the flash drive.. and managed to repartition the external
[19:45] <Mulreay> 320gb
[19:45] <@BC_Programming> it's not the size that's important... it's what you do with it
[19:45] <@BC_Programming> that oddly applies here too
[19:46] <Mulreay> heh
[19:46] <Craig> Well, I have lost almost 1tb of info,
[19:46] <@BC_Programming> lost every single program I had written for the previous 5 years
[19:46] <Mulreay> Not tonight though
[19:46] <Craig> though, I know where to get it all back, and most of my photo's and such are in many places,
[19:46] <@BC_Programming> needless to say I've experienced what Mulreay is going through, and it's not pleasant
[19:46] <Craig> Yeah, I know what you mean,
[19:47] <@BC_Programming> yes craig... but do your backups help mulreay? :P
[19:47] <Mulreay> Just bare with me as I send that <censored> programme in to the deepest pits of <censored> hell... whilst kicking it in the teeth and calling it's mother a slag
[19:47] <@BC_Programming> well at least you have a program to blame
[19:47] <Craig> hmmm
[19:47] <@BC_Programming> I was the one who deleted the partition on mine
[19:48] <@BC_Programming> right-click, delete, yes... oh crap
[19:48] <Mulreay> My favourite film was on there... will have to buy it now
[19:48] <Craig> Hmmm, even after a repartition, and installation, I was able to get it back,
[19:48] <@BC_Programming> or download it again
[19:48] <@BC_Programming> heh
[19:48] <Craig> What movie?
[19:49] <@BC_Programming> Craig: I didn't have the internet at the time
[19:49] <Craig> ah
[19:50] <jjs999jjs> the internet is free
[19:50] <jjs999jjs> use mine
[19:50] <@BC_Programming> besides, I was half lying, I still had <some> of my stuff on my secondary hard drive, but it was really really old
[19:50] <Mulreay> It was about time I bought some blu-rays so this is my excuse
[19:50] <Craig> :S
[19:50] <@BC_Programming> yeah you never really think about the importance of backups before it's too late :'(
[19:50] <Craig> Yeah... :S
[19:51] <Mulreay> This was supposed to BE my backup drive
[19:51] <@BC_Programming> ahh so your scenario was similar to mine then. well, aside from the method it was lost
[19:51] <Mulreay> There's irony for you
[19:51] <@BC_Programming> yeah... strangely enough though I was oddly complacent
[19:51] <@BC_Programming> I just reformatted that drive
[19:51] <@BC_Programming> opened Visual basic
[19:52] <@BC_Programming> and rewrote BASeParser in 9 hours
[19:52] <@BC_Programming> of course you cannot simply retake pictures, so it's not quite the same, I suppose
[19:53] <Mulreay> And now to stick the knife in and twist... It won't let me uninstall as It's saying decrypt or remove an encrypted drive... my external is not plugged in so....
[19:53] <@BC_Programming> oh
[19:53] <@BC_Programming> hmm
[19:53] <@BC_Programming> try plugging it in again
[19:53] <@BC_Programming> see what ol' Comodo says about it
[19:54] <@BC_Programming> assuming it even shows up in comodo
[19:54] <@BC_Programming> and also assuming you haven't formatted it yet
[19:54] <Mulreay> Yeah formatted it
[19:54] <@BC_Programming> oh ok
[19:55] <Mulreay> try again
[19:56] <Mulreay> Please remove or dcrypt all encrypted partitions... I have right clicked each drive and they all say encrypt not decrypt.. this is fastly becoming a worse day contendor
[19:56] <@BC_Programming> you could try rebooting
[19:57] <Mulreay> Yeah will do..
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[19:58] <@BC_Programming> well... nearly everybody needs to have a data loss catastrophe, or near catatrophe, before they realize fully the importance of backups
[19:58] <@BC_Programming> guess this was his catastrophe
[19:59] <Craig> yeah...
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