Session Start: Tue Nov 17 00:00:00 2009
Session Ident: #glitchpc
[00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here.'
[00:00] * Set by GlitchPC on Sun Oct 18 01:56:25
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[06:29] <Tux2> !tell jacky my internet is down so I am using my neighbors. it should be back up around 1-5PM MST
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[12:06] <Ashley> hello
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[12:35] <Ashley> hi glitchpc
[12:48] <@GlitchPC> Sorry...was busy
[12:48] <@GlitchPC> Hello Ashley
[12:49] <Ashley> i wont talk cause im making my website
[12:50] <@GlitchPC> Then I won't talk, either...LOL!
[12:50] <Ashley> lol
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[12:59] <Ashley> GlitchPC caqn i ask you a question
[13:00] <@GlitchPC> sure
[13:00] <Ashley> you know php
[13:00] <@GlitchPC> a little...not much
[13:00] <Ashley> in firefox when i right click and click on view page source
[13:01] <Ashley> it shows me all the coding of the site
[13:01] <@GlitchPC> ok
[13:01] <Ashley> and it also shows the php i have embedded into my html site
[13:01] <Ashley> and it shows my connect bit
[13:01] <Ashley> how can i stop that from happening
[13:02] <Ashley> can i do something like <link rel="php">
[13:02] <Ashley> something like that
[13:02] <Ashley> not exactly like that
[13:03] <@GlitchPC> Are you referring to hiding the Page source...or just PHP?
[13:04] <Ashley> hiding the php
[13:04] <@GlitchPC> I'm not sure...but will look into it for ya...
[13:05] <Ashley> ok thanks
[13:06] <Ashley> can i ask you another question ?
[13:07] <@GlitchPC> PHP code shouldn't show in a View Source request...only HTML and java script...as far as I know...I may ne wrong though
[13:07] <@GlitchPC> Go ahead
[13:10] <Ashley> what do meta tags do ?
[13:10] <@GlitchPC> Meta tags are basically used to give robots certain info about the site
[13:11] <@GlitchPC> !g What are meta tags?
[13:12] <@GlitchPC> Does that link help at all?
[13:13] <Ashley> 1 sec ill check it out
[13:25] <@GlitchPC> Also...Ashley...though the following software is not free...it may be something you're looking for...if you want to prevent visitors from stealing info from your site. It's called HTML Guardian and can be found at SnapFiles.com: http://www.snapfiles.com/reviews/HTML_Guardian/htmlguardian.html
[13:26] <@GlitchPC> The problem with trying to prevent users from viewing the source code by using "no right-click" scripts is virtually impossible
[13:26] <@GlitchPC> Most browsers allow this by menus located in their toolbars
[13:27] <@GlitchPC> There are java scripts that prevent this, as well...and some people even use "padding"...which is basically just a bunch of blank lines before the actual code begins
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[13:33] <@GlitchPC> Have to go now...ttyl
[13:33] <@GlitchPC> bye...
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[15:44] <Ashley> camerongray hello
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[15:45] <Ashley> hello everyone
[15:45] <Ashley> how good is wordpress?
[15:45] <@jacky> camerongray: Hello
[15:45] <@jacky> Ashley: Hello
[15:45] <@jacky> Tux2: Hello
[15:46] <Tux2> Hi jacky, see PM
[15:46] <@jacky> got it
[15:47] <Ashley> is wordpress good ?
[15:48] <@jacky> Ashley: I am not familiar with it... sorry, can't say.
[15:48] <Ashley> ok
[15:49] <@jacky> stick around... who knows who might show up
[15:49] <@jacky> :)
[15:50] <camerongray> Hey
[15:50] <camerongray> Ashley: What do you want wordpress for?
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[15:56] <Ashley> well i want to know if its good for making websites
[15:58] <camerongray> no - Only for Blogs really
[15:58] <camerongray> I use "Plone"
[15:58] <Ashley> ok ill just check that out
[15:58] <camerongray> But I heard that Joomla is good too
[15:59] <Ashley> im using dreamweaver at the moment
[16:00] <camerongray> Yeh - Plone is easier because you edit the content through a web browser
[16:00] <camerongray> !seen Craig
[16:01] <camerongray> If you ever see Craig ask about plone - He uses it on his server
[16:02] <Ashley> ok
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[17:12] <@jacky> 
[17:12] <@jacky> be back later
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[17:39] <Tux2> Hi jacky
[17:39] <@jacky> Tux2: Hello
[17:39] <@jacky> still with the dead-ness, eh?
[17:39] <Tux2> lol. Yeah, internet isn't back yet..
[17:40] <@jacky> ah well...
[17:40] <Tux2> I am at work right now....
[17:40] <@jacky> we'll enjoy it all the more, when it does come back
[17:40] <@jacky> saw you come on or off, or nick change, or something
[17:40] <@jacky> a time or two
[17:40] <Tux2> Yup. :D
[17:40] <@jacky> figured
[17:41] <Tux2> Well, my bouncer is on, I just can't access it since I didn't open the ports on my neighbor's router.
[17:41] <@jacky> we should have that last post engraved on a plaque, just to keep
[17:41] <@jacky> heheheh
[17:42] <Tux2> lol
[17:48] <Tux2> Just to say: Don't have this happen to you :DD
[17:49] <@jacky> sure
[17:49] <@jacky> sure....
[17:49] <@jacky> hehehe
[17:49] <@jacky> ya gotta admit... it is funny, when you read it
[17:49] <Tux2> Yeah. :d
[17:49] <Tux2> Everyone is letting me know that my bots are acting kind of restless ;)
[17:50] <Ashley> dreamweaver is soo rubbish
[17:50] <Tux2> I should do a global announcement through them...
[17:50] <@jacky> Tux2: restless? ?
[17:50] <@jacky> meaning..?
[17:51] <@jacky> Ashley: as I recall, that is a complicated html editor program
[17:51] <Tux2> On/off/on/off
[17:51] <@jacky> ah
[17:51] <@jacky> what's causing that? neighbors router sig?
[17:52] <Tux2> That, and they have comcast, comcast does that to torrents, and I guess, to bots too.
[17:52] * Tux2 doesn't like comcast
[17:52] * Tux2 has Qwest...
[17:53] <@jacky> distraction here
[17:53] <@jacky> brb
[17:56] <@jacky> 
[17:56] <@jacky> back
[17:57] <@jacky> how would comcast know a bot was there, though?
[17:57] <@jacky> I can't see a way for them to know...
[17:58] <Tux2> I don't know, maybe by the way it acts...
[17:58] <Tux2> The comcast service fluctuates... I have a friend that has comcast, and his game used to kick him off every few minutes because comcast thought it was a Torrent. :(
[17:58] <@jacky> as long as it is not generating a lot of traffic... for example: set up as a file server bot ... I doubt they'd even know it was there.
[17:59] <Tux2> Yeah, maybe it's just my connection...
[17:59] <@jacky> I'd raise the devil with them, for that
[17:59] <@jacky> I've heard lots of wacky things, about comcast
[17:59] <@jacky> at least now, as I understand it, they don't advertise "unlimited" service, then limit you. They come right out and tell you the monthly Gig limits
[17:59] <Tux2> Yes, I have heard my share about qwest, but I know that if I really need help I can always call my friend that works there. :D
[18:00] <@jacky> that helps, I'm sure. having somebody on the inside...
[18:00] <Tux2> Yeah, never had to user her though.
[18:00] <@jacky> another one to be bronzed, on a plaque
[18:00] <@jacky> hehehe
[18:01] <Tux2> lol.
[18:01] <Tux2> yeah, that came out wrong...
[18:01] <@jacky> this just ain't my day....
[18:01] <@jacky> Rog's server just went down
[18:01] <Tux2> :(
[18:01] <@jacky> happened to be logged in
[18:01] <@jacky> got:
[18:01] <Tux2> And my server is down too...
[18:01] <@jacky> The system is going down for reboot NOW!
[18:01] <Tux2> Ah, you got a wall message.
[18:02] <Tux2> Where is Rog's server?
[18:02] <@jacky> on an individuals machine
[18:02] <@jacky> I'm surprised he leaves it there
[18:02] <@jacky> heheeh
[18:02] <@jacky> we don't particularly caer for each other
[18:02] <Tux2> Oh. So you have to contact the individual...
[18:02] <Tux2> lol. Who is it?
[18:02] <@jacky> I wouldn't even know how to contact him
[18:03] <Tux2> ah
[18:08] <@jacky> got a minute, for a linux question?
[18:08] <Tux2> Sure.
[18:08] <@jacky> shell account
[18:08] <@jacky> slackware
[18:08] <@jacky> created .bashrc
[18:08] <@jacky> doesn't seem to do anything
[18:08] <@jacky> wanted to alias a command or two
[18:08] <@jacky> ideas?
[18:12] <Tux2> Umm... let me see, I have a book about aliases...
[18:12] <@jacky> aliases ain't the prob
[18:13] <Tux2> What's up then?
[18:13] <@jacky> getting the file to run, upon me logging in, is
[18:13] <@jacky> on your server, I believe it does run
[18:13] <@jacky> but, it seems, as I try to read around
[18:13] <@jacky> that .bashrc in the users home dir, is for when one logs in locally
[18:14] <@jacky> and that maybe someting like .bash_profile is for remote logins
[18:14] <@jacky> I'm still digging though
[18:14] <@jacky> I think I got it
[18:14] <@jacky> using .bash_profile now
[18:14] <@jacky> one more log out/ log in
[18:14] <@jacky> brb
[18:15] <Tux2> Cool/
[18:15] <@jacky> ever alias rm, mv, and cp ?
[18:15] <@jacky> to add the -i switch?
[18:15] <@jacky> just for safety's sake?
[18:15] <@jacky> I finally remembered to do this...
[18:16] <Tux2> What's the -i switch?
[18:16] <Tux2> Is that the ask switch?
[18:16] * Tux2 should do that system wide... if it is...
[18:16] <@jacky> ok,
[18:16] <@jacky> I think it is more accurately interactive
[18:17] <Tux2> yes, I am going to set up that alias system wide...
[18:17] <@jacky> but the idea is there
[18:17] <@jacky> double check it first!
[18:17] <@jacky> don't take MY word for it
[18:17] <@jacky> heehehe
[18:18] <Tux2> I did check it...
[18:18] <Tux2> I looked at the man page. :D
[18:18] <@jacky> that'll work
[18:18] <@jacky> I just don't want to be your source
[18:18] <@jacky> heheeh
[18:20] <@jacky> here's what I went with, so far:
[18:20] <@jacky> 
[18:20] <@jacky> alias la="ls -latr"
[18:20] <@jacky> alias rm="rm -i $1"
[18:20] <@jacky> alias mv="mv -i $1"
[18:20] <@jacky> alias cp="cp -i $1"
[18:20] <@jacky> 
[18:20] <@jacky> and it is doing what I want, or seems to.. with brief tests
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[18:25] <Ashley> whats a good html editor
[18:26] <@jacky> I'm not good with html myself
[18:26] <@jacky> have only played with it
[18:26] <@jacky> some folks will tell you to use Notepad, and just do it all by hand
[18:26] <@jacky> :)
[18:26] * Tux2 would tell you that. :D
[18:26] <@jacky> are you looking to buy one, or do you want a free editor ?
[18:30] <@jacky> Ashley: a quick search of my bookmarks, finds:
[18:30] <@jacky> http://www.chami.com/html-kit/
[18:30] <@jacky> no idea if it is a "good" one or not
[18:30] <@jacky> but I believe it is free
[18:30] <@jacky> so.. the price is right
[18:31] <@jacky> if you try it and don't like it.... no $$ lost
[18:31] <@jacky> Ashley: here is another: http://www.crimsoneditor.com/
[18:31] <Tux2> jacky, see PM
[19:21] <Ashley> Tux2
[19:21] <Ashley> on your website
[19:21] <Tux2> Yes Ashley
[19:22] <Ashley> do you have any php on the homepage
[19:22] <Tux2> Yes, I do.
[19:22] <Ashley> what parts
[19:22] <Ashley> the poll ?
[19:23] <Tux2> Yes, the poll.
[19:23] <Ashley> ok
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[19:24] <@jacky> BC_Programming: Hello
[19:24] <@BC_Programming> hello Jacky
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[19:36] <Ashley> anyone know the html coding for when your hover over a button then it changes to another image
[19:36] <Ashley> mouseover thing
[19:37] <@Calum> hi everyone, by the way :)
[19:37] <@Calum> Ashley: I used to....my coding is rusty now though sorry
[19:37] <Tux2> Ashley, that is javascript or CSS
[19:37] <@Calum> ^ that too
[19:37] <@Calum> heh
[19:37] * Tux2 is going to go eat. See you in a little while
[19:38] <@Calum> later Tux
[19:38] <Tux2> !g javascript mouseover
[19:38] <Ashley> css i think
[19:38] <Ashley> no its css
[19:38] <Tux2> Ashley, it can be done either way.
[19:38] <@Calum> I might be wrong but I think it can be done with both
[19:38] <Tux2> !css image mouseover
[19:38] <@Calum> ah...fair enough
[19:38] <@Calum> !g css image mouseover
[19:38] <Tux2> There. :D
[19:38] <@Calum> a useful site - www.dynamicdrive.com
[19:39] <@Calum> CSS, JS and HTML coding for a lot of things
[19:39] <@jacky> Calum: Hello
[19:39] <@Calum> better to code it yourself if possible, but it's a good site to learn from, and to use as a starting point for certain things
[19:39] <@Calum> hey jacky
[19:40] <@Calum> update for you actually, on Chanbot
[19:40] <@Calum> I'm only waiting on one more thing to arrive now, before I re-assign the hardware
[19:40] <@jacky> ok
[19:40] <@Calum> should be here in a week or so
[19:40] <@jacky> cool
[19:40] <@jacky> no changes for approx a week then?
[19:40] <@Calum> that's right
[19:40] <@jacky> we haven't heard from Craig in a while
[19:40] <@jacky> ChanbotII is online,.. np
[19:40] <@jacky> but Craig is not
[19:40] <@jacky> I hope he is ok
[19:41] <@Calum> estimated delivery is 7-10 days, just fyi. When it arrives I'll need to take the hardware offline straight away, as something else that has already arrived needs to be checked out before the returns period passes
[19:41] <@Calum> yeah me too, haven't seen him at all
[19:42] <@jacky> just before you take it off, you wil have time to zip it all up though?
[19:42] <@jacky> have you located everything? so you are ready?
[19:42] <@Calum> sure, I'll zip everything, take the image, etc as I said
[19:42] <@jacky> ah.. you are imaging ... I forget that
[19:43] <@jacky> so you HAVE to get it all.. right?
[19:43] <@Calum> well that way, there's no chance of forgetting anything
[19:43] <@Calum> yes
[19:43] <@jacky> cool
[19:43] <Ashley> what php features should i add to my site ?
[19:43] <@Calum> Ashley: what kind of site is it?
[19:44] <Ashley> erm well computer helping site
[19:44] <Ashley> i want some php features on my homepage
[19:44] <@Calum> is the php just for the sake of it then?
[19:44] <@Calum> sounds like it...
[19:45] <Ashley> i just want to fill my homepage with stuff
[19:45] <Ashley> like recent posts etc
[19:45] <@Calum> you have a forum then?
[19:46] <Ashley> not yet
[19:46] <Ashley> im working on the homepage at the moment
[19:46] <@Calum> I'm more shooting in the dark here ... web coding isn't really my area
[19:46] <Ashley> i only started it today
[19:46] <@Calum> if you're wanting to add info from the forum to other pages though, I'd suggest you look around on the forum developer's site though
[19:47] <Ashley> ok
[19:47] <@Calum> there's usually an active modification community for each forum software package, so their forums should be able to give you the answer if you search around
[19:50] <@Calum> ugh I hate my server....why won't it just install an OS....sigh
[19:50] <@jacky> problems?
[19:50] <@jacky> what's it doing?
[19:50] <@Calum> it's refusing to install any OS that I try, freezing at exactly the same point
[19:50] <@Calum> granted I haven't tried too many yet, but t's discouraging
[19:50] <@Calum> *it's
[19:50] <@jacky> bad hd?
[19:51] <@Calum> nope, HD checks out
[19:51] <@Calum> RAM checks out
[19:51] <@Calum> CDs and CD drive is fine
[19:51] <@Calum> just can't understand what would cause differenty OSes to freeze at exactly the same point
[19:51] <@jacky> on second thought: what did you mean by exactly same point if you are tring different os's.
[19:52] <@Calum> the point just before I get to the partition screen, after it loads the drivers
[19:52] <@Calum> for WIndows, this is
[19:52] <@Calum> the setup is generally the same for each, it freezes at the same point
[19:53] <@jacky> all are Windows then?
[19:53] <@Calum> yes, I could try some version of Linux I guess
[19:53] <@jacky> that's an idea
[19:53] <@jacky> but
[19:53] <@jacky> could it be the partitioning?
[19:53] <@jacky> since it seems to lock, just as it gets there?
[19:53] <@Calum> drive is clean, wiped
[19:53] <@jacky> hmph.
[19:53] <@jacky> thinking....
[19:54] <@Calum> I've found other people with the same problem, but no real solution
[19:54] <@jacky> oh?
[19:54] <@jacky> you've been forum searching?
[19:54] <@Calum> all points to some hardware problems but it checks out...
[19:54] <@Calum> well, Google :)
[19:54] <@jacky> patio is online, but idle for a couple hours....
[19:58] <@jacky> 
[19:58] <@jacky> see you all later
[19:58] <@jacky> bye for now
[19:58] <@jacky> 
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[19:59] <@Calum> anyone still watching here? If so, have you got a few minutes, to go through a problem with me, back to basics, to check I've not missed anything?
[20:01] <Serpent> hi Calum
[20:01] <@Calum> hey serpent
[20:02] <Serpent> may I ask a question abt Err503?
[20:02] <Serpent> umm... how do I solve that... lol
[20:02] <@Calum> 503, on a web page?
[20:03] <@Calum> usually means a server problem, server might be overloaded or not responding
[20:03] <Serpent> F@H client, when trying to transfer the completed unit
[20:03] <@Calum> ahhh ok, hang on a minute
[20:04] <@Calum> yeah it's the same thing, server problem usually. You've been able to submit units before right?
[20:07] <Serpent> sometimes...
[20:08] <Serpent> the same server, I believe
[20:08] <@Calum> if you've submitted a unit before then the problem isn't on your end
[20:08] <Serpent> heh
[20:08] <@Calum> the F@H servers are somewhat unreliable at times
[20:09] <Serpent> but... I want to transmit it... if they are not able to recieve... why do they send the work?
[20:10] <@Calum> they can't always control what hapens with their servers, occaisonally there's just too many people trying to submit at once
[20:10] <@Calum> the client will retry later, so don't worry too much
[20:11] <Serpent> hehe... I do know this answer... the thing is
[20:12] <Serpent> thee server gives and does not recieve biggest units taking most time ... :)
[20:12] <@Calum> heh
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[20:30] <@Calum> hey cameron
[20:31] <camerongray> Hey Calum
[20:31] <camerongray> Just had to reinstall windows
[20:32] <camerongray> For some reason the PC just froze every time I tried to open a program
[20:32] <@Calum> well that's no good
[20:33] <camerongray> heh - yeh
[20:33] <@Calum> working now?
[20:34] <camerongray> Yep
[20:35] <@Calum> cool
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[20:35] <Tux2> Hmm... my bots should be getting on soon...
[20:37] <camerongray> Calum: You said you used Avira - Will the free version work on Server 2008?
[20:38] <@Calum> doubt it, it won't work on Server 03
[20:38] <camerongray> aww
[20:38] <@Calum> what about Comodo?
[20:38] <camerongray> Yeh - I updated it right before the freezing problems
[20:39] <camerongray> I am worried that it will happen again
[20:39] <@Calum> ah, think it's related then?
[20:39] <camerongray> Perhaps
[20:40] <camerongray> I'll update it again - There is no problem reinstalling - Nothing important installed
[20:40] <@Calum> fair enough
[20:41] <@Calum> hehe - this is me http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp168/Gigabyte_2008/Random/sleep-deprived.jpg
[20:41] <Tux2> Okay, get this, my laptop is dying, but I have it plugged in... what gives?
[20:41] <camerongray> hehehe
[20:41] <@Calum> take out the battery, and run it just on AC?
[20:41] <@Calum> see if it helps...
[20:42] <Tux2> Well, guess what, if I ake out the battery now, It will shut off immediately. But it will come on after that.
[20:42] <Tux2> Oh, and I LOVE that picture!
[20:43] <camerongray> same
[20:43] <@Calum> hehe
[20:43] <@Calum> Tux2: I'd expect it to shut off if you take out the battery while it's running, even on AC. But if you power it up without the battery, does it work?
[20:44] <Tux2> Yes.
[20:44] <Tux2> BRB
[20:44] <@Calum> ok
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[20:46] <camerongray> brb
[20:46] <@Calum> ok
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[20:47] <Tux2> Back :D
[20:48] <@Calum> wb
[20:48] <Tux2> I am thinking it might be a bad battery pack.
[20:48] <@Calum> that would be my conclusion, if it works without the battery
[20:48] <Tux2> Because when I power down the laptop when it does this, it will start charging the battery, as soon as you turn it on though, it starts draining it.,
[20:50] <@Calum> has to be either the battery or the AC adapter then, and I'd lean towards the battery myself
[20:50] <Tux2> Yeah, it does it on both AC adapters I have.
[20:50] <@Calum> battery then
[20:50] <@Calum> just in case you needed Captain Obvious (tm) to point that out for you again :)
[20:51] <Tux2> lol
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[20:53] <Tux2> Hi GlitchPC!
[20:53] <@GlitchPC> Hey, bud
[20:53] <Tux2> I have something to tell you...
[20:53] <@Calum> hey boss
[20:53] <Tux2> My internet went down :(
[20:54] <Tux2> I have to wait for the qwest guy to come out and fix our DSL line.
[20:54] <@GlitchPC> Hey, boss
[20:54] <@GlitchPC> Sorry to hear that, Tux2
[20:55] <@GlitchPC> How long before you're back up?
[20:55] <Tux2> So, for now, I am tapping into my neighbor's wireless network 2 houses away.
[20:55] <Tux2> WEll, the qwest guy is coming out around 1PM-5PM so...
[20:55] <Tux2> Thank goodness for my DD-WRT router. :D
[20:56] <@GlitchPC> lol
[20:56] <@GlitchPC> Anything else goin' on around here?
[20:56] <@GlitchPC> Anything earth shattering?
[20:56] <Tux2> I turned up the power on my router just to get the signal...
[20:56] <Tux2> Nope.
[20:56] <@Calum> nothing here in Blighty
[20:57] <@Calum> oh - I'm back on the joe, as of yesterday
[20:57] <@Calum> if that counts
[20:57] <@GlitchPC> What happened?
[20:57] <@GlitchPC> Though you were off the java?
[20:58] <@GlitchPC> Thought*
[20:58] <camerongray> Oh Hi Glitch
[20:58] <@GlitchPC> 'ello Cameron
[20:58] <@Calum> I realised that these energy drinks I liked ... had caffeine in, which was probably why I liked them so much. I don't tend to buy many energy drinks, just happened to pick the only one in the store with caffeine heh
[20:58] <@GlitchPC> What happened, Calum?
[20:58] <@Calum> so I figured there was no need to stay off the coffee any more
[20:58] <@GlitchPC> ahh
[20:58] <@GlitchPC> Sodas too
[20:58] <@Calum> I missed it....sure was nice having my first cup in months
[20:59] <@Calum> some yeah, but I mostly drink water rather than, say, Coke
[20:59] <@GlitchPC> Tasted good, huh?
[20:59] <@Calum> like heaven :)
[20:59] <@GlitchPC> Nectar of the Gods, my friend
[20:59] <@Calum> got the jitters today though, too much coffee + too much sugar, right before work
[20:59] <@Calum> hehehe
[20:59] <@GlitchPC> your body probably has to get used to it again
[21:00] <@Calum> yeah
[21:00] <@GlitchPC> Honestly...I haven't had much coffee...cutting back
[21:00] <@Calum> it's never good to drink too much, I'll keep a close eye on myself to make sure I don't go mad on it again
[21:01] <@GlitchPC> True...too much of a good thing can be bad for ya
[21:01] <@Calum> indeed
[21:01] <@Calum> oh - I posted this earlier, but you'll like this
[21:01] <@Calum> http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp168/Gigabyte_2008/Random/sleep-deprived.jpg
[21:01] <@Calum> brb
[21:02] <@GlitchPC> LOL! Now...that was me...
[21:03] <camerongray> brb - must reboot
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[21:06] <@Calum> thought you'd appreciate that :)
[21:07] <@GlitchPC> I did...
[21:07] <@Calum> a Bluetooth adapter I bought arrived today, it's a "mini" one so I expected it to be small but it really amazed me
[21:07] <@Calum> protrudes about 1/4 of an inch from the USB port!
[21:08] <@Calum> amazing
[21:08] <@GlitchPC> Who makes it?
[21:08] <@Calum> Belkin
[21:08] <@Calum> usually a brand I avoid...
[21:08] <Tux2> GlitchPC, I just found out that it is our modem. :(
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[21:08] <@Calum> wb cameron
[21:08] <Tux2> I need a reccomendation for a good ADSL modem...
[21:08] <@GlitchPC> Are they gonna replace it for ya?
[21:08] <Tux2> One that can ping it's own IP
[21:09] <Tux2> GlitchPC, no, it was out of warranty. :(
[21:09] <@Calum> I had a Linksys WAG200G...combination modem/router, never let me down
[21:09] <Tux2> I had it for less than a year. :(
[21:09] <camerongray> Thanks
[21:09] <Tux2> Thanks Calum :D
[21:09] <@GlitchPC> What was the brand, Tux2?
[21:10] <Tux2> Actiontec M1000
[21:10] <@Calum> there's several versions of it, all pretty similar, but IMO you can't go wrong with Linksys, I only replaced that because I switched to cable
[21:10] <@GlitchPC> Never heard of them
[21:10] <@GlitchPC> ACtintec, that is
[21:10] <@GlitchPC> Actiontec
[21:10] <@Calum> me either
[21:10] <@GlitchPC> Can't go wrong with Linksys
[21:10] <Tux2> Yeah, it's a qwest branded modem...
[21:11] <Tux2> Have you heard of this brand: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0297909
[21:11] <@Calum> Zoom...rings a bell
[21:12] <Tux2> here's an actiontec brand one: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Actiontec+-+ADSL+Modem+with+802.11g+Wireless+Router+and+4-Port+Ethernet+Switch/8661655.p?id=1198888971179&skuId=8661655&st=adsl%20modem&cp=1&lp=1
[21:12] <@Calum> heard of them but nothing more, I couldn't say they're good or bad
[21:12] <Tux2> looks similar to mine.
[21:12] <@GlitchPC> Me neither
[21:13] <Tux2> This is the one I have: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Actiontec+-+Modular+DSL+Router/+Modem/8360098.p?id=1177717702530&skuId=8360098&st=adsl%20modem&cp=1&lp=4
[21:14] <@GlitchPC> Netgear makes some good ones. too: http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WiredRouters/DG834.aspx
[21:14] <@Calum> only networking related products I've had good, as opposed to either bad or neutral, experiences with are Linksys and 3Com
[21:15] <Tux2> I need a store in town that carries one...
[21:15] <@Calum> just my ?0.02
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[21:15] <Tux2> I am in Denver, CO
[21:15] <@GlitchPC> Here's one from Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122316&Tpk=netgear%20modem%20router
[21:16] <Tux2> Yeah, I need it today though. :(
[21:16] <@Calum> I don't know US stores, other than Newegg....sorry
[21:17] <Tux2> Okay. Thanks anyways calum... If I could wait for it I would do newegg too...
[21:17] <@GlitchPC> What stores do you have in your neighborhood?
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[21:19] <Tux2> I have office Depot, MicroCenter, OfficeMax, all the big box stores...
[21:20] <@GlitchPC> For Netgear...here are the retail locations: http://www.netgear.com/WheretoBuy/RetailLocator.aspx
[21:22] <@Calum> http://www.officemax.com/technology/networking-equipment/wireless-networking/product-prod1550118?history=1xfu0a0f|categoryId~10004^categoryName~technology^parentCategoryID~category_root^prodPage~25^region~1@reg3gy6o|categoryId~cat30012^categoryName~networking-equipment^parentCategoryID~cat_10004^prodPage~25^region~1^refine~1@9yq7oy7f|prodPage~15^refine~1^region~1^categoryName~Wireless+Networking^c
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[21:22] <@Calum> wow that's a huge link
[21:22] <@Calum> that's the router I have I think....
[21:22] <Tux2> Calum, try tinyurling it...
[21:22] <Tux2> It's too big...
[21:23] <@Calum> http://tinyurl.com/y8ktwtl
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[21:23] <@Calum> yeah, that's the same as the one I have
[21:23] <Tux2> Calum, do you have cable, or DSL?
[21:24] <@Calum> oh, cable...sorry
[21:24] <@Calum> forgot
[21:24] <Tux2> :D That's fine. :D
[21:24] <Ashley> what is tinyurl
[21:25] <@Calum> doesn't specify on that site though, what is cable and what is ADSL....confusing
[21:25] <@Calum> Ashley: it's a website that can transform a long link, into a short one
[21:25] <Ashley> oh ok
[21:25] <@Calum> see that huge link I posted above? Compare it to the tinyurl link, they go to the same place
[21:26] <@GlitchPC> Gots to go people
[21:26] <@GlitchPC> Have a good one...
[21:26] <@Calum> catch you later boss
[21:26] <@GlitchPC> You, too, boss
[21:26] <@Calum> heh
[21:26] <@GlitchPC> Laterz, Tux2
[21:26] <@GlitchPC> Good luck
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[21:27] <@GlitchPC> Try Wally World...they'll have what you're looking for
[21:27] <Tux2> Thanks GlitchPC :D
[21:27] <Tux2> I found it at a radioshack!
[21:27] <@GlitchPC> kk
[21:27] <@GlitchPC> ttyl
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[21:28] <@Calum> Tux2: link?
[21:29] <Tux2> Oh, hold on...
[21:29] <Tux2> http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3225117
[21:30] <@Calum> ah cool....looks-wise, the same as the one my ISP provided me, for my cable conenction, although obviously it is different
[21:31] <@Calum> well I'm off for tonight now
[21:32] <@Calum> catch you later guys and gals, have a good one
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[22:23] <Ashley> im off people
[22:23] <Ashley> bye
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