Session Start: Sun Nov 15 00:00:00 2009
Session Ident: #glitchpc
[00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here.'
[00:00] * Set by GlitchPC on Sun Oct 18 01:56:25
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[00:17] <Tux2> jacky, are you here?
[00:18] <@jacky> trying to be
[00:18] <@jacky> got a couple convos going
[00:18] <@jacky> are you here for a bit?
[00:18] <@jacky> live, that is?
[00:18] <Tux2> Yes.
[00:18] <Tux2> I just PMed you. YOu can disregard that. :D
[00:20] <@jacky> heh
[00:20] <@jacky> rotating trhough screens
[00:20] <@jacky> whew
[00:20] <@jacky> sorry
[00:20] <Tux2> lol. that's fine. ;)
[00:20] <Tux2> I get that way too sometimes... too many people want to talk to me. ;)
[00:21] <@jacky> (when it rains, it pours though)
[00:21] <Tux2> lol. That's for sure. Right now, it's snowing hard over here.
[00:25] <Tux2> So jacky, what did you want to talk to me about?
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[01:30] <Mulreay> Hello everyone
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[02:58] <@street1> !seen Calum
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[10:44] <Mulreay> Hello everyone
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[14:07] <Mulreay> HI guest_95
[14:08] <guest_95> hello mulreay
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[15:34] <@jacky> Mulreay: Hello
[15:35] <Mulreay> Hi jacky
[15:35] <@jacky> when it rains, it pours
[15:35] <@jacky> yesterday, there for a while, I was doign too much
[15:35] <@jacky> thanks for understanding
[15:35] <Mulreay> heh too true
[15:35] <@jacky> I remember....
[15:35] <@jacky> you ssaid you'd found out what caused the user file problem?
[15:35] <@jacky> that's intersting
[15:35] <@jacky> if you have time
[15:35] <Mulreay> np It's your free time
[15:35] <@jacky> can you tell me about it
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[15:38] <@jacky> BC_Programming: Hello
[15:38] <@BC_Programming> hello :) internet fixed
[15:38] <@BC_Programming> :D
[15:38] <@jacky> cool
[15:39] <@jacky> trying to remember whatever details you'd mentioned....
[15:39] <@jacky> I remember you had problems... that's all
[15:39] <@jacky> what was it?
[15:39] <@jacky> any idea?
[15:39] <Mulreay> Hello everyone
[15:39] <@BC_Programming> I think I know what it was-
[15:39] <@BC_Programming> an inept technician
[15:39] <@jacky> that can do it!
[15:39] <@BC_Programming> I had it working fine, after the move; on my own
[15:40] <@jacky> why was the tech fooling with it then?
[15:40] <@BC_Programming> not sure
[15:40] <@BC_Programming> basically all I needed was the plug they put on
[15:40] <@BC_Programming> probably protocol
[15:41] <@BC_Programming> on the other hand, it did work for a day after his visit, until 4:20AM the next day... so who knows
[15:41] <@jacky> ah
[15:41] <Mulreay> I took the log files and rather than copy them I moved them to another file because they had things from yourself.. how to change script etc.
[15:41] <@jacky> Mulreay: log files are not the user file though
[15:41] <Mulreay> I thought I was backing up some important script oops
[15:42] <Mulreay> Very simple and stupid
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[15:43] <@jacky> live and learn
[15:43] <@jacky> oops
[15:43] <@jacky> poof
[15:43] <@BC_Programming> heh
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[16:38] <@Calum> hey
[16:38] <@jacky> good morning(afternoon)
[16:38] <@jacky> :)
[16:38] <@Calum> good afternoon (morning)
[16:39] <@Calum> feels more like evening here heh
[16:39] <@jacky> oh?
[16:39] <@Calum> dark, miserable day
[16:39] <@jacky> ah
[16:39] <@Calum> tired too
[16:39] <@jacky> we've had it so miserable, that even an overcast day is nice
[16:39] <@Calum> heh
[16:39] <@jacky> at least the wind and rain quit
[16:39] <@jacky> big day?
[16:40] <@Calum> just a long one, been messing around with a random server I picked up
[16:40] <@Calum> learnt a lot, have a lot more still to learn
[16:40] <@jacky> random server?
[16:40] <@jacky> what is random server?
[16:40] <@Calum> a server which a friend just gave to me, a while back
[16:40] <@jacky> ohhh..
[16:40] <@jacky> ok
[16:41] <@jacky> get it running?
[16:41] <@jacky> (how's Glitch? talked to him? )
[16:41] <@Calum> in a sense, yes
[16:41] <@Calum> (haven't for a few days, no)
[16:41] <@jacky> (ok)
[16:41] <@jacky> what os?
[16:41] <@Calum> NT4 Server is installed, I haven't messed with the software yet but I'll be installing Server 03
[16:42] <@BC_Programming> hardware up to W2K3?
[16:42] <@Calum> it is, but I'll be upgrading it anyway
[16:42] <@Calum> have quite a lot to figure out first though
[16:43] <@Calum> took me literally hours to clean it out, the dust and dirt was caked on so thick in places
[16:43] <@Calum> it seems in good shape for the age though, just one HDD was dead
[16:44] <@BC_Programming> how old is it? NT4.... around 95 or so?
[16:45] <@Calum> I'd estimate 99 or so, remember until 2k server there was no other WIndows server OS, although NT4 was released in 96
[16:45] <@jacky> at the hotel, we used NT4 and I think it was new, in fall of '97
[16:48] <@Calum> oh - before I forget, I bought the TV card for the media centre build today. I'd estimate Chanbot will be broken down for that in a week or so
[16:48] <@Calum> I won't forget to take the backups though before I take it down
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[16:50] <@jacky> ok
[16:50] <@jacky> haven't heard from Craig in a while
[16:50] <@jacky> can't reach him...
[16:50] <@jacky> hasn't been here, nor answers email
[16:50] <@jacky> but, ChanbotII is still up
[16:50] <@jacky> I hope he's still ok with it....
[16:51] <@BC_Programming> where is chanbotII? is that craigs?
[16:51] <@Calum> I haven't seen him around either
[16:51] <@BC_Programming> I mean, the machine of course
[16:51] <@jacky> BC_Programming: I believe it is on #testing... do a whois on it
[16:51] <@jacky> BC_Programming: it is the replacement channel bot. It is on Craig's server
[16:51] <@BC_Programming> ahh ok
[16:51] <@jacky> but i'm not sure that answers your question.
[16:52] <@jacky> I see it now
[16:52] <@jacky> it does
[16:52] <@jacky> :)
[16:52] <@jacky> Calum: if possible, keep me posted, as you near it... ok?
[16:52] <@Calum> sure
[17:00] <@Calum> be back soon, food
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[17:15] <@Calum> back
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[17:16] <@jacky> camerongray: Hello
[17:17] <@Calum> hey cameron
[17:18] <camerongray> Hey Guys
[17:18] <camerongray> My connection has been very temprimental today so I might suddenly drop off
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[22:07] <Mulreay> Hello everyone
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[22:15] <Mulreay> Hi jacky
[22:15] <@jacky> Mulreay: Hello
[22:17] <Tux2> Hi jacky
[22:17] <Tux2> :D
[22:17] <@jacky> Tux2: Hello
[22:17] <@jacky> how's it going with you today?
[22:17] <Tux2> Pretty good. I got your memo. :D
[22:17] <@jacky> want to hear about it now?
[22:17] <@jacky> :)
[22:17] <Tux2> Sure.
[22:18] <@jacky> before I forget it... do you still have that eggdrop.conf somewhere?
[22:18] <@jacky> if so.. where do I look?
[22:18] <Tux2> yes, I do.
[22:18] <Tux2> Let me put it into your folder :D
[22:18] <@jacky> it is not critical, but if it is handy, I'll take it
[22:18] <@jacky> tnx
[22:18] <@jacky> so.. today, I started over
[22:18] <@jacky> u/l'd the source
[22:18] <@jacky> compiled, etc
[22:19] <@jacky> got through that and it looked ok
[22:19] <@jacky> quicky config of eggdrop.conf
[22:19] <@jacky> and tried it
[22:19] <@jacky> same thing
[22:19] <@jacky> this time, I slowed down, and paid more attention
[22:19] <@jacky> it was clear that if bot was run normally... that is, in the background... that it was not logging in on the irc server
[22:19] <@jacky> but
[22:20] <@jacky> if it was kept in the fg, then it would log in
[22:20] <@jacky> so.. I went searching for exactly that symtom
[22:20] <@jacky> brb
[22:20] <Tux2> Okay
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[22:21] <@jacky> so.. knowing what to search for, was the key
[22:21] <@jacky> not sure if I ever told you
[22:21] <@jacky> but www.egghelp.org is a great site
[22:21] <@jacky> :)
[22:22] <@jacky> nice forum
[22:22] <@jacky> and a few really knowledgable people
[22:22] <@jacky> I found:
[22:22] <@jacky> http://forum.egghelp.org/viewtopic.php?p=82886&highlight=run+background#82886
[22:22] <@jacky> and did that
[22:22] <@jacky> edited the source code
[22:22] <@jacky> adding one simple line
[22:22] <@jacky> compiled again
[22:22] <@jacky> and ran it
[22:22] <@jacky> presto!
[22:23] <@jacky> I have not pushed it hard to test it... ran out of time... but the one time I tried it, after doing the compile again, it did log in , in normal mode
[22:23] <Tux2> Cool! :D good job.
[22:23] <@jacky> :)
[22:23] <@jacky> all we were doing wrong, was not slowing down and thinking it through
[22:23] <@jacky> heehe
[22:23] <Tux2> lol
[22:24] <@jacky> any particular network that you think would be good?
[22:24] <@jacky> to mess with this on?
[22:24] <@jacky> by the way, are you too going to compile an eggdrop?
[22:24] <Tux2> I might.
[22:25] <@jacky> any particular network?
[22:25] <Tux2> I just copied the old config file into your home directory and chowned it for you.
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[22:25] <Tux2> Umm... I don't really care what network, actually...
[22:25] <@jacky> cool
[22:25] <@jacky> tnx
[22:25] <Tux2> YW
[22:25] <@jacky> heh... we've got new toys, and don't know what to do with them!
[22:25] <@jacky> har
[22:25] <Tux2> lol!
[22:26] <Tux2> Well, this shell server thing is a really good learning experience for me.
[22:26] <@jacky> cool
[22:26] <Tux2> Did you see the folder html_docs?
[22:26] <@jacky> did you check out www.linuxquestions.org forum yet?
[22:26] <@jacky> can't remember if I noticed it or not
[22:26] <@jacky> will log in
[22:26] <Tux2> Yes, I have. Just haven't gotten too far into it.
[22:26] <@jacky> that would be a good place to get advice, like you were asking for
[22:27] <Tux2> Yes, I know, I had just glitched my linux install so bad on my laptop that firefox would shut down my whole system unexpectedly!
[22:27] <@jacky> ouch
[22:28] <Tux2> Yeah... I know what did it though...
[22:28] <@jacky> that's a big step
[22:28] <@jacky> what did it?
[22:29] <Tux2> I compiled some core system files from the source, bad idea. When the next thing of updates came around it caused conflicts. :(
[22:30] <@jacky> I don't think it is a patently "bad idea"
[22:30] <@jacky> I think it just takes some thought, to get things organized, so as to prevent those conflicts
[22:30] <Tux2> Well, bad idea in a precompiled linux distro.
[22:30] <Tux2> yes, exactly jacky
[22:30] <@jacky> what are you running again?
[22:30] <@jacky> can't remember
[22:30] <@jacky> Slackware?
[22:30] <Tux2> Ubuntu
[22:31] <@jacky> I see it now
[22:31] <Tux2> Although I am trying to get gentoo working on one computer.
[22:31] <@jacky> somebody is running Slack... can't remember who
[22:31] <@jacky> gentoo is if you know what you are doing, or so I've read
[22:31] <@jacky> Slack is supposed to be excellent if you really want to learn linux
[22:31] <Tux2> jacky, that folder is a personal web folder, that will be able to be accessed from home.jrtechsupport.com/~jacky
[22:31] <@jacky> again... from what I've read
[22:31] <Tux2> Once I get it set up. :D
[22:32] <@jacky> cool
[22:32] <@jacky> don't rush, for me
[22:32] <@jacky> trust me
[22:32] <@jacky> heheeh
[22:32] <Tux2> lol. I know. I am not rushing. :D
[22:32] <Tux2> I just thought I would let you know.
[22:32] <@jacky> cool
[22:33] <Tux2> If you put anything in that folder, I can see it on my network...
[22:33] <Tux2> So, for your bot, you could put logs, etc. in that folder.
[22:33] <@jacky> sorry... I don't have anything
[22:34] <@jacky> oh.. logs
[22:34] <@jacky> haven't even fiddled with them yet
[22:34] <@jacky> did a super fast run through of eggdrop.conf
[22:34] <@jacky> heheehe
[22:34] <@jacky> besides... on other networkds, I don't even have any chans to follow, in mind
[22:34] <@jacky> yet
[22:34] <Tux2> lol
[22:35] <@jacky> have you ever run an eggdrop yourself?
[22:38] <Tux2> Umm... not really, except for yesterday.
[22:39] <@jacky> oh.. heheh
[22:39] <@jacky> that wasn't anything
[22:39] <Tux2> lol. I know. ;)
[22:39] <@jacky> here...
[22:39] <@jacky> log on freenode real quick
[22:39] <@jacky> will you be tux2?
[22:39] <Tux2> Yup.
[22:40] <Tux2> As long as the name is available
[22:40] <Tux2> On :D
[22:40] <Tux2> Tux2
[22:40] <@jacky> get the invite?
[22:40] <Tux2> Yup.
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