Session Start: Mon Jan 21 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[00:00] * Set by jacky on Tue Mar 02 11:03:23
[00:00]<@BC_Programming> Also my project is now approved and I got a few comments and downloads so far
[00:00]<+Tux2> lol, that would be epic on the tekkit server
[00:00]<+Tux2> Oh? Awesome!
[00:00]<@BC_Programming> well 8 downloads
[00:00]<@BC_Programming> I made the description a lot shorter, lol
[00:01]<+Tux2> lol, post the readme.txt in a separate page
[00:01]<+Tux2> Most users are too stupid to look in the jar for a readme
[00:01]<@BC_Programming> lol ok
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[01:38]<@BC_Programming> if my plugin get's to 50 dl's I'll put the donate thing on it
[02:26]<+Craig> :)
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[03:07]<@BC_Programming> aww I thought I could speed up baseblock by just swapping out a foreach with a Parallel.foreach()
[03:07]<@BC_Programming> but it goes slower that way :P
[03:09]<@BC_Programming> time to finally write this stupid Entity Editor class that I've been dreading for a week or so
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[13:44]<+camerongray> I knew computer hope was going downhill but wow
[13:46]<+camerongray> Would be a real shame to stop going to the channel but I am tempted
[13:47]<Magiobiwan> I don't know why I still go there
[13:47]<Magiobiwan> If patio were to go away, it would be much better
[13:47]<+camerongray> Yeah, I've hung around since 2009 would be a real shame to leave
[13:47]<+camerongray> It really helped my interest in computers and probably built me up to what I do now
[13:48]<+camerongray> But some members are idiots
[13:48]<Magiobiwan> Yeah
[13:49]<+camerongray> Do you know what patio even does?
[13:51]<+camerongray> I'm no expert but when a server sits at 10gb RAM used but with like 10% CPU, upgrading the RAM makes sense :P
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[14:09]<+camerongray> Well, that's really thrown my concentration off, great!
[14:09]<+Craig> :P
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[14:09]<+camerongray> hey Craig
[14:10]<+Craig> What are you babbling on about up there? And hello :P
[14:10]<+camerongray> patio is a *beeping* *beep* *beepidy* *beep*
[14:10]<+Craig> ?
[14:10]<+camerongray> In the sense that he thinks he knows everything and tries to belittle me :P
[14:11]<+camerongray> And db100457 who I used to chat to quite a bit
[14:11]<+Craig> Hmmm
[14:12]<+Craig> Interesting, so why do you let him do it?
[14:12]<+camerongray> I don't, told him to stop
[14:12]<+camerongray> Annoyingly I've restarted so lost the convo
[14:12]<+camerongray> Tempted to stop hanging out in CH but there are quite a few people Iike to chat to, like Quantos
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[14:13]<+Craig> So stay there, but drop the subject
[14:13]<+camerongray> Yeah, I am
[14:13]<+camerongray> But it's just annoying
[14:13]<+Craig> Tell him that you are not interested in debating his solution, its up to the end user to choose their answer.
[14:13]<+camerongray> Nah, not that
[14:14]<+camerongray> Talking about my server
[14:14]<+camerongray> Seems as though I know nothing about servers
[14:15]<+camerongray> If I said to you "I wish I could run my server in the UK but datacenters don't allocate enough power, I get 2amps in the US but only 0.4 in the UK" would you go "Oh, that's a pain" or "Datacenters don't get power off the grid" "This is all going over your head" and such
[14:16]<+camerongray> Then putting "" around server when referring to my server
[14:16]<+camerongray> And things like "How many servers to you "manage""
[14:16]<+camerongray> do*
[14:17]<+Craig> That is actually going over my head, why would you only get 2 ams?
[14:17]<+camerongray> Probably so I don't stick in a stupidly power hungry server and pull a lot of power
[14:17]<@Mulreay> I've not always got on with Patio.. a few years ago we were at logger heads but now we have a mutual respect and are very polite to each other
[14:18]<+camerongray> Yeah, he's being a *bleep* to me
[14:18]<+camerongray> And db100457 who I quite liked
[14:18]<@Mulreay> Shame because he is 'in my circles' a really nice guy
[14:18]<+Craig> Oh right your on 220V right
[14:18]<+Craig> so thats 440W or about that anyway
[14:19]<+Craig> Alright, so thats not that bad
[14:19]<+camerongray> 120v :P - Server is in the US
[14:19]<+camerongray> Still 440w :P
[14:19]<+Craig> no 120v * 2a is only 240w
[14:19]<+camerongray> Derp!
[14:20]<+camerongray> Yeah, my brain is broken :P
[14:20]<+Craig> :P
[14:20]<+Craig> All of my servers use from 300 - 500w
[14:20]<+camerongray> I don't think it's peak though
[14:20]<+camerongray> Mine has 50w Xeons
[14:21]<+Craig> so thats 100 w just for the processors, thats around 2-300 watts just for the hardware
[14:22]<+Craig> running at peak for the harddrives and ram and everything else.
[14:22]<+camerongray> yeah
[14:22]<+camerongray> It's cheap colo
[14:22]<Magiobiwan> Patio is just a jerk in general
[14:22]<+camerongray> I could probably pay for moew
[14:22]<+camerongray> more*
[14:22]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:23]<+camerongray> What was DB's comment about if I run hundreds of servers around the world? :P
[14:23]<+camerongray> Running 1 box as a hobby and a bunch for work is hardly a bad thing
[14:23]<@Mulreay> Do you not have a log file?
[14:23]<+camerongray> Nah
[14:24]<@Mulreay> what are you using?
[14:24]<+camerongray> Colloquy, Mac client
[14:24]<@Mulreay> ahh
[14:24]<+camerongray> It does log but I don't have that on
[14:24]<+camerongray> I mean, I haven't worked in IT for 10+ years but I do have enough knowledge to go "Oh, I think the server needs more RAM"
[14:25]<+Craig> :P
[14:25]<+camerongray> According to them, no server needs more than 12gb RAM
[14:25]<@Mulreay> my income on adsense has taken a nose dive
[14:25]<Magiobiwan> Heh
[14:25]<+camerongray> Even if it does run tonnes of VMs
[14:26]<Magiobiwan> The servers I sort of manage have 16GB RAM each
[14:26]<@Mulreay> I'm sure they changed something
[14:26]<Magiobiwan> One has 128GB
[14:26]<+camerongray> Nice!
[14:26]<+camerongray> I'd love to play with that :P
[14:26]<Magiobiwan> I tried tossing an MC server on a VM on that
[14:26]<+Craig> I have 32GB ram, any server I run is going to be stupid overpowered like my current ones with 4cores and 8gb ram with Linux. :P
[14:26]<+camerongray> And "Throwing more RAM won't work, you'll be stretching out your CPU"
[14:26]<Magiobiwan> With 8GB of that RAM, but the CPUs in that beast node are
[14:26]<+Craig> In my current machine I mean, I have 32GB ram.
[14:26]<Magiobiwan> 4x Opterons
[14:26]<+camerongray> Because my CPU running at 10% is going to be stretched :P
[14:27]<Magiobiwan> So it has 64 cores
[14:27]<+camerongray> awesome!
[14:27]<+Craig> 4xOpterons at what number of cores?
[14:27]<+camerongray> Mine is 2x Xeon L5420 so 8 cire
[14:27]<+camerongray> 
[14:27]<+camerongray> core*
[14:27]<Magiobiwan> Well, 64 cores total
[14:27]<Magiobiwan> Divide 64 by 4
[14:27]<+Craig> 4 x16 cores are like 4000 in total.
[14:27]<+Craig> 4000$
[14:27]<+Craig> I eman
[14:27]<+Craig> mean*
[14:27]<Magiobiwan> It was a spendy one
[14:27]<Magiobiwan> Rented though
[14:27]<+Craig> Ahhh
[14:28]<+Craig> I am running two phenoms and an FX in my main computer.
[14:28]<+Craig> :P
[14:28]<Magiobiwan> But, AMD CPUs aren't super good at MC
[14:28]<+Craig> My media machine has 8GB ram and 6Cores. :P
[14:28]<Magiobiwan> It's odd.
[14:28]<+Craig> Minecraft?
[14:28]<Magiobiwan> Yah
[14:28]<+camerongray> I wonder what Patio/db do as a job, do they actually manage huge server networks or are they just playing it big :P
[14:29]<Magiobiwan> We're moving all the servers to different datacenters
[14:29]<Magiobiwan> And we're getting new E3's and E5's with 32GB RAM each
[14:29]<+camerongray> nice!
[14:29]<+camerongray> You should get UK nodes!
[14:29]<Magiobiwan> It's on the list of things to do
[14:29]<Magiobiwan> But it'll be a bit.
[14:29]<+camerongray> Nice
[14:29]<+camerongray> Edinburgh :P
[14:29]<+camerongray> Nice and fast for me!
[14:30]<Magiobiwan> We could use Staff member's Basements Datacenters
[14:30]<Magiobiwan> :P
[14:30]<Magiobiwan> But, moving about...
[14:30]<+camerongray> lol
[14:30]<Magiobiwan> 3k VPSes will be fun
[14:30]<+camerongray> There's a few DCs in Edinburgh
[14:30]<+camerongray> A lot of IT stuff around
[14:30]<+camerongray> here*
[14:31]<+camerongray> There are 3 that I know
[14:31]<+camerongray> of*
[14:31]<+camerongray> Not bad for a small city
[14:32]<+camerongray> And I remember being asked if we "had internet in Scotland"
[14:32]<@Mulreay> Still snowing there camerongray?
[14:33]<+Craig> Bahahahahah thats awesome
[14:33]<+camerongray> Yep, heavy
[14:33]<+camerongray> I know, some people are clueless
[14:33]<+Craig> Manitoba in some area's doesnt have 3G :P
[14:33]<+Craig> Actually, lots of area's... :S
[14:33]<@Mulreay> !w manchester uk
[14:33]<+camerongray> Was also asked "Is Scotland in Europe?"
[14:34]<+camerongray> I was more shocked than anything, didn't know how to reply
[14:34]<+Craig> :P'
[14:34]<@Mulreay> I got told once 'you can't be from the UK your European' and also 'where is Europe is it near Africa?'
[14:34]<+camerongray> "Yeah, and we have these amazing things called TVs, you can see moving pictures in your own home"
[14:35]<+camerongray> or I could have stared blankly
[14:35]<+camerongray> A friend and I confused the hell out of an american guy at uni today, Need to remember to talk properly :P
[14:36]<+camerongray> "Oh, so it wheechs it aroond and dints it a bit"
[14:36]<+camerongray> Mulreay: What's the snow like where you are?
[14:36]<@Mulreay> It's now slush.. nothing major
[14:36]<+camerongray> Ahh, good few inches here
[14:37]<+camerongray> Craig: Don't laugh!
[14:37]<+Craig> :P
[14:37]<@Mulreay> My Mum and Dad in London are getting hit hard.. been snowing for two days there non stop
[14:37]<+camerongray> Norwegian guy at uni was laughing at us, "You just can't cope with a tiny bit snow"
[14:38]<+camerongray> Then there was the Indian guy who said that he finds 20c cold!
[14:39]<@Mulreay> The thing people 'don't get' is we deal badly with this stuff because we have to deal with 30c summers and -15c winters.. not mant places on Earth that have that issue
[14:40]<@Mulreay> many*
[14:40]<+camerongray> lol
[14:40]<+camerongray> Or how quickly it changes
[14:40]<@Mulreay> exactly
[14:40]<+camerongray> Last year, one week I was having a BBQ, next week it was snowing
[14:40]<+camerongray> Seriously!
[14:41]<+Craig> Uhhh we deal with -50c winters at times, and 45c summers at times...
[14:42]<+camerongray> Okay :P
[14:42]<+camerongray> We just can't cope
[14:42]<sonicrules1234> Craig: Where do you live again?
[14:42]<@Mulreay> We can cope we just do it grudgingly
[14:43]<@Mulreay> red deer canada sonicrules1234
[14:43]<+camerongray> sonicrules1234: Where are you?
[14:43] * sonicrules1234 writes down to never ever go to red deer, canada
[14:43]<sonicrules1234> camerongray: Long Beach, California
[14:43]<+Craig> Canada
[14:43]<+camerongray> lol, bit warmer there then
[14:43]<sonicrules1234> Weather here is very mild compared to other places
[14:43]<@Mulreay> sonicrules1234 ever been in a 'gangsta rap' video?
[14:44]<sonicrules1234> No
[14:44]<+camerongray> lol, is that the UK stereotype of Americans? :P
[14:44]<sonicrules1234> I don't think I even know what that is
[14:44]<@Mulreay> It's synonymous with rap videos in the UK
[14:45]<+camerongray> Bit like people thinking I run around in a kilt eating haggis :P
[14:45]<@Mulreay> You don't? camerongray
[14:45]<+camerongray> not at the same time :P
[14:45]<@Mulreay> lol
[14:45]<sonicrules1234> xD
[14:45]<+camerongray> But burns night is coming...
[14:46]<sonicrules1234> A week or two ago it was pretty cold here
[14:46]<sonicrules1234> Now its hot
[14:47]<@Mulreay> Like all people think I have bad teeth and I owe the world an apology for the fact we took over a lot of the world
[14:48]<sonicrules1234> Oh yeah, and it never snows here :(
[14:48]<+camerongray> lol!
[14:49]<@Mulreay> 'You're english you don't have a say in this' is one.. I respond with 'why?' 'Everyone hates the English'.. can't really respond to that
[14:49]<+camerongray> lol, Everyone loves the scots!
[14:49]<+camerongray> Well, apart from the English
[14:49]<@Mulreay> lol
[14:49]<+camerongray> But everyone hates them so that's okay
[14:50]<+camerongray> :P
[14:50]<sonicrules1234> xD
[14:50]<+camerongray> Was going to my school prom in a kilt, got stopped by 2 american tourists and 1 Chinese tourist for a photo
[14:50]<@Mulreay> I like the scots.. a little more than the welsh.. To be fair the welsh hold the UK back when it comes to cool
[14:50]<+camerongray> And I am horrible at photos
[14:51]<sonicrules1234> camerongray: Haha
[14:52]<@Mulreay> Scotland is on my 'to do' list.. still never been
[14:52]<+camerongray> Quite disturbing that fact that there is a photo in someone I don't know's album of me looking like an idiot
[14:52]<+camerongray> wow
[14:52]<@Mulreay> Have you been to England camerongray? actually while typing I remember you have
[14:53]<+camerongray> yeah, LOADS of times
[14:54]<+camerongray> Never been to Canada, would like to go though
[14:56]<@Mulreay> me too
[14:57]<@Mulreay> I did get invited but the plane was about £800 or so.. very expensive
[14:59]<+camerongray> yeah
[14:59]<+camerongray> I really like it here
[15:00]<+camerongray> LOADS of jobs in IT
[15:00]<@Mulreay> I was hoping to go to Craig's wedding and then travel across country to bother BC_Programming and may be watch some bears and possums
[15:00]<+camerongray> lol
[15:01]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, did you send BC his package?
[15:02]<+Craig> :P
[15:02]<+camerongray> Although he has now tried Irn Bru
[15:03]<@Mulreay> Sadly no, I still have the stuff here.. his living became very eratic so held off
[15:03]<+camerongray> yeah, good plan
[15:05]<@Mulreay> If the new plan works with PITB then I can give him the cheese bags by hand
[15:17]<+camerongray> PITB?
[15:29]<@Mulreay> www.pixelsintheblood.com
[15:33]<+camerongray> oh, you're planning something :P
[15:38]<@Mulreay> Indeed, it's either going to be big or fall on it's ass.. but with the backing of some people on here we can make it work
[15:42]<+camerongray> care to explain more?
[15:44]<@Mulreay> Hard to explain.. the kickstarter is being set up with the help of Craig but the general idea is simple. A LAN party gaming company.
[15:45]<+camerongray> agh, nice
[15:45]<+camerongray> So, like you provide hardware?
[15:46]<@Mulreay> yes, we provide a place for gamers to come together and fight it out... that is the base version
[15:47]<+camerongray> awesome!
[15:47]<@Mulreay> But it's more than that
[15:47]<+camerongray> HMV do something like that, but not for much longer!
[15:49]<@Mulreay> We will have streams and local places to watch games. Again it's hard to explain but would be happy if you got involved if we make it work.
[15:49]<+camerongray> nice, would love to
[15:50]<+camerongray> Need any hardware/servers/websites/web-apps :P
[15:52]<@Mulreay> Yes exactly, we will need that support. But first we need to get the kickstarter finished and we need to have a common goal. All 'staff' will be paid through the kickstarter. You will all have contracts that allow you money as long as it dosen't hurt the company.
[15:54]<+camerongray> nice!
[15:54]<@Mulreay> Like I say it's in it's infancy and should be viewed as such
[15:54]<+camerongray> Obviously I'm not a gamer and busy with uni/work but I'd love to do web/hardware stuff
[15:55]<@Mulreay> I would love to have your input on the project.
[15:58]<@Mulreay> Will keep you informed
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[16:11]<Ackroyd> !kick Nat
[16:12]<Ackroyd> !k Nat
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[16:17]<+camerongray> lol!
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Session Start: Mon Jan 21 18:00:10 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [18:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[18:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[19:38]<@BC_Programming> Cave story's boss music is stuck in my head now
[19:50]<Nat> cave story has such catchy music
[19:51]<@BC_Programming> indeed
[20:02]<lucifer> is it bad when the usgs does no include python with a script that needs python and doesnt tell you
[20:03]<@BC_Programming> usgs?
[20:03]<lucifer> united states geological survey
[20:03]<lucifer> trying to get terrain maps for a project im working on
[20:05]<lucifer> facedesk
[20:05]<lucifer> *facedesk*
[20:05]<Nat> it shoudl tell you
[20:05]<Nat> but it doesn't need to provide it
[20:05]<lucifer> it didnt ....
[20:07]<lucifer> http://mibpaste.com/dAM0e6
[20:08]<Nat> that's bizzare
[20:08]<Nat> but i expect this from a government funded agency
[20:09]<lucifer> screw it .... tommorrows another day
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