Session Start: Wed Jun 29 00:00:00 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[06:05]<+Mulreay> Herro
[06:59]<+Mulreay> 'Better than wolves' Mod is awesome
[07:00]<+Mulreay> Thought I'd spelt awesome wrong then... turns out it was some fluff on my screen
[07:34]<+Mulreay> hey jacky
[07:34]<+Mulreay> oops preempted
[07:34]<@BC_Programming> wha
[07:35]<+Mulreay> hey BC_Programming
[07:35]<@BC_Programming> that's better
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[07:36]<+Mulreay> hey jacky
[07:36]<+Mulreay> part II :P
[07:37]<+Mulreay> BC_Programming that pony fighting game looks cool
[07:37]<@BC_Programming> heh yeah that is so random eh
[07:37]<@jacky> Mulreay: Hello
[07:37]<@jacky> BC_Programming: Hello
[07:37]<+Mulreay> definately
[07:37]<@BC_Programming> half mortal combat, half friendship
[07:37]<+Mulreay> heh
[07:37]<@BC_Programming> they should call it mortal friendship or something
[07:37]<+Mulreay> ha
[07:38]<@BC_Programming> I added a pony related easter egg to BaseBlock's splash screen too, heh
[07:38]<+Mulreay> cool
[07:38]<+Mulreay> working again?
[07:38]<@BC_Programming> oh BaseBlock?
[07:38]<@BC_Programming> yeah fixed that
[07:38]<+Mulreay> yep
[07:38]<+Mulreay> cool
[07:38]<@BC_Programming> just took a break for a while and came back later and planned it out rather then just hacking about until it works like I was trying to do
[07:39]<+Mulreay> yeah, better method
[07:40]<+Mulreay> Jacky need some advise if your free in a bit
[07:40]<@jacky> from me? desperate, huh?
[07:40]<@jacky> <g>
[07:40]<+Mulreay> very heh
[07:40]<@jacky> you didn't HAVE to agree with me!!
[07:40]<@jacky> hehehehe
[07:40]<@jacky> 
[07:40]<@jacky> what's up?
[07:40]<+Mulreay> lol
[07:41]<+Mulreay> Still can't get incith weather working... it's active in *.chaninfo and the bot has id loaded... just no responses from the command
[07:42]<@jacky> any errors appearing in partyline?
[07:42]<+Mulreay> nope
[07:42]<@jacky> what version of incith weather? ( going to check the version here... brb )
[07:42]<+Mulreay> It's the latest
[07:42]<@jacky> wait... it DOES still work here, right?
[07:42]<@jacky> !w crapo
[07:43]<+Mulreay> Re-downloaded it yesterday and re-installed it
[07:43]<+Mulreay> No need to rub my nose in it :p
[07:44]<+Mulreay> <Dangerbot> User defined channel flags:
[07:44]<+Mulreay> <Dangerbot> +weather +acronym +google
[07:44]<@jacky> 
[07:44]<+Mulreay> google works
[07:44]<@jacky> is this your version number? : incith:weather v2.8r #
[07:44]<+Mulreay> one sec
[07:44]<@jacky> ok
[07:44]<@jacky> that's copied right from the first line of the script used here....
[07:46]<+Mulreay> v2.8p
[07:46]<@jacky> I wonder if that's the problem
[07:46]<+Mulreay> mmm yeah
[07:46]<+Mulreay> tested on Eggdrop v1.6.18
[07:46]<@jacky> I wonder where I got this one
[07:46]<@jacky> heh
[07:46]<@jacky> do you mean 1.6.19 ?
[07:47]<+Mulreay> I downloaded the one on the main page... must be a new one hidden or something
[07:47]<@jacky> I'm checking the thread on the forum now
[07:47]<@jacky> gut feeling
[07:47]<@jacky> that I would have followed a link from that thread
[07:47]<+Mulreay> I got this one
[07:47]<+Mulreay> http://www.egghelp.org/tclhtml/3478-4-0-0-1-weather.htm
[07:47]<+Mulreay> incith
[07:48]<@jacky> wow... he's up to 2.9a now
[07:48]<+Mulreay> ahh
[07:48]<@jacky> http://forum.egghelp.org/viewtopic.php?t=10466&start=165
[07:48]<+Mulreay> should have checked the forum... didn't think
[07:48]<@jacky> and see the last post Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011
[07:49]<@jacky> If I were you, I'd start there.... grab a new version, and install, and start over from there, and see what happens
[07:49]<+Mulreay> awesome will try that now... thx
[07:49]<@jacky> cool
[07:49]<@jacky> I hope that is all it takes
[07:49]<@jacky> :)
[07:49]<+Mulreay> I assume I should keep the incith-weather-2.8o-2.8p.diff file?
[07:50]<@jacky> I wouldn't assume anything
[07:50]<@jacky> I'd do whatever it says, in the new one that you download
[07:50]<@BC_Programming> assuming makes an ass out of u and some guy named Ming
[07:50]<+Mulreay> I should probably read it then
[07:52]<@jacky> nice fella... good ol' Ming
[07:52]<+Mulreay> There appears to be no mention of that file
[07:53]<@jacky> cool
[07:53]<+Mulreay> well we will soon find out when I restart the bot and smoke starts coming out of his ears
[07:53]<@jacky> GO FOR IT!
[07:53]<@jacky> love your style!!!
[07:53]<@jacky> damn the torpedoes
[07:53]<@jacky> full speed ahead!
[07:54]<@jacky> :)
[07:54]<+Mulreay> lol
[07:56]<+Mulreay> re-starting
[07:56]<@jacky> what channel are you testing in?
[07:56]<+Mulreay> BOOM!
[07:56]<@jacky> is this Dangerbot?
[07:56]<@jacky> hehehe
[07:57]<@jacky> phone is ringing... be back asap
[07:57]<@jacky> sorry
[07:57]<+Mulreay> OK it's working... kinda... slow as hell
[07:59]<@jacky> ?
[08:00]<+Mulreay> mmm
[08:00]<@jacky> what channel are you testing in?
[08:00]<@jacky> is this Dangerbot?
[08:00]<+Mulreay> yep
[08:00]<+Mulreay> I may need HTTP 2.3...
[08:00]<@jacky> ?
[08:00]<+Mulreay> whatever that means
[08:01]<@jacky> ?
[08:02]<+Mulreay> All I get is <&Dangerbot> Mulreay's weather request
[08:02]<+Mulreay> And that's ya lot
[08:02]<@jacky> sigh
[08:02]<@jacky> 
[08:02]<@jacky> what
[08:02]<@jacky> channel
[08:02]<@jacky> are
[08:03]<@jacky> you
[08:03]<@jacky> testing
[08:03]<@jacky> in
[08:03]<@jacky> ?
[08:03]<+Mulreay> You could have just as easily said all that on one line you know
[08:03]<@jacky> I already did
[08:03]<@jacky> twice
[08:03]<+Mulreay> Yeah was distracted looking at the bot
[08:03]<@jacky> ok
[08:03]<+Mulreay> in #spaceandscience
[08:03]<@jacky> tnx
[08:33]<+Mulreay> <~Mulreay> Sorry Jacky was doing my ap:codes... very rude, I should have said... sorry bud
[08:33]<@jacky> oh
[08:33]<@jacky> there you are
[08:34]<@jacky> ap?
[08:34]<+Mulreay> You left as I said it
[08:34]<@jacky> that takes just a moment
[08:34]<+Mulreay> for you
[08:34]<@jacky> I copy n paste
[08:34]<@jacky> faster, and prevents typos
[08:34]<@jacky> :)
[08:34]<@jacky> and... you haven't done it yet anyway
[08:35]<@jacky> that's why I said, What's Up?
[08:35]<+Mulreay> I have done it
[08:36]<@jacky> it appears to be unchanged
[08:36]<@jacky> not sure what you are changing.....
[08:39]<+Mulreay> Working it out for myself bud... need to practise
[08:40]<@jacky> ok
[08:40]<@jacky> let me know when you need a hint
[08:40]<@jacky> :)
[08:41]<+Mulreay> Oh ye of little faith :p
[08:41]<@jacky> (if you work it out yourself, like you are doing, you are more apt to remember it though. :) )
[08:44]<@jacky> 
[08:44]<@jacky> Bad bot!
[08:44]<@jacky> Die
[08:44]<@jacky> DIE!!!!
[08:44]<@jacky> 
[08:44]<@jacky> hehehe
[08:44]<+Mulreay> lol
[08:45]<+Mulreay> I'm goona give them both a seperate script each for everything... but That will take quite a while... another 'to-do' on the list
[08:45]<@jacky> for now though
[08:45]<@jacky> just turn it off, on one
[08:45]<@jacky> and get it working to suit you on the one that is On
[08:49]<+Mulreay> Yeah, no more time at the moment... I was suposed to be phoning someone about a job 20mins ago... will work on it in a bit... Thanks for the help though.. always appreciated
[08:50]<+Mulreay> Only wanted to fix weather which we did (thx)... always the way... fix one problem to create another :p
[08:50]<@BC_Programming> wee got Delphi Prism working in Visual Studio 2008
[08:50]<@BC_Programming> totally pointless since I barely know delphi but it was a huge pain
[08:51]<@jacky> Mulreay: cool
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[08:52]<Chosen> Hello!
[08:52]<Chosen> Anyone online?
[08:52]<@jacky> No
[08:52]<@jacky> we can't see you
[08:52]<@jacky> heheheh
[08:52]<@jacky> Chosen: Hello
[08:52]<Chosen> HEh.
[08:52]<@BC_Programming> No, nobody here
[08:52]<@BC_Programming> just us nobodies
[08:52]<Chosen> BC, I have a question about C++, again.
[08:52]<@jacky> that's right... I forgot... BC_Programming is not here either
[08:52]<Chosen> Something really simple though.
[08:52]<@BC_Programming> K
[08:53]<@BC_Programming> to both
[08:53]<@BC_Programming> heh
[08:53]<Chosen> !x==1 is the same thing as x!=1
[08:53]<Chosen> Right?
[08:53]<@BC_Programming> no
[08:53]<Chosen> Oh.
[08:54]<@BC_Programming> !(x==1) would be the same as x!=1
[08:54]<Chosen> Ah, of course.
[08:54]<Chosen> Okay, thanks.
[08:54]<Chosen> That's all I wanted to know.
[08:54]<@BC_Programming> heh ok
[08:55]<@jacky> We aim to please
[08:55]<@jacky> drop a nickel in the box by the door, please
[08:55]<@jacky> :)
[08:56]<+Mulreay> lol
[08:56]<Chosen> What/
[08:56]<Chosen> *?
[08:56]<+Mulreay> I'm on hold
[08:56]<@jacky> you can't do that, Mulreay. You're not here. Nobody is here, remember??
[08:56]<@jacky> heheeh
[08:56]<Chosen> Gah.
[08:56]<+Mulreay> oh yeah...oooooo I'm a ghost
[08:56]<Chosen> I hope this won't turn into a running gag...
[08:56]<@jacky> Chosen: too late
[08:57]<Chosen> D:
[08:57]<@jacky> BC_Programming caught a running hag once though
[08:57]<@jacky> ask him about it
[08:57]<+Mulreay> heh
[08:57]<Chosen> Heh.
[08:57]<+Mulreay> She's phoning back
[08:57]<Chosen> What's a 'running hag'?
[08:57]<Chosen> BC?
[08:58]<@jacky> Mulreay: you have a hag too? she's calling you back?
[08:58]<Chosen> xD
[08:58]<+Mulreay> yep
[08:58]<@jacky> oh
[08:58]<@jacky> ok
[08:58]<@jacky> just checking
[08:58]<Chosen> Did he say something along the lines of 'hag'?
[08:58]<@jacky> Chosen: you did
[08:58]<@jacky> at least it rhymed
[08:58]<Chosen> Oh.
[08:59]<Chosen> I didn't say something about a hag... I said 'gag'.
[08:59]<Chosen> Also... http://www.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/9/16/128660865291477085.jpg&imgrefurl=http://cheezburger.com/View/1039792384&usg=__A8wwYGS4n8KCQ_iKyWjv16Tqkew=&h=352&w=419&sz=19&hl=nl&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=DTINi8d8R22BqM:&tbnh=131&tbnw=184&ei=Qz4LTqaVM8aUOtjm9K8B&prev=/search%3Fq%3DOH%2BTEH%2BNOES%26um%3D1%26h
[08:59]<Chosen> Gaj/
[08:59]<Chosen> Sorry.
[08:59]<Chosen> I thought the URL was shorter.
[08:59]<Chosen> Will TinyURL it next time.
[08:59]<@jacky> see? it rhymes... when deep into a session of BS, a rhyme is close enough
[08:59]<@jacky> :)
[08:59]<Chosen> Oh.
[08:59]<Chosen> Hmm.
[09:00]<Chosen> I'm going back to C++, if you don't mind.
[09:00]<@jacky> heh
[09:00]<@jacky> I wouldn't blame you one bit
[09:00]<@jacky> :)
[09:00]<Chosen> Right now, all my code is <censored>.
[09:00]<@jacky> and... I'm going back to what I was doing to
[09:00]<Chosen> WHAT
[09:00]<Chosen> WHAT WHAT
[09:00]<Chosen> Freaking ChanbotIV.
[09:00]<@jacky> heheeh
[09:00]<Chosen> He's my arch-nemesis.
[09:01]<@BC_Programming> Delphi is a pain in the butt. Especially when the closest thing to it you have used is Turbo Pascal 5.5
[09:01]<Chosen> What or who is 'Delphi'?
[09:01]<@BC_Programming> Programming language
[09:01]<@jacky> trying to remember...
[09:01]<Chosen> Also, why am I not allowed to use 'the synonym for feces that begins with a 's''?
[09:01]<@jacky> is it related to Pascal somehow?
[09:02]<Chosen> Yes, it is.
[09:02]<Chosen> I just checked Wikipedia.
[09:02]<@BC_Programming> jacky: yeah, it's pretty much the evolved form
[09:02]<Chosen> It's more like a 'developing environment', it says...
[09:02]<@jacky> Chosen: mibbit maintains a list of "bad" words. The channel filters them. ChanbotIV watches for that filtration, and acts upon it
[09:02]<Chosen> Whatever that is.
[09:02]<@jacky> BC_Programming: tnx
[09:02]<@BC_Programming> Chosen: IDE. but the language is called Delphi
[09:02]<@BC_Programming> the IDE is CodeGear, or, in my case, just Visual Studio 2008
[09:03]<Chosen> Ah, okay
[09:03]<@jacky> BC_Programming: are they close enough that if you know Pascal, that you can move right along with Delphi?
[09:03]<@BC_Programming> jacky:I'm not sure, I'm so rusty with Pascal I'm not sure if my inability to do stuff is because they changed it or because I remember wrong
[09:03]<Chosen> I guess that would be like moving from C to C++, as it's 'evolved', apparently.
[09:03]<@BC_Programming> I'd be willing to bet on the latter though
[09:04]<@jacky> BC_Programming: fair 'nuff. and if I've asked you this before..sorry to get you to repeat.... but why are you fiddling with Pascal/Delphi ?
[09:04]<@BC_Programming> just because
[09:04]<@jacky> fair 'nuff, again
[09:04]<@BC_Programming> actually, the real reason was a discussion on TheDailyWTF
[09:04]<@jacky> and one thing leads to another....
[09:04]<Chosen> Isn't that one part of the Cheezburger Network?
[09:04]<Chosen> *a
[09:04]<@BC_Programming> ?
[09:04]<@jacky> can you compile executables that will run on windows command line though?
[09:05]<@BC_Programming> Chosen: no
[09:05]<@BC_Programming> jacky: yes
[09:05]<Chosen> The Cheezburger Network is everything like Failblog, Graphjam, Memebase, etc....
[09:05]<@jacky> BC_Programming: only on 32 bit windows?
[09:05]<@BC_Programming> Chosen: yes, I know. it's not a part of that
[09:05]<Chosen> http://thedailywh.at/
[09:05]<Chosen> Didn't you refer to that?
[09:05]<@BC_Programming> Chosen: no, I didn't
[09:06]<@BC_Programming> I said "TheDailyWTF" ie, www.thedailywtf.com
[09:06]<Chosen> Oh, mistake.
[09:06]<Chosen> Sorry.
[09:07]<@BC_Programming> jacky: I'm not sure what the "actual" delphi environment allows, but I'm using Delphi "Prism" which is pretty much a plugin for Visual Studio 2008 and let's me make anything Visual Studio 2008 can make, which includes 32-bit and 64-bit programs
[09:07]<@jacky> cool
[09:07]<@jacky> was just curious
[09:07]<@BC_Programming> I'm pretty sure the "pure" delphi environment allows that as well
[09:08]<@jacky> I was thinking it might be too old for that
[09:08]<@jacky> interesting...
[09:09]<@BC_Programming> Delphi Prism is 2010 or so, so it's not quite the flappy paddles but it does the job
[09:09]<Chosen> What's the difference between 32-64?
[09:09]<@jacky> flappy paddles?
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[09:09]<Chosen> I have never quite grasped the concept.
[09:09]<@jacky> somebody say "32" please
[09:09]<Chosen> 32
[09:09]<@jacky> ehehe
[09:09]<Chosen> What?
[09:10]<@jacky> Chosen: I can't do the defintions well, but here goes:
[09:10]<@BC_Programming> different CPU architectures basically
[09:10]<@jacky> a 32 bit system has a bus that is 32 bits wide, and a 64 bit system is 64 bits wide. it can do more
[09:10]<@jacky> one of the main things that folks talk about
[09:11]<@jacky> is the ability to access more memory
[09:11]<@jacky> on a 32 bit system, the system will access around 3.5 G of memory
[09:11]<@jacky> that's it
[09:11]<@jacky> doesn't matter if you install 50G
[09:11]<@jacky> a 64 bit system can access waaaaaaaay more
[09:11]<@BC_Programming> jacky: actually that is a limitation of windows- not 32-bit in general
[09:11]<@jacky> BC_Programming: not from what I've read
[09:11]<@jacky> it is a limitation that apples no matter what the OS
[09:12]<@BC_Programming> well, Windows Server 2003 is 32-bit and has no problem with >4GB of RAM
[09:12]<@jacky> Chosen: so... I believe that as thing change over time... that the world will move to 64 systems.
[09:12]<@jacky> BC_Programming: it won't have a problem... it just won't use it
[09:12]<@BC_Programming> it uses it, it all shows up
[09:12]<+Mulreay> What are the limits of 64bit though
[09:12]<@jacky> then everything I've read, is wrong
[09:12]<@jacky> hehehe
[09:13]<@BC_Programming> jacky: probably
[09:13]<@jacky> spend some time with Google.. in moments, you'll find it
[09:13]<Chosen> Heh.
[09:13]<@BC_Programming> the thing is, people say that it's limited to ~4GB because 2 to the power of 32 (32-bits) is 4GB
[09:13]<+Mulreay> We were talking... lets invite Google in
[09:13]<+Mulreay> !g 64bit limitations
[09:14]<Chosen> Is that a Wikipedia command?
[09:14]<Chosen> This IRC has fancy gadgets.
[09:14]<@BC_Programming> but that doesn't really make sense, since that would have meant that 16-bit operating systems could only address 2^16 or 64K of memory, but they could use far more
[09:14]<+Mulreay> nope a google command hence the g
[09:14]<Chosen> Ah.
[09:14]<+Mulreay> !g spaceandscience
[09:14]<Chosen> I am going to have dinner.
[09:14]<+Mulreay> nope ChanbotIV
[09:15]<+Mulreay> !g space and science
[09:15]<Chosen> My favorite kind of meat for dinner, along with my favorite veggies!
[09:15]<+Mulreay> bastard
[09:15]<Chosen> AFK
[09:15]<+camerongray> It's a bit of both OS and hardware
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> and 8-bit PCs usually could use 1MB, whereas if we followed the "rule" 2^8 should only allow them 256 bytes
[09:15]<@jacky> I can't speak to that...
[09:15]<@jacky> 
[09:15]<@jacky> http://www.linuxreaders.com/2011/02/21/access-more-than-4gb-ram-on-linux-32bit/
[09:15]<@jacky> this is typical to find: By default 32bit architecture has limitation of 4gb memory access, by either switching to 64bit os or using PAE kernel you can access > 4gb physical memory.
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> ahh so it's PAE
[09:15]<@jacky> 
[09:15]<+camerongray> The address bus width defines the maximum number of addresses that can be assigned relating to the amount of memory
[09:16]<+camerongray> But also depends of the size of each memory location
[09:16]<@BC_Programming> PAE means bigger data bus width, but the software has to support it
[09:16]<@jacky> here's some more: http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/brianmadden/archive/2004/02/19/the-4gb-windows-memory-limit-what-does-it-really-mean.aspx
[09:16]<@jacky> 
[09:17]<@BC_Programming> http://www.geoffchappell.com/viewer.htm?doc=notes/windows/license/memory.htm
[09:17]<+Mulreay> This is where I fall down... I'm struggling with hardware in my CompTIA stuff
[09:17]<@jacky> 
[09:18]<@jacky> BC_Programming: does this come close to what you were saying? : http://linux.livejournal.com/1754389.html
[09:18]<+Mulreay> Averaging 79% in Cooling, maintenance and software
[09:18]<@jacky> BC_Programming: "Its not a 32-bit limitation. For example, the 32-bit windows server can access more than 4Gb of RAM (If you run the Enterprise Edition or Datacenter) using /PAE as a flag in boot.ini.
[09:18]<@jacky> IIRC the limitation is to do with addressable space - PAE gives each process a 4GB window on the available memory. "
[09:18]<@BC_Programming> for windows, it's because they purposely made the decision to limit it for compatibility; for Linux it's because it uses a Monolithic kernel
[09:18]<+Mulreay> Averaging 12% in Hardware
[09:18]<@jacky> and I have no idea if he knows what he is talking about, or not . heheheehe
[09:19]<@BC_Programming> PAE is a 48-bit data bus, but the software has to support it, otherwise it only gets to use 32
[09:19]<@jacky> this is interesting: "The x86 32 bit architecture allows for 4GB per task"
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> yep that's true. Windows automagically gives all processes a 4GB address space, typically 2GB for the app and 2GB for the system
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> can't speak with confidence about other operating systems though
[09:21]<@jacky> BC_Programming: there is a lot in this thread: http://linux.livejournal.com/1754389.html and a lot of it goes over my head, so I cannot judge the validity of it. I bet you might like to read that whole thread though.
[09:22]<@BC_Programming> oh gawd... EMS page frames
[09:22]<@jacky> eh?
[09:23]<@BC_Programming> I was suddenly reminded of EMS page frames that were used to access more than what the system could access
[09:23]<@jacky> ok, I guess
[09:23]<@jacky> heh
[09:23]<@BC_Programming> basically a EMS driver would swap pieces of data to and from a EMS board when a program needed to read or write to it
[09:23]<@BC_Programming> the "page frame" would be a small segment of memory that was reserved for swapping back and forth to the EMS card thing
[09:23]<@jacky> wait... this is vaguely reminiscent of EMM isn't it?
[09:24]<@jacky> DOS mem manager?
[09:24]<@BC_Programming> EMM managed XMS and EMS memory
[09:24]<@jacky> whew... been a while
[09:25]<@BC_Programming> XMS can be directly dealt with on 286 machines or greater; EMS works on anything all the way to the original IBM PC because it was basically an expansion board and a driver that was used to page memory to and from the system memory to the EMS card chips
[09:26]<@jacky> been too long... I don't remember details of working with it
[09:26]<@jacky> as usual, I just looked things up, when I needed them
[09:26]<@BC_Programming> good
[09:26]<@jacky> I do remember the terms though...
[09:26]<@BC_Programming> try to keep it that way though for your sanity
[09:26]<@BC_Programming> :P
[09:26]<@jacky> heck, I had QEMM for a while
[09:26]<@BC_Programming> Quarterdeck
[09:26]<@BC_Programming> woo
[09:26]<@jacky> and DESQView, so I could multi-task Dos
[09:26]<@jacky> it was great!
[09:26]<@jacky> :)
[09:27]<@jacky> old days of "pirating" ... sneaker net... I ran a motel on the beach. Some guy wanted to come (off peak season)
[09:27]<@jacky> I comped his room
[09:27]<@jacky> he handed me some floppies
[09:27]<@jacky> :)
[09:27]<@BC_Programming> heh
[09:28]<@jacky> that's how I got QEMM and DESQView
[09:28]<@jacky> heh
[09:29]<@jacky> BC_Programming: did you see the post by vincula at : http://linux.livejournal.com/1754389.html ?
[09:29]<@jacky> phone
[09:29]<@jacky> brb
[09:30]<@jacky> sounds like that post might be answering your thoughts about 8 bit and 16 bit days gone by
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[09:41]<+Mulreay> Geez... my Housemates Dad's turned up... he's louder than a Scouser with Tourette's syndrome
[09:43]<+camerongray> hahaha
[09:43]<+Mulreay> Apparently doors are not for closing... there for smashing
[09:45]<@BC_Programming> or for making a jar
[09:45]<+Mulreay> He parks his Car on our drive in the mornings because he works local... then he 'comes in' at 7am and shouts upstairs 'GREG, you awake?' well we fecking were until you showed up tit
[09:46]<@BC_Programming> lol
[09:46]<+Mulreay> He does my head in
[09:46]<+Mulreay> Even Greg says it's annoying
[09:46]<@jacky> 
[09:47]<@jacky> somebody in #bots is asking about perl , I told him to try #codingcafe and here. just fyi
[09:47]<@jacky> 
[09:47]<+Mulreay> damn you and your re-linking to other channel skills
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[09:47]<@jacky> har
[09:47]<+Mulreay> see what you have done
[09:48]<Chosen> Back.
[09:48]<+Mulreay> Hey yofun
[09:48]<Chosen> Dinner was good :D
[09:48]<Chosen> Hello Yofun.
[09:48]<+Mulreay> for some reason that name is familiar
[09:49]<Chosen> Yoyogames?
[09:49]<Chosen> Yoyo?
[09:50]<@BC_Programming> dinner... it's 9AM here, heh
[09:50]<+Mulreay> 16:52 here so border line lunch to be fair
[09:51]<Chosen> 17:54 here.
[09:51]<Chosen> That's 5:54 PM for the Britfags.
[09:51]<Chosen> No offense.
[09:51]<Chosen> I just have my roots on /b/...
[09:51]<+Mulreay> Consider me offended
[09:51]<Chosen> *Brits.
[09:51]<Chosen> There you go.
[09:52]<+Mulreay> Sorry that was a little out of order
[09:52]<Chosen> What was out of order?
[09:52]<+Mulreay> I don't call you a feckwit
[09:52]<@BC_Programming> saying Britfags obviously...
[09:52]<Chosen> Heh.
[09:53]<Chosen> What do you mean with 'out of order'?
[09:53]<Chosen> I am having a language barrier in front of me here.
[09:53]<+Mulreay> You called my culture 'britfags'
[09:53]<Chosen> Hmm.
[09:53]<@BC_Programming> out of line, unnecessary, etc
[09:53]<Chosen> It was just the first thing I thought of, sorry.
[09:54]<+Mulreay> no hmm you said it... I'm offended
[09:54]<Chosen> Are you kidding or are you seriously offended? I am barely able to tell the difference (always been like that) so please do not take advantage of that.
[09:55]<@jacky> he said he was sorry... if he does it again, then it will be clear if he was sincere in that, or not.
[09:55]<@jacky> best to just let it go, isn't it?
[09:55]<@BC_Programming> I like bears
[09:55]<Chosen> Think so.
[09:55]<+Mulreay> I'm seriously offended... you would know if I was joking as the channel would have 'heh' and lols' in it right now
[09:55]<Chosen> Oh.
[09:55]<Chosen> Well, I said sorry, I corrected myself, I wanted to make sure if you was offended and was willing to apologize again...
[09:55]<@jacky> Mulreay: you ok with his apology, for now, though?
[09:55]<+Mulreay> Yep np
[09:55]<@jacky> cool
[09:55]<@jacky> and
[09:55]<@jacky> cool
[09:56]<@jacky> tnx
[09:56]<Chosen> So, sorry. I am not saying anymore. Be angry if you want, I don't care.
[09:56]<@jacky> umm...
[09:56]<+Mulreay> see..
[09:56]<@jacky> hehehe
[09:56]<+Mulreay> lol
[09:56]<@BC_Programming> No longer like bears
[09:56]<Chosen> Well, this sound passive-agressive...
[09:56]<sonicrules1234> Why does everybody on IRC have to hate some country?
[09:56]<Chosen> I don't really hate countries...
[09:56]<@BC_Programming> Canada blows
[09:56]<Chosen> I just really, really like my own ;)
[09:56]<@BC_Programming> that place is a giant craphole
[09:56]<+Mulreay> lol
[09:56]<@jacky> BC_Programming hats possums
[09:56]<sonicrules1234> I rather like Canada
[09:56]<Chosen> Heh.
[09:57]<Chosen> It's where Justin Bieber comes from, so...
[09:57]<@BC_Programming> sonicrules: how can you, they all wear POOFY HATS
[09:57]<@BC_Programming> Chosen: and Celine dion
[09:57]<@BC_Programming> both of whom suck
[09:57]<sonicrules1234> I do hate Justin Bieber though
[09:57]<Chosen> Celine Dion? I hardly know 'er!
[09:57]<+Mulreay> Chosen: I really like my own as well... but as this is a multi-cultural channel a little reserve is in order unless you know the person
[09:57]<Chosen> Who's that?
[09:57]<@BC_Programming> we apologize for that
[09:57]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Lol
[09:57]<Chosen> Look, Mulreay. Are we done with this or aren't we?
[09:58]<+Mulreay> We were yes, but now....
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> "There are two kinds of people I can't stand, people who are intolerant of other cultures, and the Dutch"
[09:58]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Lol
[09:58]<+Mulreay> We were yes, but now....@ BC_Programming
[09:58]<Chosen> BC_Programming, I am Dutch.
[09:58]<sonicrules1234> Where'd you get that quote?
[09:58]<Chosen> If you didn't know.
[09:58]<+Mulreay> oops
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> sonic: I think it was on Austin powers
[09:58]<Chosen> This is all rather awkward.
[09:58]<sonicrules1234> Ah
[09:58]<+Mulreay> yeah
[09:59]<sonicrules1234> Chosen: Notice the quotes
[09:59]<Chosen> Ah, g'dammit.
[09:59]<Chosen> Didn't notice.
[09:59]<Chosen> Heeeeey....
[09:59]<sonicrules1234> Mulreay: I like the UK version of top gear
[09:59]<@BC_Programming> yeah and I'm Canadian and I didn't get pissed off at that douchebag who was just saying we all wear poofy hats and that it's a giant craphole
[09:59]<Chosen> I have an idea!
[09:59]<@BC_Programming> but I know him well
[09:59]<@BC_Programming> him being me
[10:00]<@BC_Programming> hey wait a second he just called me a douchebag
[10:00]<+Mulreay> It was 'michael Caine in 'Goldmember
[10:00]<Chosen> I am going to make a program that lets a user put in their nationality, and then let the program insult that culture, and a few special lines for well-known countries!
[10:00]<Chosen> That will be a great excersise!
[10:00]<sonicrules1234> Chosen: That probably already exists
[10:00]<Chosen> *exersize? Excersice?
[10:00]<Chosen> Probably.
[10:00]<Chosen> But I don't care :D
[10:00]<+Mulreay> *sigh
[10:01]<@BC_Programming> make sure to point out how Canadians wear poofy hats
[10:01]<@BC_Programming> although they don't
[10:01]<Chosen> What is poofy?
[10:01]<Chosen> Never mind.
[10:01]<Chosen> I'll google.
[10:01]<sonicrules1234> Chosen: When you say make instead of write, I start assuming you mean tv when you say program
[10:01]<+Mulreay> They may, we don't know... you could be lying
[10:01]<Chosen> !g Poofy
[10:01]<Chosen> WOOHOOO!!!!
[10:01]<sonicrules1234> Poofy is a real word...
[10:02]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: how dare you insult my culture *slaps with glove* I challenge you to a duel!
[10:02]<Chosen> 1 4M 1337 1RC'3R!!11!!one!111!!!eleven!!!!!
[10:02]<@BC_Programming> Just let me make sure my poofy hat is safe
[10:02]<Chosen> No, sonicrules1234, I am going to write one.
[10:02]<sonicrules1234> Chosen: Leet speak is lame
[10:02]<Chosen> I know.
[10:02]<Chosen> I was being sarcastic.
[10:02]<sonicrules1234> Ah
[10:03]<Chosen> Mocking the scriptkiddies who think they are cool because they can code a few lines or DDOS people.
[10:03]<Chosen> Wait...
[10:03]<Chosen> I am one of them.
[10:03]<Chosen> FUUUUU
[10:03]<sonicrules1234> xD
[10:03]<+Mulreay> I take up that challenge and profer up my challenge
[10:03]<Chosen> Which challenge?
[10:03]<+Mulreay> oops, used challenge twice
[10:03]<@BC_Programming> you have to credit them though, they make hilarious videos
[10:03]<sonicrules1234> Chosen: The duel
[10:03]<sonicrules1234> <BC_Programming> Mulreay: how dare you insult my culture *slaps with glove* I challenge you to a duel! <--Chosen
[10:03]<@BC_Programming> oh, you're still on that are you Mulreay
[10:04]<Chosen> ah, I see.
[10:04]<Chosen> Okay, people.
[10:04]<Chosen> I am going to start 'Operation Racism.cpp'.
[10:04]<Chosen> Be back in a few minutes.
[10:05]<+Mulreay> Paper, scissor, stone... we each type in the prefered one and a second says go and we both hit enter... then will my honour be restored
[10:05]<Chosen> What makes Python special?
[10:05]<@BC_Programming> Nothing, it's just another language; another tool to use from a vast set of tools
[10:05]<Chosen> I am looking for another language than only C++ (because it's slow and very, very, hard).
[10:05]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming is right
[10:05]<Chosen> (Relatively slow, that is.)
[10:05]<Chosen> Okay.
[10:05]<@BC_Programming> Chosen: python would be a good choice though
[10:06]<Chosen> Ah.
[10:06]<Chosen> I think I am going to do Python or Lua, besides C++.
[10:06]<Chosen> As soon as I finish this darned tutorial...
[10:06]<sonicrules1234> Python! Nobody uses lua other than gary's mod people
[10:06]<@jacky> C++ is slow ?
[10:06]<Chosen> It has to be compiled.
[10:06]<Chosen> Which takes time.
[10:07]<@BC_Programming> jacky: I'm thinking he means time-wise to work with and whatnot
[10:07]<Chosen> Interpreted languages (like Python) are read 'as is'.
[10:07]<@jacky> BC_Programming: ok. makes sense....
[10:07]<Chosen> Yeah, that too, what BC_Programming said.
[10:07]<Chosen> C++ is very intensive.
[10:07]<Chosen> 50 lines of code for a simple quiz :/
[10:07]<Chosen> Could rewrite it so it has a lot less, though.
[10:08]<Chosen> By using switch-statements instead of if-else conditions.
[10:08]<Chosen> But I am wandering.
[10:08]<@jacky> "Computers are high speed idiots"
[10:08]<@jacky> I forget who said that
[10:08]<Chosen> I don't know.
[10:08]<sonicrules1234> I remember writing quizzes on my old palm pilot
[10:08]<@BC_Programming> "To err is human; to really foul things up requires a computer"
[10:09]<sonicrules1234> I used basic
[10:09]<Chosen> But what about using that high-speed at its full potentional by only using heavier languages to build engines?
[10:09]<Chosen> If you know who the person was, I would call that guy an idiot.
[10:09]<Chosen> *would know
[10:09]<@BC_Programming> whom?
[10:10]<Chosen> The guy that said: "Computers are high speed idiots"
[10:10]<@BC_Programming> why would you call him an idiot?
[10:10]<Chosen> Gawd.
[10:10]<Chosen> I'll repeat.
[10:10]<sonicrules1234> So computers are high on speed?
[10:10]<Chosen> Chosen But what about using that high-speed at its full potentional by only using heavier languages to build engines?
[10:10]<@BC_Programming> He's right. computers have no intuition, they have no common sense. They just follow a set of instructions
[10:11]<@BC_Programming> any idiot can follow a set of instructions. That's all a computer does, but it does it fast
[10:11]<Chosen> Wait, what?
[10:11]<Chosen> Wait, it was in a context though.
[10:11]<Chosen> It was in the context that he disregarded the fact that compiling takes time, and that it could be faster with just some more hard work.
[10:12]<Chosen> By using other languages, that are more high-level.
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> except the quote was general, it had nothing to do with what we were talking about
[10:12]<Chosen> Yeah, it was ripped out of the context it was in.
[10:12]<Chosen> Was there a context?
[10:12]<Chosen> Dammit, I don't remember.
[10:12]<Chosen> I don't really care either.
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> it wasn't in a context. It was a GENERAL statement about computing in general
[10:13]<@jacky> it was sort of related to the comment about 50 lines of code
[10:13]<Chosen> If what you say is true (it probably is) you are right.
[10:13]<@jacky> in that it takes a lot of human orders, for a computer to do anything
[10:13]<Chosen> So let's assume you are.
[10:13]<+Mulreay> WJY ASSUME?
[10:13]<+Mulreay> OOPS
[10:13]<+Mulreay> why assume?
[10:13]<Chosen> I was talking about that I could refine a long piece of code (about 50 lines) to make it easier to handle.
[10:14]<Chosen> Was your capslock on?
[10:14]<@jacky> "precipitated" would be a better word
[10:14]<+Mulreay> no
[10:14]<@BC_Programming> Chosen:with a quiz you could also separate the questions/answers into a separate file and just use a loop
[10:14]<+Mulreay> My pinky ws leaning on the shift key
[10:14]<Chosen> BC_Programming: I don't yet know how to use separate files in C++ documents.
[10:15]<Chosen> I'm not even at an intermediate level, FYI.
[10:15]<Chosen> Wait...
[10:15]<@BC_Programming> That's not necessarily the languages fault, though, to be fair
[10:15]<Chosen> What are you referring too?
[10:15]<Chosen> To high-levelness/different languages again?
[10:15]<sonicrules1234> This argument is giving me a headache
[10:15]<Chosen> We're having an argument?
[10:15]<@BC_Programming> you'll still need to learn the same concepts, regardless of the language you choose, anyway. It won't necessarily make it easier to choose another language... although, if you use something like python the debug/test cycle wil lbe easier
[10:16]<sonicrules1234> Chosen: Yes
[10:17]<Chosen> Oh teh noez!
[10:17]<Chosen> Wait...
[10:17]<Chosen> I think I just figured out how to be able to make use of the same integers as answers... Using functions!
[10:18]<Chosen> Now just to figure out functions...
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[10:36]<@BC_Programming> by cam
[10:36]<@BC_Programming> hi tux
[10:36]<+Mulreay> Or a better ISP
[10:36]<@BC_Programming> bye*
[10:36]<@BC_Programming> flappy paddles for everyone
[10:36]<+Mulreay> lol
[10:36]<+Mulreay> It was a good one
[10:38]<@jacky> what is "flappy paddles" about?
[10:38]<@jacky> just curious... I miss out...
[10:38]<@BC_Programming> lol
[10:39]<@BC_Programming> it's a "game" Graham thought up; one person PMs another person with a nonsense phrase like flappy paddles or bo jiggly or something, and the other person has to try to put that phrase into the next thing they say
[10:39]<Tux2> hi BC_Programming
[10:39]<Tux2> hi jacky
[10:39]<@jacky> BC_Programming: that fits you perfectly! heheeh
[10:40]<@jacky> Tux2: Howdy
[10:40]<+Mulreay> heh
[10:40]<@BC_Programming> jacky: yeah I thought so
[10:41]<@BC_Programming> did I tell you guys about the time my Aunt martha was eaten by a giant Monkey crap monster?
[10:41]<+Mulreay> Not like your rubbing at a brass door knob or anything... just fun
[10:41]<@jacky> No!
[10:41]<@jacky> tell us all about it
[10:41]<@BC_Programming> well I remember, I was a wee one at the time
[10:42]<@BC_Programming> I quite recall there being a knock on the door while I was visiting
[10:42]<@jacky> ( my work here is done... be back in a few hours, when he runs out of gas.... )
[10:42]<@jacky> hehehehe
[10:42]<@BC_Programming> and what else was at the door, but a little girl scout
[10:42]<+Mulreay> I win
[10:42]<@BC_Programming> and my aunt was all "oh are you selling cookies"
[10:42]<+Mulreay> YES
[10:42]<@BC_Programming> and she was all "No I'm selling condoms, what do you think stupid lady"
[10:42]<@BC_Programming> And that's when my Aunt just lost it
[10:43]<@BC_Programming> she took the girl and threw her at the christmas tree, and then picked her up again and thrrough her into the basement
[10:43]<@BC_Programming> Little did we know this was no ordinary girl scout
[10:43]<@BC_Programming> she was a specially trained and engineered girl scout that was contrived in a secret lab
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[10:44]<+camerongray> back
[10:44]<@BC_Programming> a monkey in a nearby cage however once through feces at her, which because of her being engineered and all became a part of her DNA
[10:45]<@BC_Programming> she grew to ten times the size of a standard bus stop, and nearly overpowered the small coat rack in the basement
[10:45]<@BC_Programming> Then she exploded
[10:45]<@jacky> not imploded??
[10:45]<@BC_Programming> This made my Aunt lose it again, because there were blood and guts all over her favourite trombone
[10:46]<@BC_Programming> "My trombone!" she said loudly
[10:46]<@BC_Programming> jacky: no that was the boy scout monkey crap monster, that's a separate altercation altogether
[10:46]<@jacky> ah
[10:47]<@jacky> makes perfect sense
[10:47]<@jacky> tnx
[10:47]<@BC_Programming> and she went up to her trombone
[10:47]<@BC_Programming> "and she said, Don't LEAVE ME trombony"
[10:47]<@BC_Programming> and the trombone said
[10:47]<@BC_Programming> "stay gold, Pony boy, stay gold"
[10:47]<@BC_Programming> and then exploded
[10:47]<@BC_Programming> this set the entire house on fire
[10:47]<@BC_Programming> "My saxophone!" she exclaimed
[10:47]<@BC_Programming> and she went up to her saxophone
[10:48]<@BC_Programming> "don't leave me saxomaphone"
[10:48]<@BC_Programming> and the saxophone said
[10:48]<@BC_Programming> "I hate suaercraut"
[10:48]<@BC_Programming> my Aunt Martha has never forgotten those last words
[10:49]<@BC_Programming> oh yeah and the saxophone exploded as well but it wasn't so much of a problem since everything was already on fire
[10:49]<@BC_Programming> the end
[10:49]<@jacky> end of what?
[10:49]<@BC_Programming> the story
[10:49]<@jacky> that was a story?
[10:49]<@jacky> it wasnt' real???
[10:50]<@jacky> oh... come on.
[10:50]<@jacky> really???
[10:50]<@BC_Programming> There wasn't much to tell after that, really boring, you know, giant godzilla attacked our new house, huge praying mantis eats the president, etc, very boring
[10:50]<@jacky> question: in your sermons, why is everything "giant" and "huge" ?
[10:50]<@BC_Programming> because it adds excitement
[10:51]<@jacky> oh
[10:51]<@jacky> I didn't realize that I was excited
[10:51]<@jacky> sorry
[10:51]<@BC_Programming> I couldn't very well say "a normal sized praying mantis eats the president"
[10:51]<@BC_Programming> that doesn't make sense
[10:51]<@jacky> why?
[10:51]<@BC_Programming> I mean a praying mantis is going to have to take a few breaks
[10:51]<@jacky> he'd just have to take more bites
[10:51]<@jacky> but, I'd be cheering for the praying mantis!
[10:52]<@BC_Programming> jacky: well yeah but I also neglected to mention this mantis was very weight sensitive
[10:52]<@BC_Programming> and he had magic powers
[10:52]<@BC_Programming> and he was half-robot
[10:52]<@jacky> You're getting further away from your central premise
[10:52]<@BC_Programming> yes of course, and that is important
[10:52]<@BC_Programming> and it is, what are we going to call ourselves?
[10:53]<@BC_Programming> I think it comes down to a choice between "The League Against Salivating Monsters" or my own personal preference, which is "The Committee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabilitation Into Society." The drawback of that being of course the abbreviation.
[10:55]<+camerongray> I call myself Cameron :P
[10:55]<+camerongray> But I refer to myself as me or I
[10:55]<@BC_Programming> and you are allowed to do that
[10:55]<+camerongray> hahaha
[10:55]<@jacky> I said to myself, "Self.... "
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[11:13]<+Mulreay> Heh love how one of my videos is top when it comes to searches... 'How to download wimp.com'
[11:13]<+Mulreay> in google
[11:13]<@BC_Programming> cool
[11:16]<@BC_Programming> Social Networking: never before have so many people wasted so much time doing so little thought they had done too much.
[11:16]<+Mulreay> lol
[11:17]<+Mulreay> so true
[11:17]<+Mulreay> I'm nearly done with Facefook now
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[11:23]<+Craig> HAHAHAHAHA Nice Quote BC
[11:25]<@BC_Programming> thx craig, not sure where I got it
[11:26]<+camerongray> Hey Craig
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[11:26]<Craig-remote> Sure you guys start talking as soon as I start a game...
[11:29]<+Mulreay> Apparently I can get a re-tweet if someones dying... not for saying 'A place for Adults and Children to learn'. Anyone got any dying children intrested in science?
[11:30]<+Mulreay> Joke of course... and rather tasteless
[11:30]<+Mulreay> well not a joke
[11:31]<+Mulreay> Just annoying
[11:32]<Craig-remote> :P
[11:32]<@BC_Programming> hmm may switch some of my music in baseblock to use MOD and S3M files
[11:32]<@BC_Programming> much smaller
[11:33]<@BC_Programming> 14KB is much better than 4-5 MB :P
[11:33]<+Mulreay> Quality?
[11:33]<@BC_Programming> better
[11:34]<Chosen> I AM OFFENDED BECAUSE I AM A DYING CHILD!
[11:34]<+Mulreay> If only
[11:34]<Chosen> Would you shut your mouth already?
[11:34]<Chosen> That was to Chanbot, FYI
[11:34]<Chosen> Not to Mulreay.
[11:35]<@BC_Programming> using OGG currently, mod/s3m/it are teensy but because they are basically like an enhanced MIDI file they usually reproduce it precisely
[11:35]<+camerongray> lol
[11:36]<+Mulreay> Never really got that much into audio
[11:36]<+Mulreay> or anything else
[11:37]<+Mulreay> But then again I'm no programmer
[11:37]<+Mulreay> I can swear like a trooper
[11:38]<@BC_Programming> POING used MIDI files
[11:38]<@BC_Programming> because that was all I could get to play aside from crappy WAVE files
[11:38]<+Mulreay> POING I still have... and still play
[11:38]<@BC_Programming> srsly? cool. That thing is buggy compared to BASeBlock tho
[11:38]<@BC_Programming> but baseblock is probably ass-slow
[11:39]<+Mulreay> POING was cool
[11:39]<@BC_Programming> the BASeBlock project file still has the original name
[11:39]<@BC_Programming> "Poing2"
[11:39]<@BC_Programming> heh
[11:42]<@BC_Programming> I'm sort of worried about how high my post count is on the Minecraft forums
[11:42]<+Mulreay> how so?
[11:43]<@BC_Programming> 667
[11:43]<@BC_Programming> that's too much man
[11:43]<@BC_Programming> hmm I shouldn't have made my last post then I would have 666
[11:43]<+Mulreay> I could worry that a video about you has hit 100 views on my youtube channel
[11:43]<+Mulreay> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIaa5pKKpO0
[11:44]<+Mulreay> 100 people wanted to watch that
[11:44]<@BC_Programming> the videos with the most views of mine are the pony music things
[11:45]<+Mulreay> heh, my biggest has nearly 5000 but that is a film video
[11:45]<@BC_Programming> I need to finish my Kind of sparkle video but I ran out of clips to use and it started looking a bit random
[11:46]<Chosen> I liked it and wrote a comment.
[11:46]<Chosen> Don't know why.
[11:46]<Chosen> Oh, FFF
[11:46]<Chosen> Wrong accoutn.
[11:46]<Chosen> *account.
[11:46]<Chosen> Deleted.
[11:46]<@BC_Programming> um ok
[11:46]<Tux2> lol...
[11:46]<+Mulreay> Yeah you did... What is the point of this video, anyway?
[11:46]<+Mulreay> ~Chosen
[11:47]<@BC_Programming> haha
[11:47]<+Mulreay> You want an applause or something?
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[11:47]<Chosen> No...
[11:47]<Chosen> Are you angry?
[11:47]<Chosen> It was a genuine question.
[11:47]<+Mulreay> I don't get angry I'm to old for that
[11:47]<Chosen> ...
[11:47]<Chosen> Say that to...
[11:47]<Chosen> Never mind.
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[11:48]<Chosen> Shut up, Chanbot.
[11:48]<+Mulreay> What is 'say that to'?
[11:48]<Chosen> No, no.
[11:48]<Chosen> Never mind.
[11:48]<Tux2> lol, here's my piddly post count on minecraft forums: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/409761-166-smp-creeper-explosion-nerf/
[11:48]<Chosen> Look, now that is useful stuff!
[11:49]<Tux2> lol, it's just a quick hack on the minecraft code.
[11:49]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: heh, love how some of the comments are "there is already one of these for bukkit" as if that makes it pointless
[11:50]<Tux2> lol, I know... it's a common case of: TL:DR.
[11:52]<Tux2> And, for the record, that's the first time I used that acronym.
[11:52]<+Mulreay> I'm not sure what you mean? First you come on and hate the Brits and then you try and diss my videos... I don't get your meaning? Are you trying to say something? Or just saying something? Chosen, your comments are very convoluted and I for one am giving you grace in the fact that I'm being patient. But my Patience goes so far before it becomes simple annoyance.
[11:55]<Chosen> First I accidentally say 'Britfags' instead of
[11:55]<Chosen> 'the British', or something similar, indeed.
[11:55]<@BC_Programming> how do you "accidentally" say a derogatory word, though
[11:55]<+Mulreay> how do you do that?
[11:55]<Chosen> I thought we were done with that, but whatever. I apologized (three times) for that, explained myself...
[11:56]<Chosen> Look, I used to frequent 4chan/b/
[11:56]<@BC_Programming> if anything that is not a point in your favour, though, to be fair
[11:56]<@BC_Programming> not that anybody is keeping score, though
[11:56]<Chosen> We would always say 'Amerifags', 'Dutchfags', etc.... But not trying to be offensive.
[11:56]<Tux2> lol, I LOVE how you can only have 1 link in your signature now that minecraft forums switched over to the new forum format.
[11:57]<@BC_Programming> tux2: I assume that is sarcasm? :P
[11:57]<Chosen> And then I wondered what the point of that video wa.
[11:57]<Chosen> *was.
[11:57]<+Mulreay> Yeah so I step in a forum and call the people there 'fags' not counting the people that are <censored> in a channel
[11:57]<Chosen> No sarcasm, no 'dissing', just a question.
[11:57]<Tux2> Yes, 2 lines, 1 link... sounds like too restrictive...
[11:57]<+Mulreay> Fa*gs
[11:57]<Chosen> Then, you use a settled dispute to frame me?
[11:57]<Tux2> How am I supposed to fit ALL my mods, my server, and stuff on 2 lines and only 1 LINK!!!
[11:58]<Chosen> I have explained myself. On the first matter, three times, on the second one, two times.
[11:58]<Chosen> I have apologized more than I am willing to count...
[11:58]<Chosen> One last time. I am sorry for everything now that I have done/said that could have been offensive to you.
[11:58]<Chosen> Now, can we, as an IRC chatroom, move on?
[11:58]<+Mulreay> So your a bigget and we should all take you that way as there is no argument
[11:59]<Chosen> What the heck is a 'bigget'?
[11:59]<Chosen> Oh, a racist.
[11:59]<@BC_Programming> thing is though asking "What is the point of this video" is a baseless question and if anything is only confrontational, it challenges the person posting the video to "explain themselves", even if that isn't the intended meaning.
[12:00]<@BC_Programming> I cannot think of a single one of my videos that I could adequately describe a "point" to, aside from the ones showing baseblock
[12:00]<Chosen> Indeed. I didn't see the relation of the pictures of lolcats, the title 'Ode to BC_Programming', and some other stuff.
[12:00]<Chosen> So I asked for an explanation.
[12:00]<Chosen> What's wrong with that?
[12:00]<Chosen> "There is no argument."!?
[12:01]<+Mulreay> 'Ode to BC'is what it is.. it's a video that shows respect to a friend.
[12:01]<@BC_Programming> it's still confrontational, though, even if the intention is amicable it still comes off as a "challenge" for them to explain what it is
[12:01]<Chosen> That's either an argument purely based on authority or lack of knowledge on debating, or not?
[12:01]<@BC_Programming> arguably, the only way to even understand the video would be to have been in this channel or CH for a while though
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[12:01]<Chosen> Look, I explained it.
[12:01]<Chosen> Look!
[12:01]<+Mulreay> What am I looking at?
[12:02]<Chosen> That's why I was asking! I was semi-aware that something in that video could pretty much only make sense to frequenters of this channel.
[12:02]<+Mulreay> Or to every person who would watch it.... ODE... as in ODE to bc
[12:03]<Chosen> You already said that.
[12:03]<Chosen> It just seemed like a slideshow of lolcats which is apparently, an 'ode'.
[12:03]<Chosen> I didn't see the relation.
[12:03]<Chosen> Hence I asked for explanation.
[12:03]<Chosen> But I'm away for a minute.
[12:03]<Chosen> My tea's done.
[12:03]<+Mulreay> I'm done with you... sorry had enough
[12:04]<Chosen> ...
[12:04]<Chosen> Are you gonna mute me, or something?
[12:04]<@BC_Programming> he can't
[12:04]<+Mulreay> Why would I?
[12:04]<@BC_Programming> well he can so only he can't see you though, but that would be silly
[12:05]<+Mulreay> I'm not petty
[12:05]<Chosen> That's what I meant.
[12:06]<+Mulreay> You insult my heritage and my videos... you've said your peace
[12:08]<Chosen> ...
[12:08]<Chosen> I never meant to insult you.
[12:08]<Chosen> It's a mix of chance and misinterpretation.
[12:08]<Chosen> I accidentally talked as if I were on 4chan.
[12:08]<Chosen> My comment was interpreted as a challenge.
[12:08]<Chosen> That's all.
[12:09]<Chosen> I could have done better, I admit...
[12:09]<Chosen> But there is ALWAYS an argument.
[12:09]<Chosen> No matter what.
[12:09]<@BC_Programming> I disagree
[12:09]<@BC_Programming> lol
[12:09]<+Mulreay> How is it chance? It's like me saying 'I hate Muslims' and hoping that the people watching are not.
[12:09]<Chosen> No.
[12:10]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: 4chan peeps use <country>f*gs to talk about people from country, from any country.
[12:10]<Chosen> Britfags != "The British are homosexuals that engage in sodomy"
[12:10]<Chosen> What BC_Programming said, too.
[12:10]<@BC_Programming> instead of Canadian, it's "canadaf*gs" etc
[12:10]<Chosen> I never meant to insult you.
[12:10]<@BC_Programming> I think it's silly, but thems the breaks and the intent certainly isn't what was interpreted
[12:10]<Chosen> I am just quickly alternating between tabs.
[12:10]<Chosen> And communities.
[12:11]<Chosen> Everyone has an own set of unwritten rules and slang.
[12:11]<@BC_Programming> never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by misunderstanding
[12:11]<Chosen> Accidents happen.
[12:11]<+Mulreay> BC_Programming touche
[12:11]<Chosen> ...
[12:11]<Chosen> It was also among the lines of what I was saying the entire time.
[12:12]<Chosen> Why don't youBRB
[12:12]<@BC_Programming> ?
[12:13]<+Mulreay> OK Chosen lets start from the beginning. I get your original meaning but that don't wash here (did I sound hip). And please don't knock my videos they take a long time to create and there done for friends.
[12:13]<@BC_Programming> wash?
[12:14]<Chosen> Back.
[12:14]<+Mulreay> yeah I chose something outside the box
[12:14]<@BC_Programming> new topic is Lemon Pledge
[12:14]<+Mulreay> lol
[12:14]<Chosen> ...
[12:14]<Chosen> 'Knock down'...
[12:14]<Chosen> I didn't knock them down on purpose.
[12:14]<+Mulreay> But you did
[12:14]<Chosen> The only thing that did go wrong here was unfortunate choice of words and misinterpretation.
[12:15]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: no, his question was valid it was just poorly phrased as as such misinterpreted
[12:15]<+Mulreay> I will give you that
[12:15]<Chosen> *went
[12:15]<@BC_Programming> and I will say if I got a similar comment on one of my videos I would probably feel the same way
[12:15]<+Mulreay> Chosen I extend my hand...
[12:16]<Chosen> I am not sure what you mean here.
[12:16]<Chosen> Are you saying all is well or something along these lines?
[12:16]<+Mulreay> Hand shake?
[12:16]<Chosen> Whatever.
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> to answer it though, the "randomness" of some of the pics is likely to express how random some of the things I say are, often having to do with bears, or possums
[12:16]<Chosen> *shake
[12:16]<Chosen> Thanks, BC_Programming. Now I finally get it :)
[12:18]<+Mulreay> Chosen you should watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX9_zzHWtg4 just to mix it up
[12:18]<@BC_Programming> haha part II
[12:18]<@BC_Programming> this is where I link him one of my pony videos and he goes WTF
[12:19]<@BC_Programming> lol you spelled my username wrong right at the start, never noticed that
[12:19]<@BC_Programming> yeah that second one would be harder to explain
[12:19]<+Mulreay> wow never noticed that
[12:20]<sonicrules1234> Whee, watching my torrent progress from my Wii is fun
[12:20]<+Mulreay> The tital says it
[12:20]<+Mulreay> Title
[12:20]<@BC_Programming> BTW those are copyright resources of BASeCamp Corporation! I'm GONNA SUE U
[12:20]<Chosen> So that's what 'BC' means!
[12:21]<+Mulreay> lol
[12:21]<Chosen> I've wondered for a long time.
[12:21]<+Mulreay> Base Camp
[12:21]<Chosen> I see.
[12:21]<@BC_Programming> no no, BASeCamp with the capitalization and all that
[12:21]<+Mulreay> Or Blue Crisps
[12:21]<@BC_Programming> also I'm in British Columbia so there is an alternate meaning that I never really intended
[12:22]<Chosen> Heh, you're just as keen on your username as I was with my previous default username.
[12:22]<Chosen> ThaB00MZ0R: I demanded that they would capitalize it right and not use O's instead of 0's.
[12:22]<@BC_Programming> heh
[12:23]<@BC_Programming> Well thing is though the capitalization comes from my original Experiences with programming
[12:23]<+Mulreay> It's not really a username with BC... it's moe an identity
[12:23]<@BC_Programming> BASIC, which uses .BAS files, and C, which is why the C is capitalized
[12:23]<@BC_Programming> so BASeCamp
[12:23]<Chosen> Ah.
[12:23]<@BC_Programming> although I haven't used BASIC or Visual Basic in ages, or plain C
[12:23]<Chosen> My (real) name begins with 'Bas' too :P
[12:24]<@BC_Programming> Bastard? that's an odd name...
[12:24]<@BC_Programming> heh
[12:24]<Chosen> No, not like that...
[12:24]<Chosen> Not a nickname, or name-calling.
[12:25]<@BC_Programming> wow Mulreay you were right about my old video intro music, that sucked
[12:26]<Craig-remote> Anyone ever play Hydrophobia?
[12:26]<Chosen> Nope.
[12:26]<@BC_Programming> can't say I have
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[12:26]<Chosen> I'm reading interesting articles on how feminists are stupid.
[12:26]<Chosen> Among others things.
[12:27]<@BC_Programming> Nobody is truly stupid
[12:27]<@BC_Programming> with the exception of midgets of course
[12:27]<@BC_Programming> <g>
[12:27]<Chosen> ...
[12:27]<Chosen> Everything is saying people shouldn't be 'racist'...
[12:27]<Chosen> Agh, never mind...
[12:27]<Chosen> I am not going back to something that's settle.d
[12:27]<Chosen> *settled.
[12:28]<+Mulreay> No one should be racist... ever...
[12:28]<Chosen> Depends on what you regard as racist, but whatever.
[12:28]<Chosen> Racism is always.
[12:28]<Chosen> Bad.
[12:28]<Chosen> What's racism and what's not is debatable, however.
[12:29]<+Mulreay> I'm black... with white characteristics
[12:29]<Chosen> White.
[12:29]<Chosen> However I got a big sunburn.
[12:29]<Chosen> So I am more like red at the moment
[12:29]<@BC_Programming> midgets aren't a race anyway... and, I was kidding to begin with, thus the <g>
[12:30]<Chosen> I know.
[12:30]<Chosen> But what does '<g>' mean?
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> grin
[12:31]<Chosen> Okay.
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> I had to look that up, lol
[12:31]<Chosen> xD
[12:32]<@BC_Programming> I work with a racist broad, or I used to, she needs to die in a fire
[12:32]<Chosen> What is a 'broad'?
[12:32]<@BC_Programming> stupid fat woman... at least in this case
[12:33]<Chosen> My translator only gives me the adjective 'wide'.
[12:33]<Chosen> Okay.
[12:33]<Chosen> But why is she stupid?
[12:33]<@BC_Programming> her brian is small
[12:33]<Chosen> Because she's a woman 'cough' 'cough'
[12:33]<Chosen> >g?
[12:33]<Chosen> ;g:
[12:33]<Chosen> <g>
[12:33]<@BC_Programming> no that has nothing do with it, though
[12:33]<+Mulreay> I think racist people sould be kept in a room with all the opposites for a week. And all of them need to be racist
[12:33]<Chosen> Yeah, I was just joking.
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> "oh no it cost 1.68 and they gave me 20 dollars what do I do?"
[12:34]<Chosen> You got a box full small change things, amirite?
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> "math"
[12:34]<Chosen> xD
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> and she tries to tell me I'm "not allowed" to do it in my head and I have to "get the machine to do it"
[12:35]<+Mulreay> BC_Programming smaller brains? Really?
[12:35]<Chosen> "Not allowed'?
[12:35]<+Mulreay> That was used against Black people
[12:35]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: supposedly, but it bears no correspondance to IQ- it is a known fact regardless
[12:35]<Chosen> http://miburl.com/SU3cLB
[12:35]<Chosen> Pic related.
[12:36]<@BC_Programming> Female's have less Brain volume; but people with larger brains aren't smarter, nor do they have a greater capacity for learning
[12:36]<+Mulreay> fact BC_Programming
[12:37]<Chosen> I am not implying that 'bitches' (could be interpreted as 'females') are always stupid.
[12:37]<Chosen> I was referring to your broad collegue.
[12:37]<@BC_Programming> indeed
[12:37]<+Mulreay> wow
[12:37]<@BC_Programming> I wrote a tome of a blog post about here and the other morons
[12:37]<@BC_Programming> then I realized that I was wasting my time and never published it
[12:37]<@BC_Programming> was good for venting though
[12:37]<Chosen> About what/
[12:37]<Chosen> =
[12:37]<Chosen> ?
[12:38]<Chosen> Misogyny?
[12:38]<@BC_Programming> oops not here, "her" I should have said
[12:38]<Chosen> Okay.
[12:38]<Chosen> I thought you were referring to flamewars in this channel.
[12:38]<Chosen> Do you ever have these, anyway/
[12:38]<Chosen> ?
[12:38]<Chosen> dAMMIT
[12:38]<Chosen> I keep making typos and failing at typing.
[12:38]<@BC_Programming> I think all the regulars have had a spat with each other at some point
[12:39]<Chosen> And pressing capslock.
[12:39]<Chosen> Okay.
[12:41]<Chosen> FUUU
[12:41]<Chosen> I have been talking on here for so long...
[12:41]<Chosen> That I forgot what I wanted to make a program about.
[12:41]<+Mulreay> Generally Womans brains to Male brains are Comparitive... non are better than the other... the woman does not have a smaller brain and even if they did it would be complete study in futility. You want to exercise the depths of the human thought... then talk to the person, not the gendre
[12:42]<Chosen> I never said women are stupid.
[12:42]<Chosen> Some are, though.
[12:42]<Chosen> And most feminists I've encountered are.
[12:42]<+Mulreay> When did I say they were?
[12:42]<Chosen> I never said you did.
[12:42]<Chosen> You say, "You want to..."
[12:42]<Chosen> I thought you meant me.
[12:42]<+Mulreay> <Chosen> I never said women are stupid.
[12:42]<Chosen> Who were you referring to.
[12:43]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: the brain of a female is measurably smaller, on average, to a male brain. but, AS I FECKING SAID that means nothing
[12:43]<Chosen> To BC?
[12:43]<+Mulreay> Agreed BC_Programming I did say 'Womans brains to Male brains are Comparitive'
[12:44]<Chosen> Wait, are you two just talking to each other?
[12:44]<+Mulreay> No were talking something called sence
[12:44]<@BC_Programming> Chosen: yes
[12:44]<Chosen> You mean 'sense'?'
[12:44]<+Mulreay> Oh burn
[12:45]<Chosen> Okay, BC_Programming.
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> Chosen: btw, the program you wanted to write was that thing where you enter your nationality and it insults you :P
[12:45]<Chosen> Ah, yes.
[12:45]<Chosen> Will be easy.
[12:45]<@BC_Programming> and you can make advertisements like "Context sensitive"
[12:45]<Chosen> Will help me memorize how switch-statements work, though.
[12:45]<Chosen> Was that second statement also aimed at me?
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> yeah :P it will be world famous
[12:46]<Chosen> How do you mean 'Context sensitive'?
[12:46]<+Mulreay> heh
[12:46]<Chosen> What's that?
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> well I was more making fun of the advertisements of other software
[12:46]<Chosen> I mean, what do you mean with that?
[12:46]<Chosen> Oh, the error messages!
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> yours would be "context sensitive" because it would know where you were and would give you the appropriate insult
[12:47]<Chosen> http://miburl.com/miR71k Like that, BC_Programming?
[12:47]<@BC_Programming> no... that's not an advertisement...
[12:47]<Chosen> I am not sure of what you mean.
[12:48]<@BC_Programming> I was being facetious, obviously it would be silly to create an advertisement for such a simple application
[12:48]<@BC_Programming> but software companies like to expunge "bullet points" for the silliest reasons
[12:48]<Chosen> Heh.
[12:48]<Chosen> I am learning more hard English words here than I learned from the last English book I read.
[12:48]<Chosen> Good thing I have a translating add-on.
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[12:51]<Chosen> Does anyone know some good music to listen to when programming?
[12:52]<Chosen> Preferably without lyrics.
[12:52]<Chosen> They distract me.
[12:52]<Chosen> Never mind, I found something.
[12:52]<+Mulreay> 'Prodigy'
[12:52]<@BC_Programming> Jonathan Coulton
[12:52]<Chosen> I already knew Prodigy, thanks anyway.
[12:52]<Chosen> Never heard of Coulton, going to try.
[12:53]<Chosen> Woah.
[12:53]<Chosen> This guy is popular.
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[12:53]<Chosen> One of the top comments has 12.000 likes.
[12:54]<Chosen> I gave the 12.000th one :D
[12:54]<@BC_Programming> his popularity exploded after he did the portal song...
[12:54]<Chosen> Expectable.
[12:54]<Chosen> Guitar + Beard + Pop culture = $$$
[12:55]<Chosen> $$$ or fame
[12:55]<@BC_Programming> well he <was> already popular, to be fair
[12:55]<Chosen> Yeah.
[12:55]<Chosen> But it exploded.
[12:55]<Chosen> Like that one Dutch girl who was well-known on the Internet after she uploaded in which she sung.
[12:55]<Chosen> Then she got a contract, and it raised even more.
[12:55]<Chosen> Now she's kinda forgotten, though.
[12:56]<Chosen> I don't even know her name anymore.
[12:56]<Chosen> :)
[12:57]<Chosen> 'Still alive' is a good song though.
[12:57]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[12:57]<Chosen> As long as I don't accidentally program an insane rogue A.I....
[12:57]<@BC_Programming> Re: Your Brains is my favourite though
[12:57]<@BC_Programming> used that for one of my minecraft videos where I spawned a crapload of zombies
[12:57]<Chosen> xD
[12:59]<@BC_Programming> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOho_hOXHeM that's the one
[13:02]<Chosen> Not too picklish...
[13:02]<Chosen> With a sword, you can strike multiple braineaters at once.
[13:03]<@BC_Programming> not that I know of
[13:03]<Chosen> You can't ?
[13:03]<Chosen> I haven't played the game in a long tiem.
[13:03]<@BC_Programming> not without mods
[13:03]<Chosen> Also, I found a good track to listen to know.
[13:03]<Chosen> Sorry, I don't like indie music.
[13:03]<Chosen> Or whatever it is.
[13:03]<Chosen> http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/103721
[13:03]<Chosen> That's what I'm listening to now.
[13:05]<@BC_Programming> reminds me of some of the MOD/chiptune music I have
[13:05]<Chosen> It's epic, it got no lyrics, it feels energizing to me...
[13:05]<Chosen> Perfect.
[13:05]<Chosen> Okay.
[13:06]<Chosen> What is 'chiptune'?
[13:06]<@jacky> be back later....
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[13:06]<@BC_Programming> music made that either can be emulated by a Console audio chip(s) or that emulates the style
[13:08]<Chosen> Okay.
[13:09]<@BC_Programming> oh I misread what you typed earlier, I thought you said <with> lyrics... sorry
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[13:19]<Chosen> I'm going.
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[13:22]<@BC_Programming> highscores are half working
[13:23]<@BC_Programming> the game properly detects when you have a highscore, plays the epic victory music, asks for your name in a flashing rainbow coloured input thing, and shows you the list of scores
[13:23]<@BC_Programming> but I don't think I'm saving them or something because it's always empty...
[13:26]<+camerongray> hmm - Why am I working on stuff that I need to do for work in my own time and not getting paid for it :P
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> because you are crazy
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> what happened to that game you were working on with Corona?
[13:30]<+camerongray> Still going
[13:30]<+camerongray> But half the dev team are in China on a school trip :P
[13:31]<Tux2> http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/halolz-dot-com-minecraft-clippy.jpg
[13:31]<@BC_Programming> haha
[13:32]<+camerongray> But now I have almost made a function that pulls in XML from an API, parses it to get an array of rows from a small bit of the file then extracts URLs from all the other junk in the row using substr() and strpos()
[13:32]<+camerongray> hahaha
[13:32]<@BC_Programming> cam: can't you use XML modules for PHP?
[13:35]<+camerongray> Yeh - Using that xml2array function
[13:35]<+camerongray> But that returns a string with lots of data divided up by |
[13:36]<@BC_Programming> wow.. I've only had to deal with XML in VB6 and a little in C#
[13:36]<+camerongray> So I've written a thing that removes everything except for the stuff that comes before the first | (The bit I need)
[13:36]<+camerongray> xml2array is awesome
[13:36]<+camerongray> Put in XML, get out array
[13:37]<+camerongray> Then the awesome print_r() which prints out the array all formatted so I can see what indexes I need to get the data out which is quite a few levels deep
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> my easter egg is freaking awesome
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> so awesome I want to say what it is... but that will ruin it... will probably make a vid soon
[13:39]<+camerongray> lol
[13:39]<+camerongray> Does anyone know how to get the max index of an array?
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> in PHP?
[13:39]<+camerongray> yeh
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> I'd have to look it up
[13:39]<+camerongray> I need to loop through it but the size will vary
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> count()
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> as in count($array)
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> why do you have the job doing this stuff and not me, lol
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> :P
[13:41]<+camerongray> lol - Found that :P
[13:44]<+camerongray> Now time to see how it handles tens of thousands of URLs - Only tested with 5
[13:45]<+camerongray> 1285 URLs almost instantly
[13:45]<+camerongray> Now to push it :P
[13:47]<+camerongray> I don't think I'm going to have a problem :P
[13:47]<+camerongray> 101514 URLs took just over 4 seconds to parse
[13:48]<Tux2> lol, my next building project, build that clippy thing.
[13:49]<+camerongray> yeh
[13:51]<+Mulreay> I'm gonna build something big... not sure what yet
[13:52]<@BC_Programming> ok think it's about time I learned if C#'s switch statement isn't shite like C/C++'s version
[13:52]<+Mulreay> Bigger than the shuttle
[13:52]<@BC_Programming> oh right... I installed Delphi Prism so now my help needs to update or whatever
[14:02]<+Mulreay> haha there is a 'space core directive' channel on Twitter
[14:02]<+Mulreay> My first one was not funny... but I had to say something
[14:02]<+Mulreay> @SpaceCorpDir 2053,You may not play with cuddly toys when the bears are hungry.
[14:08]<+camerongray> Now I need to add more to my function for when the server decides to queue the request
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> I just totally smashed some forumer who apparently believes minecraft can be "haunted" by ghosts
[14:15]<+camerongray> lol
[14:16]<+camerongray> I'm googling but I'm wondering if you have a solution - my brain is all messed up...
[14:16]<@BC_Programming> solution to what
[14:17]<+camerongray> I have a bit code that needs to run every 5 seconds until a condition is met
[14:17]<+camerongray> PHP
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[14:17]<@BC_Programming> you could probably make it run with cron
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[14:19]<+camerongray> Not sure
[14:20]<+camerongray> This should do
[14:20]<+camerongray> http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.sleep.php
[14:21]<@BC_Programming> um, you know the server doesn't give anything back to the browser until after the script is finished, right?
[14:23]<+camerongray> Yeh
[14:23]<@BC_Programming> so, how long are you planning on sleeping in the script?
[14:23]<+camerongray> Not long - 10 secs or so
[14:28]<+camerongray> hmm - what would be a good time to check the server
[14:28]<+camerongray> Every second?
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> check the server for what?
[14:39]<+camerongray> Check the API to see if processing is done
[14:39]<+camerongray> It puts requests into a queue
[14:39]<+camerongray> got it anyway
[14:41]<@BC_Programming> oh, no idea
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[14:56]<+camerongray> Lets just hope the browser doesn't timeout
[14:58]<@BC_Programming> are you trying to do this when the page is already loaded?
[15:01]<+camerongray> no
[15:01]<@BC_Programming> oh ok
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[19:29]<CSMR> anyone here know where tux is?
[19:30]<CSMR> 5
[19:30]<CSMR> 4
[19:30]<CSMR> 3
[19:30]<CSMR> 2
[19:30]<CSMR> 1
[19:30]<CSMR> 0
[19:30]<CSMR> Bye!
[19:30]<CSMR> I will be on his MC server
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[23:13]<Tux2> Hi BC_Programming
[23:18]<Tux2> Oh, I added a new plugin too: http://tux2mc.tk/article.php?story=20110629230858769