Session Start: Wed Apr 13 00:00:00 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[00:00] * Set by jacky on Tue Mar 02 11:03:23
[00:04]<@BC_Programming> Duke 3d's polymer is really annoying... my system just can't play it at a nice speed
[00:05]<@BC_Programming> curse you plagman and your possibly unoptimized CUDA code
[00:20]<Tux2> lol
[00:20]<@BC_Programming> it's funny, because my computer can play just cause 2 and crysis and NFS Shift, but DN3d Polymer can turn into a slideshow if I blow up a few enemies
[00:20]<Tux2> lol
[00:21]<@BC_Programming> it plays perfectly if I use polymost instead of polymer, but then I don't get the fancy specular mapping and dynamic lighting and stuff
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[01:01]<lareed> can anyone here offer DNS MX help?
[01:02]<@BC_Programming> well, I probably can't
[01:02]<+Craig> WHat do you need to change your Mail host for?
[01:03]<@BC_Programming> Hi Craig :P
[01:03]<+Craig> Yo
[01:03]<lareed> I moved my website to a new server...somehow my MX hosts got messed up in the process
[01:03]<+Craig> Ah,
[01:03]<lareed> they are attached to google apps
[01:03]<lareed> I can send emails out
[01:03]<+Craig> Oh easy enough then, one momenty
[01:04]<lareed> and recieve from most addresses
[01:04]<lareed> but specific servers are blocked by a 550 error
[01:04]<+Craig> Well, you should have, \/
[01:04]<+Craig> aspmx.l.google.com.
[01:04]<lareed> All MX and SPF info is correct
[01:04]<+Craig> aspmx5.googlemail.com.
[01:04]<+Craig> alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.
[01:04]<+Craig> alt2.aspmx.l.google.com.
[01:05]<+Craig> alt2.aspmx.l.google.com.
[01:05]<+Craig> aspmx3.googlemail.com.
[01:05]<+Craig> aspmx2.googlemail.com.
[01:05]<+Craig> aspmx4.googlemail.com.
[01:05]<lareed> not all of those should be needed though right?
[01:05]<+Craig> Not the duplicates,
[01:05]<lareed> aren't they failovers?
[01:05]<+Craig> you need 7 total
[01:06]<+Craig> Some have real purpose, and some are spam filters, some are just failover
[01:06]<lareed> with aspmx.l.google.com at highest priority correct?
[01:06]<+Craig> Yes 1 or 10
[01:06]<lareed> i have 5 set currently
[01:06]<lareed> 10-50
[01:06]<+Craig> alt1.aspmx.l.google.com. at 20 and alt2.aspmx.l.google.com. at 20
[01:07]<lareed> i only had 5 on my last server and it functioned flawlessly
[01:07]<+Craig> Well, I have had my mailer setup for about 3 years now, and it has 7
[01:07]<lareed> i'll plug them in right now
[01:08]<+Craig> Hey BC, so you cant play that Eduke on full settings?
[01:13]<lareed> so i plugged them in as follows: aspmx.l.google.com with highest priority
[01:13]<lareed> alt1/2 at 20
[01:14]<lareed> aspmx 2/3/4 at 40
[01:14]<lareed> sound correct?
[01:14]<lareed> sorry...missed 5
[01:15]<+Craig> Yeah except 5 its all good.
[01:15]<lareed> great. it shouldn't take too long for propogation
[01:15]<lareed> ill test it and see if that helped!
[01:16]<@BC_Programming> Craig: eduke32 I <can> play it but it's difficult; I posted a video recently, sort of demonstrates what I mean in places
[01:16]<lareed> unfortunately Craig, it looks like that renders the same problem
[01:17]<lareed> im stumped
[01:18]<lareed> the issue is related ONLY to incoming emails. For some reason I can send and recieve from most accounts, but my other server can't touch it
[01:19]<lareed> 38344 is currently not permitted to
[01:19]<lareed> 550-relay through this server.
[01:20]<+Craig> Hmmm,
[01:20]<+Craig> I am not much use beyond this, sadly, I have not run into that particular issues.
[01:20]<+Craig> issue*
[01:20]<lareed> well i appreciate your help
[01:21]<lareed> I am pretty new to the IRC world...any suggestions of other places to try?
[01:21]<@BC_Programming> I have no idea if this will help
[01:21]<@BC_Programming> http://www.petri.co.il/configure_mx_records_for_incoming_smtp_email_traffic.htm
[01:23]<lareed> thanks BC
[01:23]<lareed> i think the issue has to be somewhere either on the godaddy DNS side or the google apps side
[01:23]<Tux2> lol, I have a whole double chest full of cobble stone...
[01:23]<@BC_Programming> oh ok, then you ought to yell at them, lareed :P
[01:24]<lareed> i can't quite figure it out, but since its not a personal email server and its being routed through google it might be a glitch in their system
[01:24]<lareed> and yes...perhaps i should
[01:24]<lareed> haha
[01:25]<lareed> are any of you aware of other channels that could help me hash this out more?
[01:27]<@BC_Programming> hmm, no idea
[01:28]<lareed> no worries. thanks anyways!
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[01:28]<@BC_Programming> fine be that way
[01:28]<@BC_Programming> heh
[01:28]<Tux2> lol
[01:28]<@BC_Programming> WHHHHHAT
[01:28]<@BC_Programming> minecraft launcher
[01:28]<@BC_Programming> "new update available"
[01:28]<@BC_Programming> whaaaat is dis
[01:29] * @BC_Programming backs up his minecraft.jar
[01:29] * Tux2 goes to take a look...
[01:29]<Tux2> Umm... no news about it...
[01:29]<@BC_Programming> wtf
[01:29]<@BC_Programming> it's just 1.4_01
[01:29]<Tux2> what version is it?
[01:29]<Tux2> lol...
[01:29]<@BC_Programming> I already had that?
[01:30]<@BC_Programming> something must have deleted my version file... got my hopes up for 1.5 there, with weather and achievements and all that fun stuff
[01:30]<Tux2> lol, yeah, same here...
[01:32]<@BC_Programming> how many wolves do we all have put together
[01:33]<Tux2> On craig's server?
[01:33]<@BC_Programming> because I'm noticing very few pigs and sheep and all that anywhere
[01:33]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[01:33]<Tux2> I have 2 on there, 3 ob mine...
[01:33]<Tux2> although I think only the wild wolves are doing that...
[01:33]<@BC_Programming> are doing what?
[01:33]<Tux2> decreasing the population..
[01:34]<@BC_Programming> well
[01:34]<@BC_Programming> only 15 friendly mobs can be spawned at a time
[01:35]<@BC_Programming> so if there were, say, 10 wolves altogether, that means only 5 sheep/pigs/cows/chickens
[01:35]<Tux2> well, are tamed wolves counted in?
[01:36]<@BC_Programming> yes
[01:36]<@BC_Programming> that's what I mean... and tamed wolves never despawn, right
[01:36]<Tux2> correct, unless they are killed...
[01:36]<@BC_Programming> well obviously
[01:37]<@BC_Programming> I killed two of mine, they were pissing me off
[01:37]<@BC_Programming> well, if the SPCA asks they lept to their deaths
[01:39]<+Craig> :P
[01:41]<@BC_Programming> and they were constantly whimpering, so they were obviously in pain
[01:41]<Tux2> lol, well that was helpful, I accidentally activated superbreaker and found iron...
[01:41]<@BC_Programming> cool
[01:42]<@BC_Programming> I can't even figure out how- right-clicking when I have a pick doesn't do anything that I can see
[01:42]<Tux2> lol, I don't think it does anything on craig's server...
[01:42]<@BC_Programming> it works for the axe though
[01:42]<+Craig> Sure it does,
[01:43]<+Craig> mcMMO takes over and activates the super (type of action)
[01:43]<+Craig> So with the pick he should be doing super Mining
[01:43]<@BC_Programming> not that I can tell
[01:43]<@BC_Programming> it does the same thing
[01:43]<+Craig> On ores, or standard mining?
[01:43]<@BC_Programming> no messages either, like with the axe
[01:43]<+Craig> hmmm
[01:43]<Tux2> Craig, might want to check your permissions...
[01:43]<@BC_Programming> anything
[01:43]<+Craig> Could be a permission. :p
[01:44]<+Craig> Which world?
[01:44]<@BC_Programming> main world
[01:44]<@BC_Programming> although I haven't tried to use it in any of the other worlds I don't think
[01:46]<Tux2> lol. yeah, use a pickaxe in sand... makes perfect sense...
[01:46]<@BC_Programming> sand?
[01:46]<Tux2> oh, the desert worlds...
[01:46]<@BC_Programming> there are plenty of dungeons there
[01:46]<@BC_Programming> in fact, I find that to be the main attraction
[01:48]<Tux2> lol, sorry... forgot about those...
[01:49]<@BC_Programming> finding good ways to get rid of those creeper spawners is a pain
[01:49]<+Craig> ... let alone safe....
[01:49]<@BC_Programming> although I've lately just decided to simply fill in the hole with cobblestone or something, heh
[01:49]<+Craig> :P:
[01:50]<+Craig> night guys
[01:50]<@BC_Programming> you have to be very well prepared just to fully explore one... I had a full stack of wheat when I found the bread one and by the time I decided I'd had enough I only had 20 or so
[01:50]<@BC_Programming> night
[02:03]<Tux2> I'm thinking of setting up a prank dispenser outside my house that whenever someone walks by it shoots a snowball at them...
[02:03]<@BC_Programming> heh
[02:04]<Tux2> On my server I should say...
[02:08]<Tux2> You can never have enough redstone, right BC_Programming?
[02:08]<@BC_Programming> I have a half chest ful
[02:08]<Tux2> lol...
[02:09]<@BC_Programming> well, half a double chest
[02:09]<Tux2> ah... so now the truth comes out...
[02:10]<@BC_Programming> so technically a full chest
[02:11]<Tux2> lol...
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[02:28]<rayvtirx> mornin people
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[04:25]<+camerongray> hey pottsi
[04:26]<+pottsi> hey camerongray
[04:26]<@BC_Programming> sigh
[04:26]<+camerongray> hey BC_Programming
[04:26]<@BC_Programming> some annoying loudmouthed FreeBSD evangelist has been stalking me
[04:26]<+camerongray> lol
[04:26]<@BC_Programming> he was on CH
[04:26]<@BC_Programming> now he's found my blog
[04:26]<+camerongray> Watch out - He might grep you :P
[04:27]<@BC_Programming> no... he's a damned <censored> is what he is, he keeps going on like FreeBSD is the cure for every single problem in the universe or something
[04:27]<+camerongray> I like the ones that call you a fanboy when you mention a platform
[04:27]<@BC_Programming> heh
[04:27]<@BC_Programming> so true
[04:27]<@BC_Programming> like say
[04:27]<@BC_Programming> sonicrules
[04:27]<+camerongray> I've been called a mac, PC and linux fanboy because I use them all
[04:27]<@BC_Programming> who, the moment I point out a weakness in aptitude
[04:28]<@BC_Programming> "OMG! you are a windoze fanboy!"
[04:28]<+camerongray> lol
[04:28]<@BC_Programming> I got freeBSD setup in a VM
[04:28]<@BC_Programming> it's really exciting
[04:28]<@BC_Programming> it's got a # in the corner
[04:28]<@BC_Programming> that's it so far
[04:28]<+camerongray> I use every platform, Within a 0.5m radius of me is a macbook, windows PC and linux server
[04:29]<@BC_Programming> had to google how to install a desktop environment though, and it won't install because my VM's net connectivity is acting up
[04:29]<+camerongray> I'd use FreeBSD if i were running a server since I'd just access it with SSH
[04:29]<@BC_Programming> oh wait- the net is working from the VM, ping works
[04:29]<+camerongray> And at the rate the stuff I'm developing is going, it won't be long until I need dedicated
[04:30]<@BC_Programming> what "stuff"?
[04:30]<+camerongray> Just PHP programs.etc
[04:30]<+camerongray> Like my CMS
[04:30]<@BC_Programming> I thought of doing my own CMS for everything on my site
[04:31]<+pottsi> dedi's are freaking expensive
[04:31]<+camerongray> Mine works but has a few security holes
[04:31]<+camerongray> Yeh - That's the problem :P
[04:31]<@BC_Programming> yeah I ended up just using my code own for downloads, and wordpress and SMF for the blog and forum respectively
[04:31]<+camerongray> Could get a VPS, load isn't a HUGE issue, more needing things like chron
[04:31]<+pottsi> a vps will handel it all fine
[04:32]<+camerongray> Yeh
[04:32]<+camerongray> Or MediaTemple Grid, that looks good
[04:32]<+pottsi> uses mysql?
[04:32]<+pottsi> your projects*?
[04:32]<+camerongray> Some do
[04:33]<+pottsi> that's your biggest hog
[04:33]<+camerongray> the CMS is flat file but some of them use MySQL for simple storage like counters, accounts .etfc
[04:34]<+camerongray> That reminds me, do any of you know how to generate a file on the fly with PHP?
[04:34]<@BC_Programming> how do you mean?
[04:34]<+pottsi> umm??
[04:34]<+camerongray> As in I have some data in a variable and I want the user do download this data in a plain text file
[04:34]<+camerongray> But I'd rather generate it on the fly rather than creating it on the server
[04:35]<@BC_Programming> ahhh
[04:35]<rayvtirx> i dont understand?
[04:35]<@BC_Programming> I'll check my download script, it does something like that I think
[04:35]<+camerongray> cool
[04:36]<+camerongray> rayvtirx: Basically, I have some text stored in a variable and I want to give the user a text file containing that text
[04:37]<rayvtirx> echo lol
[04:37]<@BC_Programming> you could use header() to change the content type and content-disposition and stuff
[04:38]<+camerongray> Yeh, but would the file have to already exist
[04:38]<@BC_Programming> no
[04:38]<+pottsi> no
[04:38]<+pottsi> >_<
[04:38]<@BC_Programming> you would have a separate PHP file that is somehow passed the data or generates it there
[04:38]<+camerongray> hmm - Will give it a try :P
[04:38]<+camerongray> Thanks
[04:39]<@BC_Programming> then that PHP script will set the header and all that, and everything it echoes will be part of that downloaded file
[04:40]<rayvtirx> wouldnt fopen and a xt file do it?
[04:40]<rayvtirx> http://pastebin.com/EQgNbxvQ
[04:40]<@BC_Programming> yes, but that's for opening a file within PHP, he wants the user to be able to basically download what he has in a variable as a file
[04:40]<@BC_Programming> without creating a new file on the server
[04:41]<rayvtirx> then write the variable to a tst file?
[04:41]<rayvtirx> oh i see
[04:41]<rayvtirx> sorry
[04:50]<@BC_Programming> cam: I made a simple example
[04:50]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/downloads/testdltxt.php
[04:51]<@BC_Programming> will pastebin the source
[04:52]<@BC_Programming> http://pastebin.com/Y4SLKdQj
[04:53]<+camerongray> YIPPEEEEEE!
[04:53]<+camerongray> Thanks
[04:53]<+camerongray> grrrr @ ChanbotIV
[04:54]<@BC_Programming> if you are trying to make a link that downloads the "file" then you would have to make that link point to another PHP file that does the actual file download
[05:12]<+camerongray> Yeh - Working on it now
[05:12]<@BC_Programming> nice
[05:20]<+camerongray> I have it working but... one thing
[05:21]<+camerongray> I have the page opening in a new window and I want it to close automatically
[05:21]<+camerongray> I have a bit javascript but that goes into the output file too
[05:23]<@BC_Programming> no idea
[05:27]<+camerongray> hmm
[05:27]<+camerongray> I know - I'll open it in an iframe
[05:35]<+pottsi> >_< my windows 7 laptop boots gets to the starting windows stage then blue screen and shoots off
[05:35]<+pottsi> shuts*
[05:35]<+pottsi> any ideas
[05:36]<@BC_Programming> no... what is the bluescreen error
[05:41]<+pottsi> don't get time to see it
[05:41]<+pottsi> the built in repair thing won't fix it either
[05:41]<@BC_Programming> F8 I believe while booting, and choose disable automatic restart on system failure
[05:42]<@BC_Programming> it's in that menu somewhere, to disable automatic restart
[05:43]<+pottsi> kk moment
[05:43]<+pottsi> stop 0x0000007b
[05:44]<@BC_Programming> the wording might be different... I haven't had to use the recovery screens from win7 or vista before
[05:44]<@BC_Programming> ok
[05:46]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[05:46]<@BC_Programming> well all I can think of
[05:46]<@BC_Programming> is if the drive is SATA, switching the mode in the BIOS to IDE/Compatible?
[05:47]<+pottsi> it's a laptop
[05:47]<@BC_Programming> Yes.
[05:47]<@BC_Programming> and Laptops have SATA/IDE
[05:47]<@BC_Programming> I know because my laptop is SATA :P
[05:47]<+pottsi> hmm, let me try
[05:48]<@BC_Programming> Also, I had the same error when I tried to install Linux Mint before I installed Windows 7
[05:48]<+pottsi> it's set to IDE
[05:48]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[05:48]<+pottsi> i have an option fo AHCI
[05:48]<@BC_Programming> you mean it was already set to IDE?
[05:48]<+pottsi> yep
[05:48]<@BC_Programming> well, you could try that
[05:48]<@BC_Programming> probably can't hurt
[05:49]<+pottsi> same
[05:50]<@BC_Programming> well I'm out of ideas
[05:51]<+pottsi> :(
[05:51]<+pottsi> i would jusr reinstall but don't have win7 disc
[05:51]<+pottsi> and if i use this key it will get blocked?
[05:52]<@BC_Programming> how do you mean?
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[05:52]<@BC_Programming> the key you have on that machine should work to install it
[05:52]<@BC_Programming> that is on a sticker or whatever
[05:52]<+pottsi> really?
[05:52]<@BC_Programming> even *ahem* copies, I would think
[05:52]<+pottsi> it won't get caught as counterfeit?
[05:53]<@BC_Programming> if you are able to find a *ahem* copy that is just a standard windows disc, it won't know the difference
[05:53]<@BC_Programming> they are all the same
[05:53]<@BC_Programming> as long as you get the right edition
[05:54]<+pottsi> hmm
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[06:50]<+camerongray> Anyone here know the best way to create a login script with PHP and MySQL?
[06:51]<@BC_Programming> no
[06:51]<+camerongray> lol
[06:51]<@BC_Programming> but Code Monkey thinks maybe manager want to right god damned login page himself
[06:51]<@BC_Programming> right=write*
[06:52]<+camerongray> I can get and store all the account info and get logins processed but how do I get it so the user remains logged in as they browse the site
[06:52]<@BC_Programming> Session variables I think
[06:53]<+camerongray> Ahh
[06:53]<@BC_Programming> oh and that "line" I just said was from this song :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s8S7QxpjeY
[06:54]<+camerongray> hahaha
[06:54]<+camerongray> very apprpriate
[06:56]<@BC_Programming> The only reason he comes second for me to Weird Al is because he only has about a third as many songs as Weird Al :P
[06:56]<+camerongray> lol - Weird Al rocks
[06:57]<@BC_Programming> Yeah but for me Coulton is damn close to him now
[06:57]<+camerongray> My main worry is that I can keep the system secure
[06:57]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[06:57]<@BC_Programming> well
[06:57]<@BC_Programming> don't store passwords in the DB plaintext for one thing
[06:57]<@BC_Programming> only some sort of salted hash
[06:58]<+camerongray> Yeh
[06:58]<+camerongray> I was thinking about using a cookie but what can I do to stop someone spoofing a cookie
[06:58]<@BC_Programming> don't use a cookie?
[06:58] * +camerongray haz plan
[06:58]<@BC_Programming> use Session variables! they are server-side
[06:59]<@BC_Programming> well, I think they are
[06:59]<+camerongray> I saw something about them being bad on shared hosting
[06:59]<+camerongray> As in other users can spoof them or something
[07:00]<@BC_Programming> >>Note that if youre on a shared host, its very probably that all users on that shared host have access to that session data directory. In that case you should either change that directory to one that only you have access to or change the session save handler to store the session data in your personal database or somewhere else.
[07:00]<@BC_Programming> found on stackoverflow
[07:00]<+camerongray> ahh - Not sure if I can do that, will look into it
[07:06]<+pottsi> cookie stealing aint simple
[07:06]<+pottsi> brb
[07:11]<+camerongray> I want a cookie
[07:11]<+camerongray> oh
[07:11]<+camerongray> :P
[07:16]<+pottsi> haha
[07:18]<+pottsi> bbl work :(
[07:32]<+camerongray> Have fun :P
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[08:12]<+camerongray> hey jacky
[08:12]<@jacky> Howdy :)
[08:20]<+camerongray> How are you>
[08:20]<+camerongray> ?
[08:22]<@jacky> sorry... in another window
[08:22]<@jacky> hanging in
[08:22]<@jacky> how's camerongray ?
[08:22]<+camerongray> Good thanks
[08:22]<@jacky> spring there yet?
[08:22]<@jacky> or.. is it feeling like it?
[08:22]<@jacky> :)
[08:22]<+camerongray> Yeh - Getting warmer :)
[08:23]<+camerongray> !w Edinburgh, UK
[08:23]<@jacky> hitting 60 at least, here, everyday now.
[08:23]<@jacky> !w crapo
[08:23]<@jacky> !fc crapo
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[09:22]<rayvtirx> hey
[09:22]<sonicrules1234> Ohai
[09:23]<rayvtirx> read your post on egghelp jacky
[09:23]<rayvtirx> hi sonic
[09:23]<@jacky> rayvtirx: Hello
[09:23]<sonicrules1234> rayvtirx: You do know about tab completion, right?
[09:24]<sonicrules1234> For instance, type so and hit tab.
[09:25]<@jacky> rayvtirx: heheeh... just read your reply
[09:25]<@jacky> :)
[09:25]<sonicrules1234> Sometimes I wish I knew street1
[09:25]<@jacky> you didn't??
[09:25]<@jacky> wow
[09:26]<sonicrules1234> No
[09:26]<@jacky> I think abou thim often
[09:26]<@jacky> usually when something funny comes up
[09:26]<@jacky> he had a way....
[09:26]<@jacky> heheehe
[09:26]<sonicrules1234> The obituary link was in the topic the first time I joined
[09:26]<@jacky> ah
[09:26]<@jacky> he disappeared here, and after a while, I had a bad feeling
[09:26]<@jacky> I think, I was talking to camerongray and he found the obit
[09:26]<sonicrules1234> Ah
[09:27]<@jacky> I knew that street was being treated for cancer
[09:27]<sonicrules1234> Ah
[09:27]<@jacky> he sure could make one laugh though
[09:27]<sonicrules1234> I bet
[09:27]<@jacky> he was just ... goofy... in his own way
[09:27]<sonicrules1234> Mhm
[09:27]<@jacky> 
[09:27]<@jacky> rayvtirx: so... how's it going?
[09:28]<rayvtirx> ok thanks
[09:28]<@jacky> good.. good
[09:29]<@jacky> rayvtirx: did the stuff that caesar said there, in the forum, make sense all ok?
[09:29]<@jacky> any more thoughts on that?
[09:30]<rayvtirx> no the stuff caesar said meant nothing to me, as you probably guessed by my $b goof lol
[09:30]<+camerongray> Yeh - If you check BC's logs you will see some of street's thing
[09:30]<+camerongray> things*
[09:30]<rayvtirx> if hed have posted a full script i maybe woulda tried it , but if it would do the same thing?
[09:31]<@jacky> camerongray: I'd forgotten that!
[09:31]<@jacky> rayvtirx: nah... you're doing fine
[09:31]<@jacky> rayvtirx: what he was saying, was just slightly different ways of doing the same thing:
[09:31]<@jacky> make a list of nicks
[09:31]<@jacky> and check it
[09:31]<+camerongray> Here's one: [06:37] <@BC_Programming> could have fooled me
[09:31]<+camerongray> [06:37] <Serpent> huh?
[09:31]<+camerongray> [06:37] <Serpent> hey Mike
[09:31]<+camerongray> [06:37] <@BC_Programming> you said, "I do not speak english"... could have fooled me :P
[09:31]<+camerongray> [06:37] <@street1> What's a mike?
[09:31]<+camerongray> [06:37] <@BC_Programming> heh
[09:31]<+camerongray> [06:37] <@BC_Programming> I am
[09:31]<+camerongray> [06:37] <@BC_Programming> lol
[09:31]<+camerongray> [06:37] <@street1> I am a Robert
[09:32]<@jacky> 
[09:32]<@jacky> Classic
[09:32]<@jacky> hehe
[09:32]<sonicrules1234> :P
[09:35]<+camerongray> And his classic !tell pranks :P
[09:36]<+camerongray> For example, one of his favourites
[09:36]<+camerongray> !seen my butt
[09:36]<+camerongray> oh yeh
[09:36]<+camerongray> !seen my_butt
[09:36]<+camerongray> yeh - he did that alot
[09:37]<@jacky> heheheehehe
[09:37]<@jacky> I'd forgotten that
[09:37]<@jacky> ... wow...
[09:37]<@jacky> heheheeh
[09:38]<@BC_Programming> !seen the_news
[09:38]<sonicrules1234> wb BC_Programming
[09:38]<@BC_Programming> I left?
[09:38]<@BC_Programming> :P
[09:38]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Well, I haven't seen you say anything since I got here :P
[09:39]<@BC_Programming> I last spoke a few hours ago, yeah
[09:39]<rayvtirx> !seen rayvtirx
[09:39]<rayvtirx> ok
[09:39]<@BC_Programming> LOL
[09:39]<@jacky> heheh
[09:39]<@jacky> is this "Why be normal?" day?
[09:39]<@jacky> I'm all for it!
[09:40]<@BC_Programming> my grandfather was killed from scratch damage from a lowly mook
[09:40]<sonicrules1234> What's a mook?
[09:40]<+camerongray> Another one - During a ralph conversation: [11:57] <@street1> Brb making toilet stink!
[09:41]<sonicrules1234> :P
[09:41]<@jacky> hehehe
[09:41]<@BC_Programming> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Mooks
[09:41]<+camerongray> then a bit later: [12:02] * @street1 leaves toilet holding it's nose.
[09:41]<@jacky> opposite end of hte spectrum, for entertainment that is... what Ralphy
[09:42]<rayvtirx> how do i use the built in eggdrop seen module? -
[09:42] * rayvtirx thinks id better looka t the docs
[09:43]<+camerongray> Ralph Unbeatable I think
[09:43]<+camerongray> http://bc-programming.com/irclogs/HTML/glitchpc.log.%5B2009.10.27%5D.html
[09:43]<+camerongray> It's the grep one :P
[09:43]<@jacky> rayvtirx: yep. you compile it, if I recall
[09:44]<@jacky> rayvtirx: but, for what it is worth.... I played with various methods to accomplishing the seen function
[09:44]<@jacky> and decided that I liked Basses seen script
[09:44]<@jacky> to be honest, I dont' remember which one is installed here
[09:44]<@jacky> it is either the gseen module or Basses script
[09:44]<@jacky> I'd have to check
[09:46]<@jacky> 
[09:46]<@jacky> camerongray: heheheeh
[09:46]<@jacky> you gotta admit... Ralphy did provide entertainment
[09:46]<@jacky> heheheeh
[09:47]<rayvtirx> i got it , goto chanset it
[09:47]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[09:47]<@BC_Programming> RedWulf/cmdPro was a delicious diversion for me as well
[09:48]<@jacky> rayvtirx: eh?
[09:48]<@jacky> BC_Programming: I'd forgotten him too
[09:48]<rayvtirx> i had the seen module loaded but wasnt set +seen in eggdrop.conf
[09:48]<@jacky> BC_Programming: on one of your web pages, put up a notice, "We need a**holes" or something.... so it is not boring in here anymoe
[09:48]<@jacky> heheheeh
[09:49]<@jacky> rayvtirx: ah. ok
[09:49]<@BC_Programming> lol: [11:36] <mib_d54fdfa> ok anyways lets turn to computers
[09:49]<@BC_Programming> [11:37] * @street1 turns to his computer
[09:49]<@jacky> rayvtirx: That one.... if I recall.... only reports if the user in question has an account in the bot
[09:49]<@jacky> rayvtirx: experiment with it, to be sure though
[09:49]<@jacky> gotta love the way street's mind worked! heheehe
[09:50]<rayvtirx> yeh your right
[09:50]<@jacky> rayvtirx: for what it is worth, here in this channel, I believe it is Basses Seen Script
[09:51]<@jacky> and in channels where Rog is the bot, it is the gseen module
[09:51]<@jacky> and honestly, I've forgotten why I liked Basses script better. heheheeh
[09:51]<@jacky> note the difference: Rog uses gseen , which is not the same module that you are fiddling with, I think
[09:52]<sonicrules1234> sonicbot has a seen plugin as well
[09:52]<@jacky> (and right here, street could insert a silly comment about "plugin", instantly )
[09:52]<sonicrules1234> Although sonicbot isn't an eggdrop :p
[09:52]<@jacky> sonicrules1234 : that's ok. someday you will upgrade
[09:52]<@jacky> <g>
[09:53]<@jacky> seriously... I forgot... is sonicbot something you did from scratch?
[09:53]<sonicrules1234> Yeah
[09:53]<@jacky> python?
[09:53]<@jacky> perl?
[09:53]<@jacky> can't remember
[09:53]<sonicrules1234> Python
[09:53]<@jacky> cool
[09:54]<sonicrules1234> :D
[09:54]<@BC_Programming> the chat colourizer thingamajig is python
[09:54]<@BC_Programming> yay me
[09:54]<sonicrules1234> Lol
[09:55]<@jacky> :)
[09:58]<rayvtirx> will recompiling the eggdrop overwrite userfiles and conf files?
[09:58]<rayvtirx> soon see
[09:58]<@jacky> thinking...
[09:59]<@jacky> If I recall correctly, it will not
[09:59]<@jacky> because I seem to remember that is how I upgraded from 1.6.19 to 1.6.20
[10:02]<sonicrules1234> [12:12] * RalphUnbeatable (Mibbit@A206B451.AAE952C6.887694F5.IP) Quit (Z:lined (Violating the Mibbit Code of Conduct.))
[10:02]<sonicrules1234> Lol
[10:02]<sonicrules1234> That guy was really stupid
[10:03]<@jacky> he embodied stupid
[10:03]<@BC_Programming> indeed he was
[10:03]<@jacky> he raised stupid to a whole new level
[10:03]<@BC_Programming> his stupidity was positively... grepping
[10:03]<@jacky> by the way... has anybody ever seen the "mibbit code of conduct"?
[10:03]<@jacky> can you find it?
[10:04]<@jacky> I remember seeing that, back then... and back then, I couldnt' find it
[10:04]<@jacky> heheeh
[10:04]<@jacky> maybe they made it up, just for Ralphy
[10:05]<@BC_Programming> only thing I can find is this
[10:05]<@BC_Programming> http://wiki.mibbit.com/index.php/Mod_rules
[10:05]<sonicrules1234> They were probably talking about the their TOS or something
[10:06]<@jacky> BC_Programming: yep... which applies to a channel or three
[10:06]<@jacky> sonicrules1234: ever found it?
[10:06]<@jacky> :)
[10:06] * sonicrules1234 looks
[10:06]<sonicrules1234> Hm
[10:06]<sonicrules1234> Its not in the motd
[10:06]<@BC_Programming> grep -i "mibbit code of conduct" internet
[10:06]<@BC_Programming> it didn't work
[10:06]<@jacky> Augg!! grepping!!!
[10:07]<@BC_Programming> seems you can't grep the internet
[10:07]<@BC_Programming> a lot of people try their best to come to greps with the internet though
[10:08]<sonicrules1234> No luck finding the mibbit code of conduct
[10:08]<@BC_Programming> here's the TOS
[10:08]<@BC_Programming> http://wiki.mibbit.com/index.php/Terms_of_Service
[10:09]<@BC_Programming> oh I lied
[10:09]<@BC_Programming> it's this one
[10:09]<@BC_Programming> http://mibbit.com/tos.html
[10:10]<@jacky> well... they have General Conduct in there
[10:10]<@jacky> maybe that's it...
[10:10]<@jacky> ah well... I remember that I found it amusing
[10:10]<@BC_Programming> and then there was that time I had a script just automatically have me kick him when he joined as "Ralph" or "RalphUnbeatable"
[10:11]<@BC_Programming> it still took him 10 or so tries to actually try a different nick
[10:11]<@jacky> I remember that!
[10:17]<rayvtirx> yay gseen works
[10:17]<@jacky> there you go!
[10:17]<@jacky> cool
[10:18]<@jacky> !say *
[10:18]<@jacky> !say *log*
[10:18]<@jacky> !say online_logs
[10:20]<rayvtirx> hmm that a handy archive of logs
[10:23]<@jacky> I think that is where camerongray was getting the quotes from
[10:23]<@jacky> that's online log thing is a collaborative effort
[10:24]<@jacky> I'd have to refresh myself on the steps involved
[10:24]<@jacky> but I have the bot do things with logging, then ftp the log files over to BC's site
[10:24]<@jacky> wait.. back up
[10:24]<rayvtirx> sok gonna use php
[10:25]<@jacky> the bot runs a custom script that BC made, to do some things to the log first.. He knows those details
[10:25]<@jacky> and why
[10:25]<@BC_Programming> it colourizes them fancy
[10:25]<@jacky> ok
[10:25]<@jacky> there you go
[10:25]<@jacky> :)
[10:25]<@BC_Programming> that's the technical description of course
[10:25]<@jacky> and yes, it is VERY nice to have them archived
[10:25]<@jacky> heh
[10:31]<rayvtirx> what does the "contents" file in the log directory do?
[10:31]<rayvtirx> can i delete it?
[10:32]<@jacky> it's in the log dir?
[10:32]<@jacky> brb...
[10:32]<@BC_Programming> log dir?
[10:33]<@jacky> rayvtirx: oh yeah... I think I've seen it so many times, that I just tune it out
[10:33]<@jacky> heheeh
[10:33]<rayvtirx> yeh the logs folder
[10:33]<rayvtirx> hehheh
[10:33]<@jacky> you should be able to delete it... me?, I just leave it there an ignore it
[10:33]<@jacky> BC_Programming: in the dir structure of an eggdrop... a sub dir, for logs
[10:34]<@BC_Programming> oh, ok, thought he meant the linked FTP folder :P
[10:34]<@jacky> oh!
[10:34]<@jacky> I assumed otherwise
[10:34]<@jacky> never considered that
[10:34]<@BC_Programming> there is no contents file there though that I can see.... so you probably assumed correctly
[10:35]<@jacky> (buffing my nails) ... yeah, I'm used to it though
[10:35]<@jacky> <g>
[10:35]<@BC_Programming> heh
[10:36]<@jacky> I have sound again... :)
[10:36]<@jacky> anybody here like this kind of stuff? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsHXd4rQnW0
[10:38]<@BC_Programming> holy crap... I have a MIDI of that, or something similar
[10:38]<@jacky> that's some git-tar playin'!
[10:38]<@jacky> heheeh
[10:38]<@jacky> and remember, I usually like the older stuff... not stuff this new
[10:38]<@BC_Programming> FREE BIRD
[10:39]<@jacky> sure... but it was overplayed on the radio
[10:39]<@jacky> I liked all the other songs, on "One More From the Road" album
[10:39]<@jacky> :)
[10:41]<@BC_Programming> everything is better with guitars
[10:41]<@BC_Programming> I should change the star trek theme I have so everything is an overdriven electric guitar
[10:41]<@jacky> heh
[10:42]<@jacky> now go find some Clapton or Santana or Hendrix
[10:45]<@BC_Programming> OH OH! I just remembered an awesome joke I thought of a few days ago
[10:45]<@BC_Programming> what does the catholic triangle tell the priest when he goes in for confession?
[10:46]<@jacky> tell us
[10:46]<@BC_Programming> "forgive me father, for I have sine'd"
[10:46]<@BC_Programming> HAHA
[10:46] * @jacky bashes BC with the Grep stick
[10:48]<rayvtirx> ok dunnit but one question
[10:49]<rayvtirx> is there a kind of a wildcard in php so for example say i wanted to only include the logs beginning airfixdogfighter here -> http://irc.mattwillett.co.uk/?p=dflogs
[10:51] * @jacky says nothing, because he doesn't know php.....
[10:52]<rayvtirx> sok sorry i ask questions i havnt googled for alot :s glob() or something is what i want
[10:52]<@BC_Programming> depends how you are iterating through the files...
[10:56]<rayvtirx> http://pastebin.com/TU2CU0iD
[10:56]<rayvtirx> is what ive got so far
[10:59]<@BC_Programming> you could probably use preg_match(), or just use substr and test specific parts.
[11:00]<rayvtirx> and scandir so it in order lol
[11:05]<rayvtirx> god im plonker
[11:12]<rayvtirx> fnmatch
[11:14]<rayvtirx> think thatll do
[11:15]<rayvtirx> have a biscuit
[11:19]<@jacky> see you all later on
[11:20]<@jacky> :)
[11:20]<@jacky> 
[11:20]<rayvtirx> bye
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[11:20]<@BC_Programming> he didn't eat his biscuit
[11:22]<rayvtirx> :)
[11:23]<rayvtirx> looking for a way to order those logs by date now
[11:24]<rayvtirx> what i dont get???
[11:24]<rayvtirx> is why theyre not allready ordered by last modified date?
[11:25]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/index.php?page=irc
[11:25]<@BC_Programming> mine is sorted... but I don't understand any of the code I wrote now
[11:25]<@BC_Programming> the files will be sorted arbitrarily based on their order in the file system by default... or something
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[13:47]<+camerongray> hmm - What to do
[13:48]<DarkTemplar> sleep?
[13:50]<+camerongray> hmm, could do
[13:50]<+camerongray> But there is funny home videos on TV
[13:53]<DarkTemplar> watch it?
[13:53]<+camerongray> lol - oddly I need to do something else when watching TV :P
[13:53]<DarkTemplar> you see what's going on over there, don't you? ;p
[13:53] * +camerongray plays minecraft
[13:54]<DarkTemplar> umm... I heard abt it, but have no idea what th is that
[13:55]<+camerongray> Oh get it - Basically it's a game where the whole world is made of blocks
[13:55]<+camerongray> You mine things pick them up move them and build stuff
[13:55]<+camerongray> Look it up on Youtube
[13:56]<+camerongray> Craig has a server that we all play on
[13:56] * DarkTemplar is now known as Serpent
[13:57]<+camerongray> We have a big village and other projects
[14:16]<+camerongray> You should really buy it
[14:16]<+camerongray> Me, Tux, Craig, Mulreay, BC and sonic all play on the server
[14:59]<+camerongray> hmm - I might try making a binary adder in MC
[15:25]<+camerongray> Then again, I just saw how large a XOR gate is and each adder that I designed has 3 of them and there are 8 adders
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[15:33]<Tux2> hey Craig, I see you have my minecraft server listed on your website, but all it says is "reserved"?
[15:34]<Tux2> Oh and hi BC_Programming and camerongray
[15:35]<+camerongray> hey Tux2
[15:35]<+camerongray> Just realising how big this project is going to be
[15:35]<Tux2> lol, what project?
[15:35]<+camerongray> Ahh
[15:35]<+camerongray> Planning on building an 8bit binary adder in MC
[15:36]<Tux2> oh, oh boy....
[15:36]<+camerongray> I made it in a physical circuit, in MC it will be HUGE
[15:36]<Tux2> lol, I've seen a 16 bit one...
[15:37]<Tux2> so I can imagine...
[15:37]<+camerongray> A 16 bit COMPUTER :P
[15:37]<+camerongray> That guy must be mad :P
[15:37]<Tux2> are you going to do it in SMP or singleplayer?
[15:37]<+camerongray> Single, need to spawn all the RS, will take so much
[15:37]<Tux2> ah... lol, of course...
[15:44]<+camerongray> Damn you windows update
[15:44]<+camerongray> Stuck on update 11 out of 26
[15:57]<+Craig> Hey Guys
[15:58]<Serpent> :)
[15:58]<+Craig> And Tux2 - That reservation is for a rendered map if you are interested.
[15:58]<+Craig> WOW! Serpent! Havent seen you in forever!!!
[15:58]<Tux2> ah, okay
[15:58]<Serpent> yeah, pretty same here ;)
[15:59]<+Craig> What have you been up to serpent?
[16:00]<+Craig> Oh Cam, I can spawn you a crapton of rs
[16:01]<Serpent> it's still about my job mostly, and my dauthter.... but shame on me, it's my wife who deals with the girl, I can't get rid of my (often made up) work duties
[16:01]<+Craig> Ahhh
[16:02]<+Craig> Hey Tux2 still interested in a bot for the minecraft server?
[16:02]<Tux2> I think I actually found one...
[16:02]<Tux2> In a podcast at the moment...
[16:03]<+Craig> ok
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[16:07]<camerongray_netbook> Hey Craig
[16:08]<+Craig> hehehe, changed accounts
[16:08]<camerongray_netbook> Yeh - Was using macbook but had to move :P
[16:08]<camerongray_netbook> I really should get the battery fixed :P
[16:08]<+Craig> HAHAHAHAAHAH
[16:09]<+Craig> And they say their problem free
[16:09]<camerongray_netbook> Yeh
[16:09]<camerongray_netbook> The A1181 has so many flaws
[16:09]<camerongray_netbook> Case cracks on palmrest and screen bezel
[16:09]<camerongray_netbook> Charging circuits fail
[16:09]<camerongray_netbook> Optical drives die
[16:10]<camerongray_netbook> Mine has the charging and optical drive faults
[16:10]<camerongray_netbook> The case was cracked but I replaced it
[16:11]<+Craig> Ouch
[16:11]<+Craig> Expensive
[16:11]<camerongray_netbook> ?300 on ebay :P
[16:11]<+Craig> Really Expensive!
[16:11]<+Craig> All my repairs total less than 300 pounds. (To all my comps)
[16:12]<camerongray_netbook> lol
[16:12]<camerongray_netbook> No, the whole laptop was ?300
[16:12]<+Craig> Oh well, Hack-a-mac! Thats the way to go!
[16:12]<+Craig> Ohhhh :P
[16:12]<+Craig> thats not too bad,
[16:12]<camerongray_netbook> A new logicboard would be ?600 :P
[16:12]<+Craig> about the same for a standard Windows Machine
[16:12]<+Craig> Logicboard?
[16:13]<camerongray_netbook> What apple call the motherboard
[16:13]<+Craig> Ohh
[16:13]<+Craig> Interesting
[16:13]<camerongray_netbook> If you refer to it as a motherboard, they kill you
[16:13]<+Craig> I should go bug steve with that one, :P
[16:14]<camerongray_netbook> hahaha
[16:14]<camerongray_netbook> Wooo - Simplified my adder - 2 XORs now
[16:15]<camerongray_netbook> Still going to be HUGE
[16:19]<camerongray_netbook> hmm, should I build it on the server
[16:19]<+Craig> Broville is epic! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12527604/projects/mcmapDZ/renders/broville/index.html
[16:20]<camerongray_netbook> nice
[16:21]<camerongray_netbook> Would need a lot of space to build it, If I built it in SP, would you be able to add it to the server with a portal?
[16:21]<camerongray_netbook> If I sent you the map
[16:22]<+Craig> Yeah
[16:22]<+Craig> whats and XOR?
[16:23]<camerongray_netbook> A logic gate
[16:23]<camerongray_netbook> Output goes high when either input A OR B is high
[16:23]<+Craig> ok
[16:23]<camerongray_netbook> If both are low or high, it outputs low
[16:27]<camerongray_netbook> So if I build it and send you the map, you will add it to the server?
[16:27]<+Craig> Well, how do you want it added? (Computer World) or new area on the main world?
[16:28]<camerongray_netbook> Probably its own world
[16:28]<+Craig> Yeah thats the simplest, I can do that live. :P
[16:28]<camerongray_netbook> With mobs off :P
[16:28]<+Craig> Setup a location where you want the actual portal to be with Obsidian, and I will make sure to link it all in\
[16:29]<camerongray_netbook> cool
[16:29]<camerongray_netbook> And could it be mob free and always day?
[16:29] * camerongray_netbook has visions of creeper related mess
[16:29]<+Craig> MOB free yes, always day, maybe soon, I am lookin into a time mod for worlds
[16:29]<+Craig> no kidding
[16:29]<camerongray_netbook> cool
[16:30]<camerongray_netbook> Will be a while though - Need to build it first :P
[16:30]<+Craig> :P
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[16:37]<+Craig> Check this out~! http://liquify.eu/flash/MCExplorer
[16:48]<+Craig> That is the best renderer ever!
[16:50]<+Craig> And its really using my video card, and processor, rather than the standard minecraft render method! :)
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[22:49]<+Craig> Anyone good with Python?
[23:24]<@BC_Programming> somewhat why
[23:33]<+Craig> heh, sorry
[23:33]<+Craig> Solved it the easy way, found a windows binary
[23:33]<+Craig> :P
[23:33]<@BC_Programming> ok
[23:33]<+Craig> Its for a Dungeon maker
[23:33]<+Craig> for Minecraft, hoping to add some to the levels we have,. :P
[23:33]<@BC_Programming> cool
[23:34]<+Craig> Tesdting on a world backup, then if its good, load it into the server
[23:35]<+Craig> OH EPIC! I think it worked! ... may have taken out my house... :S
[23:36]<+Craig> ... dang it, took out my house... :P
[23:36]<+Craig> Hmmm Minor loss though, as it was only the stairs leading to nowhere...
[23:36]<+Craig> Think I should implement it?
[23:37]<+Craig> its a 5x5x5 room dungeon?
[23:37]<+Craig> BC?
[23:37]<@BC_Programming> why not
[23:37]<+Craig> ok implementing
[23:37]<+Craig> Wanna join me?
[23:38]<@BC_Programming> busy atm
[23:38]<+Craig> ok
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